Monday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 7, 2009 10:00 AM CST
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PrintThe Winter Meetings start today, and although the Rangers have needs to fill, it sounds like they'll be on the sidelines for the time being, since they have no money to spend.
T.R. Sullivan writes that the Rangers are talking to the Marlins about Matt Lindstrom. Lindstrom throws hard, but didn't have a real good season last year, and is available because he's arbitration-eligible. Sullivan also mentions that there continues to be discussions about Milton Bradley with the Rangers, but the Rangers aren't going to make that deal if they have to take on money.
MLB Daily Dish talks about the possibility of Bradley going to the Dodgers for Juan Pierre, with Bradley then going to Texas for Kevin Millwood. That seems unlikely.
Former Ranger manager Whitey Herzog has been voted into the Hall of Fame by the Veteran's Committee.
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If the Cubs
would rather have Pierre than Millwood, then they are doomed to their type of painful losing for the next century as well.
So if Whitey Herzog is in the HOF, that gives the Rangers how many HOFers? Perry, Jenkins, Ryan, the Goose, Ted Williams, and Herzog?
Go Rice Owls!
I thought the Cubs were on the verge
of signing Cameron. Wouldn’t that mean they won’t have interest in Pierre?
the Bradley trade talk is just ridiculous.
We don’t have the money to take him on, and the Cubs are not going to pay all but $4-5M of his contract for each of the next two years just to trade him…and then be willing to not take on any meaningful talent in return, which is what they would have to do. Otherwise, we will just sign one of the many DH options on the market to a one year deal and avoid the whole headache.
Also, I’m sorry to keep throwing out Millwood trade scenarios, but there is no reason for this team to go into next season with Millwood’s $12M price tag if another team is willing to give up anything of value for him. We saw last offseason that $12M can go pretty far come January and February. I admit that I let a personal bias come into play, but I have very little faith in Millwood next year. He is notorious for putting up good numbers every three or four years. He worked his ass off last year to earn another $12M payday, but I just don’t think he’s got it in him to pull that off again.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Seconded
If this team is going to have little to no payroll flexibility I’d like to see them move Millwood. He was a horse early this year, but I don’t think there’s any way he’ll be worth the $12 million price tag in 2010. Obviously it depends on the return, but with a limited payroll you have to have performance match the price tag. I’m confident enough in the rest of our arms, and the extra $ could be used on either a high-ceiling/high-risk starter, a bullpen arm or middle of the order bat.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
if we can shed Millwood's salary
the money could be used on a high-ceiling/high-risk starter, a bullpen arm and middle of the order bat.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Yeah
Depending on the quality of each of the players, I think 1 or 2 of those is possible with $12 mill freed up
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
of those needs
the only one that could be difficult to bring in cost effectively is Sheets, but I still consider the Rangers the frontrunner on him (if they have the money) because of the work they did to build that relationship last year. Perhaps I’m naive, but I think a base contract of $4 with perhaps $3-4M in available incentives seems reasonable.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I guess
I’m allocating a bit more than $4 mil for one of the true impact bats.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
As you should be.
But at this point, two good players is better than one.
"Nothing we do here has a point" - Czar Morris
by inactive lsb user on Dec 7, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
This is the issue
If Millwood is traded one of two things will happen: A) the Rangers use the money for a completely uninspiring move, like signing Dye, or B) they just don’t use the money at all, preferring to keep payroll room for moves later on, or even during the season.
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I imagine
MLB is low balling the Rangers when it comes to contract offers for premiere free agents. Even if Texas has genuine interest, the free agent would scoff at the offer.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
I doubt it even gets that far.
The Rangers have likely been told there is either no money, or a very limited amount available, and so they don’t even make an offer, just express interest in case purse strings loosen with a new owner.
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Millwood
I think Millwood does have value, even at $12 million for next season. That said, if moving meant that $12 million could be spent elsewhere, then I think you have to look hard a moving him.
Say, for example, you dealt him to Baltimore for a couple minor league guys (not great prospects, maybe even guys who aren’t Rule 5 eligible until 2011). Then, you took the money and signed Ben Sheets and Troy Glaus.
