T.R. Sullivan: It is down to Gilbert & Greenberg
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 2, 2009 4:25 PM CST
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PrintT.R. Sullivan has a story up saying that the competition for buying the Rangers is down to Dennis Gilbert and Chuck Greenberg, with Sullivan quoting sources as saying it is 50/50 as to which it will be.
Sullivan also suggests that Nolan Ryan will not be involved with Gilbert's ownership group, and that a final decision is due by December 15, but it won't come in time to allow the front office to change their approach to the offseason.
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NHL Approval
Is there any precedent for a team in one league being sold contingent on approval by an unaffiliated league? I can’t help but think that this might drag the whole process to a snail’s pace, which of course, makes me sad.
"if daniels was fired today, he would almost be sure to get another shot somewhere else as a GM
i dont know if you can say the same thing abotu RW" - knockoutking
Hicks could end up being a partner in Gilbert’s group, although that’s still being negotiated.
I hope not. Baseball better git rid of Hicks even if that means vetoing a deal involving Gilbert.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
I couldn't care less if Hicks were involved in a minority share...
Wouldn’t make any difference whatsoever…
this is gonna drag on );
But because the Rangers are being sold to satisfy a substantial debt incurred by Hicks Sports Group, any transfer of ownership must also be approved by the NHL and the banks that hold the HSG debt. The NHL is involved because HSG also owns the Dallas Stars.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
I bet that MLB could buy out the NHL
by sending a couple hundred bucks and offering to buy some used zamboni’s from them for the Twins new stadium.
Go Rice Owls!
from heyman
The Giants, Mets, and Royals have interest in free agent catcher Ivan Rodriguez, assuming he doesn’t accept the Rangers’ arbitration offer.
I think Pudge comes back, but if he is offered a better deal and goes to another team I won’t be upset. That nets us a pick. Another smart move by JD.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Sorry AJM
The Rangers aren’t going to be involved with Guerrero unless his market value has seriously diminished. That same holds true with Mike Cameron,
Doesn’t look like we will get Cameron 0:
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
Even Mike Cameron and Vlad Guerrero are to expensive for us
If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be funny.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 2, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
inconceivably pathetic
Budget, Budget, Budget
to JD
“you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.”
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Not that we don't have the money..that's sad =(
But atleast we aren’t going to spend it on those hacks.
Mike Cameron isn't exactly a hack
I’m not in love with him like AJM, but he’s still a decent CFer. Not someone who would help that much on the offensive side of things, but since the org doesn’t trust Borbon I wouldn’t have minded him here.
I didn’t really want Guerrero here, but if we can’t afford him that means we obviously can’t sign anyone better than him, either. Which means no Nick Johnson, and probably no Jim Thome or Troy Glaus either.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 2, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Basically, this is all a realization that this team is going nowhere in 2010.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 2, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
Well
Not if EVERYTHING goes right. Conceivably they could do better than last year. Maybe make a little more noise. But it would take a lotta luck.
by Black Francis on Dec 2, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
If Everything goes right
it might be the Royals and the Pirates in the World Series.
"I don't condone steroids or any other type of growth hormones or anything else, but I could care less, and, for the most part, I don't think the fans give a (bleep). The people that care about it are the people that probably don't like baseball," - Jim Leyland
by DJCahill on Dec 3, 2009 5:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks that way...
hope for the best with what’s here in 2010….go for it in 2011?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 2, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I think we can start that rally cry.
I look at it this way though: 2010 already being in the toilet gives Feliz a chance to get acclimated to the rotation and build up his innings, Holland a chance to get good, and us time to be as patient as need be with Smoak. Plus it’ll make primetime Marin Perez time.
So really, there might not be anything wrong with losing one more season to the ineptitude of Tom Hicks.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 2, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
I can deal with that as long as there is more progress next season...
The excitement of seeing Feliz, Holland and Elvis was great last season and I’m just as excited about watching Smoak and Perez.. Patience….patience….patience….we’ve waited this long, what’s a year more?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 2, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think the org doesn't trust Borbon
I think that they didn’t think he was ready last year to take over the everyday CF job, but I do think they are comfortable going into next season with him as the main CF candidate.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
What has changed though?
I hope you’re right and hey are comfortable with him now, but I haven’t see anything that makes me think they will put him in CF yet.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
It's been one
And he was pretty good in 2008. I don’t expect him to be expensive, but he should get a decent 1-year deal from someone.
