Kevin Goldstein's top 100 prospect list
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 13, 2009 11:22 AM CST
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Kevin Goldstein runs down his top 100 prospects...
Six Rangers make the list.
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Wow. Derek Holland at 40.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
And Andrus at 73.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus at 73 doesn't shock me.
Holland at 40 does a little. Even with only one year of good baseball, Golstein has slobbered over him so much I’m surprised one year wasn’t enough for him to put him higher.
by philkid3 on Feb 13, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
I had forgot Goldstein’s Andrus hate when I posted that.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus hate?
Having him in the top 100 prospects is hate?
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Feb 13, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess because he doesn't crush on his tools as much as a lot of Rangers fans he hates him.
I tend to be with him on this one, so I guess I “hate” Andrus, too.
by philkid3 on Feb 13, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well hate is to strong,
I should have said that he’s nearly as hign on him compared to some other guys.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering his best year
is a .775 OPS (Rookie ball at 16) and his average year is a .704 OPS and he has been consistent in the minors having an error every 3 or 4 games at all levels, it may be the guys who have him higher is wrong. So far, all you can mark him up for is tools and his age. He hasn’t exactly lit it up on the field yet.
I’ll be happy if MJH is right, and he becomes Tony Fernandez or Renteria. That would be exceptionally good.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Feb 13, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be exceptional.
I might be higher on Tony Fernandez than the average joe, but I’ve got him as a borderline Hall of Fame case (probably the best shortstop I probably wouldn’t put in ever).
And Renteria might get in, but mostly for playing so long he’d get to 3,000 hits. I probably wouldn’t put him in, but still a good player for a long time.
by philkid3 on Feb 13, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a little surprised
that he ranked him a little on the low end, since he was on him so much earlier than other national sources. BA will have him in the 20s if their three top 50s are a correct indication.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably just needs a couple more months in the upper levels
to gain more respect, huh?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess you were right about Bowden not making his top 30
#31
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
And Bard at 97
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 13, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I remember
Also, this is the second reputable source that has Bowden ranked higher than Holland. Someone remind me why we shouldn’t trade from our catcher surplus to get this guy + a nice RP prospect?
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 13, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
title
was supposed to be “Yeah, I seem to remember several posters being pretty adamant that Goldstein wouldn’t have him near that high”. Of course, my memory is shady at times.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 13, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trades
I’ve said all along i’d take bowden and bard/hagadone
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 13, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm at the point where I'd take Bowden/Hagadone
Whether they threw in Bard or not.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 13, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I meant either bard or hagadone as the second player
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 13, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Well I’m not fine with Bard as the second player. Not a fan on one-pitch relievers with a history of horrible control issues. Give me Hagadone of give me death.
I’m not even sure I’d want Masterson as the second player. Kam Loe redux.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 13, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Simple
He is at 31 b/c he is a sure fire guy to be a solid player.
The problem is that no one thinks he can be anything more than a #3 starter, and that has questionable value for a catcher. Id be more inclined to take a chance on a younger guy with a higher ceiling than a guy like Bowden
by Horns130 on Feb 13, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is so not sure fire to be a solid player.
See: Kennedy, Ian.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ian Kennedy
Really hasn’t been given a true, fair opportunity
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if you're being serious or not, but my point is that no one who's yet to pitch in the big leagues (outside of one spot start) is a sure fire anything.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Halfway serious
But, yeah, I definitely agree.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Feliz – 6
Smoak – 22
Holland – 40
Main – 66
Beltre – 68 (!)
Andrus – 73
I thought Price was going to be 1. I don’t really know much about Wieters, though.
Also, they really like Beltre and Main!
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Feb 13, 2009 11:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was stunned by the Beltre location.
He’s getting an awful lot of love for a guy who’s never been above A-ball. Not saying I’m complaining; I’m just reserving judgment.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
by ghtd36 on Feb 13, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Smoak is ranked higher than LaPorta and Alonso. Nice.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Feb 13, 2009 11:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
he's real high on beltre
surprised me a little
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 13, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why is Brignac ahead of Andrus?
I’ve read that Brignac is basically Bartlett with a little more pop.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 11:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very surprised to see Beltre over Adenhart and others
by thedudeabides on Feb 13, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Adenhart REALLY sucked last year.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro Alvarez #4?
That seems a little crazy to me….
by JBImaknee on Feb 13, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
goldstein was always high on him
LONG time
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Goldstein
definitely has his own opinion on some of these guys. A lot of surprising choices in the top 30 or so.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 13, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A few things surprise me...