Glaus is your everyday DH and backup 3B, and the rotation is Sheets, Feldman, Feliz, Hollard and Hunter, with McCarthy and Harrison in the bullpen.
I think Millwood for Sheets, Glaus and a couple average prospects is a pretty good deal. That said, I doubt you could pull that off for a couple of reasons.
by Darrell McKown on Dec 7, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Has Sheets even begun to throw?
Haven’t seen anything…maybe he’s throwing on flat ground, anyone?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
We could give him Jason Jenning's old number
that way, if he can’t even wipe his own ass, nobody will be disappointed.
I'm ambivalent towards Millwood.
What he really needed sometime in mid-August was to be skipped a turn in the rotation. When that finally happened in September he came back and pitched effectively.
If you trade him, you need to replace the 180+ IPs he had while also trying to replace the 130 IPs that Padilla & Benson gave the team.
Did Nolan Ryan accompany Thad & JD to Indy?
OT – When is the next freaking podcast?
I’d like to hear a feisty AJM & (who knows what his mood is right now?) Jamey opine on what’s happening with our current ownership.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Benson really??? lol
Should get a podcast when something happens that’s worth talking about
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Those (Benson's 22) are IPs that need to be replaced although
I thought he had more than two starts.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
It's going to be really hard to replace that 8.46 ERA isn't it?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Do you understand the concept of replacement level performance?
What Benson did as a starter was well below replacement level. That means that just about any scrub the Rangers give those innings to will likely produce better results than Benson.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
They're not going to pull somebody out
of the stands to do it, dumbass.
Those IPs will be doled out to whoever makes the rotation but they still need to be replaced.
I’m much more concerned about who is going to take Padilla’s IPs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Padilla
had a 4.84 FIP and a 5.72 tRA while here last year, I’m not so sure they can’t get better just going with youngsters already here.
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Padilla was somebody you could count to have a Game Score
of 50+ in 45-50% of his starts.
I don’t know which youngster can be counted on to give us 16 starts with Game Scores of 50+ next year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Well, Tommy Hunter did a 50+ in 11 of 19 starts last year
That’s 57.8 percent, which is better than “45-50%” you counted on from Padilla. Maybe that’s a youngster who can be counted on to give us 16 starts with game scores of 50 or better.
I like Tommy Hunter
and he’s a good candidate to help fill those innings but he needs to go take the bump 30 times in The Show and pitch effectively before I begin to count on him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I'm expecting that from him next season
He got pounded in 2008, came back better in 2009, so I think 2010 should go well.
Benson should hardly be mentioned as someone the Rangers need to replace...
I understand that Millwood is not a #1 but Millwood was solid last season and would be a big loss to the rotation…I don’t like the prospect of them entering the season without a longtime veteran in the rotation. Who would be the most experienced starter if they trade Millwood? McCarthy? Feldman?
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
B-Mac
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly...I love the youth in the rotation but having McCarthy as the most
experienced starter concerns me.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Ideally
I could see us going into 2010 with a rotation anchored by Feldman and Hunter (two guys I think can continue to eat up innings as effectively as Millwood and Padilla did at their finest) and hopefully also including Holland, Feliz, and Sheets. If one of those guys falters or proves not ready, we’d still have McCarthy and Harrison in the mix as well.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Hunter is going to regress alot when his BABIP goes back to normal.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
there is Sonnanstine risk here
there is also Feldman type upside. The kid is still young and has good stuff, and we don’t need him to be an ace. If we have the rotation I listed above, he’s almost certainly a 4 or 5 starter. 6 innings and 3-4 runs is all we need out of him.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Millwood
I don’t see how this organization can trade away Millwood if you are replacing him with Harden no matter how much better Harden is. Same for Sheets. For one thing Millwood is coming off a year where to most fans his numbers were really good. Saber guys will tell you how his peripherials were bad and things like FIP and tRA were high and such but average fans don’t care about that crap. They are gonna see this as trading away a guy who gives you 30 starts a year and 180-200 innings for a guy who will only give you 20 starts and be lucky to get to 150 innings. And they are cheaper which isn’t going to help sell fans on the fact we are trying to win.
Not to mention if this rotation goes into July or August and Harden or Sheets goes down like normal we would be stuck with Feldman and BMac as the most veteran guys in the rotation. Not exactly a recipe for a playoff push.
