LSB Community Prospect Project: Post-Season #16
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 19, 2009 6:53 AM CST
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PrintAfter garnering 33% of 118 votes, Engel Beltre has won the right to be called the LSB Community #15 prospect!
The List So Far:
#1. RHP Neftali Feliz
#2. LHP Martin Perez
#3. 1B Justin Smoak#4. RHP Tanner Scheppers
#5. RHP Michael Main
#6. LHP Robbie Ross
#7. RHP Wilmer Font
#8. RHP Danny Gutierrez
#9. RF/DH/1B Mitch Moreland
#10. LHP Kasey Kiker
#11. SS Jurick Profar
#12. C Max Ramirez
#13. RHP Blake Beavan
#14. RHP Pedro Strop
#15. CF Engel Beltre
Time to move on to the vote for #16.
The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.
And, as always, please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.
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The Guillermo for me
I appreciate Weiland, but I don’t see how you can rank him above a guy who strikes guys out, doesn’t walk a lot, and keeps the ball in the park in AAA.
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I haven't paid much attention the last couple days
and I was surprised to see Moscoso’s name wasn’t up there already.
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Getting into the "meh" territory.
Or at least the “eh” territory.
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wrong
I know what you mean, but there are still a lot of guys left with very intriguing potential. Still several guys left that could ctack top tens in some other teams’ systems.
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Like Hurley
The uncertainty has kept me away, but I think now is the time to consider Hurley. He has a cieling of LAIE or #3 possibly #2 if you squint real hard. In theory, he could be with team this year. I could definately see Guillermo as a similar pitcher.
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At this point, you can't count on Hurley's fastball to be even a tick above average.
He’s about 1 year removed from surgery on his rotator cuff and labrum, so he should be getting close to where he was before he got hurt. His slider was probably just a tick above average, and his fastball was probably a 55. His change up was a 40 but probably has at least average potential.
If he gets back to a 55 fastball, a 50+ slider, and a 40 change up, he’s no #3.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 22, 2009 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Love me some Wieland...
think he could have a breakout year.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Miguel De Los Santos probably should be on the list soon.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Because he'sone of the top 45 prospects.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Poveda here
he’s better than people give him credit for. I don’t mind Moscoso, but I don’t see how you can put Wieland above Poveda at this point.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I've only been voting for Moscoso for like five times now.
How can people dismiss results in AAA? Yes he’s older but for crying out loud in a poll of who’s best where people have been lauding ceiling and tools, results matter too, especially at the higher levels and the fact is G improved as the season went on after his promotion.
AA Frisco – 42.1 IP, 41 H, 23 R, 21 ER, 14 BB, 36 K, 4.46 ERA
1.299 WHIP, 8.7 H/9, .2 HR/9, 3.0 BB/9, 7/7 K/9 2.57 K/BB
AAA OKC – 70 IP, 56 H, 20 R, 18 ER, 15 BB. 60 K, 2.31 ERA
1.014 WHIP, 7.2 H/9, .3 HR/9, 1.9 BB/9, 7.7 K/9, 4.00 K/BB
This is a guy with legit swing and miss stuff who’s had health issues but finally put together a full season and pitched damn well when it was his turn. What more can fans ask for a guy at AAA? He’s going to be one of the first ones called up in case of injuries to the starters.
Poveda is younger but didn’t miss bats in AA. Wieland is almost too young and who knows how good he is because he played behind a god awful defense. I want to see him pitch in a neutral environment where his pitch-ability can be more accurately measured. I love Velasquez but let’s see him hit outside of rookie ball. Telis is the best position player left but I’m not sure I put him ahead of some of these pitchers.
I agree with your points
but Moscoso still has an injury history and is a few years older than Poveda. For me it is between those two. Moscoso, though does have the best numbers of anybody remaining.
