Anybody believe a word of Arod's steroid BS?
by Sharky on Feb 18, 2009 6:20 AM CST
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Besides AJM of course.
I dont, the guy is proven liar.
I'm all for the idea of pull a Pettite, admit it, get it over with, people apparantly respect you more. But it doesnt work for me for Arod because he's clearly still lying. He's just admitting enough to try and explain the positive test. It's obvious to me he isnt telling the truth though.
The whole "Oh, I was under the pressure of 252m so I did it" was such lame baloney, and another pathetic attempt by Arod to pin this on those dirty Rangers btw.., because he saw a sympathetic "in" in that angle for his PR purposes. But LSB still hates Tex instead right? Because you guys are real consistent. But the reason that excuse rang so BS with me was because, his (supposedly pre-roid) performance in Seattle was what GOT him the huge contract..proving he certainly didn't need some sort of sudden help. It just doesnt make a lot of sense. Yep, he fabricated that along with so many other portions of his story to make a nice pat PR friendly narrative.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9209474/A-Rod:-I-took-over-the-counter-substance
What a joke..
If you want respect Arod, stop lying.
Pretty amazing there are no other fanposts about this. Arod is a sacred cow at LSB I suppose.
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Of course he is pulling a Pettite
and he is lying just like Pettite was. So what?
All these players have learned that fake apologies work.
Get off my lawn.
The difference
Is that I believe (and I believe the public believes) that in the main Pettite came clean and told the truth.
Arod is not. He’s just lying more and admitting only exactly what he has to.
And
Coincidentally nobody is buying it, because people can tell to an extent when somebody is being honest.
Everybody knows this morning the Arod presser was fake as hell and a joke. That’s not what people were saying after Petitte.
If I’m Arod, I decide to tell the truth about this in the main as much as possible (too late now though). If nothing else makes it a lot easier to keep his story straight. As it is it’s just another Arod being a laughingstock moment.
Pettite is just as much of a liar
as Arod, no different to me.
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by Kinslerhomer on Feb 18, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
How do you know Pettitte came clean?
He claims he only took steroids twice and then it was only to help recover from an injured elbow. Pettitte’s claim is basically that he never used steroids to “enhance” his performance. How we do know that’s true?
to me though
helping to recover from injured elbow/better or faster recovery = returning faster/strong = enhancing performance
whats the biggest difference in taking PEDs to recover from an injured elbow or a RP taking PEDs during the season to help him recover faster/bounce back faster?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Also,
if you were taking PEDs to recover faster, can’t you find a licensed Doctor to prescribe them? I’m not up on my ‘roids, but isn’t it possible to get them with a doctor’s prescription?
Get off my lawn.
HGH i think you can w/ a doctors prescription
which makes it all the more interesting
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Yep
I’ve been prescribed them on several occasions by a doctor, once for a shoulder injury, and the other times for allergic reactions to insect bites. Granted, it was only a week’s supply each time.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
interesting
were there any noticiblee effects?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Not really
But the ones I was prescribed were corticosteroids, which mostly have anti-inflammatory properties.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
ahhh ok
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
this has to be the best sharky schtick
Identifying some random thing as an AJM/LSB sacred cow and then railing on it. My personal favorite is Houston sports teams. That one makes absolutely no sense.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Uhhh
If you havent noticed AJM has a few player biases, for and against, I dont know what to tell you. Perhaps you voted for Obama?
Unlike you....
I’m sure you have no biases toward anone or anything.
Perhaps you voted for W…….twice.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
The whole “Oh, I was under the pressure of 252m so I did it”
so he was still doing it in NYC – he was essentially under the same contract + the pressure of an entire CITY on his back
…right?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
and what's his contract now?
hmm….seems like a lot of pressure.
he’s lying.
Another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!
my problem is that
his logic is flawed — which would lead one to believe that yes – he is not telling the truth
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
don't care
Pretty amazing there are no other fanposts about this. Arod is a sacred cow at LSB I suppose
I think most of us really don’t care abour ARod and steroids in general. Lets get back to baseball.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Right
Because this isn’t the story dominating the national media today about an ex-Ranger or anything, and there’s sooooo much else going on with the Rangers as usual this offseason..
Have no idea why its dominating the media.
100+ MLB players failed a test they knew was coming. That’s more than an eighth of MLB. This doesn’t count the folks who stopped in time for the tests or the folks who were using the “good stuff” thats basicly undetectable.
How the 100+ folks who failed isn’t the story is beyond me. Why ARod’s name is the only name to come out is also an interesting story.
However, its not that big of a deal, because basicly all MLB players and all good Rangers have pretty much been using steroids. ARod, Raffy, Pudge, Juan, etc., all juicers.
Get off my lawn.
Are you serious?
Looks like you’re a butthurt Arod fanboy confirmed. I had no idea.
Steroids have dominated baseball discussion for YEARS and now they involve it’s biggest player and you’re shocked it’s a story..right.
If anything Arod predictably has been getting a pass from the liberal media compared to others less politically correct like McGwire, Bonds and Palmerio.
