Galloway: If Dennis Gilbert Buys the Rangers, Nolan Ryan is Resigning
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2009 10:46 PM CST
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PrintRandy Galloway has a column that was up on the S-T site, and has disappeared, but which you can see here through the Google cache (I assume it will be linked again in the morning).
And what he's saying is pretty major, so I'm linking it now rather than waiting.
Per Galloway, Ryan has decided to resign immediately as Rangers team president if Dennis Gilbert prevails in his efforts to buy the Rangers. Gilbert, incidentally, according to Galloway, has aligned himself with Tom Hicks, and will have Tom Hicks continue to be part of his ownership group and represent the Rangers at the MLB owners meetings and the like, should Gilbert prevail.
Why? Because, according to Galloway, the deal is that Ryan and Jon Daniels both would answer to Gilbert, not to Hicks. Gilbert wants to be in charge of both the business and baseball operations, a combination president and g.m. (think what Jerry Jones does with the Cowboys), and that wasn't the deal Ryan signed on for.
Anyway, read the whole thing. I know there are mixed feelings about Galloway, but he was the one who broke the story on MLB's killing the Matt Purke signing, and I don't know if you can dismiss all this out of hand.
So yeah...after all the celebrating we've been doing about Hicks being gone, it looks like Hicks may be staying on, and Ryan will be heading out the door, with much of the rest of the front office following soon after, given that Gilbert apparently wants to be "hands-on" and be the baseball guy here.
UPDATE -- Well, the cached column has been replaced with this new column, where Galloway is now saying that as of late tonight, the Hicks/Gilbert partnership has fallen apart, and Gilbert is doing this without Hicks, although he also says Gilbert doesn't have the financing in place, and presumably, if Gilbert wants to be "The Man," Nolan still isn't going to stick around.
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The more and more this ownership story goes on
The more it seems like greenburg will be infinitely better than Gilbert.
What a cluster f*ck
Not mediocre. Right about average
Christ Almighty
Those close to Gilbert say his ultimate goal would be a combined team-president-general manager situation. Total control of all things baseball has been his dream.
Can we just get a fucking normal owner for fucking once?
Preference-
An owner that stays the fuck out of all things baseball related. Just sign the checks and stay out of the papers. Good lord.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 3, 2009 11:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And yet, some have fallen head over heels for Gilbert.
Greenberg please be the goddamn winner please.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 3, 2009 10:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Yeah
We’re fucked.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Such idiocracy
By next week, Hicks will announce his choice to buy the team.
At the moment, he will choose Gilbert, a former high-profile baseball players’ agent, because Hicks has partnered up with Gilbert. Tom is selling the team to himself.
I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar
i don't get how this can be allowed
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Anybody ready to be an Astros fan?
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 3, 2009 11:07 PM CST reply actions
c'mon it's not THAT bad
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
That wouldn't be the last straw for you?
You can only take so much.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 3, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know, maybe
but I wouldn’t choose the freaking astros
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
What baseball team will you begin following closely / rooting for?
Because changing directions every couple years gives most people a migraine.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 3, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
i'm a closet dbacks fan
since I went to so many games when I was in school out there. Prob just go with them.
This probably isn’t a bad idea. We need to pick our backup options.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
ROFL
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 3, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
what a clusterfuck
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Ewww.
That’s a pretty unwatchable offense man.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Chris Young/Justin Upton/Mark Reynolds
I’d watch that
I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar
Chris Young sucks.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
I'm used to it
I watched just a few rangers games
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Rays.
Easily.
Roots in Tampa, love the front office. And now I live about an hour from them.
But yeah, I have battered wife syndrome with the Rangers, this, unfortunately, wouldn’t even be close to enough to get me to quit them.
Yes yes you're saber, of course you're a closet Rays fan
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I've personally invested way too much time and energy in my fandom here to switch teams because I don't like the new owner.
But in the eventuality that the Rangers turn into a ballclub as lost as the Royals… I’d probably switch to the Rays. Smart fans and a good ballclub.
I like the Phillies too, but I’ve already vowed never to have an NL team as my #1 favorite.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
When did you start watching baseball? 2007?
