Friday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 18, 2009 9:28 AM CST
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PrintQuiet day in Rangerland today.
Richard Durrett has blog entries up about Clint Hurdle working with the Ranger hitters and Michael Young's thoughts on the Rich Harden acquisition.
Evan Grant says that Chuck Greenberg is saying all the right things at this point.
T.R. Sullivan is a fan of the Newberg Report.
And David Brown offers six Rangers prospects he thinks are the most likely to surprise next year and put themselves on the prospect map.
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Hurdle
I was out last night and on the tv there was a piece on the Rangers, focusing on Hurdle. I guess it was on FSN; did anyone see this?
I didn't see it, but I like how Hurdle is going about his business as it is described in this blog piece.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
is the next deadline for the ownership
Jan 14 or 15th which would be 30 days out. I remember reading the 30 day requirement. Does somebody have the article etc of the different timelines the ownership is working off of?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I believe the 30 days thing is to agree to a price
From what I heard the vote on approving Greenberg won’t go before the owners until spring training which means we won’t officially have a new owner till right before the season starts
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
well, that sucks
it’s not unexpected, but I was hoping something by the beginning of Feb, and we could possibly add a late signing or something. False hope.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Would there be any reason
on the surface that Greenberg would not be approved? Seems like he has a pretty squeaky clean rep and is well liked so far.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
I think the approval is more of a formality than anything
but it won’t happen until the owners get together which has been said isn’t until spring training
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hicks being a part owner may piss people off.
by FuturePants on Dec 18, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Minority owner though,
all he is involved in is a small investment most likely.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Hes the 2nd largest investor
But his money is the only thing hes bringing to the table. He has no decision making ability
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Reportedly no decision-making ability.
Fortunately, the Rangers always tell the truth, so believe it!
Well that's just it.
We don’t know – and may never know – what the true structure of the ownership group is. Given that they have not even hammered out their deal yet, they may not even know. I’m getting tired head.
by FuturePants on Dec 18, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Hopefully, if Hicks trys to weasle his way into any decisions,
Greenberg will give Nolan the authority to give Hicks the “Ventura treatment” and kick his arse out of the office…
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 18, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
ooops..."tries"...
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 18, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
So basically Hicks is agreeing to a price
but the “check” will be for that amount minus the value of his controlling interest?
Wouldn’t the banks be pissed that he didn’t sell it to the highest bidder especially considering that the actual cash flow would be MUCH bigger
by texasraider on Dec 18, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
shouldn't have said "controlling interest"
minority interest
by texasraider on Dec 18, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Technically, Hicks isn't selling the team
Hicks Sports Group is.
He, personally, is putting in some money for the new group to buy the Rangers from HSG.
Unless Hicks personally guaranteed any of the loans that HSG has, he personally doesn’t have any exposure to the banks for HSG’s debts.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 18, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Given that he is solvent...
…I seriously doubt that Hicks has any liability for the HSG loan default biz.
by FuturePants on Dec 18, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Hicks as an investor...
The way I understand it, the money is going to come out of Hicks’ personal pocket. So he would basically be paying his company (HSG) for the Rangers. The $$$ should work out.
No
The Greenberg group will write HSG a check for the selling price. Hicks is writing Greenberg a check from his personal checking account.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Don't worry guys
Everything is going to be fine on Chuck and Tom’s end and I’m 100% sure that MLB will green light this thing faster than normal.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
You can take it to the bank.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Heard that.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 19, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
all the articles I read about him sound like there were several
unreported problems with bradley while he was here.
the preceding post was a great success.
the cubs would have to
practically send him here for free and pay for shipping for us to take him back, and even then I think we’d pause before agreeing.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah there's a chance
that you’ll be seeing him in the Ballpark this year.
Wearing a Mariners jersey.
It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard.
- Nolan Ryan
nice article by David Brown
Jose Monegro was a guy flying under my radar.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Me too
Really hadnt heard the name. I know this has been said repeatedly but this system just has crazy crazy depth especially pitching. Here’s hoping we get an exciting young hitting prospect to fall to us at one of our 1st rnd picks this yr.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Alvarez looks like a baby.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 18, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
he is
that pic would have been taken when he was 16.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Crazy.
Are we getting to the level of soccer where we’re scouting 14 and 15 y/o Latin kids? At least we have a better development system…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 18, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
But signing?
And getting them into the academies?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 18, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Barcelona signed Leo Messi when he was 12, IIRC. And I know Steven Gerrard was 9 or 10 when he joined Liverpool’s academy.
