McCarthy and Wilson impressing in Surprise
According to Washington, CJ Wilson and Brandon McCarthy have been the most impressive pitchers in camp thus far. I think Jeff Wilson is right; these two are the most important pitchers for the Rangers in 2009. I know Adam also pointed this out in the most recent podcast: McCarthy is probably the Rangers best shot to develop a top of the rotation starter, at least until Holland and Feliz reach the majors. Here is to hoping he can stay healthy and remain impressive.
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LSB posting greats.
"Obama is a Christian - He's always been a Christian...But.........what if he is[a Muslim]? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer is no, that's not America." Colin Powell on Obama/Muslim assertions.
by AirJordan on Feb 19, 2009 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I remember...
when BMac first started posting here as “Black Glove Righty” and some LSBers got upset (I may have been one of them) because they thought he was some troll mocking BGL. Then BMac let everyone know that Ceej would know who he was, and sure enough he did know it was BMac. Of course that was pretty short lived because the BGL stuff happened shortly after that.
I always thought it was cool that a player or two would actually grace LSB with their presence.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 19, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't. They've got bigger shit to worry about.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So do all of us.
I mean, presumably.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.
by thedirkatron on Feb 20, 2009 5:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
If having more important things to do precluded a person from posting on LSB, most of us wouldn’t be here.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Feb 20, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CJ was the one that got mad
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 19, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im going to get in trouble at work
for as many times as i check on this site per day!!! Spring training is amazing!
I honestly think that CJ is going to force himself into the closer role again. IMO he has some great stuff when he is on and healthy!! If he can figure out is “head” demons then the kid can realy close out a game. But hey, maybe his “head demons” were really his arm. I sure can hope it was!!!
Come on April 6th BABY!!!
by thad728 on Feb 19, 2009 4:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
EXCITEMENT!!!!!!!!
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
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by Maximilian on Feb 19, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WHY ARE WE YELLING!!!
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 19, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...your a foot from me.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Feb 19, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOUD NOISES
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by Maximilian on Feb 19, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love lamp!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 20, 2009 6:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 20, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BMac video
He looks back to his normal delivery. Nice long stride and follow through.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Feb 19, 2009 4:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bmac
impressed a lot last ST as well.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 19, 2009 4:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He did?
There was buzz about him working in the bullpen with Nolan, as I recall, but he was hurt too much last spring to really impress too much.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was shut down during his first ST outing, IIRC.
He didn’t have much opportunity to impress last spring.
by NoNameOnCard on Feb 19, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
he impressed for about a week, then he went down. I guess i don’t like comments like ron’s ‘cause i’m so use to false hope, i dunno…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 19, 2009 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I take anything Ron says with a grain of salt
Because when it comes to pitchers, I’m fairly certain he has no idea what the hell he’s talking about.
That said, it’s always good to hear positive things about key players like McCarthy, even when they come from our dunderhead manager.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So who hates who more...
Josey / JD
LSJ / Wash
Dirkatron / MY
Sharky / Obama
?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 19, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oc/Rodney?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't hate anyone.
Maybe some hate me, but that’s their fucking problem, not mine :)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 19, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's always saying mean things to you.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Being abrasive seems to be OC's shtick
Or at least you hope it’s shtick. I just try to take him for what he’s worth and not let him spoil my LSB experience too much.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely shtick
good shtick, imo
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not schtick. Both of you are Chatty Kathys.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While the two of you are too busy chumming it up with one another, I am the reminder that this world is not your chum and that you shouldn't expect it to be.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I would like to retract that last statement.
I did not mean to sound that sure of myself and apologize for having said so.
I would like to add that both of you are posting better pictures these days.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But the two of you are still Chatty Kathys.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As am I, apparently.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And while I take this subthread further into the shitter, I would like to add that my 14 hour work day in which I only did 14 minutes of actual work prevented me from going to see the Trail Of Dead at the Granada and I am bitterly pissed.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 20, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You listen to Trail of the Dead too?
I love you.
I too missed them tonight because of my radio shift at KTCU, but settled on playing their new cd.
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Scott Feldman for 2010 AL Scott Feldman
by Maximilian on Feb 20, 2009 1:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Choice is a damn fine radio station.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 21, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a specialty show
Thursdays 10 PM-1 AM. It’s a lot of fun.
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
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by Maximilian on Feb 21, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, wtf would he know anything about pitchers?