The new owner would be the “same” owner, under the initial scenario.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 3, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
2004
And the new owner would be the “same” owner plus an all-powerful dictator running the show.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Under the initial scenario, of course.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Fuck the National League.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Fuck any other team
besides our beloved Texas Rangers
"Blister please, with those wings in your spine.
Love to be with a brother of mine.
How he'd love to find your tongue in his teeth,
In a struggle to find secret songs that you keep,
Wrapped in boxes so tight, sounding only at night as you sleep." ~Jeff Mangum; Neutral Milk Hotel
by jdh90 on Dec 3, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 11 recs
Gawd almighty.
What a great fooking comment. Amen brotha. I don’t know what the fuck these other dudes are talking about.
One of my favorite comments I’ve ever read on this board.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Dec 4, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Worse
Too many people around here never considered the possibility that the Rangers might end up with an owner worse than Tom Hicks at the end of this. Sounds like if Gilbert wins, we still have Tom Hicks in the owner’s suite and we get the equivalent of Jerry Jones the GM running the baseball side… what a kick in the crotch that would be.
Would MLB approve Hicks being such a large role?
Can’t they turn it down and just rid themselves of Hicks altogether?
Selig
I don’t think we can count on him. Jerry Reinsdorf is backing Gilbert, and Reinsdorf and Selig are close.
We need Greenberg to win this thing.
I’ll say it right now: Dennis Gilbert would be worse than Tom Hicks.
by Darrell McKown on Dec 3, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, what the fuck?
New story by Galloway:
http://www.star-telegram.com/284/story/1809387.html
Supposedly the Gilbert/Hicks partnership of doom has fallen apart now?
ok well that is much better news
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Gilbert must have found out he won't get approval
with Hicks having a major role.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Thank the good lord...
We can only hope this new story is on point…
The worst part of that story to me was not Hicks staying on, though.
It was a new owner basically trying to take over roster management and undoing what is shaping up as a really good front office.
The guy's in the insurance business, I'm sure he'd make a great GM.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 6:36 AM CST up reply actions
Yup... thats the worst part
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
So according to Galloway's revised article
The Hicks/Gilbert partnership has fallen apart. Hicks is now trying to join Nolan with Greenberg’s group. Nolan will still quit if Gilbert takes over and Gilbert’s still looking for complete control.
Gilbert spoke differently earlier in the week
but it also sounds like JD isn’t as safe as we thought.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
If you recall...
…Gil Brandt hung around for a year or so after Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys, until Jones and Jimmy got settled in.
That’s probably what would happen here…Gilbert would come in and start cleaning house at the end of the 2010 season.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Still
That’s not as safe as we thought JD was before this was posted.
Meh
I don’t think Daniels is “safe” no matter who buys the team.
I mean, I think he’s here through 2010, but a new owner, whoever it is, certainly is going to think about bringing in his own g.m.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 3, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Well, for whatever reason
Nolan seems to think JD is okay and I imagine he’d be safe with the Greenberg group unless there’s some more high level dumbassery.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
should read ...
“some more high level dumbassery from JD”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Yep
which is sad becasue everyone out there that knows anything agrees that JD is a very smart young GM.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 3, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
You're right
but I guess it wasn’t quite clear how much control Gilbert wanted.
Or maybe I’ve just been too far out of the loop…
It sounds like Hicks is simply running around trying to align himself with whoever the percieved favorite is
And all of a sudden Gilbert has dropped out of the lead because he’s not equipped to deal with all of Hicks’s debt.
At least that’s what I’m getting from this new revised version.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
Actually, I agree with Josey on this one.
I think it’s more likely that Gilbert dropped him after he realized there was no way MLB would accept his offer with Hicks in such a prominent role.
Man, Hicks looks like a clown through all of this....
…and I fucking love it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 6:38 AM CST up reply actions
Boy, it does just
smack of further desperation by Hicks. “Please don’t take my team away from me. For a little money, I’ll be a better owner from now on!”
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
"We’re tired of hearing how bad the Rangers pitching staff is and we’re doing all we can to change it." - Kevin Millwood, 5/6/09
and wtf
galloway doesn’t know what is going on clearly. Sounds like he ran a story too quickly.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
Somebody else ran the story, dumbass.
