World Cup Draw Thread
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Soccer world focuses on 2010 draw in Cape Town
CAPE TOWN, South Africa — The eyes of the soccer world focused on Cape Town on Friday, with fans of 32 competing nations hoping for a kind draw at next year's World Cup.
Coaches, former soccer stars and celebrities were gathering for a draw ceremony to decide the eight groups of four teams.
Oscar-winning movie star Charlize Theron will help FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke in a lavish ceremony due to start at 7 p.m.
Defending champion Italy, five-time winner Brazil and European champion Spain will be looking to avoid the sort of draw that makes it tough to get through the group phase. Teams from New Zealand to Mexico, Chile to North Korea, Slovakia to host South Africa will hope those conducting the draw will give them a chance of a place in the knockout phase.
The 32 nations in the draw have been split geographically into four pots which will eventually produce eight groups of four teams.
South Africa, as host, has been given one of the seeded positions along with Italy, Brazil, Spain, England, Germany, Netherlands and Argentina.
"Expectations are very high and this is the start of the World Cup for me and the other coaches involved," said South Africa coach Carlos Alberto Parreira, who led his native Brazil to the 1994 title and has coached at three other World Cups. "I have been involved in World Cup draws before. As Brazil's national coach, expectations were just as high but this one is extra special because we are the World Cup hosts."
The other three South American teams — Paraguay, Chile and two-time World Cup winner Uruguay — are also in the same pool so they can't meet in the first round. The same applies to the four Asian qualifiers, North Korea, South Korea, Japan and Australia. and Africa's other qualifiers, Nigeria, Ghana, Algeria, Ivory Coast and Cameroon.
The 13 European teams in the competition can't avoid each other altogether, but there can't be more than two in any group.
The second band of European teams — France, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark, Switzerland, Greece and Serbia — are in the same pool. That has angered the French, who felt they should have been seeded after winning the title in 1998 and reaching the final four years ago.
Because France is in the European pot, there could be a repeat of the 2006 World Cup final in the group stage, with Italy possibly meeting the French.
With the draw ceremony for the June 11-July 11 championship taking place and hundreds of delegates and officials from around the world gathering in Cape Town, the bidding nations for the World Cups in 2018 and 2022 are also taking the opportunity to impress observers.
David Beckham is one of the leading figures backing England's bid. But the 1966 hosts face opposition from the United States, Australia, Russia, Japan, Qatar, Indonesia, South Korea and joint bids from Spain-Portugal and Netherlands-Belgium.
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I'm pretty excited to watch this, despite not being a big futbol fan...
I thoroughly enjoyed the last World Cup though.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
yeah I'm not a big soccer guy
but the WC is a different animal for me. I like the nationalism aspect of it.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 4, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Absolutely
The WC always ends with me say “I think I’m going to really start following the EPL, and eventually watch the UEFA championships and all that.”
I never do.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
EPL is getting easier to follow...
…with ESPN games on the weekends.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Question:
How do they determine the pools?
I understand that 1 team from each pool goes to each group.
Pool 1 seems to be the elite..
Is it all about how these teams are ranked worldwide?
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
The pools
Pot 1: The top 7 nations in the current FIFA rankings + South Africa (host nation)
Pot 2: nations from CONCACAF (North America, Central America, Caribbean) plus AFC (Asia) and OFC (Oceania)
Pot 3: nations from CONMEBOL (South America) and CAF (Africa)
Pot 4: nations from UEFA (Europe)
Generally, the teams from South America & Europe tend to be the strongest- all the non-South Africa teams in Pot 1 are from those two continents.
There are some good teams on the other continents- the US, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Ghana, and Chile are all capable of making some noise in the tournament.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
I generally know how good each team is..
just couldn’t put together how the pools were formed outside of Group 1
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
Aw yeah
Charlize Theron sighting…anything that gets her on TV is good by me!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
She's pretty
AND charming.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Dec 4, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Must say...
…I had completely forgotten about her. Won’t be making that mistake for a while…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
France isn't a Top 8 team?
Did that tie w/ Ireland drop them out?
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
That's the rumor...
that they were practically penalized for the Hand of Henry.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Got it.
That sucks for whomever is in their group from Pot 1.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
Imagine a...
Argentina, States, Ivory Coast, France draw.
Ultimate group of death.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Ivory Coast is that good huh?
I’m seeing a lot of people talking about them in this ESPN chat thing.