Baseball has only been his profession for 35 fucking years…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 19, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t most of the Lone Star Ball posters feels that Nolan doesn’t know shit about baseball either because he was only a pitcher? Hall of Fame pitcher, but only a pitcher. Not sure how long Ryan has been in baseball but it has to be as long or nearly as long as Warsh.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Feb 20, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, never read that here
The only complaints I have read have to do with the fear that he would expect pitchers to handle the same workload he undertook when he was pitching.
by bigskinny on Feb 20, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
People here were skeptical
that being a former player, HOFer or not, automatically translated into running a baseball organization. Luckily, he has been an asset both in public relations (expected by all) and running the org (what we were worried about). He bought into the long term plan and is a good buffer between Hicks and the team.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 20, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JSJ,
You have many good points to make on lonestarball, but I think it’s unfortunate that you’ve become to Wash what Josey is to JD. I think you’re better than that. Also, if the Rangers stumble out of the gate and fire Wash, it’s almost a certainty that Jackie Moore will become the new manager – he’s not exactly great manager material.
Also, many of the complaints you make are JD’s responsibility, not Wash’s. For example, somewhere in this thread you single out Wash for stunting Salty’s development by not giving him regular playing time. Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to be upset with JD for not leaving Salty in AAA for longer or for not moving Laird earlier?
More – I would take anything any MLB manager says this time of year with more than a grain of salt. All of them are talking up there players, setting up some positive vibes. It’s basicly meaningless chatter for us.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Feb 19, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are good points
I probably did get a bit over the top this afternoon (guess I felt like ranting). I don’t mean to sound like Josey when it comes to ranting about Wash (I will admit, for example, that as a coach and a people motivator, I’ll admit there is a certain measure of value) but I just think Ron Washington is far below par when it comes to the actual “managing” part of his job.
Your point about JD holding out trying max out Laird’s value for so long is a valid one (though it did get us Moscoso, who could turn out to be important). But in the end, I don’t think that completely excuses Wash from playing him all the time over Salty, either – while the org shouldn’t have brought Salty up if they weren’t going to play him, the manager’s unwillingness to play an important young player like that still has to leave you questioning if he’s the right person to be managing a young team.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Salty
What was Wash supposed to do? Laird is a good catcher, another MLB team traded two prospects to have him as their everyday catcher. They had to split time somehow. I believe that Millwood wanted Laird to start his games – Salty only caught Millwood while Laird was on the DL. I would also bet that JD didn’t anticipate Bradley would play in the field so infrequently tying up the DH spot.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Feb 19, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
But he didn’t have to religate Salty to backup catcher for the second half – when Laird cooled off.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Salty hurt in the second half?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Feb 20, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not until September
Actually, it was his injury that opened up the playing time for Teagarden, because IIRC, they had just announced they where going to a 3-man platoon for September or something.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 20, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was hurt in July though, during the time Laird went down
Which seemed to be the only reason Max Ramirez ever got any playing time from Washington.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 20, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"cause i’m so use to false hope..."
Heh.
Too easy. Way too easy.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 19, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too easy. Way too easy.
no need to bring your mother and sister into this.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 20, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Snap
That’s one of the most original comebacks ever, and you managed to come up with it in a mere 26 hours, you urbane moter of bons, you.
In related news, my momma is so stupid, she tripped over a cordless phone. Snap!
Also, my momma is so ugly, when my Daddy has to fuck her, he calls for his stunt double. Snappity snap snap!
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 21, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Serious question.
Because when it comes to pitchers, I’m fairly certain he has no idea what the hell he’s talking about.
Why do you always think you are smarter than everyone?
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 5:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How dare you question Baseball Jesus.
Check the stats, absolutely, but look at the face.
-Bruce Jenkins
by BHill on Feb 19, 2009 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You will be struck dead by a bolt of baseballs!
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
by boomer1 on Feb 19, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh
Damn straight.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone explain to me how he got that nickname?
I’ve always been wondering that
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 19, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Airjordan coined it, if memory serves
I had made some post ranting about something, and he reeled off that gem. I wish I could go back and find the post, but I deleted it by accident when I went back through my profile and swept out all my useless posts at some point last year.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When LSJ first got here he was rather, um, "sure of himself" in all matters baseball related.
He knew everything about baseball and if you didn’t agree with him then you were wrong, wrong, WRONG!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.
by thedirkatron on Feb 20, 2009 5:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It took me a few months to learn otherwise. And, of course there was also my unrequited man-love for Salty that probably sparked about 50% of the battles during the great catcher wars of last March to July.
I like to think I’m mostly reformed now, except when it comes to Wash and Salty.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 20, 2009 6:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hah that last line reminds me
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
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by Maximilian on Feb 20, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
shit posted too early
reminded me: “A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.”
Just let that marinate in your brain maaaaan.
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Scott Feldman for 2010 AL Scott Feldman
by Maximilian on Feb 20, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Premature posting huh?
I think they make pills for that….
by laxtonto on Feb 20, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
womp womp
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by Maximilian on Feb 20, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I knew I was gonna set off the fireworks with that one.