RG wrote it and new information trickled in.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
yawn
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ehh
None of what you said is wrong, Josey.
But as a journalism student who thinks he knows a little bit about news organziations, I believe that RG has significant pull with his editors. If he’s got a story, with his stature in the Metroplex, then his editors will try and make sure that story gets out ASAP.
Saying he ran it too quickly is incorrect, but I believe RG was (and is) working on this. This story could easily change again soon.
Well, all I can say is...
Fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck
Dear Mr. Greenberg
Please, save our sinking fucking ship. Without you, this thing is screwed.
Signed,
Rangers fandom.
by Conjunction on Dec 3, 2009 11:18 PM CST reply actions 57 recs
Fucking hell, this thing better top 50 recs
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you reach 50, that's a new plateau. At that point, your post should turn purple.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
I support this idea.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 4, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
If even half of the two versions of the article linked here is true
I’m rooting for Greenberg. The very last thing we need is another Jerry Jones clusterfuck.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
If Hicks is content with being a powerless stooge
In a similar role to what John Hart currently does, I don’t give a fuck. If he wants real involvement, I’d rather see Jerry Jones buy this thing.
The word clusterfuck needs to go away.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 3, 2009 11:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What about
Clusterfuckapalooza?
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 3, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, but
‘Too legit to quit’ isn’t stale?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Dec 3, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Ever see the NFL Films
when Wade Phillips was the DC for the Atlanta Falcons back in the early 90s doing the “Too Legit To Quit” dance shtick?
Priceless.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
No.
I like Clusterfuck.
I like the way it sounds and it reminds me of the military. Even though I’ve never been in the military.
Plus, when appropriately used, it can paint a clear picture of a situation.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Dec 4, 2009 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
Military Version
The military version would be Charlie Foxtrot.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Dec 4, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
I go watch a fantastic Civil War for the Rose Bowl...
and come back to this bullshit?
Pah! A pox on all of these evil rich white men.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 3, 2009 11:31 PM CST reply actions
Mother fuck?????????????
GO GREENBERG/NOLAN/HICKS!!!!!!!!
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Goddammit
Can’t we get a fucking owner who leaves the fucking front office alone, keeps his fucking nose out of running the team, writes the fucking checks to get us a couple of decent free fucking agents so we can continue this fucking dream and go win a couple of fucking World Series titles?
Please?
Fuck!
by Flynnyrd on Dec 3, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions 13 recs
8 fucks in one post, awesome!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
The problem is
wealthy, white guys are buying these teams as investments (there are much more profitable ways to spend big money)—these are $500 million toys. If you had a $500 million toy, would you let a bunch of other guys play with it while you sat in the shadows? I’m not saying teams benefit from owners messing with day-to-day business, but I get it.
From what i've read, I dont think Gilbert is an idiot when it comes to baseball
He knows his shit. He’s not Jerry Jones. I hated the idea of him before yesterday, but the more I read, the more comfortable I felt. Nolan Smolan, as long as he gives JD a fair opportunity
He won't
that’s the thing
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 3, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Losing Nolan is a huge blow to the public image of the organization
A ton of ticket-buying, generic Ranger fans will be pissed as hell that this new douche owner from California drove out Nolan Fucking Ryan.
yup
public perception is almost at rock bottom anyways. Winning will bring the bandwagon back.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 3, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think Jerry Jones is an idiot when it comes to football.
I’d actually bet he understands the game and talent evaluation better than any other owner.
He just doesn’t understand it well enough to be the best GM.
Dont get me wrong, I agree, Jerry Jones has learned quite a bit through the years
He knows his shit today. I more meant, this isn’t jerry post late 90s-early 00s
All the plastic surgery gave him football knowledge? Amazing!
by FlamedAvenger on Dec 3, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually think most of his knowledge comes from having been a football player and friends with guys like Switzer and Jimmy through most of his adult life.
Obviously “played the game!!!” only gets you so far (at least with most reasonable people), and Switzer’s knowledge of how to operate a football team was limited to college, but, again, I’m calling him smart for an owner, not a GM. (Though I really don’t think he’s as bad a GM as most Cowboys fans act, I just wish he’d give the job to someone better).