I like Poveda because he has shown a history up til last year to miss bats, and even with his lower K rate, he still performed quite well.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
no not really
he’s pitched over 100 innings the last 3 years including about 150 this year. He’s healthy and should be rated highly like any mid-rotation prospect should be who is competing for a spot in the ML rotation. Or did you miss the JD memo on that?
are you talking about Moscoso
because he has only pitched over 100 innings 1 time in his career — last year, and not nearly as high as 150 either
06 – 36 IP
07 – 90.2 IP
08 – 86.2 IP
09 – 126.1 IP
Are we talking about his work between starts as well or what, because I base my information on stats gathered from reputable places (like this link from fangraphs), but I suppose if you can supply the memo JD sent you on Moscoso’s innings because yes I apparently missed it. I can link info on Moscoso’s injury history if you need that, unless, of course you already have a memo from JD on that describing that Moscoso wasn’t really injured.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
winter leagues
each of the last 3 years (including this one) and he was on pace to pitch about a full load this year as a starter before he was called up, ~28 starts 165-170 innings. Winter Leagues is serious business in VZ and DR, and I peg it at least at a AAA level of talent and experience(if not a tic above) so it cannot be discounted for any pitcher (the AFL, or Hawaii-like vacation locales, different story).
Moscoso has said that he felt 100% this year, as good as his pre-surgery days, when he touched 97; he is no more an injury risk than anyone else competing for a rotation spot in the spring – an certainly less than many in fact – and he is in competition for one per JD (if not also per common sense) given his performance the last 2 years coupled with his major league debut.
Mexican WL
I should add that the Mexican WL is not really that impressive (hence, neither is Mendoza’’s performance) and should be pegged at between HighA and AA with the caveat that the players have a lot more experience (lg ave age 31) but few high-ceiling prospects – seems kinda like independent baseball in that regard.
you get two months off between the season and winter leagues
I, also, don’t count spring training as innings pitched btw.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I wouldn't want to be the one to tell
Nelson Cruz that one of their national sports is irrelevant; more power to you if you have the balls for that. I will say, do a little research and then tell us again how long the break is…and then tell us why this matters…or then try to convince us that the breakout years for Borbon or Max or Andrus had nothing to do with their play there, yes, regale us please…and then, while your at it, tell JD to stop sending so many good players to play in these baseball backwaters every year. What a waste when they good be spending time during the off-season getting into bar fights with DGut…
Even if your argument was retarded...
There’s a difference between throwing 100 IP over the span of 1 MLB/MiLB season and spreading that 100 IP over an entire year.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 21, 2009 2:42 AM CST up reply actions
I guess
only the retards know the difference between 12 months and 8.5 months (with no break). guilty as charged. But the real issue is that (competitive) innings matter (for a whole host of reasons). period.
Not necessarily.
Repetitions matter.
It is advantageous for some pitchers not to have many innings on their arm. For a whole host of reasons. Period.
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by inactive lsb user on Dec 21, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
How do you think they matter?
Because those winter league innings don’t do much to make me believe that Moscoso can pitch a full starter’s season without any injury concerns. They also don’t do much to make me think better or worse of any player. So how do you look at those innings and what do you take out of them?
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There
is ZERO evidence to support your claims about Moscoso’s health based on his 2009 season. ZERO. In addition, Moscoso has addressed the issue directly, saying that he is 100% so if you care to countermand the player himself, you go right ahead. His previous bouts with shoulder soreness in 07 and 08 came at the beginning of each season (out 4-6 weeks) but he finished each season and pitched in winter ball each year. this year, no issues starting the season, no shoulder soreness, no health complaints, no DL stay, all while he was on track to finish the season with 170 innings or so as a starter before being yoyo’d between AAA and TX.
As for winter ball, the caliber of talent and experience in VZ/DOM winter ball is equivalent to AAA “plus” with lots of players with major league experience and a good amount of high ceiling high minors guys. So any performance there matters by this definition alone; these are pro leagues with pro players and pro coaches. by what measures then do you completely discount their significance? Your gut is not enough or whatever you’re using.