No Martin Perez . No Julio Borbon. Engel Beltre that high and ahead of Andrus. Derek Holland at 40 (should be in the 25-30 IMO). The high rankings of Stanton and Inoa bother me.
by Michael Cave on Feb 13, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Goldstein isn't a big Andrus guy
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 13, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I realized that after posting it. Who do you think is the most polarizing Rangers prospect? Michael Main or Andrus to me
by Michael Cave on Feb 13, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
andrus
far and away i think
keep in mind that a LOT of this main talk stems from this offseason (i have to remind myself)
MAYBE beltre also
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's either Andrus or Borbon.
And lately probably more Andrus, but both of them really for the same reasons.
I think Lemon’s a little polarizing, too.
And Teagarden and Ramirez as a pair are up there.
by philkid3 on Feb 13, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is surprising
considering how high he seems to be on Beltre
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 13, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the big distinction
is Beltre’s power potential. For me, Andrus has really moved to another planet in his pitch recognition and patience at the plate, but we know from KG’s other comments that he does not view Andrus highly in that regard either.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have Beltre ahead of Andrus
and I’m a pretty big Andrus guy. Elvis’s upside is something like Edgar Renteria or Tony Fernandez. Beltre’s upside is something like Carlos Beltran or Junior Griffey. If you prioritize “upside” over “likelihood of reaching it” like I do (and Kevin does for the most part), then you’ll go with Beltre over Andrus. The one that baffles me is Holland.
by mjh on Feb 13, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike, did you ever put out your rankings?
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your RSS feed abilities failed you
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Feb 13, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing I ceded my crown.
Sounds like the damn thing’s broke…
lol
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 13, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm suprised he's got Andrus on there
And not Max or Teagarden.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 13, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a pretty big Portillo guy, which I’m sure wouldn’t surprise anyone, but there is no way I’d take him over Perez right now.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you take Inoa over M-Per? Right now, I mean.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whi is M-Per?
?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 13, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whi is E-Cof?
?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heheh
Probably a rarely diagnosed respiratory disease.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 13, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Martin Perez.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd take Perez
over Portillo, though.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 15, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thoughts
this made me happy:
22. Justin Smoak, 1B, Rangers
23. Trevor Cahill, RHP, Athletics
24. Brett Anderson, LHP, Athletics
im actually quite suprised matt domingueez is that far ahead of brett wallace, i guess he REALLY doesnt think wallace ends up a 3b?
greg halman over f-martinez? halman is a huge bust guy this year imho
isnt elbert a RP now?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
isnt elbert a RP now?
sort of in the same way Diamond is, I think.
by clark on Feb 13, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
25 games
1 start
vs diamond
- 12 games/11 starts
hmm i guess he thinks hes gonna bea SP
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
vitters above wallace also? wow
he relly likes lawrie (klaw doesnt think he can catch or play 2b)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Duos
Also, Feliz/Holland avg ranking 23, Anderson/Cahill avg ranking 23.5. Ha!
by Michael Cave on Feb 13, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we win
take that paul thomas!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YES
That is exactly why i wrote that haha
by Michael Cave on Feb 13, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah?
Martin Perez has wet dreams that someday, maybe, if every second of his life works out absolutely perfectly, he could approach being the kind of prospect James Simmons is.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actual quote
Perez/Simmons: Perez dreams of being James Simmons in four years. A’s.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Yeah I have been frequenting that site for a bit but dont post much over there. I would post more but some of those guys are just SO off base it isnt even worth it. I did spend a good deal of time over there though when it was announced the Rangers had the best farm system. Sweet, sweet justice
by Michael Cave on Feb 13, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
6 Rangers
5 A’s
5 Rays
Anybody else in the 5s?
1 Astros. teehee
Dreaming of 2009
by RangerMoto on Feb 13, 2009 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
nationals:
56. Jordan Zimmerman, RHP, Nationals
65. Michael Burgess, OF, Nationals
81. Ross Detwiler, LHP, Nationals
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey i can hope that the dc team doesnt suck it up
that said, i think kalw said that zimmerman is a # 3 — and burgess was hurt last year + detwiler who knows whats going on there
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 13, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two Top 10 picks in the draft!
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 14, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I only counted on my phone
but I think the Marlins have six.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I counted five:
11. Cameron Maybin, OF, Marlins
14. Mike Stanton, OF, Marlins
26. Matt Dominguez, 3B, Marlins
53. Logan Morrison, 1B, Marlins
82. Kyle Skipworth, C, Marlins
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was probably wrong, it is five. I got distracted and couldn’t remember if I’d already counted Skipworth.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty nice list...
no pitching though.
Of course they already have some nice young arms at the ML level.
