Manuel Q & A
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 12:38 PM CST
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PrintRichard Durrett was able to get in a few questions for John Manuel in the aftermath of Baseball America's top 100. His answer on Main (thanks for asking that question Mr Durrett):
Q: How did Michael Main drop out of the top 100?
A: We all liked him. He's pretty athletic with a power arm. But he threw 59 innings last year and hasn't advanced past low Class A. It's a high standard. His durability was a question, so those were things that kept him out. I had him 71 on my personal list, by the way.
One of his other answers suggests that Main was right behind Beltre as a runner-up for the list. Something that I noticed in browsing their list is that there are several rankings that don't fit any of the three top 50s from Jim Callis, Will Lingo or Manuel. Someone in their room must have had some real outliers.
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That's pretty messed up
5 of the 6 ballots had Main and Beltre there but one guy was a hater. I bet Paul Thomas paid him off
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
It's Ben freaking Badler
Knowing what the other five generally think (including the three top 50s and Fitt’s thoughts) and how crazy he is on the top 20’s and 30’s he did, I’d guess he’s the one who jacked their list all up and excluded those two.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Inaccurate
Your assumption that I left Michael Main out of my top 100 is inaccurate.
by Ben Badler on Feb 24, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn
Put me in my place. :)
Thanks for clarifying. Now are you the one who made Brett Anderson jet past Madison Bumgarner? :)
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
He also joined Athletics Nation today
and made two comments over there so I would guess so.
Serenity now, insanity later.
-Lloyd Braun
by Kevin McBrayer on Feb 24, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
No problemo
I have a Google Alert set up for “Ben freaking Badler.” I’ll only speak for myself, but yes, I prefer Anderson to Bumgarner, mostly because of his track record of dominance, his proximity to the major leagues, a clean delivery and a more diverse array of above-average pitches. He has very few weaknesses.
Taking a page
from the Keith Law book, lurking and defending…
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
This is very good, and I welcome more.
It’s easy to contract “gottaberightous” on a strictly Rangers centric message board. I enjoy input/opinions from outsiders.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Oh, I agree
I think it’s very cool that they are checking fan comments on active blogs, seems smart.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
So its not you
Its not Fitt. Its not Manuel. It isn’t Callis either, right Z? So who is left?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I assume that it's not Lingo
since he already had his top 50 in, but maybe I’m wrong in that assumption. My other assumption was that Matt Eddy was the sixth guy. If it’s someone like Kary Booher, that would explain everything.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Uh-oh, I know what's gonna happen next!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
i just don't get brackman over main
i guess he just musta been hellaciously beastly in Hawaii…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
JAYPERS from IL
must be a relative of someone or something. He gets the Helen Thomas treatment in all of those chats.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
It annoys me
that there is a weird double standard regarding playing time and placement on the list. How can people say Smoak is the #23 prospect, while he, along with others on the list, have barely played at all in professional baseball, whereas they hold Main’s limited time on the mound against him.
I agree
Either greatly discount lower level players or don’t. They are clearly inconsistent with that factor here. I guess it’s explainable, though, when you just take the average of several lists. Manuel’s explanation doesn’t necessarily fit each guy’s reasoning. A couple of their writers do discount lower level guys heavily and a few don’t. So when you factor in opinions, there will be inconsisency.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
There is a difference
in being limited becuase of injuties and being limited because you were just drafted. Just a guess.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Playing Devil's advocate here for a moment:
There’s a difference between lacking pro playing time cause you’re a recent HS draftee who spent some time on the DL this year, and lacking pro playing time because you just got drafted out of college where you had absolutely zero injury history.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.
by thedirkatron on Feb 24, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
In contrast...
Most prospect writers are more concerned about arm injuries with pitchers still in the injury nexus. An injury like Main had should have little effect on his placement if he’s come back strong and effective (like he did). But that’s just if they stick to the notion that arm injuries are the limiting factor, not injuries in general.