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
Ivory Coast
Yeah, they’re pretty good- they have Didier Drogba & Solomon Kalou (Chelsea), Yaya Toure (Barcelona), Emmanuel Eboue (Arsenal), and Kolo Toure (Man City), along with a solid group of secondary players.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
They are REALLY good
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
by BAC on Dec 4, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
which is flat out amazing given that nations history
I can't help it. I’m an asshole.
-brettgardner on Jul 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT
Is Argentina viewed as the best team in the world coming in?
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
I certainly wouldn't want to be facing...
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Current FIFA rankings
Spain is currently #1.
Here’s a link to the rankings:
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Which seed...
do you think the US should hope to avoid the most?
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Hard to say
I think all of the #1 seeds except South Africa are better than the USA, though we have beaten Spain.
Lucky Mexico- gets South Africa!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Anyone from this group:
Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Germany, France
Italy would be there if they didn’t have such a history for starting off poorly. England is probably there now with Capello.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
I don't get Argentina's rankings
They’ve played like total shit… pretty much since Maradona took over, barely even made the WC, and yet they’re still in the Top 7?
I remember the tie they got in Peru
Argentinians were livid about not being able to beat a sorry-ass Peruvian team. And I heard, some guy in Peru actually died of a heart attack from the emotion of the tie.
Yeah, but they're team so friggin stacked...
..and there’s a decent chance that Maradona isn’t screwing them up by next summer.
Messi, Aguero, Tevez, Milito, Palermo, Mascherano, Maxi Rodriguez, Coloccini, etc etc.
It’s just silly.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
has to be Spain
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
I want...
England!
I’m bold like that. Give me Côte d’Ivoire, too!
I fear no group of death.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 11:50 AM CST reply actions
Ivory Coast
Landon Donovan vs. Drogba!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
I love this music and presentation...
It’s like Deal or No Deal or some shit.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions
I can't explain how much I hate Mexico.
The only thing that comes close is my hatred for the Yankees, and I’m not sure which I hate more.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Why do you hate another country?
Political agenda?
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I hate their national team and national teams fans so much...
…that it spreads to the rest of the country. Never visited.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
USA gets England!
Nice!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
lol I figure we'll get smashed...
but it should be fun nonetheless right?
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
Yeah
I like what the espn guys were doing, the american was all happy and the guy from the UK was saying “im not sure id be so happy about that”
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
That was an...
Englishmen, though.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
That’s Steve McManaman- ex-Liverpool player.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
right
hence i said the guy from the uk. but he’s right, the us will probably get stomped.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
We were completely outclassed
in that friendly recently.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 5, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
That was more than 18 months ago at Wembley in London. In more recent months the USA has been very impressive against some of the best teams in the world in Africa this past summer and in winning their WC qualifying group.
But
subsequently lost two of our best players. Also, during that series of friendlies when England handled us, we played quite well against Spain. May just be a matchup thing.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 6, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
You may be right about the matchup issue, although it will help our guys that several of them play in the EPL and know many of the tendencies of the English players. Here’s hoping that we can get at least one of either Gooch or Davies back on the team before June.
Yeah that would be nice
I really wish they had Davies’ speed.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
We have a chance...
It’s not entirely unfavorable.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
On entertainment value alone, it should be a fun matchup!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
England should/would/will be favored...
…but outside of South Africa and maybe an early Italy matchup, what else would you hope for? They’re all pretty good.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
I can't believe North Korea has a team
I can’t believe there is enough food in North Korea to feed their team. I hope Brazil beats them 10-nil.
Go Rice Owls!
Algeria
I’ll take that.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
The US...
have a chance, now if they can avoid France or Portugal.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions
I'm pretty sure
Algeria lost way back in qualifying to a team that sucked. It cost me on ESPN Streak for the Cash
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 4, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions
Group H
Spain, Honduras, Chile- all Spanish-speaking teams!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
eh...
let me have my spanish-speaking stereotypes damn it!
"you stupid motherfucker?!?!!?" - Josey Wales
God I hope France get drawn into group G
by LiamP on Dec 4, 2009 12:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not bad
England, Algeria, Slovenia- pretty decent group for the US.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Yeah...
they should qualify for the last 16 in that group and there’s the excitement of the England match, too.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yup.
If that had been with South Africa instead of Englad, they would have almost been assured of making it. This pretty close to a best case scenario though.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
North Korea
Brazil, Portugal, and the Ivory Coast- ouch!
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Group D is brutal too.
Happy with the draw for England. Shouldn’t be too difficult at all to advance.
by LiamP on Dec 4, 2009 12:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Group D
Germany should advance, but yeah, that’s a very evenly matched group.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Yeah
Some big stars are going out in the group stage one way or another, all those Brazilians, Drogba/etc, or C Ronaldo & co.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 4, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions
Considering the rest of the draw...
