New Year's Eve Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 9:56 AM CST
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FYI - Mike Leach got fired.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I think I remember seeing something about that, can't remember where though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Jesus Mike
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
OT...
with all the famous people that have passed away this year why couldn’t this guy have just died too.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
At least gets to have some more sweet, sweet Vicodin
They probably have to use horse tranquilizers on the guy given his tolerance level to narcotics.
It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops.
Go fuck yourself.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 31, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
…has a great medical plan.
by Black Francis on Dec 31, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
At least the Kopechne family has some closure now.......
La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!
by Captain Fubar on Dec 31, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
you're speaking for them now, are you?
if they wanted closure, they could have sued – which they didn’t.
well.....
I just know, that if someone left a family member of mine for dead like Kennedy did and was more concerned about covering his ass rather then owning up to what happened, I’d be glad the responsible party was now meeting his maker.
La naiba cu Monkey Rally !!!!!
by Captain Fubar on Dec 31, 2009 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure...
seems like it though. MJ, Ted Kennedy, Patrick Swayze, John Hughes, Farrah Fawcett, Ed McMahon, Ron Silver, Steve McNair and of course Marilyn Chambers. And for you wrestling fans out there, did you know “Umaga” died? I just saw that. A heart attack the beginning of December.
I know a lot of people die every year, just seems like a few more recognizable names this year than most. A lot of those names aren’t exactly from old age either.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
of course, Brittany Murphy as well
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Dec 31, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And the old dude that was fapping
And The Joker
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
and the line
you just crossed it, wow
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 31, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Per Rosenthal Twitter- Marlon Byrd close on 3 year deal with Cubs.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 31, 2009 11:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Bruce Levine
Bruce Levine from ESPN Chicago is saying the same thing, nothing from the team however.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Yay!
Comp picks!
"To have the judgment and wisdom and personal touch of Nolan Ryan, and the tremendous group that JD has assembled, I think the Rangers on the baseball side are the envy of every franchise in baseball in terms of talent."
-- Chuck Greenberg
WOW!
First Milton, now this.
I can just see Soriano and Byrd chasing down a flyball in left center and crashing into each other, taking each other out for 3 months. That’s the Cubs luck.
Oh wait, that would require some sort of effort or hustle from Soriano. Nevermind.
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
Byrd hustles enough
…to bang into Soriano even if he’s just standing there. That’s face and grit.
by Black Francis on Dec 31, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
I honestly could see Byrd flying past Soriano and catching a foul ball in LF
that Alfonso quit on.
At the very least there will be one time when Byrd will be further in left field trying for a home run than Soriano.
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
Which Ranger will the Cubs sign next year
by Triple Play on Dec 31, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe a former Ranger like Kevin Millwood?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Dec 31, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
picture
my buddy knows that guy in the picture at the top of the thread. pretty random
Onley
thinks the Padres will see what they canget for Gonzalez at the trade dealine.
The Padres will, “in all likelihood,” gauge the market for Adrian Gonzalez this summer and deal him before the July 31st trade deadline. The Mets, Mariners and Red Sox could all bid for the slugger, but the list of suitors could change drastically by mid-summer
He is signed through 2011..
10:$4.75M, 11:$5.5M club option (no buyout)
IF the ownership situation is resolved by then and IF the rangers are in contention, trading for Adrian would make one hell of a splash for the new owner.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
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Yeah, then he can man 3rd
After MY is traded for Lincecum, and a throw in high-upside arm…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
by Rodney on Dec 31, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bumgarner or bust.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 31, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
No thanks...
he will cost a shitload in prospects and this team already has Smoak/Davis.
Let the M’s trade their entire farm system for him.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Perhaps we put Smoak/Davis in the trade.
Davis, Font, Kiker, and another prospect for AG?
Give me team chemistry and emotion over stats any day. Do you think 34,000 Ranger fans were screaming their asses off over Pudge and his .275 OBP?
Unless the other prospect is Perez...
…or Font or Kiker make a Hollandesque leap in the first half of the season, that isn’t going to be near enough.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Why not?
Look what we got for Teixeira.
Feliz: Amazing arm but was still in rookie ball
Andrus: 18 year old struggling a little in High A but with amazing upside
Salty: young catcher who was rushed to the big leagues but with upside
Harrison: MORP lefty in AA at the time
Jones: LOOGY potential still in A ball at the time
Now imagine if we packaged something like
Smoak: (comparable to Salty) young with a ton of upside at a position they will need to replace
Font: (comparable to Feliz) Young amazing arm but will be in High A most likely at midseason
Profar: (comparable to Andrus) Young, slick SS with amazing upside but will be in rookie or Low A at midseason
Kiker/Kirkman (comparable to Harrison) MORP Lefties in AA or AAA
Atlanta got Teixeira without touching their top notch prospects (Heyward, Schafer, Hansen) so I think we could do a package without giving up Perez, Scheppers, Feliz, or Holland although yeah I imagine they will ask for those guys.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think Smoak/Font/Profar
Is pretty damn good quality
I imagine however it will come down to how the Padres want to address things. If they are in full blown rebuild and want to see young guys right away then they won’t want someone like Font who is a year or two out and Profar who is 3 years at the minimum out. When we made our trade we could afford to go a year or two before seeing the results in the majors because our owner had committed to the full out rebuild and expectations were lowered considerably
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Profar v. Andrus
Remember what Jules said about comparing a foot massage to putting your tongue in the holiest of holies?
That’s what it is like, comparing Andrus in 2007 to Profar in 2010.
Not the same ballpark, the same league, the same effin sport.