How their innings or ABs are important to a player’s development depends on the circumstances of the player. For example, TX was considering stretching Feliz out in the Domincan to prep him for his starter’s audition in the spring. They didnt’ do it in the end but the experience as a starter in a league a bit better than AAA would have been important not only to his accumulation of innings but also to improving his repertoire vs pro hitters.
Tell me why Tommy Hunter’s experience in AA this year (a league a step down from winter ball), where he focused on developing his changeup, and then in AAA, developing a cutter is different from doing the same thing for ni’gh 3 months in VZ? Tell me why TX thought it was so important to send Andrus and Max and Borbon winter ball last year to work on their weaknesses (particularly plate discipline and for Max catching skills) if it wasnt because those leagues matter, they are competitive at a high level, and the accumulated innings and ABs are important and relevant to their development as players? You think JD just signs off on these guys because it is some sort of christmas break?
If you look at the emergence of Borbon, Andrus, Max (before his injury), and Moscoso this year, how can you say that winter league experience wasn’t pivotal for their improvement as players?
Yes, 2009 was a healthy season from Moscoso
That still doesn’t completely overshadow his lack of regular season innings in the 4 seasons prior to 2009. I also don’t think I know better than the player himself, but players have a tendency to ignore injuries and injuries also have a knack for leading to more injuries. You can’t just ignore that because he was able to finish strong 2 seasons in a row after starting the season hurt.
I also never said the winter leagues weren’t helpful to a player’s development. It gives players an opportunity to work on something they couldn’t do in the regular season. A lot of times, that is because the player was hurt throughout the regular season and didn’t have enough time on the field to work on their development. That’s why Moscoso pitching in the winter leagues doesn’t prove to anyone that he can stay healthy.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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agreed
at the least, he’s gonna be a very useable MR pitcher starting this year. Even at the big league level, when he’s locating his FB, he was an effective swing and miss pitcher
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
I posted this on the #15 thread late in the day
Just a question about toolsy outfielders
Beltre vs. Velazquez.
Velazquez is about a 1.5 years older than Beltre and at a lower level due to being an idiot in Puerto Rico but is also said to be a “5-tool player” (gets thrown around alot). At least Rangers scout Frankie Thon said it in this article:
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/jul/28/taking-advantage-of-second-chance/
Seems to have a fair amount of power and gets on base (.296/.363/.514 mostly in Spokane).
I know Beltre’s struggles (.223/.278/.318 mostly in BAK) are well documented but is said to have enormous potential and possesses 5-tools (there is that phrase again).
For the much more knowledgable, how much difference is there between these two in regards to being a prospect?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
I'm far from an expert
but aside from the age/level differences, Engel could be a plus defensive CF while Miggy’s more of a plus COF-meh CF type.
I know I’m basically cribbing that from another poster here but I can’t remember who said it.
So, basically, think of Engel as Adam Jones and Miggy as Nelson Cruz if they were to hit there respective penthouses.
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by Keynes on Dec 19, 2009 11:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for the reply
So its basically the value of a CF vs. value of COF that makes Engel the higher ranked prospect? Other than the differences in level of competition thus far of course.
In your analogy I see tremendous value in both Adam Jones and Nelson Cruz as potential ceilings.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
Yuppers.
To echo what his royal Keyness said, you’re talking about a 5-tool CF’er versus a 5-tool RF’er. Adam Jones versus Nelly Crus or Bossman Junior versus Alex Rios.
One additional consideration here is the fact that Beltre profiles as a true plus-plus defender, and guys like that tend to have at least some small value even if they don’t pan out with the bat, as we’ve seen with guys like Corey Patterson and Felix Pie, whereas if Velazquez doesn’t hit his way to the bigs he’ll likely never contribute at all. That’s only a small part of it of course, but it’s something that should be considered, imo.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Must have a flawed definition of "5-tool"
It would seem that Velazquez would be strong enough defensively to “contribute at all” even if he doesn’t rake at the ML level.
Have there been reports of his defensive shortcomings that I missed?
I have no stock in Velazquez over any other player I just find this type of comparison interesting.
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by bioaggie on Dec 19, 2009 2:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Basically it comes down to the difference in how CF'ers and COF'ers are viewed at the major league level...