I’m not implying I know anything about pitchers either, I’m just saying that if Wash actually does… we deserve an apology and the pitching staff deserves a grievance bonus taken from Ron’s personal salary for the way he’s managed them the past two years.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, when Ron says something about a players defense, it means something
But pitchers? I’m just not so certain.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Broussard can pick it at first
Boy can he pick it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So he doesn't know about fielding either
Yay Us!! Our manager is a moron.
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by DaheelzCM on Feb 19, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But our players play there hearts out for him.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Millwood is in shape
LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by DaheelzCM on Feb 19, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the only thing he has going for him, IMO
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which isn't horrible, if surrounded by good baseball men
Better than Buck, if you ask me.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
'Greed.
Nobody could possibly be worse than Buckles. Well, maybe Dusty Baker or Ozzie Guillen. But nobody else.
Too bad that’s kind of a backhanded compliment.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So
with a better manager last year, we would have won more than 79 games?
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think so, yeah
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not many more, but maybe 2 or 3.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
so you think he is a dumbass but a better managers only wins us 2 or 3 games more.
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
Which doesn’t sound like much, but that probably would be a pretty big difference for us, currently.
Mainly my problem is I don’t like having a ding-dong managing (or mis-managing, rather) a team that’s in the midst of rebuilding and has a lot of young guys in transition on it. Who knows what kind of damage Ron has done to Salty’s development by shorting him playing time, or what keeping Chris Davis at the bottom of the order for to long could do to both him and run production.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows what kind of damage Ron has done to Salty’s development by shorting him playing time
In 07, he was getting regular playing time at 1b and he failed to perform. I am sure his pussy ass throws from behind the plate to 2b have something to do with Washington.
Which doesn’t sound like much, but that probably would be a pretty big difference for us, currently.
Why would it have made a big difference?
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure his pussy ass throws from behind the plate to 2b have something to do with Washington.
I am taking about last year when he was behind the plate.
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His throwing improved last year as the season went on
NOT playing him, or playing him at first base in ‘07 is what has hurt him (and us, since he’s still a question mark in the catcher situation).
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His throwing improved last year as the season went on
Thats my point. He wasn’t ready to be a staring catcher at the start of last year. Whose problem is that? Washington?
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
But shorting him the playing time he needed to improve is on Washington. And for what? So we could enjoy few weeks of fluky hot hitting by Gerald Laird? Sounded good at the time, but it sure wasn’t good for a team from the developmental standpoint.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he wasn't ready
because he kept having to sit on the bench…
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 19, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can blame
his hitting slumps on that but are you seriously blaming his bad defense on that?
by coolaid on Feb 19, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
You need to play to improve things like throwing mechanics and blocking, too.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 19, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With Salty being so young and
playing a lot of games last year at 1B, I do think lack of playing time hurt his defense too.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 20, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Salty
didn’t play 1B at all last year.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Feb 20, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm still saying last year like its 08.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 20, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nah
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
I think the pitching coach was chastised and let go, and we should give Ron a fresh start with some healthy arms to see how he’d really handle a normal situation before blaming the last decade of pitching problems on the guy
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 19, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For many...
Wash has used up all his chances.
I don’t always agree with some of the in games decisions he has made, but he gets way too much blame for this thing the last 2 years imo.
I’ve said it before, but tell me one manager that makes this team better the last two years given the bad pitching and injuries they have had. That stuff really isn’t Wash’s fault.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 19, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
even some of his bullpen mismanagement
he might have ran benoit’s arm into the ground…
But Jamey Wright? There was a lot of complaining about not giving others a look and while that’s true, we also saved wear and tear on young arms and instead ruined some other guy’s career that matters nothing to us down the line.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 19, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT. Rich summarizes Galloway's interview of Maddux:
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 19, 2009 6:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like his answer about the Ballpark
The Ballpark isn’t that huge of a hitter’s park like most believe it is and it definitely is not the reason why our pitching has been bad.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 19, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i still have faith in CJ.
hopefully he can pitch to his full potential this year
by Stevoo on Feb 19, 2009 6:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As far as being most important
I think that Francisco is probably more important than Wilson, because he is more physically gifted and therefore more likely to dominate in a late role. Wilson being healthy to go along with Francisco would be really nice, though.
Also, I have it in the back of my head that Holland has the potential to be one of those guys who is gifted enough that he has success from the get-go. If that’s even within the range of possibility, I think he’d be up there with McCarthy.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 19, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But Frankie will be there, he will be fine
What’s important is Wilson locking down the 8th, benefiting the rest of the bullpen.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's the thing
Francisco finished last year great, but I don’t think that you can look back at his career and conclude that he’s going to be a constant. There is a wide spectrum for what he could give you.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 19, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's our best bet
including starters
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Translation
he was good late last year so right now we have a good feeling about him.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 19, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine there is a little more to it than that.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just my comment
on tendencies around here.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 19, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I tried to learn from Robinson Tejeda
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't have to look any farther than C.J. Wilson to know that it only takes one offseason for a Rangers closer to come off his hinges.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 21, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair to Rangers closers
It could be said that CJ is/was an 8th inning LOOGY who got handed the job thanks to one of those “one year wonder” seasons in 2007.