And Davis is either going to be hitting well enough that you aren’t going to trade for Gonzalez (or at least, aren’t going to include him in the trade) because the upgrade isn’t significant enough, or he’s going to have not near the trade value Salty did.
If you want to put Smoak in the deal, and say Smoak, Font, Kiker, and something else, that’s different. But even then, Kiker isn’t Harrison, Kirkman isn’t close to Harrison, and you still don’t have an Andrus equivalent.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Id say Kiker is a pretty decent comp for Harison
Not great but pretty close. Both spent their age 21 seasons in AA posting sub 4 ERAs (Harrison was 3.36, Kiker 3.86). Harrison had better control but Kiker strikes out more guys.
I should have worded the comps better as well. Basically we got a guy who was in High A and had amazing upside and a guy in Rookie ball also with amazing upside both of whom had a ways to go. Giving up Font and Profar would be close to comparable in that sense just the guy we got in High A was a SS and the guy we would give thats in High A would be the pitcher.
I would say Smoak is a better prospect than Salty was, wasn’t trying to diminish Salty as a prospect, since Smoak is a consensus top 20 in all of baseball while Salty was more in the 50 range IIRC.
Basically Smoak > Salty, Font < Feliz but not by much and at a higher level, Profar <<< Andrus but with similar tools, ceilings, and only one level lower (assuming he starts in Hickory like has been talked about), Kiker < Harrison only due to control but its not a huge gap. So if we threw in one of our other prospects who blew Beau Jones out of the water it could get done.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
LOL
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 31, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
If'n you gonna be crazy
Do it with CONVICTION, BsStyle!!!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
That's right
you know how I roll…
Profar isn't starting the season in Hickory
If he’s in the U.S. for 2010, he’ll be playing for the AZL team.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think both he
and Sardiinas will be in Spokane…AZL is for the braxton lane types not 7 figure guys.
Also
Atlanta got Teixeira without touching their top notch prospects (Heyward, Schafer, Hansen) so I think we could do a package without giving up Perez, Scheppers, Feliz, or Holland although yeah I imagine they will ask for those guys.
This is just flat wrong. Heyward had only signed a month before the Teixeira trade, so he wasn’t an option.
The Rangers supposedly could have had either Jordan Schafer or Elvis Andrus, not both, and they took Andrus.
Tommy Hanson was never an option, it doesn’t appear, but you are acting like Saltalamacchia was just some second-tier prospect they had no use for.
The three guys they got were the top three prospects per BA’s top 10 heading into the season, plus Feliz, who was highly regarded.
The Braves absolutely did touch their top notch prospects in the Teixeira trade.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Actually
Hanson didn’t really bust out as an elite prospect until 2008.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
How 'bout
Smoak/Davis, CJ, McCarthy, Harrison/Hurley, Font, Kiker, and one other mid-level pitching prospect if they throw in Heath Bell?
I don't see why San Diego would do that
Also, San Diego has Kyle Blanks coming up, so they’d probably have not much interest in Davis or Smoak. Part of the reason why they could deal Gonzalez is because of Blanks, who really can only play 1B.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
It would give them a number of quality ML ready guys
they can fill out their roster with, (which they seem to be lacking). Maybe we could also convince them that Davis can be an everyday 3rd baseman.
Teams like San Diego
They aren’t looking for roster fillers…they are looking for potential impact players. Plus, C.J. is eligible for free agency at the same time Gonzalez is, and he will make close to the same amount Gonzalez will in 2010, so they’d have to turn around and deal him anyway. Ditto McCarthy, although he won’t make as much as C.J.
Harrison and Hurley have no trade value right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
A trade for Gonzalez has to have one of Feliz or Holland in it
And then you start adding from there. I guess if you think that Perez has gotten himself into the same level as those you could probably put Perez into the mix also. But one of our top three pitchers pretty much has to be a part. Then probably 3-4 of our next tier. And that might get it done. If he hasn’t moved after the trade deadline then you might be able to get him cheaper next off season, but I’ll bet he moves somewhere at the dead line.
What do voluntary mean?
I think the #1 farm system has enough depth
that they wouldn’t have to give up one of their top 4 (or 5 if you include Holland) to get Gonzalez. A lot will depend on how some players are performing come July. If Kiker and Moreland are handling AAA, then they might be player close to the MLs that SD may want along with some lower prospects like Font, Ross and Main. Muxh will depend on competing offers and how much SD wants quality over quantity.
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Come on
You aren’t being realistic.
You aren’t going to get Gonzalez for a package headlined by Moreland, Kiker and Font.
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 31, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Knowing what we got for Teixeira
What would SD want/need that is reasonable?
I would imagine they would ask for Perez or Smoak as a headliner but I think we could get it done with Font as the “headliner” and add in several mid-lower tier prospects. Font, Profar, Kiker/Kirkman, plus one or two other guys could be a starting point for negotiations
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Not enough...
Gonzalez is still under control for 2 more years at a total of 10 mil. The Padres will have to be blown away to move him.
I’d say Smoak, Feliz/Holland, Perez, and Moreland may get them to think about it. Or you could try and substitute CD for Smaok and add another prospect like Kiker.
There’s no way they do the deal without any of the big four of Holland, Feliz, Smoak, and Perez. It would cost the Rangers at least 2 of those guys.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
At midseason it would only be 1.5 years
And like I said above we didn’t get any of the Braves top prospects for Tex, the guys we were most excited about were in the lowest levels of the minors. Look at what Cleveland got for 1.5 years of Cliff Lee. We could do a package without Perez, Scheppers, Holland, or Feliz and still get AGon I believe
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
What's the happs on Dickie D's 2 pm chat ?
Can’t find it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
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