I think he and stephen learned a whole lot when bill parcells was here
particularly, in manipulating the salary cap and drafting
That had actually been one of my criticisms of him once upon a time.
There were ways to manipulate the cap that were obvious that seemed to escape Jones, which astounded me. It was like he hated the cap so much he wasn’t even going to try to work with it.
Galloway, Nolan, Hicks
Trying to be as objective as possible about RG, I think it’s fair to say:
a) he’s got very good sources, better than anyone else in the Metroplex
b) he is clearly Nolan’s mouthpiece in the ownership PR battle
The original article came across as Nolan publicly challenging Hicks to be the man that pushed him out. Something then happened to get RG to back off of that (perhaps Hicks’ camp fearing the fallout of the original article) as the subsequent column isn’t quite as doom & gloom. Hard to imagine the Hicks/Gilbert deal fell through conveniently in the hour or so between the post time of the two columns.
So many interesting conflict of interests here… Nolan working for Hicks but clearly not rooting for him to get what he wants… Gilbert working for the White Sox but privy to the inner workings of the Rangers… Hicks trying to raise investment to pay down his debt and effectively purchase his own team, while also accepting bids from others… Nolan theoretically trying to get the value of the franchise up, while also hoping to buy it for less… among other odd storylines.
Wish we knew what was going on behind the scenes. I’d buy the book.
You're absolutely wrong.
What this little mini fiasco proves AGAIN is that Randy Galloway is at best, irresponsible. I’m way past the point of trusting anything he writes. His mysterious ‘sources,’ whoever they are, seem to be wrong whenever anyone cares enough to deny them, and most of the points he makes can’t be disputed because because they’re too vague to begin with. He would be a better fit writing for the National Enquirer or if he wants a more respectable job, maybe the Daily News. It is foolish to get overwrought about anything that Randy Galloway writes. His columns are designed to get us, the faithful, in a lather. His tale is “told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
Newsflash
There aren’t many papers that AREN’T like the National Enquirer.
Everyone wants to sell copies of their paper. That’s the way it’s always been. And if you can do that while being truthful, more power to ya.
Besides, we’re living in a world where US Weekly, TMZ and The National Enquirer had the biggest scoops on a story about one of the top 50 famous people in the world. Can’t really knock them right now.
Galloway has done exactly what he set out to do: “get us, the faithful, in a lather.” That makes him, in this case, a successful columnist. Unfortunately.
At least it’s something – if he’s wrong, he’s wrong. Better to have a story to talk about on a Thursday night than another night of complaining.
You know how they only put warning labels on something...
because someone, somewhere, has used their iron to smooth out a wrinkle while wearing their shirt, or couldn’t wait until they were finished bathing to eat some delicious, fresh toast, or thought their lap was a much better place for a scalding Hot Cup of Joe rather than the cup it came in? We certainly wouldn’t need to be warned about these things if some brave trooper hadn’t been the first to try it. Is this true for idioms, too?
That leads me to wonder when exactly someone actually did defecate in a punchbowl and when can I meet him/her to shake their (hopefully recently washed) hand?
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, if you need a warning label to keep from ironing your chest or are in the habit of storing hot liquids
in your crotch, then you’re exactly the type of market that Randy Galloway is shooting for.
x
Nolan working for Hicks but clearly not rooting for him to get what he wants…
I would wager that there are quite a few folks working for the Rangers who feel the same way.
Ha. I just read the original story. I get my first nod in the big time media,
and of course, the story is pulled!
But a word of caution. Gilbert has close ties with Jerry Reinsdorf, the White Sox owner, and Reinsdorf has the ear of commissioner Selig. That’s Ranger danger.
Still, it’s nice to be recognized.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Dec 4, 2009 12:48 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
I know someone who wasn't unconditionally celebrating Hicks leaving
There is definitely worse than the status quo. Gilbert coming in, wanting to be “hands on”, Hicks staying involved, and Nolan leaving (and probably JD within a year or two) is far scarier to me than a shamed Tom Hicks and the current front office.
Go Rice Owls!
That would be the single best way to alienate the fanbase and the metroplex.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
I hate and distrust
1. Jerry Reinsdorf
2. Tom Hicks
3. Bud Selig
probably more than anyone in baseball, aside from Mike Scioscia. Yet these seem to be the three that will decide the fate of the Rangers for the foreseeable future. What a situation.