This could be another one of those years for the Marlins. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they won the NL East or got the WC.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 13, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, those bats
That is quite a collection of boom/bust guys. Maybin and Stanton have great potential but big questions about their control of the strike zone (though people say that about Chris Davis as well). And Skipworth is a pretty typical ‘shoot for the stars’ 1st round HS catcher pick.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 13, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scary to think that the Rays
have that major league squad and still have enough solid prospects to have five in his top 100.
by jwiscarson on Feb 13, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its amazing what being dead last out of 30 teams for a solid decade gets ya.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 13, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They also draft well
Drafting does not equal drafting well. Just look at the Pirates.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Feb 13, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
correcting
Drafting high does not equal drafting well.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Feb 13, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A nice analysis was done on the team they've put together a while ago.
And it wasn’t much from drafting.
by philkid3 on Feb 13, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teehee...poor Fred:
fredlummis
(19295)
I was referring the Astros’ decision to draft Castro (at #10) over Smoak (#11) last June. As an Astros season ticket holder, it’s tough to see Smoak ranked 50+ spots higher less than a year into their careers.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 13, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
x
Poor Fred Astros fans.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 13, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A slightly different look a the list
Ordered by number or prospects, then alphabetically by team, then by ranking. This gives a pretty good look at the relative strengths of each teams prospects. Doesn’t take into account the numerical ranking of the prospects.
Team Rank Name Position Rangers 6 Neftali Feliz RHP Rangers 22 Justin Smoak 1B Rangers 40 Derek Holland LHP Rangers 66 Michael Main RHP Rangers 68 Engel Beltre OF Rangers 73 Elvis Andrus SS Athletics 20 Michel Inoa RHP Athletics 23 Trevor Cahill RHP Athletics 24 Brett Anderson LHP Athletics 48 Chris Carter 1B Athletics 93 Adrian Cardenas SS Braves 10 Jason Heyward OF Braves 13 Tommy Hanson RHP Braves 50 Jordan Schafer OF Braves 78 Gorkys Hernandez OF Braves 80 Freddie Freeman 1B Brewers 51 Alcides Escobar SS Brewers 57 Brett Lawrie C Brewers 58 Mat Gamel 3B Brewers 72 Jeremy Jeffress RHP Brewers 79 Angel Salome C Dodgers 59 Ethan Martin RHP Dodgers 64 James McDonald RHP Dodgers 70 Scott Elbert LHP Dodgers 77 Andrew Lambo OF Dodgers 95 Ivan DeJesus Jr SS Marlins 11 Cameron Maybin OF Marlins 14 Mike Stanton OF Marlins 26 Matt Dominguez 3B Marlins 53 Logan Morrison 1B Marlins 82 Kyle Skipworth C Orioles 1 Matt Wieters C Orioles 16 Chris Tillman RHP Orioles 19 Brian Matusz LHP Orioles 52 Jake Arrieta RHP Orioles 98 Brandon Erbe RHP Rays 2 David Price LHP Rays 15 Tim Beckham SS Rays 29 Wade Davis RHP Rays 49 Desmond Jennings OF Rays 62 Reid Brignac SS Blue Jays 5 ravis Snider OF Blue Jays 41 J.P. Arenciba C Blue Jays 88 David Cooper 1B Blue Jays 90 Brett Cecil LHP Giants 3 Madison Bumgarner LHP Giants 9 Buster Posey C Giants 47 Angel Villalona 1B Giants 60 Tim Alderson RHP Red Sox 17 Lars Anderson 1B Red Sox 31 Michael Bowden RHP Red Sox 87 Josh Reddick OF Red Sox 97 Daniel Bard RHP Cardinals 8 Colby Rasmus OF Cardinals 37 Brett Wallace 3B Cardinals 67 Chris Perez RHP Indians 30 Matt LaPorta 1B Indians 33 Carlos Santana C Indians 83 Nick Weglarz OF Mariners 42 Greg Halman OF Mariners 61 Phillippe Aumont RHP Mariners 75 Michael Saunders OF Mets 44 Fernando Martinez OF Mets 54 Wilmer Flores SS Mets 94 Jefry Marte 3B Nationals 56 Jordan Zimmerman RHP Nationals 65 Michael Burgess OF Nationals 81 Ross Detwiler LHP Padres 69 Mat Latos RHP Padres 84 Kellen Kulbacki OF Padres 100 Adys Portillo RHP Phillies 43 Carlos Carrasco RHP Phillies 55 Michael Taylor OF Phillies 92 Kyle Drabek RHP Pirates 4 Pedro Alvarez 3B Pirates 25 Andrew McCutchen OF Pirates 91 Jose Tabata OF Reds 35 Yonder Alonso 1B Reds 86 Todd Frazier SS Reds 96 Drew Stubbs OF Rockies 12 Dexter Fowler OF Rockies 27 Jhoulys Chacin RHP Rockies 45 Wilin Rosario C White Sox 28 Gordon Beckham SS White Sox 74 Aaron Poreda LHP White Sox 99 Brandon Allen 1B Angels 63 Jordan Walden RHP Angels 71 Nick Adenhart RHP Cubs 34 Josh Vitters 3B Cubs 85 Jeff Samardzija RHP Diamondbacks 32 Jarrod Parker RHP Diamondbacks 89 Daniel Schlereth LHP Royals 18 Eric Hosmer 1B Royals 21 Mike Moustakas 3B Twins 36 Ben Revere OF Twins 39 Aaron Hicks OF Yankees 38 Jesus Montero C Yankees 46 Austin Jackson CF Astros 76 Jason Castro C Tigers 7 Rick Porcello RHP
by NorCalRangersFan on Feb 13, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
still wish we had taken porcello
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 13, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's probably at UNC if we did.