I don’t think anyone here will argue that Millwood is better than Sheets or Harden. But I do think there is an argument to be made that he has more value to this club than either of those guys for next season alone.
Now let the dogpile begin
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I'm with you
I am tired of hearing “I’d rather have Harden for five innings than Millwood for seven per start”. Millwood did more for the bullpen than people realize. You replace him with Harden and the bullpen is burned out by July.
Which, of course, will be blamed on Wash.
"we’re a bunch of knee-jerking yahoos who like new and shiny things." -- FirebatM3 July 10, 2009
x
wasn’t it in Aug and Sept when Millwood couldn’t get anyone out and couldn’t go 5 innings? Didn’t he have to miss some starts late that might have been the turn that let us be the wild card? I am not particularly impressed with Millwood’s ability to get into shape and keep in shape. But it might just be his age. 12 million is a lot of bread for someone like that.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Wasn't Millwood injured for a few weeks?
I recall something about a pulled gluteous muscle. Despite that, he still led the team in IP and had the 7th best ERA in the league. That sort of says that he probably was valuable to the team in 2009.
Who cares about what the fans think?
If the move works out and especially if Millwood regresses, then its all a moot point. And you know what isn’t a strong recipe for a playoff push? Having your ace give you a 5+ ERA.
The fewer the innings or the ABs, the better you have to be. That’s all that matters with guys like Harden and Sheets. It is worth it in the end if you can get these kinds of TORP at a discount price just because you understand the risk and take your chances that they’ll be that good in their 15-20 starts. If you get Harden and he does what he can do in 12-15 or so starts, you’re looking at a pitcher that is worth 2+ wins. Get a replacement level player there and there isn’t much of a drop off between that combination and Millwood. But if you can get 20-25 starts from a guy like Harden and more importantly, get that caliber of pitcher going for you in the playoffs, then you’re looking at a 4-4.5 win player which is something Millwood would never do here.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
If I was going to acquire Harden, I want him in addition to Millwood
not instead of. Replacing the guy at the top of the rotation with another guy that is likely to pitch fewer games seems more like kissing your sister to me. On the other hand, if you acquire Harden and he replaces 15 starts that would have been made by Harrison, Nippert, etc, I think you have favorably influenced the W-L record.
Who cares about what the fans think?
If the move works out and especially if Millwood regresses, then its all a moot point. And you know what isn’t a strong recipe for a playoff push? Having your ace give you a 5+ ERA.
The fewer the innings or the ABs, the better you have to be. That’s all that matters with guys like Harden and Sheets. It is worth it in the end if you can get these kinds of TORP at a discount price just because you understand the risk and take your chances that they’ll be that good in their 15-20 starts. If you get Harden and he does what he can do in 12-15 or so starts, you’re looking at a pitcher that is worth 2+ wins. Get a replacement level player there and there isn’t much of a drop off between that combination and Millwood. But if you can get 20-25 starts from a guy like Harden and more importantly, get that caliber of pitcher going for you in the playoffs, then you’re looking at a 4-4.5 win player which is something Millwood would never do here.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Lindstrom
as long as I’m opining, I have to say I have very little interest in giving up anything of value for this guy. He looks like an obvious non-tender to me. His numbers have gotten progressively worse each year and last year he was just plain hittable to go with a high walk rate, leading to a 1.65 WHIP (I hear Kam Loe’s available, too!).
I hope TX sees him as a decent bounce back/buy low candidate and nothing more. I wouldn’t give up a top 15 prospect from an average farm system for him, which means I wouldn’t give up a top 25 prospect from our farm.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
KLAW
Buster Olney has written that a Matt Lindstrom trade is “imminent.” Lindstrom throws really hard, and he — throws … really hard. He doesn’t miss many bats and suffered strains to both his right elbow and rotator cuff in 2009. And he’s eligible for arbitration. Sign me up!
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Dec 7, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Are you fucking kidding me!?!?!?
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WTMF?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
And now it's back...
