LSB Community Prospect Project: Post-Season #4
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 6:25 PM CST
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PrintAfter garnering 86% of 112 votes, Justin Smoak has won the right to be called the LSB Community #3 prospect!
The List So Far:
#1. RHP Neftali Feliz
#2. LHP Martin Perez
#3. 1B Justin Smoak
Time to move on to the vote for #4.
The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.
And, as always, please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.
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Went with Scheppers based on promise.
This is where I could see things getting interesting, though. I considered Main for this one.
Why is Cooper on the list? Does he even qualify as a prospect at this point?
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
Also, where is Mitch Moreland?
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 6, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Fixed
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I believe it's some kind of a college football joke.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
It is but he is a Ranger too
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Really?
Must be a 2009 draftee I totally forgot about, yes?
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
25th round pick, got $250,000. He’s an OF’er.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Cool. Thx.
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
Scheps
The last easy one- next four or five will be good.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Yeah, Scheppers is running away with it. Should have seen that coming.
Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 6, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Next one should be good
You could put Font, Ross or Main at #5
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I think Gutierrez has to be in the discussion also
And in my personal opinion Kiker has to be if Ross is.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I just don't see Kiker as a starter
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
See thats where we differ
I don’t think he has TORP potential but I do think he could hang on as a solid BORP if allowed. But I feel he will end up in the pen because thats where he will have more value to us.
The guy was leading or did end up leading the Texas League in Ks all while being one of its youngest pitchers so he has stuff to get guys out. Sure he is erratic at times and his late season slump marred his overall numbers but I am a huge fan. And until Ross does something in a full season league its a knock on him IMO especially since its been almost 18 months since we drafted him
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He needs a consistent breaking ball.
He needs to stop hitting and walking so many guys.
He needs to get a better plane on his fastball.
If these things don’t happen, he will not be a starter at the Major League level.
This
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
In most cases.....no
But for us in this instance I think so. We have several guys who seem could be solid BORP but who don’t seem like they could be as good a reliever as Kiker seems like he could be.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yes
Now if that RP was a dominant set-up man, you have a different comparison and I believe the RP becomes more valuable.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Kiker doesn't have the command/stuff combo Ross does
I don’t really think I’m comfortable ranking either all the way up at #5 though, as I’d like to see more of a sample size on Ross. Although I’d think about putting Main #5, and he hasn’t really shown that much more than Ross has…
I failed my LSB ethics test.
"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS
by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
I don't like his arm action
you can see why he’s had injury problems.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Finnerty hates you for saying that
But I agree with you, something to be said for an 8.6 K/9 for a 21 year old lefty swimming through AA all year
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
After garnering 100% of the vote...
Tanner Scheppers has won the right to be called the LSB Community #4 prospect.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
strong top 4
I am wondering if all four of these guys get five stars from Goldstein. My guess is yes.
Nah
wouldn’t be shocked if only Feliz did, but Smoak or Perez conceivably could. Definitely not Scheppers though.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 6, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Pretty sure Feliz/Smoak/Perez will all be 5 star guys.
He’s not stingy enough with 5 star ratings that any of those guys will miss out. Dudes like Jacob Turner and Casey Crosby have received 5 star ratings so far, and I don’t think Goldstein will make the case that either of these guys are better than any of the Rangers trio.
Scheppers…I think Goldstein gives him 4 stars because of the shoulder.
I can't remember how many he tends to give out
I was thinking 20-25, and I think that at least one of Perez and Smoak makes that, but I"m not sure that both do, if that’s the right range.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 6, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
I think Smoak makes it
I’m not sure Perez does. When I’ve asked about him in the past, he seemed to give the impression that he wasn’t the biggest fan.
Smoak and Feliz were both 5 stars last season
I don’t see why Smoak looks any less impressive right now than he did last season unless Goldstein is going to let some AAA ABs knock him down that much. Perez and Scheppers both have a pretty strong case for being 5 star prospects, but I could see Goldstein being skeptical enough on both of them to keep them at 4 stars.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Well
several posters here seem to have knocked him down that much as a result of AAA. I tend to agree that Goldstein won’t, but I’m not certain. He does seem to be liberally handing out five stars though. Sano/Jean and Aaron Hicks both got five today.
by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
I think Goldstein is a little more level headed than that
I’m also trying to remember what he had to say about Scheppers. I remember when people asked about Scheppers and his injury that he would let Will Carroll handle the question, but I would think that he would be pretty impressed by Scheppers too.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Alright...
who’s the fucker who voted for Ross and took the 100% away from Scheppers.
I demand you identify yourself.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Scheppers for the 3rd time.
Remember a few years ago when everyone claimed one prospect or another as “theirs” (dirkatron, wherever he may be, claimed Lemon, of course). Well, I never claimed one then, but Scheppers is mine now. Y’all can’t have him, your Smoak votes will haunt you forever (though obviously I hope not too much)
Go Rice Owls!
I got Vinny DiFazio...
solely based on his name.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
I claimed Main after his AZL debut. He's still my guy.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
I was on Bianucci pretty early
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I call Juri-Pro
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
by Keynes on Dec 7, 2009 12:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good idea to get on him now
Sounds like there may be some competition pretty soon
by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
Hate to tell you guys this...
but Main and Scheppers were mine before they were drafted. You can ask Jason Cole. I’m pretty pumped that they’re both in the Rangers system.
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 7, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Besides
You voted for Martin Perez and Justin Smoak both above Scheppers. You obviously don’t stand behind the man as much as I do.
Go Rice Owls!
I'm simply being realistic.
It wasn’t two years ago, by the way, and I’m still sure I had him pegged before you knew his name :-)
by NoNameOnCard on Dec 7, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
went Main here...
but its a toss up between he and Tanner. The plus-plus athleticism is the tie-breaker for me.
the fun is about to really begin
with the next poll.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
speaking of which
where is it?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I have to leave now...
i’ll get it up around 7
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
That's not until around 7
/Kinslerhomer
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.
It's not Boscon
It’s Boscan
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 PM CST reply actions
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