Tuesday morning things
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 9:38 AM CST
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Jeff Wilson writes that a deal is just about done with Eddie Guardado on a one year minor league deal with incentives that could make it worth $3 million. This, of course, as Wilson notes, being a minor league deal, keeps room on the 40 man free should Ben Sheets decide to come to Texas.
Wilson also quotes Jon Daniels as saying the team would like to add some starting pitching depth, given Eric Hurley's season ending injury, and thus is continuing to talk to Jason Jennings' agent about a minor league deal.
Mike Hindman runs down the list of the remaining free agent starting pitchers, and the list is pretty motley. He suggests that Ben Sheets might be best served signing a one year deal, and re-entering the free agent pool next offseason, when there should be a paucity of free agent starters on the market.
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Paucity?
Fair enough…
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 9:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I, too, did a double-take on that one.
by PUNCHbrad on Feb 3, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a lawyer thing
it shows up in court opinions all the time; we can’t help it
by mjh on Feb 3, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah...
I’m just a lowly landman, which I have lawyers do everything but a paucity of my title opinions.
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"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good word
and needs to make a comeback.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 3, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AJM used it yesterday too
I need to think something lasts forever, and it might as well be that state of being that is a game; it might as well be that, in a green field, in the sun.
by WyoRanger on Feb 3, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Sheets
How does a one-year deal clear up his injury concerns? Maybe he doesn’t pitch his 198th inning and get hurt?
Dude is in his 30s. He is what he is. Ben Sheets is an injury risk.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If I'm Ben Sheets and have to go prove
myself and my health in a one year window, I’m going to call Billy Beane.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
If Oakland gets Ben Sheets
and he gives them 150 IPs, they might be a candidate to win 90 games in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This should be rec'd
even if it pisses ab off
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Shouldn’t his agent be doing that type of stuff
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 3, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're better off
with pictures, gdawg.
The clarity of your writing sucks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You win!
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 3, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a much better picture.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is was
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its an honest question
Why would a player call a GM to discuss that player going to that GM’s team? Isn’t that the whole reason players have agents?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 3, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why would you possibly justify that statement
You have two perfectly acceptable, grammatically correct sentences – and he dogs your clarity. Treat him like the mental midget that he is.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 3, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you tripped me up on grammatical
minutae. It’s somewhat implied that Ben Sheets has reps that make phone calls for him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
minor league deal
JD has done a good job of getting guys in here on minor league deals. Let them earn a job in ST.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Feb 3, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Earning a spot
I have not been a fan of this team’s willingness to allow players to force their way onto the 25 man roster based simply on spring training. Most notable is Sammy Sosa, but on the flip side, they did not allow Mench on the team, which to this day I am still surprised at. I just don’t think usong only Spring Training is a reliable enough litmus test for such a decision.
by FuturePants on Feb 3, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
give the Rangers FO some credit
I don’t think anyone is going to make the team on ST stats alone.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Feb 3, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus?
What about Visquel or Jennings (if we sign him)?
by FuturePants on Feb 3, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
adding to tball's comment below
For the veterans, the Rangers get to see them close up, they have time to evaluate their health and project their 2009 contribution. For someone like Andrus, they get the opportunity to see how he improves over 3 weeks of games. They get to evaluate his coachability, etc. I believe Washington and the Ranger FO have learned form the Matt Kata experience.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Feb 3, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're overstating that concern
Bringing a guy in on a NRI gives the team a lot more time to evaluate him, it’s not just about his ST numbers, it’s a ton of close up scouting time. And in the case of the Rangers they need depth right now so they aren’t forced to rush guys to the majors again.
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by t ball on Feb 3, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
perfect example
Franklyn German last year.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 3, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We had nothing better
did we?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If wes littleton is the answer
I don’t want to know what the questio is.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Feb 3, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The question is...
…who is a decent major league quality bullpen arm?
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is the question...
Person’s name who least resembles their 
appearance?
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep your images small please.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How?
Is there a way to shrink them down?
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Armando Galarraga
oh wait, we gave him away because there was no room on the roster, but then we went and created room on the roster for Franklyn German.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 3, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather have Armando Galarraga or the #1 farm system in baseball?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What kind of a question is that?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 3, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Both?
Is that the wrong answer?
