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Can Johnson, Harden AND Sheets Happen?

As I've been reading all around the internet this week, I keep seeing references by quite a few different reporters who's rumors, articles, tweets, etc have a common line included: "Rangers officials believe they can contend in 2010."

If that's the case and the Rangers believe they can put a division, pennant, or World Series contending team on the field this season, what better way to get out of financial problems than to get butts in the seats by running out a rotation featuring Johnson, Hardin, Sheets, Feldman, and Holland? 

Looking at the happenings that have gone on this week, I believe this rotation IS possible for this season. Hardin is already in the bag at $7.5 of the 8 or 9 we saved in the Millwood deal. We all know Sheets was supposed to be here last season and spent the whole year rehabbing with Rangers personnel in the Arlington area. The Rangers are/were hoping to sign him to an incentives laden contract and it's believed Sheets won't sign until later this winter.  Tom HIcks said he hopes to have the sell of the team done before the end of the year. If that were to happen, the Rangers may be in position to spend money a little later assuming Sheets is still on market. Finally, Johnson would cost the Rangers the most in prospects, but perhaps the least in dollars. We've seen the package they've rumored to have already offered (Smoak, Feliz) which was apparently turned down. That's TWO top ten prospects in ALL OF BASEBALL. The Marlins don't want to deal Johnson and from what I read, were looking for a package of "at least FIVE prospects." So, here's my deal for Johnson. Chris Davis, Matt Harrison, Eric Hurley, Blake Beavan, Jose Vallejo and Wilfredo Boscan. There's no top 10 prospects, but there's two major league ready starters, a potential replacement for Uggla, an elite lower level arm and a big power bat that could help replace Uggla's. 

Trading Hurley and Harrison will help alleviate the log jam at the #4 and #5 spot with Feldman, Holland, Hunter, McCarthy, Wilson, Feliz, and Nippert still sitting there looking for an opportunity and Perez and Kiker potentially knocking on the door.  This would also clear the way for a potential Lowell trade to man first while Smoak develops in the minors for the first half of the season.

If you assume the rotation is Johnson, Hardin, Sheets, Feldman, and Holland, that makes the bullpen include CJ, BMac, Nippert, Feliz, Ray, and Francisco with Hunter as the long man. 

 

Sure would be a nice rotation and a REALLY nice bullpen. 

Poll
Could the Rangers pull it off?
No. Won't be able to afford Sheets
13 votes
No. Florida won't listen to offer
56 votes
No. Johnson costs too much for Texas (prospects)
80 votes
Yes. That's why the Rangers have been linked to each scenario
16 votes

165 votes | Poll has closed

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Uhh Dude

Jose Vallejo got dealt to the Astros for Pudge.

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

by LSJ on Dec 9, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

That's what makes this trade so genius, Florida gets totally screwed because we don't even have Vallejo

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Dec 9, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Ha

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Dec 9, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

ha

my bad… i forgot about that

by texaschief on Dec 9, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

To scrap some serious discussion out of this

Does either Hurley or Harrison have any real value right now?

I’d have to think there’s none on either of them; unless someone falls in love with Harrison’s run in the AFL.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Dec 9, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions  

Harrison might fetch you a bullpen arm or a bench bat

Similar to B-Mac.

Agreed on Hurley though.

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"It's kind of a new stat that's in vogue" - Joe Buck on OPS

by LSJ on Dec 9, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Then throw different players in

create a package around Hunter, Smoak, Kiker, Beavan, and Boscan.

y’all can not like the original post all you want but the question is still valid. is there really a legitimate reason why the Rangers can’t do all three? If Ben Sheets is willing to sign a heavy incentives laden contract or is still on the market after the sale of the team, then the only remaining hurdle is to find a package of players the Marlins like. I’m just not interested in sending TWO top ten MLB prospects who are so close to contributing at the major league level. ESPECIALLY Feliz. But, with so few bats coming up in the system, I don’t think its a great idea to include Smoak and hope Davis irons things out.

Harden is here.
Sheets wanted to be here last year and probably still does.
Johnson is just going to take the right package.