I really don't get how they failed
when they knew the test was coming. That many? That means that the number taking them before testing was astronomical. Because most people will hear “anonymous testing”- and say – “hey, I’m still being tested, it may come out in the future sometime, I’d better lay off”. For 100+ to still be positive – wow.
how 100+ failed the test
because i doubt they knew far enough ahead to cycle off of whatever they were taking – im sure more than a few were
deca i think stays in your system for about 6 months – so unless they knew that far ahead
also the percentage people using the good stuff at that point in time was probably quite low
the rest of their names shouldnt come out IMHO – and the lady who leaked it should HAVE to tell her sources…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
I think if one name comes out
they all ought to come out. Let’s see a big laundry list.
Get off my lawn.
but considering that none were supposed to come out in the first place
why release the rest?
also, what is going to happen to the person that leaked arod’s name in the first place? probably nothing – which is a shame
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
Honestly,
I’d just as soon see it for the circus aspect and I’m bored this offseason.
If I was MLB on the other hand, I’d burn all references to the players, and would have burnt it long ago.
It is odd that just one name from a list that big came out.
Get off my lawn.
the biggest question is
why did he admit it…without any evidence
why wouldnt the MLB have destroyed the evidence and attempted to cover up the fact that the player who no one thought ws taking steriods was? during atime when ppl are already fed up with PEDs + baseball, and already are using less of their disposable income = less ticket sales, etc
to me this is kind of a head scratcher but then again its bud
dont get me wrong, i would LOVE to see the list of 103 up on wikileaks but i doubt it will ever happen ya know?
why wouldnt the MLB or MLBPA have destroyed the evidence after all of the steriods talk the last 6 or so months is beyond me.
what evidence is there that arod actually TOOK steroids besides one “anon source” telling the pregnant lady that he took steroids – did they have pictures? documentation? or was it just their word?
if its me i think the MLB needs to totally clean house. find your kennesaw mountian landis – i mena look at the sentence on wikipedia
The owners decided to appoint a commission made up entirely of non-baseball men to restore confidence in the sport following the 1919 Black Sox Scandal, perhaps the worst of a number of incidents that jeopardized the integrity of the game
change to
The owners decided to appoint a commission made up entirely of non-baseball men to restore confidence in the sport following the1919 Black Sox ScandalPED “problem”, perhaps the worst of a number of incidents that jeopardized the integrity of the game
find someone who is going to come in and be a hardass
the MLB paid bud about 47 mil the last 3 years – pay the next guy 17 over the next 3 years (5.6 mil each year, repeating of course lol) – and take the other 30 million and invest in a STRONG ped testing program. have mandentory testing of all MLB players, begin testing minor leaguers their first season. have strong penalties against steroids – 2 false testings and your banned forever. stick to them.
continue to pour money into a testing program, see if you can get the NCAA to join you in a comprehensive testing program.
come out and have a transparent program – straight up say you want to clear PEDs from the game – for good – and have a program to back it up.
your not going to be able to stop EVERYONE from taking PEDs of course but if they did this it would cut out 99% of those taking PEDs because only probably 1% of the players in baseball will be able to stomach the monthly cost of taking the “untestable” PEDs
baseball needs a new commish and one whose gonna crack down on PEDs and “clean up” the game. plain and simple.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I think he admitted it
because he saw how it went for Giambi and Pettite vs. Bonds and Clemens. It looks like right now you are better off taking your lumps than stonewalling it.
Get off my lawn.
My favorite comment
was the “I should have gone to college – I was young and stupid”
Newsflash ARod – you wouldn’t have still been in college in 2003…
maybe he was on the van wilder
or taking multiple victory laps heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
A-Rod's not a sacred cow around here
There are basically four camps:
1) those that hate him for his contract. I’m in that boat. It doesn’t make sense since Hicks is the idiot that overpaid, but whatever. My reason doesn’t have to make sense.
2) those that hate him for the way he behaved on his way out and crapping on his teammates. I’m in this category too.
3) those that hated his trade to NY and the return Texas got (plus paying a big chunck of his salary). That’s the players union’s fault in my view.
4) those that separate 1-3 from A-Rod’s performance and recognize he was an incredible player while in Texas. I think AJM might fit in here and I can’t help but agree with this opinion too.
Category No. 2 for me.
But I understand No. 4. He was an excellent player in Texas; no denying that.
But that doesn’t excuse the fact that he behaved like a child on his way out (and for a while leading up to the trade).
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
He behaved
no more like a child than St. Michael did when being told he was moving to 3rd.
Get off my lawn.
the difference
is taht he was better than michael young in just about every fact of the game
including being a team leader (doesnt say much for FOTF does it)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
arod was a leader?
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by studcrackers on Feb 19, 2009 1:06 AM CST up reply actions
Never said he didn't.
And trust me: I lost a lot of respect for Michael Young.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
I used to feel that way
Now after seeing him in New York, I think that a big part of that is just his great ability to put his foot in his mouth – trying so hard to say something smart and authentic that he comes across as fake and egotistical. We all know people like that – its hard to hold that stuff against ARod now.
