Rosenthal: Mets close to a deal on Perez
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 2, 2009 12:35 PM CST
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Ken Rosenthal says the Mets are supposedly close to getting a deal done with Oliver Perez.
Although Rosenthal says that Randy Wolf is the Mets' primary backup plan to Perez (and that Perez going to New York would mean Wolf signing with the Dodgers), there's also the thought out there that Ben Sheets probably won't sign until Perez signs, since the Mets were the other team that showed a fair amount of interested in Sheets.
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TIME!
GET ME SOME FRESH SHEETS!
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by PM Productions on Feb 2, 2009 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come to us Mr. Sheets...
fight it all you want, but you will be pitching in Arlington in ’09.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 2, 2009 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1 Down, 0 Dominos to Fall...
Get it done
by slimshadty12 on Feb 2, 2009 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only two other options for Sheets besides Texas it seems now
are the Dodgers or the Brewers.
The Dodgers are looking like they are going to land Wolf, the Brewers want an incentive laden deal and supposedly Sheets isn’t to happy about how the team has treated him the off season. Looper looks like he stands a real good chane to go to the Orioles.
Sheets, you are running out of options.
I still say it is a 75/25 chance of getting a deal done, with only really the Astros as a possible dark horse. Outside of the 3 NL teams I have mentioned, I have hard time thinking of a possible landing spot for him.
by laxtonto on Feb 2, 2009 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s kinda sad that a pitcher has to run completely out of options before they sign with the Rangers. I’m a life long Rangers fan, but that’s embarrassing. It feels like things are changing for the better though. sips the kool aid slowly
"Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"-Tom Smykowski Office Space.
by Section 339 on Feb 2, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies
Weren’t they rumored to have interest in Sheets?
Also, Sheets seems like the type that the Cardinals have pursued in the past. I wouldn’t rule them out.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 2, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there is lots of talk in Baltimore about signing him
As time goes on, the options will increase for Sheets, as teams wake up out of their doldrums.
by SanDiegoKev on Feb 2, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SHEETS, HO
Scott Feldman for 2009 AL Cy Young
Scott Feldman for 2010 AL Scott Feldman
by Maximilian on Feb 2, 2009 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Poor Sheets
I really want him, but it sucks for him that his arm appears to be in such bad shape when he became a FA that no one wants to give him squat.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The fact Milwaukee is blowing him off is unsettling.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 2, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But
Isn’t the fact that Maddox still wants him somewhat reassuring?
by FuturePants on Feb 2, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
If anyone in Milwaukee should really have a good feel for it, it seems like it would be Maddux. Certainly not Melvin and certainly not your interim manager more than Maddux.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 2, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand...
if you were about to inherit this pitching staff, wouldn’t you advocate for any living, breathing starting pitcher that might be able to provide something above replacement level? I mean even if Maddux thinks there is only a very small chance that Sheets is ever healthy again, wouldn’t it be in his best interests to go ahead and push for him?
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 2, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Best part of the article
Free-agent right-hander Ben Sheets, another option for the Mets, could end up with the Rangers, but his talks with Texas have “less momentum” than they did 10 days ago, according to a source. The Rangers want Sheets only on their terms, the source said.
Sounds like JD is driving a hard bargin
by laxtonto on Feb 2, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah and I would assume with the Mets out
that Sheets wouldn’t have much negotiating power. It might be more beneficial for him to wait until June and sign with a team that really needs someone for the stretch run and for him to get healthy.
Saying that, I want the Rangers to sign him
Another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!
by NothinG on Feb 2, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How is getting a pro-rated contract better?
So he signs a 1 yr 12 million at the break (gets $6 million), instead of playing all year and getting all of a $8-$10 million deal?
by mattrpav on Feb 2, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather him sign at the start of the season and have a spring training to get ready
Sign him in June and you don’t have him until it might be too late. If you’re contending on June 1 and sign him, then go 1-9 on a road trip to BOS, NYY and TAM and add 60IP to your bullpen’s workload on that trip, suddenly things don’t look so good by the time Sheets joins you.
by Inkara1 on Feb 2, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Others interested?
If the Rangers are only willing to sign him at a very low price I don’t see why some other team couldn’t swoop and get the same bargain. Oakland, Dodgers, Brewers, I can think of several teams that might be able to convince themselves he’s worth it if he falls far enough.
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by t ball on Feb 2, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but that’s what makes me think his elbow is a bigger problem than we’re hearing. Otherwise, why on earth would LA not jump on him?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 2, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Once bitten...
Maybe they’re not over the Jason Schmidt contract yet.
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by t ball on Feb 2, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so
But this is almost half the price for a guy six years younger…
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 2, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he was an outfielder
they would already have signed him.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 2, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My only problem
is it’s been reported that one of the Rangers’ terms may be a one year deal.