or wherever he was wanting to go…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 13, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why the hell do you assume that?
our 1st rounders dont not get signed. in fact we are one of the few teams that draftees know they can get their fat check from.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 13, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me giggle
Angels 63 Jordan Walden RHP
Angels 71 Nick Adenhart RHP
by BEW on Feb 13, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ravis Snider
heh
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Feb 13, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On Teabag & Max:
ScotMartin
10 catchers on the list and not one of them with the Rangers. Is it Teagarden’s bat and Ramirez’s defense keeping them off the list?
Kevin Goldstein
BP staff
Bingo! Like ‘em both. Don’t love ’em both.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 13, 2009 1:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OT: Mavs
supposedly they turned down Baron Davis for Jason Kidd.
and they are looking to acquire Vince Carter? huh?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 13, 2009 2:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
baron davis and chris cayman or however you spell it for kidd
and the mavs turned it down. as a rangers fan and an expert on knowing when he sees teams who are going nowhere fast, im glad im convinced NBA is an illegitimate sport.
hey but you can cheer for the lakers and celtics both created championship calibre franchises by giving up jack shit to get the final pieces to their teams…. … go NBA!!
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 13, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
that whole Gasol trade was one of the most one sided trades ive ever seen. The Mavs got to the level a few yrs back where anything but a title became unacceptable however the notion of rebuilding always seems unacceptable to their owner. Im in the camp that says they just need to tear it down and start over. However, that would be tough because that means that 2010 is probably a lottery pick for the NETS!! Effing Harris-Kidd trade. I think that Cuban thinks he will end up luring Bosh or James here after 2010.
by Michael Cave on Feb 13, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
I think that Cuban thinks he will end up luring Bosh or James here after 2010.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 13, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dwyane Wade is more likely
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Feb 13, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wade
He can play in Dallas, on the condition that he correct the stupid-ass way his first name is spelled.
As far as I’m concerned, his name is pronounced “dwy-ann,” like Diane, but with a “w.”
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Feb 13, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Al Jefferson
Top 2 or 3 young centers in the league?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And
While the Bdiddy, Caveman trade is intriguing, I think we were wise to say no. Baron will kill you.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That wouldn't surprise me
They apparently don’t want any contracts that run past 2009-10.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 13, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true
Cuban said he isn’t totally opposed to it, just has to be the right player.. Baron isn’t that player.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 13, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2010
That trade would have taken them out of the 2010 free agent spending spree and would not have made them that much better this year. Davis is too injury prone for my tastes.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on Feb 13, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Micheal Inoa.
Sigh…
I hate the A’s so, so much.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep,
is it just me or do you think that the MLB would have looked in to the Rangers for Bean instead of blowing it off like they did at JD’s request for them to investigate the A’s?
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 13, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Budford Selig runs MLB so I'd think there is always a 100% chance of MLB taking the most fucktarded course action.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He'd probably
suspend Billy Bean for admitting he signed Inoa
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Feb 13, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I look at it this way
We’ve got Justin Smoak, they’ve got Inoa.
That of course eases my hatred of their slight-handed theft of Inoa, or evens the score, but it’s something to tell yourself.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 13, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Er
That of course does nothing to ease my hatred of their slight-handed theft of Inoa, or evens the score, but it’s something to tell yourself.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 13, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Inoa and Hicks/Martin/Wallace (who were our other options, imo) over Smoak and whoever the hell our consolation prize was in the LA market this year.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 13, 2009 9:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t follow the Inoa thing to closely, I thought the Yankees had first “dibs” on him via verbal agreement, but when he backed out of that they refused to talk with him. Where the Rangers in on him before or after that?
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock." - Pedro Martinez, explaining his secret ambition to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
by OCD SS on Feb 14, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Inoa
The story I heard was the A’s broke the rules and had an agreement with him before they were allowed to. The Rangers were in on him, but his adviser may have been dirty and taken money to steer him to the a’s.
I can’t remember 100% of the details but the thats the gist.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 14, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers also
had the highest offer.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 14, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers had the highest offer but never got to make it cause the A's had an agreement in place before the "official negotiating period" even started.
Or so the story goes.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.
by thedirkatron on Feb 14, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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