If the Rangers wanted to keep ARod, they could have. They sold the best player in baseball for pennies on the dollar for no real reason.
i am in the 4th camp
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
I'm in the fourth group
I am in #3 also – I hated that deal. It was a bad deal when it happened, got worse when the team did the same thing with Soriano a few years later. ARod is a great, great player. And was fantastic in Arlington. He, like most other great egos, needed to be coddled, and his whining for a trade was just a cry for attention. Hicks used it as an opportunity to get rid of the contract, which is understandable, but in implementation was just a screw up.
I think ARod, by now, realizes that forcing that deal was a mistake. In Texas, he’d have continued to put up heroic numbers (far better than in New York), the spotlight would be less bright (he obviously can’t handle it, though he thought he could), and I would put good money that this never would have been revealed. ARod’s target would have continuously gotten smaller while in Texas – other free agents would have gotten stupid money. Whereas in New York, failure is magnified and comes much quicker.
Heck, the “leak” could have been a smart guess (originating from the ARod hate in New York), and ARod, not knowing for certain whether his name is on that list or not, just fessed up for risk of looking really bad if the list came out and he was on it.
As someone who used to teach media training
Whoever he hired should be fired. That was the wost display I’ve seen since the Ryan Leaf “apology” in his locker.
First off, a written statement? Fine if you need one, just don’t read off a crumpled piece of paper. And if you do, be a little more discrete about it – don’t wave it around like a white flag. You’re really better off just trying to memorize your bullet points. Sounds – and looks – more genuine.
Someone needs to teach him body language and facial expressions. All too often he came across as someone who didn’t want to be there – who could blame him? But it doesn’t need to look like this is all beneath him. It’s fine to pause while you think of an answer. All too often people get into more trouble when they try to fill in the silence between question and answer. You can look thoughtful and introspective that way – just not the way he did.
The setting was also bad. I think visually it would have looked better for him to be in uniform on the field than in a parking lot with a Yankees backdrop. If you have that kind of control, put your client in the most comfortable position he can be in. In this case, the field. And if you can swing it, have his teammates literally stand behind him through the duration – not easy to pull off, but again a great visual.
The biggest thing I told all my clients is to be as truthful as you can. A “no comment” is as good as an omission as is an “I don’t know.” You don’t need to give more than asked, but if you stretch it or flat out lie, you will be found out. In this case, he could have told more about the drug itself – what it was specifically, where he got it, etc. The whole cousin thing is just ridiculous – true or not, it’s not necessary.
I do give him credit for saying “this is all on me.” I think he should have stuck to that line more than the “young and stupid” remark. He wasn’t that young and he wasn’t stupid enough to turn down a quarter of a billion in salary.
The last thing you want is for your answers to generate more questions. I know he spends a lot of money on image and PR people. he’s not getting his money’s worth. Either that, or he’s just incapable of looking and sounding genuine.
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by Ted Price on Feb 18, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
rec here too
great post
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Funny line...
…from Deadspin’s AJ Daulerio RE: Selig and steroids:
Obviously, this is in response to Selig’s baffling defensiveness about his role in baseball’s steroid era, where he acted shocked and appalled over public sentiments implicating him in the whole mess. Basically, WHY AREN’T PEOPLE CONGRATULATING ME FOR MAKING SO MUCH MONEY?, or something to that effect.
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
I think
the owners should be congratulating him. The business of baseball hasn’t been this healthy in awhile. TV contracts are up, attendance is good, etc.
Get off my lawn.
Selig
has been a great commissioner for the people who pay his salary. He’s good at his job. He’s pretty bad at the job everyone else thinks he has – but hey, that’s not what he’s paid for. He’s paid to boost baseball’s bottom line.
Ideally, the Commish should be something else. Someone who has the interests of the game above that of the owners or the players. But that isn’t reality.
Yeah it isn't reality.
I have no idea why folks think Baseball is different from any other business. Folks don’t seem to have problems with the NFL or NBA making decisions based on what is good for business.
Get off my lawn.
This is spot on
Selig has done exactly what he’s supposed to do. The people complaining about him are confused about his job description.
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I didn't think
Someone could come across looking WORSE yesterday than A-Rod – but yet again, our fearless commissioner defies the impossible.
The Poster Formally Known As: UrbanDad
"Listen to Ted. Trust him. If he cuts you off, switch gears and go with it." -- Shroomer
Selig & A-Rod
I hereby nominate both of them for the 2009 Biggest Douche in the Universe Award…
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
2009 bum steer award winners? lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 18, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
No, I don't believe a word the guy says
He compartmentalizes to minimize damage. First, I never took steroids. Second, I took them but it was the Rangers fault due to their lack of pedigree, “they’re a bunch of loose cannons but now that I’m a hallowed Yankee, I’d never do anything illicit to damage the heritage.” Third, “I was young, I wasn’t even sure they were steroids. I was a kid, I didn’t know what I was doing.” This from a guy who was able to manipulate himself to a gigantic contract and terrific PR, most of which was pure hooey.
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