And that’s a terrible idea.
by jthig32 on Feb 2, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
a one year deal is an awful idea. the point to signing Sheets would be to have him around for a possible playoff run in ’10 and an option for ’11.
Another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!
by NothinG on Feb 2, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My thinking is that they are only willing to gurantee one year with a second option year
Which, with as little leverage as Sheets has, might be the best he can get. I am not convinced it is a money issue, but instead a guaranteed/non guaranteed problem. My guess would be a 2 year deal with a reasonable low level buyout.
by laxtonto on Feb 2, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I read
Sheets wants 2 years and the Rangers want to do 1 with the 2nd year being a club option.
I think that’s the right thing to do.
by Coolbean04 on Feb 2, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's some merit to a one year deal...
1. They can sell the idea of winning this year.
2. If he does well, then why couldn’t we resign him? I know he’d come more expensive but knowing he succeeded with us is worth the extra money we’d have to pay.
3. If he gets hurt and is ineffective for us, we owe nothing for next year when we don’t want to be strapped for cash.
by slimshadty12 on Feb 2, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a terrible idea if it works.
I know I can’t name any other rumored team interested…
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 2, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard that the A's should have interest.
But I’ve never seen that they are interested.
"If I could breathe, I would vomit." - Ned the Pie Maker
by mtex on Feb 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they are reportedly interested in Looper
by Goyogringo on Feb 2, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As are the O's
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 2, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they were
but might not be after getting Rich Hill; I hope Oakland doesn’t get him for cheap. He’s the only other guy on the market after sheets and Wolf that is worth signing to Guar. money IMO though I would only go one year with him.
by Goyogringo on Feb 2, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Any word on what Looper's looking for?
$$ wise?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 2, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
havent heard any terms being tossed around
but you could get him for cheap i would imagine 1 yr for 3-5mill?
by Goyogringo on Feb 2, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard through a grapevine
that there’s quite a bit of interest in Sheets from Rangers management, but Tom HIcks, Jr. is putting up a fight against him. Not sure on the reasoning or how much sway his opinion holds to his father.
Thought i’d pass on the info.
"If I could breathe, I would vomit." - Ned the Pie Maker
by mtex on Feb 2, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And what grapevine...
is it that you are hearing this through?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 2, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
same one that Miles hears through!!!
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Feb 2, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I very much doubt that.
"If I could breathe, I would vomit." - Ned the Pie Maker
by mtex on Feb 2, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that I can't say.
That’s about all I know on the subject, but I’ll be sure to spread any more info I might get.
Take it for what it’s worth, I guess.
"If I could breathe, I would vomit." - Ned the Pie Maker
by mtex on Feb 2, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What if...
they can get a team option for 2010, and a player option for 2011. that sounds fair both ways. Then, imagine a rotation in 2010 of… Sheets, Millwood, Holland, Feliz, and Harrison, Hunter, McCarthy or whomever. Man, the first four of that rotation “could” be something to get excited about!
by brandallini on Feb 2, 2009 1:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like
the three year with multiple options framework for a deal with Sheets. It would need a lot of injury protection built into it, but if he’s healthy the options give the Rangers a chance to benefit for taking a risk.
Check the stats, absolutely, but look at the face.
-Bruce Jenkins
by BHill on Feb 2, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
3 y/$36m for Oliver
I hope Ben hasn’t been waiting to try and set his own market thereabouts.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/02/mets_reach_term.html
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 2, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How about this
We sign sheets to a 3 year deal.
1st year – 9M – bonuses due to IP can = to 12M total
2nd year – Club Option – 9M – bonuses can equal to 12M – 2M buyout
3rd year – Club Option – 9M – bonuses can equal to 12M – 1M buyout
Is that something he would be interested in?
by Coolbean04 on Feb 2, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets inevitable injury is going to be THE decision-maker in one of the top kids coming up.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 2, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Hunter or Tommy Diamond
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 2, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Diamond?
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 2, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Hunter?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 2, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Diamond Hunter?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 2, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter Thompson
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 2, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seeing as how Sheets is so risky nobody wants to touch him, I would imagine he'd pitch pretty good up until July, go on the DL and then one of Holland or Feliz will come up.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 2, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Diamond Hunter?
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 2, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A's Acquire Michael Wuertz:
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 2, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Note from Jamey
Just now indicates the Mets and OP have agreed to terms.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 2, 2009 1:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If Sheets doesn't sign with us by the end of tomorrow, I will have lost hope.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 2, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ed sobs quietly
into his pillow …
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Feb 2, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have
But his window for our fave team was probably 2003 – and once with the Mets, he didn’t leap forward the way I had thought. IOW I quit that romance a couple of years ago. Heh …. sometimes being jilted is a good thing.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 2, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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