I wouldn’t even switch with Mexico to get in Group A.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 4, 2009 12:32 PM CST reply actions
I like USA's chances in Group C.
Gotta remember, this is a team (with a few changes) that beat Spain a little over a year ago.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Didn't the US get upset by
Serbia in the last WC? They do seem to have an easy group but they need to avoid being upset by Slovenia and Algeria. It would help if they could at least tie England.
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that definitely would help
i think whoever wins the England/US match should definitely move on to the 2nd round. The US can do it, but I have my doubts.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
The US victory over Spain was a BIG moment
and more recent history than losing to Ghana in the 2006.
Actually, if you want to look at history and go back far enough, the only time the US and England met in a WC match, the US upset England 1-0 in 1950.
So they have that going for them…. which is nice.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
come on
even englishmen will admit that of all the teams in Pot 2, the US was the one that might pose them the most trouble. I wouldnt say that there is any fear of the US. But there should, at the very least, be a healthy level of respect. We will match up very well with England. Id expect a one goal game.
Should be entertaining at the very least.
I'm not arguing that the US wasn't one of the better teams in pot 2
But to call it an even match-up? Please.
by LiamP on Dec 4, 2009 1:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Even...
the only real way I see this as even is the fact that England is one of the more physical teams but not overly like Italy or Germany. Bob Bradley has been trying to get this squad to play more physical… with a healthy balance with Charlie Davies (if fully recovered) up top and Landon feeding him the ball and Altidore coming off the bench, that should be able to negate the physicality.
"if daniels was fired today, he would almost be sure to get another shot somewhere else as a GM
i dont know if you can say the same thing abotu RW" - knockoutking
Are you high right now?
England can very easily make the claim to having the best midfield in the world: Gerrard, Lampard, Ashley Young, Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Wright-Phillips, Aaron Lennon, etc etc etc. Their defense compares to anyone else in the world with Terry, Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, and whoever among the decent options they have for the 4th spot. Their forwards had been kind of crappy, but the development of Rooney in the past couple of years to pair with a couple of nice, if inconsistent, players in Defoe, Heskey, Agbonlahor, and maybe C. Cole.
Really their only weakness is their goalie situation. As much as I like what Bradley does, I like Capello more than him. This isn’t an impossible game like Spain or Brazil seemed in last year’s Confed Cup, but don’t be such a homer that you can’t appreciate how much of an upset a win over England would be.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Are there a lot of people
keeping up with international soccer in the ghetto?
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
All the ones not in the US.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
very true
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
I'm going to South Africa...
June 20th-July 4th…Unfortunately I’ll miss the England game, but I am hoping they at least get out of their group and play Germany or Ghana/Australia
"Support the Dutch Oven"
My wife and I are contemplating it.
She’s leaning no, I’m pushing for it. We’re mainly concerned about the crime. =/
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
I was messing around with Google Earth and looked at the cool sand dune formations on the west coast of the continent in Nambia
What a bad-ass journey that would be. South Africa for the World Cup, and then go Jeeping through the wildnerness for a day or so to the sand dunes. And then Jeep back.
Get eaten by tigers… fun stuff
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
For those kicking the tires on going to the World Cup
- how much does that flight cost
- how long is it
- are tickets available for purchase yet?
- if so, how much?
- have you made hotel accomodations?
- if so, how much?
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
"Are tickets available for purchase yet" Ha.
If you wanted tickets, you would have had to enter a drawing 6+ months ago.
I have two friends going (Americans) and they didn’t even get tix to watch the U.S.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
Luckily...
I’m going with my girlfriend and her family.
We went through a travel company that had some pull with the lottery. We are guaranteed tickets to the Algeria game and one random quarter final game (hopefully US). We are staying at hotels in Johannesburg the first night, then traveling to Pretoria for the US game.
We are going to travel for a bit after that then go on a 5 day safari at Pondoro Game Lounge. Then we go to Cape Town for a Quarter final match and some shark cage diving.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
I always thought that Pretoria sounded like some fictional European principality from some really bad romance novel.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Here's what I know:
1. As always, the flight prices vary. Depending on how flexible you are, probably somewhere in the $1200-$1800 range. At least, that’s where it was the last I checked.
2. It’s hard to fly their direct. My father-in-law does business there and he said at one point there was an Atlanta to Jo’burg direct flight with Delta I think. Most flights go through London or Paris (or possibly Madrid or Rome I think) now. So expect 1-2 days of travel each way.
