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LSB Community Prospect Project: Post-Season #4

After garnering 86% of 112 votes, Justin Smoak has won the right to be called the LSB Community #3 prospect!

The List So Far:

#1. RHP Neftali Feliz

#2. LHP Martin Perez

#3. 1B Justin Smoak

Time to move on to the vote for #4. 

The polls are open, so go ahead and vote in the poll at the bottom and feel free to make any suggestions and/or criticisms in the comments below.

And, as always, please don't hesitate to tell me you want on the list for next time.     

Poll
Who is currently the #4 prospect in the Rangers' system?
Omar Poveda
0 votes
Pedro Strop
0 votes
Robbie Ross
4 votes
Guillermo Moscoso
0 votes
Kennil Gomez
0 votes
Danny Gutierrez
2 votes
Tomar Telis
0 votes
Tanner Scheppers
173 votes
Riley Cooper
2 votes
Wilfredo Boscon
1 votes
Wilmer Font
3 votes
Max Ramirez
1 votes
Michael Main
4 votes
Blake Beavan
0 votes
Joe Wieland
0 votes
Jurickson Profar
2 votes
Miguel Velazquez
0 votes
Engel Beltre
0 votes
Kasey Kiker
0 votes
Mitch Moreland
3 votes

195 votes | Poll has closed

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Went with Scheppers based on promise.

This is where I could see things getting interesting, though. I considered Main for this one.

Why is Cooper on the list? Does he even qualify as a prospect at this point?

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 6, 2009 6:28 PM CST reply actions  

Also, where is Mitch Moreland?

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 6, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Fixed

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe it's some kind of a college football joke.

Riley Cooper

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

It is but he is a Ranger too

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Must be a 2009 draftee I totally forgot about, yes?

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

25th round pick, got $250,000. He’s an OF’er.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool. Thx.

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Scheps

The last easy one- next four or five will be good.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Dec 6, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, Scheppers is running away with it. Should have seen that coming.

Gracchus (about Obama): I think he knows what America is. America is the mob. Conjure money for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of America is not the paper of the Constitution, it's the power of the media. He'll bring them debt - and they will love him for it.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Dec 6, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Next one should be good

You could put Font, Ross or Main at #5

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Gutierrez has to be in the discussion also

And in my personal opinion Kiker has to be if Ross is.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 6, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I just don't see Kiker as a starter

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

See thats where we differ

I don’t think he has TORP potential but I do think he could hang on as a solid BORP if allowed. But I feel he will end up in the pen because thats where he will have more value to us.

The guy was leading or did end up leading the Texas League in Ks all while being one of its youngest pitchers so he has stuff to get guys out. Sure he is erratic at times and his late season slump marred his overall numbers but I am a huge fan. And until Ross does something in a full season league its a knock on him IMO especially since its been almost 18 months since we drafted him

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 6, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

He needs a consistent breaking ball.

He needs to stop hitting and walking so many guys.
He needs to get a better plane on his fastball.

If these things don’t happen, he will not be a starter at the Major League level.

by NoNameOnCard on Dec 6, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

This

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

In most cases.....no

But for us in this instance I think so. We have several guys who seem could be solid BORP but who don’t seem like they could be as good a reliever as Kiker seems like he could be.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 6, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Now if that RP was a dominant set-up man, you have a different comparison and I believe the RP becomes more valuable.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Kiker doesn't have the command/stuff combo Ross does

I don’t really think I’m comfortable ranking either all the way up at #5 though, as I’d like to see more of a sample size on Ross. Although I’d think about putting Main #5, and he hasn’t really shown that much more than Ross has…

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

by LSJ on Dec 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't like his arm action

you can see why he’s had injury problems.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 6, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Finnerty hates you for saying that

But I agree with you, something to be said for an 8.6 K/9 for a 21 year old lefty swimming through AA all year

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Dec 6, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

After garnering 100% of the vote...