Whoever runs twitter is really dumb
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
XM Radio Baseball Channel
saying that Seattle is planning to be very aggressive at the Winter Meetings and very willing to spend money.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
haha
Johjima opting out really helped Seattle.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
I just saw the Twitter guy on CNBC this morning
He has a new gadget that let iPhones act as credit-card charging machine, complete with cute little card sliders that you plug into the phone. It’s kind of neat
Anyway, do we have a new owner yet?
I'm not sure I'll ever hand my card over to another person ever again.
That is just too easy for someone to use to steal identities.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Yeah
I use it way too much…
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Haven't the last couple of winter meetings been dull?
Kind of like the last trade deadline was?
Brad Penny
I have a feeling this won’t be popular, and I know people think he’s just allergic to the AL, but there’s is a part of me that thinks, pitching in front of our defense, he could be just as effective as Millwood at less than half the cost…
Penny strikes me as this year’s pitching version of Abreu. Execs at this point probably think his careers stats are a product of pitching in extremely pitcher friendly environments (some truth to that), but last year he was pitching in front of a pretty bad defense in the best hitting division in baseball last year. I think he’s still there in January after the Hardens, Sheets and Bedards have found homes and could end up signing for around $5M and get 180-200 innings with an ERA around 4.20.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Please note
I possibly overrate the impact our defense had on our pitching staff last year, but I think our infield defense can make a pitcher like Penny good even in the AL. For what it’s worth, Penny’s FIP last year was better than Millwood’s.
But then I have no idea what FIP means. I don’t put much stock in these newfangled stats…
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
FIP
Fielding-independent pitching, i.e. a pitcher’s stats adjusted to show the performance with an average defense. So in the Penny/Millwood case, it would indicate that Penny’s pitching performance was actually better than Millwood’s last year, but Millwood had the better actual numbers due to a far better defense behind him.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
I think FIP has use (so does DIPS)
but it’s just another ingredient to put in the blender of information in evaluating a pitcher.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Agreed
I don’t think it’s the end-all-be-all of pitching stats either, but it is useful.
"Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
RC
With a possible ownership change looming, you’re going to be witness to a much more optimistic Josey Wales.
If JD gets run, I’m gonna shop for red n’ blue pom poms.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
The apocalypse nears....
but I look forward to an overly positive JDubs.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, I thought you said if Hicks gets run..
nevermind.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Should have seen me in 2004, Ryin.
We had the young team that had just won 89 games, a good manager, a nice farm system, the # 5 media market in a relatively new ballpark with a ton of financial flexibility to get better and an owner who had not shied away from high payrolls in the past.
I was absolutely gooey with optimism about the future of This Thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
LMAO
good manager, a nice farm system
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
This Things farm is so much better that
of 2004 system.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
here comes a sentence that includes:
Donuts and bags of shit.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Buck won a heckuva lot of games after taking over an expansion
franchise in Arizona and a NYY team that was in complete rebuild mode. He’s a good manager and he did an excellent job in 2004.
The farm system at that time included AG, CYoung, Kinsler, CJ Wilson, Frank Frank, Danks, Eddy V among others.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Buck was one of the driving forces behind the Eaton trade.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Doesn't really matter what Buck thought
because it was JD’s call.
Stop absolving JD’s mistakes.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Buck was also
one of the big drivers of dumping Arod. He was a great tactician, but his my way or the highway attitude was very detrimental to the team. He lost “the room”.
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Tom Hicks was the architect of the ARod deal.
Try a little harder.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Blind idiot, you are.
And who do you think had Hicks’ ear? Read what I said. And you simply have no refutation for the other two sentences in my post. Buck was cancer in the clubhouse.
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Hicks pulled the trigger on the
ARod deal, dumbass. It had nothing to do with Buck.
ARod also had Hicks’ ear if you will recall. When Hicks said he was slashing player expenses, ARod said he wanted out and Hicks obliged.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I said nothing about
Hicks not playing a part, goat-licker. But to deny what I said about Buck is just you being obstinate, par for the course with you. No one came out of that looking good.
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And Tom Hicks (not Buck)
was very accommodating in this request.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I'm not absolving JD of his mistakes, I'm pointing out how sucky Buck's advice was during the Eaton situation.
If Buck could relate well to his players, he would’ve stuck around a lot longer. As it turned out, the players, those same players generated by the good farm system of 2004, didn’t want to play for Buck.