3/4. Tickets had been available for purchase, but I think you had to buy tickets to all three group stage matches. I think. This was a while ago. It may be different now. The tickets were in the $275-350/game ballpark if I remember correctly. The one thing is, they are reserving large numbers of tickets for SA natives and those tickets are going to be cheap (~$20), thought not great seats. I’m wondering if there’s some way to work out an agreement.
5/6. We haven’t looked a lot yet. I know that price gouging has gotten so bad that the SA Travel administration or some such is trying to control it (or that’s the reports that have come out recently). From what I understand, Jo’Burg prices have gotten pretty high. If my wife and I went, we would probably only stay in Jo’Burg for a little bit before heading out to Cape Town.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
How long would you guys stay out there, and what is your estimated cost for travel (food, lodging, tickets)
Do you even have tickets?
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
We are staying two weeks...
I am not sure on the actual cost, but we are doing a safari, 2 games, lodging, golf, shark diving, and some other traveling (possibly victoria falls) in between. Our trip is going to be expensive, but you could probably do it for $2,000-$3,000 per person for a week.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
oh, that's all?
I can afford that, no problem. I’m a big music star, y’know…
/so poor
//so very very poor
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Weeellll...
Not exactly on the tickets. Since my father-in-law does business there, he has connections that I assume we could use for tickets. If we can’t, that obviously kills it. I know we’re figuring ~$3000 for plane tickets, nothing too crazy for food, but anything from $150-$300 for a hotel. I haven’t gotten that far into investigating yet. We might have a place to stay in Jo’Burg, so that would help.
I really want to go to Cape Town and wine country. That would leave me with Australia/NZ and France as far as major wine regions left.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
South Africa
Never been there, but I have had some of their wine, and it’s very good.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
Plane flights
Try $2,500. That’s the cheapest I or any of my friends have found. It sucks. But, once you get there things should be relatively cheap.
Still, if you can afford it, definitely go. I was in Germany in 2006 and it was two of the best weeks of my life (despite the US’s poor showing).
Not mediocre. Right about average
I don't suppose you can find WC tickets on Stub Hub
by oc on Dec 4, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Hey...
but with my severance check I could see TWO GAMES maybe!!
:`(
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 5, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
Bring on the Brits
Next Brit I see, Im going to shit on his chest! RIDE ON PAUL REVERE!
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by FormerLSBUser on Dec 4, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions
we better get some quality tshirts like this for that game
I wanna see some classic 1776 hatred for the Brits.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
I'm on top of the world
A great draw from the perspective of our chances to advance, and England/US will be an epic match. Brazil and Spain are on the other side of the bracket, too. Let’s just hope Onyewu gets match fit by next summer and there are no more significant injuries. But really, there’s no excuse for the US not to make it to the group of 16, at least.
Not mediocre. Right about average
Hmm
1. England completely outclassed us in the last friendly we played, and we will probably be without the one CB with the physical ability to match up.
2. Don’t underestimate Slovenia, at least compared with the US.
It’s a hell of a lot better than Italy, the Czechs and Ghana, though. It’s such a shame that Onyewu and Davies went down. We don’t have the depth to make up for two guys with their athleticism.
That's pretty close to what I thought initially...
But he sure is down on the Swiss.
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
by BAC on Dec 4, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Underestimates Greece and Slovakia IMO
I’m not sure how Australia pulls even an 18% chance to win in that group either.
The Australians are getting underrated.
My homerism has them sneaking into second by goal differential. Everything’s going to be on Schwarzer, but I think they lose to Germany, squeeze out a win and a draw against Serbia and Ghana. I don’t see Germany losing in their group.
I think the percentages are a little too even though.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
I’m not sure that Essian couldn’t go out with ten semipro guys and beat Australia.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 4, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
...well, that confused me a little. Could or couldn't?
But Australia’s pretty solid defensively, I haven’t seen them concede more than two for quite a while now. I don’t think they really have a serious threat up-front, but I’m hoping 1 or 2 goals a game is enough to get them the 4 points they need to hopefully qualify.
I’m still bitter about that damn Italy game, but that game pretty much defined the entire team philosophy. They didn’t do anything on the attack, even when they had a man advantage.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
meh
That’s a crazy overstatement. Australia is a solid squad with a great keeper. They are just getting old. They will wear down if they advance, but I could see them making it out of the group. That will be a tough match up for Ghana, though they should win it.
That said, Essien is a beast.
Not mediocre. Right about average
Didn’t mean it literally, but Essian is amazing.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 5, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Let's go shroomer
one of the few times I’ll be rooting for City
I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar
That bastard
Great first save by Given
I think Luke French has a lot of potential. TORP potential.-Dstar

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