So basically we have 9 of the top 105-110 prospects in baseball
Thats pretty freaking awesome considering where we were a mere couple of years ago
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
In addition
you have those nine and Borbon, and then there are 7-10 notable arms right in behind them. The combination of those two things is what makes the Rangers system, as it currently sits, special.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Also,
the Rangers have managed to assemble 3 different waves of prospects. It is truly impressive. Im very interested to see where Perez ends up next year.
by Michael Cave on Feb 24, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
It looks like Borbon was right there in the "Just missed" category with Main and Beltre
That gives the Rangers 10 guys in the top 105-110. I’d love to see how some of the other guys were ranked past that though.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Next year
put Main, Beavan and Borbon on the list. Anyone else?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
NeRa.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 24, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Beltre, NeRa, Ross, Kiker, Font, Boscan, plus Mr. Mystery '09 1st Round Draft Pick?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.
by thedirkatron on Feb 24, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Joseph Weiland.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Wieland*
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 24, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Tomato
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Tomauto
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Wieland
is going to jump way up a lot of lists this year. Also, I believe that Carlos Melo will be a surprise.
by Michael Cave on Feb 24, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
As they say it the meth business; greeds kills, brutha.
But I am right there with ya!
:)
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I think Borbon
will lose his eligibility this year
by Michael Cave on Feb 24, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt it
I don’t see him being up long enough. I think the only way hes up long enough to get 150 ABs is if a rash of injuries happens. The only guys I see losing their prospect status this year are Elvis, Teagarden, and Max. Holland will probably be like Price is this year. Has a decent amount of ML time but not enough to drop his status and thus will be a top 5 prospect next year.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hes already on this year
I think hes meaning guys not on the list currently that will make it.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
he meant neftali perez
of course
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 24, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
To me
it’s hard to predict what happens with all of those pitchers. Being a member of the top 100 is a pretty special thing for a pitcher, on average just over one per organization, so we shouldn’t take for granted that many if any of our second tier guys make that jump. But a few do have the potential.Font, Boscan and Neil Ramirez, the three that dirkaton mentions above, seem like the best possibilities, though one of the lefties or Wieland might have the game to do it.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 24, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
Idle thought
Aren’t those reasons for leaving off Main also reasons for leaving off Martin Perez, who threw only two more innings than Main and hasn’t advanced beyond short-season ball?
Perez wins on age and upside, I suppose. But that’s what popped into my head.
"There's a bailout coming but it's not for you." -- Neil Young
Well
He didn’t have the injury issues. Had Main not had his injury he would have had more innings. Perez got his in short season which makes sense. Plus the age thing.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
OT. Tuesday spring update, intrasquad results:
Andruw Jones had an RBI double in the first and a two-run homer in the fourth to lead Jackie Moore’s intrasquad club to a 4-1 victory. Jones ripped the first pitch he saw from Vicente Padilla of the left-field wall in the first to score Frank Catalanotto, and he connected to right field of Luis Mendoza three innings later.
Neftali Feliz struggled some in his first intrasquad appearance, though no ball left the infield. He didn’t retire any of the four hitters he faced: Michael Young had an infield hit; Josh Hamilton walked; Hank Blalock reached on an error as second baseman Joaquin Arias booted a potential double-play grounder; and Nelson Cruz walked to force in a run.
Mendoza also struggled. In addition to the Jones homer, he allowed a solo shot to Travis Metcalf.
— Jeff Wilson
And Wash video: link
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
You are a frickin machine, man
Where do you find the time?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 24, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
thats not really struggling...
Yes walking 2 of 4 batters is bad but giving up two ground balls that should have been outs one of which should have been a double play isnt struggling.
Make me wonder
If Young’s infield hit was to Arias. You know, the old hit the ball to short and run like hell. Without specifically saying so, reports seem to indicate Arias’ arm isn’t “there” yet.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 24, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Arias was the 2nd baseman
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Ahh OK thanks
I wondered if they’d try his arm on the left side.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 24, 2009 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
Hagadone
I don’t see him in the top 100. Interesting that he was Sox #2 prospect (I think Callis did the top 10), but didn’t make the 100.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
Doesn't look like he was that close either
Twelve lefties made the list and BA ranked him 19th at the position. You would guess that that would put him in the 140-160 range.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 25, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
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