Reinsdorf
is pure hypocritical evil. I hate the man more than any other figure in sports. To me, the White Sox and Bulls can’t lose enough.
Go Rice Owls!
Reinsdorf
He and Selig were both heavily involved in the 80’s collusion scandal, so they’ve got plenty of experience in attempting to screw people over. It’s a shame assholes like this find a way to stay in power, but unfortunately, that seems to be par for the course in this country…
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Reinsdorf, Hicks and Selig
Those are the three guys that Dennis Gilbert is leveraging in his attempt to buy the Rangers.
That should scare you.
Are you really sure that a refinanced Tom Hicks would really have been worse than a stooge for Jerry Reinsdorf?
by Darrell McKown on Dec 4, 2009 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
It does scare me
I don’t have any faith that Hicks can keep his junk together whether he is temporarily refinanced or not, but option 2 does nothing for me either. I’m praying for a third door.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 5, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
Well it was a stressful evening for me, and this just made it so much better…
I will take Hicks as a board member of Chuck’s group, as long as Chuck sais “Go JD, Go Nolan, Go go win me a championship”. Im for that group.
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by FormerLSBUser on Dec 4, 2009 12:58 AM CST reply actions
All this Hicks love
is really desperation to keep Nolan and JD in town.
I would rather keep Nolan and JD, but still see Hicks ride off into the sunset. After all the man has put this franchise through, why oh why would anyone think Hicks could be part of the solution moving forward?
X
Galloway: If Dennis Gilbert Buys the Rangers,NolanRyan isResigningGoing to set Himself on Fire.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 7:30 AM CST reply actions
yeah, it means my bid wasn't accepted.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Seriously
If a few grand, and old Honda CRX and some Chicken Express coupons won’t do the trick, there’s no pleasing these people!
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Dec 4, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I could throw in a large plasma TV, an XBox 360 + games, and a 2004 Hyundai Tiburon.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
I'm in for an old Weber Grill...
…needs a new cooking grate though.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
I could
probably go to Thailand and wrangle up a few young boys. He looks like he’d be into that sorta thing.
wow, that conversation came to a screeching hault.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a Sooner Schooner
That Hicks could ride on his way out of town.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
OMG, Chicken Express!
That’s something I haven’t heard in a while. My brother worked there when he was in high school (I was like 8 at the time).
I eat there ~ 3 times per week.
Love that shit. Keep it simple.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
my buddy has worked there for like 10 years
he told me to never order the tea because they use a doorstop to stir it. That’s just at one location though.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 4, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
It's the one in Arlington
near Bowen and Pioneer in case anyone is worried ha
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 4, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Jo-Ed's Bombers
Awesome
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 4, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
x
that sir, is very funny! rec from me.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Hicks
The other thing about letting him keep, say, 15-20% of the team as part of a new ownership group (hopefully led by Chuck Greenberg), is that reduces the amount of capital the new owner has to raise by about $75-100 million.
But it also means Tom Hicks is still involved
in the organization.
I don’t want the worst owner in MLB to have any affiliation with the new regime.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
by Josey Wales on Dec 4, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He would be a minority owner
Give me an example of a 15-20% minority owner who has any significant say in how an organization is run today.
by Darrell McKown on Dec 4, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
I saw where you have said the 2006-2008 version of Tom Hicks "really
wasn’t that bad"… how can you say that and why would you want that person still affilliated with this team?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Just don't be surprised when the money disappears again.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
We saw a couple of weeks ago anonymous quotes from
inside the Ranger FO that talked about what a liability Hicks has become to the ticket-buying public. He needs to go away and never come back again. I don’t see him as some kind Don Carter (who very clearly cared about the team but didn’t know what to do after Aguirre left) clone who shuts up and says nothing to the new owners.
I see Hicks as somebody who would aspire to be an influential voice in the ear of Gilbert while doing everything he can to position himself to come back when or if his economic position changes.