And it appears we can’t even afford the shitty/mediocre players right now, so obviously there’s no way we can afford the halfway decent ones.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 2, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't call Glaus halfway decent. he's more in your mediocre category
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
The last three years leading up to his injury last season
He wOBA’d .366, .363 and .371. I wouldn’t call that mediocre.
Now, what the injury has done to him is the big question, but if he’s fully healthy again he could still have some good years left. He’s had a full year to recover and he’s 33 – so it’s not like he’s a relic like all the guys we’ve been connected to so far.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 3, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
i think ive read gilbert would keep
the front office in tact. what about the other group? The only thing i really care about when it comes to who buys the rangers is that the rangers direction doesnt change and Daniels keeps his job though next year
Nolan is a partner with the other group...
So you’d assume it would remain in tact…
What makes Nolan so tactful?
I always thought he’d be a pretty blunt guy?
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 2, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
For all intensive purposes he is
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
Great play on words
The phrase is “intents and purposes”, but with Nolan, “intensive purposes” has cache.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Dec 2, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think/hope you knew what I was doing there which was baiting
And working off of NorCal
But your response is even better.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
I like him too
Don’t understand the gripefest.
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM
by aggierangerfan00 on Dec 2, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I think
misrepresenting his own accomplishments, or taking credit for the accomplishments of others, is something more than blatant self marketing. Yellow flag … or orange … could even be red.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Dec 2, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and I don't think we want an owner that is too hands-on
it’s like having another jerry jones that doesn’t know what they are doing.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Flip a coin
and lets get this shit over with.
"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron
by coolaid on Dec 2, 2009 5:12 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Frankly,
both sound good to me and are an improvement over Hicks. I just want somebody that is willing to invest in this team and be 100% commited.
I want all the kids to do what I do, to look up to me. I want all the kids to copulate me. - Andre Dawson
I finally understand why this process is taking so long...
everyone just realized that they were trying to spend a lot of money to own the Texas Rangers.
I mean, honestly, who’d want to do that?
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 2, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
me me me me me
Nobody is perfect, i am nobody, therefore, i am perfect
by 34express on Dec 2, 2009 6:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whichever prospective owner that proposed a blue tarp to be draped from foul pole to foul pole for all summer games
Should be the winner. :)
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 2, 2009 5:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Serious question - anyone following the Stars economics as of late?
I haven’t but if they’re in the same boat as the Rangers, NHL might very well want to move quickly as well.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
Hmmm
with Sullivan quoting sources as saying it is 50/50 as to which it will be.
Well with 2 candidates I would hope it’s 50/50!
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
this thing is going to drag on
because practically everybody on EARTH has to approve this deal
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
When do we all get to chant?
Ding dong the witch is dead,..the witch is dead..the witch is deaddddd……….
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
well I'm going to start digging a VERY deep hole...
Let me know when you see this and I’ll throw the old hag in the hole.
.
So that's how Michael Phelps can eat 10,000 calories a day!
in baseball there truly is "no place like home"
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
so,
is this how we get ready for the Texas Rangers finally competing for the West? Wasn’t all the talk last summer “we can compete in 2010?” Somehow, I think this is not gonna end pretty.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
I wonder...
if Tron’ will reappear in the early AM tomorrow to kick off the community prospect list.
He’s really going to dominate the rec’d fanposts this year
if not, we need somebody to carry the banner until he arrives
Kinslerhomer had mentioned he might start it.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Hey Adam...
lift our spirits. Who is the 36th greatest Ranger of all time?
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 2, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions
yeh he's pretty obnoxious and came close to getting his ass kicked
I’d of loved to have seen that. Well at least mini-me got his restraining order lifted I see at the bottom, so that’s good news.
So that's how Michael Phelps can eat 10,000 calories a day!
Jim Norton has built a career...
out of trying to get people to almost kick his ass.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 2, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
If...
Both groups keep Nolan, JD, and Thad in the same structure, and allow JD and Nolan to keep going with their front office restructuring/optimization, and as long as both invest in a new scoreboard for Chuck, and look into a Rangers or DFW media network, Im good with it….
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by FormerLSBUser on Dec 2, 2009 10:59 PM CST reply actions
If thats the case
then I want Chuck
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by FormerLSBUser on Dec 3, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
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