I don’t see why the thread is so absurd.

by texaschief on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Because your proposal was a poo-poo platter of

A; Dude who strikes out at astronomical pace (but might hit enough HRs to make that kinda ok)
B; Dude who was seriously injured
C; Dude who was hella seriously injured
D; Decent pitching prospect
E; An Astro
F; Guy who might have hit a wall in Low-A

That’s why the thread is absurd.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Dec 10, 2009 7:03 AM CST up reply actions  

As a mostly unrelated aside to your comment

Chris Davis’s problem isn’t really the strikeouts so much as his utter lack of any skills to reach base and avoid making outs at an astronomical pace. The strikeouts are simply a part of that.

I failed my LSB ethics test.

"WHAT A SHITLOAD OF FUCK" - LL's "Poochie" on Rich Harden signing with Texas over Seattle

by LSJ on Dec 10, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point

Poor phrasing on my part. Still, if Chris Davis is the lynchpin to getting a somewhat cost controlled TORP I’ll… well.. I’ll feel smart from last winter when I was all like ‘We shouldn’t trade CD unless we get a TORP back’.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law

by Keynes on Dec 10, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

OK, I'll bite.....

Florida would not even pick up the phone for Feliz & Smoak? I’d guess they wouldn’t be interested in a bunch of low level prospects and/or questionable ML guys either. So, maybe we throw Martin Perez into the deal? That might get them to bite, but Johnson better turn out to be a young version of Halliday ’cause you just shot your system all to hell, and gave up maybe 3 of the Top 12-15 prospects in all of baseball.

I’d say no (too much for an NL guy anyway) but a rotation of Johnson, Harden, Feldman, etc looks pretty good. I’m guessing with the amount of interest Sheets is already getting, his price will be too high. But keep on hoping, ’cause Andy DuFresne says “Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things”/

by tklawless on Dec 10, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

The old BT would have a somewhat negative and critical reply to this diary

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Dec 9, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

Well what happened?

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Dec 9, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

in a good mood since we got Harden?

"Stats are like a woman in a fine little bikini. You can see a lot, but you can't see everything." -Dirk A. Tron

by coolaid on Dec 9, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I made like Keith Richards and snorted me some Harden, bitches!

Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...

Hi, Keith. Is this the year Edinson Volquez finally wins RoY?

by Brian Thomas on Dec 9, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I haven't been on LSB in weeks.

I come back to this? I guess I need to work on my OT: Music Post and get this nonsense off here pronto.

Lisa, if the Bible has taught us nothing else - and it hasn't - it's that girls should stick to girls' sports, such as hot-oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such-and-such.

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays, 10 PM - 1 AM, on FM 88.7 The Choice, or online @ ktcu.net!

by Maximilian on Dec 9, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

Hell

At this point I’d settle for OT: Types of Noodles.

Just don’t forget Udon and Pad Thai. kthxbai

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Dec 9, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I vote for OT: TCU football

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That'll just make me angry.

Thinking about the best season we’ve had in recent memory, and how we have to play Boise, when we both should be beating up the cartel, I’m just gonna shake with fury.

OT: Music will be a wonderful megapost with many recs thrown my way.

Lisa, if the Bible has taught us nothing else - and it hasn't - it's that girls should stick to girls' sports, such as hot-oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such-and-such.

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays, 10 PM - 1 AM, on FM 88.7 The Choice, or online @ ktcu.net!

by Maximilian on Dec 9, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep...

the BCS screwed the two little guys into playing each other so they couldn’t go and beat two BCS teams like Utah did last year and then turn around and tell the BCS told ya so.

What a bunch of bullshit the BCS is.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 9, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Fox totally avoided being embarrassed on TV by showing TCU fans cheering wildly. They fail to mention they only told the crowd we were in the Fiesta Bowl, and didn’t state the opponent til after the cameras were off.

Lisa, if the Bible has taught us nothing else - and it hasn't - it's that girls should stick to girls' sports, such as hot-oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such-and-such.

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays, 10 PM - 1 AM, on FM 88.7 The Choice, or online @ ktcu.net!

by Maximilian on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

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