I also think Gilbert is being shortchanged a little bit (this is a former player who has positioned himself as a viable candidate to become an owner) and I’m fine if he’s the new owner even if it means Ryan or JD are gone. I just don’t want Hicks to come back in any shape or form.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Does the fact he wants total control, ala Jerry J, not scare you?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
No. He's somebody who has been around
the game a helluva lot longer than JD so there shouldn’t be any painful learning curves to endure.
He’s a self-made businessman who has been around the game at a variety of different levels for what, 30 years+? He’s gonna be a true motherfucker to negotiate with on trades and free agents.
I would much rather have the self-made businessman than somebody like Perot Jr or Hicks who viewed the Mavericks/Rangers completely as a business proposition whle winning took a decided backseat.
I see Gilbert as much more of a Mark Cuban than a Perot Jr/ Hicks and while JD/Ryan may go, we have a chance to be in very good hands that are motivated to woo the fans back and also win.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Oh shoot, he's been around the game!
Automatically a better GM than anyone who hasn’t, I forgot that rule.
Baseball Guy. Yup. Always the best option.
I'd rather have somebody who has been around the game than an Ivy Leaguer who doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
JD is obviousy very bright but he didn’t know what the hell he was doinng early on and wasn’t until somebody like Nolan (who had been around t he game 40 years but probably doesn’t know the internet exists) came aboard that the Ranger FO dumbassery came to a halt.
Gilbert appears to be fairly bright, having succeeded at a variety of endeavors… why do you think he’d dismiss the sabermetric approach?
The fact that he got to the level he did as an athlete (which is nothing to sneeze at) and was as successful as he was at business gives him points with me.
There’s also a chance he’d make time to talk to everybody at Newberg Night.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I'm not sure I understand your perspective.
Gilbert and Nolan are at odds. If you think Nolan helped JD grow up so quickly, why would it not alarm you that Nolan won’t work for Gilbert?
It seems possible if not likely that Gilbert’s views might be very different from Nolan’s. Nolan has supported successful ongoing efforts within the organization and now has a short but nice track record with Rangers.
Why would you just assume that Gilbert would be as successful as Nolan, and why are you not upset that Gilbert would not allow Nolan to continue to do the successful things he has done?
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
This.
Like tricer posted yesterday, I believe there is a reason that Nolan aligned himself with Greenberg, but not with Gilbert.
Unless Galloway comes up with it, we’ll never hear a quote on that.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know if Nolan helped JD grow up or if he just shot
down a lot of his Broussardian ideas to spend money and try to make the team better.
I don’t want JD left alone to do this job by himself. I saw his fine work from 2006-2008 and we’re still paying the consequences.
If Gilbert is in there by himself with underlings like JD doing a lot of he dirty work, I’m fine with Nolan leaving.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
But wouldn't it bury you to lose Nolan, merely 2 years after that glorious day?
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
We sure are still paying the consequences
A young team coming off a winning season with a farm system stocked full of talent.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
My question really isn't about JD's competence, but about Nolan and Gilbert's competence.
It seems in your arguments that ANY person with baseball-playing experience is needed to cross-check JDs work.
Does it not matter to you who is keeping JD in check? You aren’t a bit worried that Gilbert’s philosophies might actually align with JDs as opposed to Nolan’s?
The fact that Nolan won’t work with Gilbert at least suggests there is a difference in emphasis on what baseball players should be targeted and how they should be developed.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
No.
No owner should ever try to act as GM. Bad things happen EVERY time an owner gets too involved in picking the talent.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Yep, it's called the checks and balances system
where one head keeps the other from making a stupid decision.
somebody around
isn’t that the reverse argument for not wanting Nolan around?
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
He's a businessman. Period.
Until people learn to understand that, they’ll never begin to sniff his trail.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 4, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
More importantly, as a minority owner he wouldn't have enough power to overleverage the Rangers
in other financial matters.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
I'm watching this Costas interview of Selig on MLB..
..what a jagov.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 9:23 AM CST reply actions
Costas
is a genius. If he would take the job of commish, and institute some of the changes outlined in his book, baseball would be FAR better off.
You made it through a post without talking about human trafficking...
…I’m proud of you.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"I spoke with a wife of a Ranger at LaGuardia Airport (just before the infamous siddown with Dom Chiti) and she told me everybody in the organization was pissed at Tom Hicks." - JDubs
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 4, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
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