Tanner Scheppers has won the right to be called the LSB Community #4 prospect.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 6, 2009 7:16 PM CST reply actions  

strong top 4

I am wondering if all four of these guys get five stars from Goldstein. My guess is yes.

by Dalman on Dec 6, 2009 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

Scheppers won't

You know… the shoulder thing.

|Space for Rent|

by RangerMad on Dec 6, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah

wouldn’t be shocked if only Feliz did, but Smoak or Perez conceivably could. Definitely not Scheppers though.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 6, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Feliz/Smoak/Perez will all be 5 star guys.

He’s not stingy enough with 5 star ratings that any of those guys will miss out. Dudes like Jacob Turner and Casey Crosby have received 5 star ratings so far, and I don’t think Goldstein will make the case that either of these guys are better than any of the Rangers trio.

Scheppers…I think Goldstein gives him 4 stars because of the shoulder.

by LiamP on Dec 6, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't remember how many he tends to give out

I was thinking 20-25, and I think that at least one of Perez and Smoak makes that, but I"m not sure that both do, if that’s the right range.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 6, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Smoak makes it

I’m not sure Perez does. When I’ve asked about him in the past, he seemed to give the impression that he wasn’t the biggest fan.

by Conjunction on Dec 6, 2009 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Smoak and Feliz were both 5 stars last season

I don’t see why Smoak looks any less impressive right now than he did last season unless Goldstein is going to let some AAA ABs knock him down that much. Perez and Scheppers both have a pretty strong case for being 5 star prospects, but I could see Goldstein being skeptical enough on both of them to keep them at 4 stars.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

several posters here seem to have knocked him down that much as a result of AAA. I tend to agree that Goldstein won’t, but I’m not certain. He does seem to be liberally handing out five stars though. Sano/Jean and Aaron Hicks both got five today.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Goldstein is a little more level headed than that

I’m also trying to remember what he had to say about Scheppers. I remember when people asked about Scheppers and his injury that he would let Will Carroll handle the question, but I would think that he would be pretty impressed by Scheppers too.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Dec 7, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Scheppers for the 3rd time.

Remember a few years ago when everyone claimed one prospect or another as “theirs” (dirkatron, wherever he may be, claimed Lemon, of course). Well, I never claimed one then, but Scheppers is mine now. Y’all can’t have him, your Smoak votes will haunt you forever (though obviously I hope not too much)

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Dec 7, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

I got Vinny DiFazio...

solely based on his name.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis

by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I claimed Main after his AZL debut. He's still my guy.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I was on Bianucci pretty early

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I call Juri-Pro

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Dec 7, 2009 12:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Good idea to get on him now

Sounds like there may be some competition pretty soon

by Brett Perryman on Dec 7, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate to tell you guys this...

but Main and Scheppers were mine before they were drafted. You can ask Jason Cole. I’m pretty pumped that they’re both in the Rangers system.

by NoNameOnCard on Dec 7, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I had Scheppers before he was drafted

by the Pirates two years ago. So there.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Dec 7, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Besides

You voted for Martin Perez and Justin Smoak both above Scheppers. You obviously don’t stand behind the man as much as I do.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Dec 7, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm simply being realistic.

It wasn’t two years ago, by the way, and I’m still sure I had him pegged before you knew his name :-)

by NoNameOnCard on Dec 7, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

went Main here...

but its a toss up between he and Tanner. The plus-plus athleticism is the tie-breaker for me.

by ramjam36 on Dec 7, 2009 10:11 AM CST reply actions  

the fun is about to really begin

with the next poll.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Dec 7, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

speaking of which

where is it?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Dec 7, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to leave now...

i’ll get it up around 7

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

too much information...

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Dec 7, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not until around 7

/Kinslerhomer

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"When you have a weapon on your shoulder like he has, you can be cool." RW on Perez
And the little bastard threw it for a swinging strike three in a 3-2 count. He’s blessed. And ballsy.

by Rodney on Dec 7, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not Boscon

It’s Boscan

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

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