A guy who struggles with the bat but offers at least the perceived ability studly defense in CF will keep getting work (see: Corey Patterson, Willy Tavarez, Joey Gathright, Felix Pie, Darrin Erstad, etc.), whereas a guy who struggles with the bat but can play studly defense in a COF spot better be one hell of a nice guy if he wants to stick at the major league level.
Fair or not, that seems to be how the league works.
This is what I was referencing when I talked about Beltre having a secondary route to the major leagues. Beltre profiles as a possible plus CF’er or in either corner spot, whereas I don’t think Velzaquez profiles as a CF’er at the major league level.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
I may be just reaching for position player prospects right now
to make myself feel better about that side of things. It is great to have such pitching depth.
I just wish the position players would challenge that depth a little more.
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--Seneca
Tomas Telis and Luis Sardinas aren't getting much love, but they should be on everyone's radar.
I have them both above Velazquez, but in the same tier.
After that it drops off to lottery tickets (Leury Garcia, Lane, Sierra, Macumba, etc.) and guys with limited ceilings (Lemon, Gentry, DiFazio, Bianucci and Mendonca).
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Did we sign Lane?
Thought we wiffed on him.
If so, neat.
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by Keynes on Dec 19, 2009 1:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We did sign Lane
So, up above, just pretend that says ‘Lane is neat’.
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by Keynes on Dec 19, 2009 1:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
HOW DARE YOU POST WHILE I'M TYPING A REPLY TO YOU!!!!
Jerk.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Note to self:
Be fully-lazy jerkass rather than quasi-lazy jerkass, because ’Tron will do research for you.
On-topic, we did do a bevy of toolbox-OF draftin’ this year. I feel for the guy who had to keep ’em all straight during negotiations.
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by Keynes on Dec 19, 2009 1:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yah, JD has pretty much come out and said our scouting department targets the premium athletic positions in terms of position players.
The idea being those positions (C, SS, and CF) are the hardest and therefor most expensive positions to go out and fill via free agency and/or trade.
The trend seems to be that we draft a lot of boom/bust toolsy OF’ers and lower-ceiling college C’s, and use Latin America to grab a lot of SS’s and higher-ceiling C’s.
Sprinkle in a ton of arms to throw against the wall and make sure to waste your second rounder by reaching for a 3b who won’t ever hit, and you’ve pretty much got our amateur acquisition plan under JD down pat.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Lane
IIRC, he had knee-surgery during the off-season. Rangers still have high hopes despite rough summer, IIRC.
Raw athlete who was quite the football player, iirc.
Athletes who can’t really hit like this seem to bust 99% of the time, but I guess the draw of what you’d get if one of these raw bags of toolsy goodness actually learned how to hit is too much for GM’s/Scouting Directors to resist come draft day.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure in our quest for toolsey OF's last draft we whiffed on Blash and Williams, Jr. but signed Lane and Sierra.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 19, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
How the hell
did Beavan make the list already?
Seriously? 13?
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by inactive lsb user on Dec 19, 2009 9:08 PM CST reply actions
This winters list has kinda sucked.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
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overrall the list is ok
but Beavan and Beltre are too high IMHO. And, the fact that Hurley has gotten 10 votes in this poll is ridiculously bad.
I, personally, think Poveda is a top 15 prospect, but there are debates everywhere about our system.
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Hurleyhurley
has about 10 different screen names.
I think it’s fair to attribute the majority of those votes to his personas.
Personally, I’m voting for DiFazio as an ongoing boycott to Beavan’s ranking..
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by inactive lsb user on Dec 20, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
I think C1 is gonna surprise some bitches.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 21, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Based on what?
Guys with great control but mediocre stuff don’t usually get better as they progress through the system. Going by scouting reports, I just don’t see what there is to be positive about.
I've made my C-Wun argument before, but here we go again...