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
There's a ManU scout
standing next to my left testicle right now just waiting for me to pick a lucky lady.
Haven't we been at that level?
These 16 year old players signing contracts aren’t just discovered then. Teams find out about them in advance and do what they need to do to make sure that the player develops and signs with them.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Cubs may send Bradley to Mariners for Silva...
The Mariners have had perhaps the busiest offseason in baseball so far, but they’re not about to slow down. Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that they’re re-engaged in trade talks with the Cubs about outfielder Milton Bradley. Three executives say the Cubs could send Bradley to Seattle in exchange for Carlos Silva, who will earn slightly more than Bradley over the course of the next two seasons (Bradley’s under contract for $21MM, Silva for $24MM).
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Can this be used to our advantage?
Hey MB, Ichiro said he thinks you are doggin it and are a disgrace to baseball players everywhere. And black people. And he says he’d rather chew on his shoe than eat soul food.
He’s over there, here’s a nice heavy, blunt object.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 18, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
I really like
Seattle’s offseason so far. I think they have made some definite improvements. The West will be even tougher than I thought thanks to Seattle making some good moves.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
the problem with Seattle
is that they now have a GM at least as cunning and intelligent as JD, plus they have money.
If we finally get an ownership group in place willing to spend, a Mariners/Rangers rivalry could really take hold. Until then, we are just the poor kids on the block on Christmas morning.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
True
The West is starting to look pretty scary. All i want is for the Rangers to win the West and the Angels to finish last. Is that too much to ask?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Been there, done that.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 18, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
That would be a huge move for Seattle and really suck for us
Not only would they get to unload the dead carcass of Carlos Silva and his contract, they would also get a much needed offensive bat for the middle of their lineup. The Cubs would have to be very desperate to be willing to take that deal, and for the Rangers’ sake I hope they don’t.
I'd be inclined to step up talks with the Cubs
to at the very least keep him away from the Mariners.
Didn't Griffey resign with the Ms?
And isn’t this season gonna be his swan song so to speak?
Where would Bradley fit in?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yeah, there's that
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Griffey's no more than a clubhouse guy who'll fill in when Bradley's hurt.
Bradley would be the DH.
They can help each other stay hurt and what not ..
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 18, 2009 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
SI_JonHeyman #mariners may be the best hope for #cubs to trade milton now. on si.com: http://tinyurl.com/ydk8w44
The Cubs shot themselves in the foot
When Pineilla made the one way or another Bradley is gone comment. Everyone knows they won’t release him so they are stuck getting a piece of garbage like Carlos Silva in return. Not a good job by the people in charge on the North Side.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 AM CST reply actions
I thought it was CD at first
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Oh, so did I
lol
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
I am disappointed
I think Langerhans will be a very good value for them. It’s a shame people don’t give him any credit for what he does.
eh
fangraphs had an article stating that Jeff Fiorentino is just as good a bet as Langerhans, and I’d say Fiorentino has the stronger bat as well. He’s a lefty, so he’s not a glaring area of need, but I’d love to see the team sign Fiorentino and Shelley Duncan to minor league deals…I think both of those guys can help a winning team in the right role.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
What's the rumor on him?
In general I mean. I don’t follow the hot stove all that closely but I haven’t even heard his name.
Cards supposedly offered Holliday
8 years / $ 128 million ($ 16 million/per).
That’s at least two years too much.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 18, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I haven't heard a reliable report
that it is over 5 yrs…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Mariners get Milton
According to the Seattle Times’ Larry Stone, the Cubs have agreed to trade Milton Bradley to the Mariners for right-hander Carlos Silva.
It’ll be interesting to see what kind of money is being exchanged. Silva, who is owed $24 million over the next two years, posted an 8.60 ERA and 1.70 WHIP in 30 innings this past season and a 6.46 ERA in 153 1/3 innings the year before. Bradley, owed $21 million, batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago but is only one year removed from a career-best .321/.436/.563 batting line. For now, it appears the Mariners have pulled off another excellent deal.
It's been tweeted, it has to be FACT!
Source: Mariners will trade Carlos Silva to Cubs for Milton Bradley, may be announced later today
11 minutes ago from web
StoneLarry
Larry Stone
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
So the M's have added Milton, Figgins and Lee
to a team that won 85 games last year.