We had a good tactician. I don’t know if he was a good manager.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Well, I look forward to the day you are optimistic about our Rangers.
I do.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"The purpose of life is to have a fucking good time." - Albert Ellis
by Cecilio's Guante on Dec 7, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Hicks leaving is a big, big step in the right direction
and may warrant a brief honeymoon period for JD with me.
That honeymoon would be under intense scrutiny.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
Whoopty effin' do
I don’t think any of us here gives a shit wether you are optimistic or not. Like JD or not he did set up This Thing for a great run with everything he put into the farm system(drafts, LA signings, trades for prospects, etc.) so you can just take those pom poms and stick them up your crusty old man ass.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
Brad Penny has already turned down a 1 year contract to re-sign with the Giants
I don’t think he see’s himself as the same bargain that you seem to.
i read that
but do we know what the offer was? Also, a lot can change between now and late January.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
XM reporting
Halladay trade rumor to Angels (no names going other way mentioned).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
That is scary
Though unless they are touching significant MLB players I wouldn’t think they could put up the best offer from their minor leagues.
What do voluntary mean?
their farm
isn’t that deep these days, the last I checked.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
It's deep low
Because they have had about 50 comp picks the last few years but it’s not very good high up
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
In all honesty, the Rangers have fared pretty well against Halladay
I don’t want him in Anaheim because of what he does to other teams, but historically the Rangers have done well against him.
I'd love to see...
the Angels give up some of their young talent to get 1 year of Halladay.
Just have to hope he leaves after 2010 and doesn’t re-sign there.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
XM reporting
Red Sox signed relief pitcher Scott Atchison (played in Japan last year).
“Mark that under who gives a shit.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
One of the potential new Ranger owners doesn’t like Bradley.
While Texas remains the other big suitor, they also are not willing to acquire Bradley without the Cubs paying most of the freight. The Rangers are up for sale, and one of the potential bidders said Sunday he had “no interest” at all in acquiring Bradley if his group gets the club, even if the Cubs pay the entire amount of the contract.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
If it's Gilbert
then fuck him
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
It has to be, since that's a hands-on thing to say.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
yep
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Dec 7, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
OT
I’m cracking up at the sky is falling mentality for Cowboys fans this morning.
I’m not a fan of the team but I do have to evaluate them objectively for gambling purposes and I look at yesterday as mostly a big fluke (past Decembers not withstanding).
The NY Giants were very lucky yesterday. Give them credit for making the big plays but I don’t think you can count on some of the things that happened yesterday happening the rest of the year.
Romo wasn’t perfect but he was good which is huge because the Cowboys aren’t going to win unless Romo is good.
The running game sucked and the Special Teams play was abysmal. I’d be trying out kickers this afternoon and if I found a decent one I’d run Fulk outta town.
I’m very bullish on the Cowboys this weekend v SDO and still think they finish 11-5.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
I see the Packers and last Giants games as similar trends
Desperate teams in must win games at home and the Cowboys can’t match the intensity level. Good teams find ways to win at least one of those games. The Cowboys are a mediocre team that will squeak into the playoff if they are lucky (remember GB and NY have the tie breaker on them because of head to head record).
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Dec 7, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
The Cowboys on the road is rarely a smooth ride
but I thought Romo was much better v NY than he was against Green Bay.
The Cowboys played very desperate teams at their place who were trying to save their seasons in Green Bay & NY.
I expect a similar effort from Dallas this weekend.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Ranger players, especially veterans, weren’t surprised that Daniels couldn’t find a deal"
"Business as usual." - Tom Hicks on the Ranger off-season 11/19/09
meh
The Giants had some things go their way while the Cowboys didn’t. The Barber fumble and Jacobs TDs come to mind. Those things had nothing to do with “intensity” but poor timing and unfortunate tackling. The Cowboys are still tied for the division lead with the Eagles who they have a home game left against and will have a game against a Saints team that has already clinched and are due for a loss
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Also reported by a Chicago reporter.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Not just that
That kind of statement doesn’t jive with anything you hear about Greenberg, and Gilbert used to be a special advisor for the White Sox and, well, Chicago as a whole prbably doesn’t have the best opinion of MB right now.
by LiamP on Dec 7, 2009 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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