Thing is Fx2 could turn out be the same damned thing, which was Z’s point.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by lonestarJon on Feb 21, 2009 5:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you can label cj as a "loogy " just yet. How this season plays out might be the determining factor.
Thankfully there are 4 guys who can close if they are healthy.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 21, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Francisco finished last year great, but I don’t think that you can look back at his career and conclude that he’s going to be a constant. There is a wide spectrum for what he could give you.
by zywica on Feb 19, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You watch too many movies Sax.
by oc on Feb 21, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel that way about Holland as well
I think Feliz is the guy that’ll take 2 years to start dominating, but Holland has the stuff (Main as well when he makes it) to be somewhat successful from the beginning. I hope we’re right about that
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 19, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Feliz
I’d guess that Feliz could be dominant right away in a relief role. If the team stays in the hunt, I’d guess Feliz is pitching in a bullpen ace type role by the ASB.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Feb 19, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Maybe not by the ASB, but if were in the hunt, with the rotation set, come August.. I can definitely see him helping, one way or another.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that he could be dominant in relief immediately
but I really don’t get the feeling that they intend to go down that path with him.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 19, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how many innings
what do you think the org’s target is for his innings?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Feb 19, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First
I don’t know, but I think that whatever it is, the plan involves starting that many innings. Second, I know that the Yankees had the plan to manage Joba’s innings and all, but I don’t really know that it’s fair to say that it’s a great way to manage them, because those innings can still stress a guy’s arm. Just look at all of the relievers who throw 70 innings in a season and get hurt.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 19, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my train of thought
was that “if they were in the hunt” and needed a shutdown reliever, and they had an in-house option in Feliz, then the temptation might be too much, especially compared to trying to trade for the bullpen piece.
I don’t know if using him every three to four days for a couple of innings per outing would be good for his development or not, I guess that is a case by case thing.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Feb 19, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Feliz threw a little over 130 innings last year
including the playoffs (not sure on the exact number). I can’t imagine the team worrying about limiting his innings until the end of July, early August. He probably could pitch a full season between Frisco and Oklahoma and be fine.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 19, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Has JD commented on this before?
Would be a good question for him.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At some point last season
I wondered if his future wasn’t in the pen. But there was a consistent message from the organization if you took their comments to others in the media that they view him as a starter, period. And they really haven’t been fond of giving guys who are starters all the way stretches in the pen to manage innings, etc.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 19, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
I’ve had the same thought. I think as soon as he gets on a run of 4-5 good to dominant starts in AAA, he will be starting in Arlington, and that could happen as soon as May. Like you say, he could possibly be one of those guys that can step right into being a #2 ML starter without missing a beat.
It’s fun to have some near ready pitching prospects that have real upside, I can see why nobody else will trade us one of these types for a catcher.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Feb 19, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Omar Vizquel
Do we care that he’s reporting late?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 19, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
no
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 19, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A bad report-mixup by Omar.
He is already there. Actually, I pointed out him being AWOL this afternoon, but the ST blog had him being there shortly thereafter.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 19, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really care
He’s an NRI so my guess is that if he wants a job, he’ll play his best. With someone like MY taking a while to get to ST, I’ll get a bit worried about their work ethic and willingness to do what is needed since they are getting paid anyways.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 19, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From the FWST:
I can stand right in front of you today and say that kid is going to be good for us this year without a doubt."
.
Manager Ron Washington, on the prospects of rookie shortstop Elvis Andrus
You lost Bradley and you seem like a bunch of arrogant sons of bitches, your pitching always sucks!!
by shroomer on Feb 20, 2009 12:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not to sound jaded
but that means almost nothing to me coming from Washington. I’m glad that he claims to like what he’s seeing, but for one thing Washington tries pretty hard to be positive, and for another I’m not sure that he has much of an eye for just how advanced Andrus is at the plate, particularly given that he’s only seen him (possibly) in AFL/winter ball and some camp BP.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 20, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"According to Washington, CJ Wilson and Brandon McCarthy
have been the most impressive pitchers in camp thus far…and they both have frayed labrums." Someone forgot to add the rest of the quote.
by bigskinny on Feb 20, 2009 8:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did I say labia, Carlos?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 20, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Washington: Wilson and McCarthy have the been the most impressive pitchers in camp thus far.
Translation: Our two biggest disappointments last year haven’t THROWN A GAME YET.
You watch too many movies Sax.
by oc on Feb 21, 2009 2:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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