Giving up Silva for Bradley means they probably still have money available to get more pieces.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 18, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
but they've lost
the innings that Washburn and Bedard gave them, and some might argue swapping Figgins for Beltre is nearly a draw.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
well it should be an advantage over what he gave them last year
though for 2010 i’d probably rather have beltre than figgins.
the preceding post was a great success.
I dunno.
Beltre’s hitting just died in that park. Plus Figgins gives them valuable versatility with figuring out what to do with some of their better prospects.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 18, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Lee should soak up a lot IPs next
year and I read where the M’s haven’t dismissed the possibility of bringing back Beltre and they’re also negotiating with Damon.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 18, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
The Mariners have had
a terrific offseason so far. The AL West is scary next year. The Rangers are coming off a 87 win in which they should improve based on natural progression by the young players and recoveries from Davis, Hamilton, and Kinsler to an extent.
The Angels have lost Lackey, Vlad and Figgins so far. Added Matsui which is decent. However, they are the Angels and I have learned not to discount them ever.
The Mariners gave up seemingly below market for Lee, perhaps have traded for Bradley, and are not done.
The A’s are pretty well run and you have to imagine their young players improving to the pt to where Oakland is probably a pretty solid .500 team.
I really hope the Rangers find a way to get Vlad or Glaus (less likely) in the fold. Just sucks the money situation is in such a state we cant be big players. Hopefully, next yr we will have deep pockets to go after that final piece after a successful 2010.
By the way, heard you talked to Chris Davis a bit. Pretty cool dude?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure I'd say
the AL West is scary next year. The AL East is scary. The M’s are scary.
The Angels, Rangers and A’s? Meh.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Let me qualify then
It is much scarier to the Rangers now than it was a week ago.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know about scary.
But it should be much tighter than the past few years.
by FuturePants on Dec 18, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Don't know his health situation
but Troy Glaus makes so much more sense than Lowell.
Glaus is younger, pounds LH pitching and has a lot of experience as a clean-up hitter.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 18, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Glaus wants a full time gig though,
so that wont happen here in Arlington.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
still not sure where that will happen
I haven’t exactly heard about a lot of teams hot on his trail. Baltimore seemed like a fit but they now have Wiggy and Atkins. The Giants, maybe, but he should really go to an AL team.
I have a feeling we’ve been in touch…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
See
but the reports are that he wants a starting 3B job. I dont think he will get that but he thinks he will
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 18, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, those 29 TOTAL ABs in 2009
Give him a ton of leverage…not!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
And, per espn
Troy Glaus underwent a physical last week and is making the records open to all 30 teams, according to ESPN.
Glaus is hoping to land a job as some team’s third- or first-baseman, and the updated health records should help teams make more informed decisions about Glaus. He missed all but 14 games in 2009 thanks to shoulder surgery and is best suited to an American League team where he has the DH position available.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
this was an excellent offseason to have money to spend
the Mariners have twice now found themselves in perfect circumstances to pull of a heist.
Surely there is money changing hands here. Milton was bad, but he wasn’t worth swapping for Silva unless he actually sexually abused clubhouse attendents, started an inter-clubhouse race war, or failed to vote for Colt McCoy on his Heisman ballot.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
2 outta 3 ain't bad.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 18, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
You could very easily make a case for the Mariners being the best team in the division as of right now.
Fucking Bavasi and his incompetence.
Thats also another DH spot settled.
Only so many left for Vlad/Dye/Thome.
the preceding post was a great success.
Huh?
A source has informed FOXSports.com that the Mariners are trying to trade right-hander Brandon Morrow for a hitter.
The M’s have been baseball’s most active organization this offseason but are still in need of a reliable first baseman. They lost out on Nick Johnson, who signed with the Yankees, and don’t seem comfortable with the idea of bringing back Russell Branyan. Morrow, 25, should draw a good deal of interest. He went just 2-4 with a 4.39 ERA over 26 appearances (10 starts) in 2009 but has a great deal of potential.
Source: FOXSports.com
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
At 2nd?
Interesting idea…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
?
No, at 1B. Presumably they’d stick with Lopez at second for now until they can find some team that overvalues him.
Bah, had him wrong in my head
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
Why don't they want Branyan?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
guess they assume it was a fluke year?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Isn't he already in his 30's?
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
by lost in space on Dec 18, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
TR Sullivan
Has he EVER given a scintilla of a prop to you, Adam?
It’s like he decided it was either/or between you and Jamey, despite the fact that you and the Berg are friends and very supportive of each other’s work and respective niches.
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?
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