1. His control is insane. In around ~270 IP’s he’s walked 39 dudes. I mean… That’s some Bob Tewksbury shit right there.
2. He keeps the ball on the ground and in the park at a fantastic rate. This coupled with his walk rate gives him a chance to be succesful even if he never strikes out more than ~5 per 9 at the big league level… sort of a cross between Scott Feldman and Derek Lowe.
3. He held his own in AA as a 20 year old. That’s pretty freaking tough. He’s 5 months older than a certain prospect we’re all hot and bothered about who spent the whole season in the Northwest League.
4. Let’s not forget this guy had his delivery completely retooled 2 years ago, which (theoretically) means he’s got a better than usual chance of improving his stuff as he gets used to his new mechanics. At least that’s how I see it.
And, so, that’s it.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 21, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
I really hope
you are right because I love me some C-Wun.
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Tewsbury
that’s the comp I used for him a few months ago, and I think it’s not at all unreasonable. I think Beavan is not a sexy prospect, should not have been voted as high as he is -— BUT -- I still see him as a decent bet to be a good mid-rotation innings eater like Tewks. Beavan is the kind of guy the Twins see to always have one or two of.
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Tewks was pretty insane with the way he supressed walks and strikeouts.
I remember staring slackjawed at the back of his baseball card trying to fathom how a guy could pitch 220+ innings and walk 20 dudes.
C1 might never get that nucking futs, but he’s got the potential to be that kind of guy.
Speaking of Twins, Blackburn’s a good comp for Beavan, too.
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by thedirkatron on Dec 21, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Innings pitched...
Innings pitched, for a minor leaguer, is something that I think is very underrated. Although Blake Beavan’s strikeout numbers, especially in Double-A, weren’t pretty, he was effective all year and pitched 163 innings. Over a five month season, that’s quite an accomplishment. Remember that if he’d gone to a four-year college, Beavan wouldn’t be draft eligible again until this coming June.
On top of that, there’s the issue of Beavan’s velocity. The thing is that velocity is something that could creep back in over the next few years. I think it’s far more likely for that to happen for someone who is 6’7 and weighs 250 lbs like Beavan than a 5’10 170 pounder like Kasey Kiker.
Frankie Francisco. C.J. Wilson. Neftali Feliz. Darren O'Day. Pedro Strop.
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by YourNameHere on Dec 21, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
When I think about having
Beavan and Hunter in the same rotation someday, both of them gobbling up innings behind Feliz and Holland I get downright giddy.
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What are Scheppers and Perez and Main and Font and Ross doing in this wet baseball pants dream of yours?
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by thedirkatron on Dec 22, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
His delivery wasn't completely retooled. It was tweaked.
They also let him go back to it (to some extent) to see if he could find some of that missing velocity. It didn’t work.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 22, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know how the hell Main won #5
He and Ross should be below Font and Gutz, IMO. And the last three polls, with Beavan, Strop and Beltre winning… it seems like people are just voting for familiar names at this juncture, and not doing any actual analysis.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
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by LSJ on Dec 20, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't mind the Strop
I did think Main was too high, but I felt Ross was the #5 prospect over him, then Font, Gutz and Main. Either way, I can live with that because they are all within range of where I would put them.
I like Strop. The Beavan’s and Beltre’s are way off though, but you’re always gonna have disagreements in a poll. Although, when 80% of the people posting didn’t understand Beavan there, you wonder who was voting for him.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Beavan's family
Finished boycotting The Ticket and moved on to other pursuits.
by Conjunction on Dec 20, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
We're not really stopping here...
Are we really stopping here at #16? Is Darren Oliver really that big of a distraction? Has Kinslerhomer given up on the voters of Lone Star Ball?
Frankie Francisco. C.J. Wilson. Neftali Feliz. Darren O'Day. Pedro Strop.
American League Teams simply know them as "The Basterds."
Maybe this is the point when dirkatron takes the captain chair and regains control of this ship.
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Make it so
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
I think posting these polls is a curse of some sort
dirkatressa was gone for a while so K-homer takes over…and now he’s gone. Or maybe dirkie is behind K-homes not posting for a couple days…
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