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The two were not
exclusionary choices.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 3, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's just a question
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They made a bad decision
and those kinds of decisions could jeopardize the team’s chances to contend if they don’t handle the 40-man roster smartly as all this talent matures.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 3, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I’ll defend JD to the death to someone who doesn’t know too much about the Rangers, but deep down inside I know the mistakes made early in his regime cannot be repeated for us to succeed, and hopefully, when he look back, Armando will be seen as an isolated event.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pointless
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 3, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just a question in a vacuum
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
O's signed Wiggington for 2 years 6M.
Strange pick up for them. Look for somebody to get moved in a crowded OF situatuin. Aubrey Huff or Luke Scott to the NL? SD? or Atl?
by laxtonto on Feb 3, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's some thought that they'll play Huff at first.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Luke Scott's their DH this year too
If they signed Wiggington to DH…yikes.
by LiamP on Feb 3, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whose at 3rd?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they've got
Scott, Wigginton, Huff and Mora
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Feb 3, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yes, mora
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Mora's
at thrid, and then….? I guess Wigginton backs him up and slpits time with Scott at DH…I guess. Weird move.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 3, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unlesss
They flip Mora to the Twins or Giants for pitching.. Sanchez maybe.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mora for Jonathan Sanchez, not in your wildest dreams.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Better than Cantu for Sanchez
right?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
He’s on third now.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So
Each day that passes, does that favor the rangers signing Ben Sheets, or does it make it more unlikely that will we sign him?
by SaltyGoesYard on Feb 3, 2009 10:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think each day that passes means that the
medicals on Ben Sheets are worse than anybody thought.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Not so much that we haven’t signed him, but that there has been little to no interest from anyone else.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 3, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldn't Sheets go to a more friendly
park for pitchers when he needs to re-establish value and why wouldn’t teams (Oakland, LA Dodgers) who need pitching that play in those parks make Sheets an offer?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because they don't do what it takes to win
They’re on the Pirates payroll template
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 3, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't sign by today, I don't know how much more serious to take this.
It’s pretty obvious Daniels is sticking to a one-year offer only.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would JD stick to a one-year offer over a one-year/option offer?
Why are people afraid he’s only offering one year?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TR reported the Rangers only interested in 1 yr deal
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 3, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would JD stick to a one-year offer over a one-year/option offer?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe because it's bloody likely Sheets will land on the DL for an extended period of time.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, you sign Sheets, he's only going to give you a half-season. He's the guy whose injury will determine which of Holland or Feliz will get the call in the summer.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
but that is what TR reported.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 3, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A one year plus option deal...
…is more beneficial for the team than a one year deal without an option is.
I can’t imagine Daniels would say, we’ll do one year, but not one year plus an option.
Sheets is the one who wouldn’t want that.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm not being clear
I’m sure the team would do one year plus an option. Sticking to a one year deal doesn’t mean not being willing to do a team option.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again
Because it’s come up on the board a few times, why would JD do a one-year deal without the option if he has leverage?
People seem worried he’s going to leave out the option.
One year with a team option is the best-case scenario. I predict JD will get it, or a two-year deal.
Ben Sheets doesn’t appear to have enough leverage to get a straight one-year deal.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Sheets won't sign a one year deal with an option
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Sheets doesn’t appear to have enough leverage to get a straight one-year deal.
Because it’s been mentioned today, Oakland is now talking about putting money into Orlando Cabrera.
Maybe they’re tied up with paperwork on that, but then they’re going to call Casey Close.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the issue was never about a team option
it was about a vesting option. is that what you mean?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 3, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No?
The only thing I see on LSB is hand-wringing about a one-year deal.
Vesting options and team options are the same thing here. If he performs well the team gets him another year.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But is anybody else making a better offer?
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if they aren't
his elbow must be completely uninsurable.
by SteveP on Feb 3, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Garland, Oliver Perez, and Brad Penny…all employed for 2009 before the starter for the NL All-Star team.
It’s not about other teams’ choices.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If JD is only offering a 1 year deal
then someone explain to me why Sheets would take that to pitch in Arlington? Unless his medical report is really that bad. Hey, maybe they can hold out and get him on minor league deal??
by SteveP on Feb 3, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
There is some thought that he’ll get more money here than elsewhere, he lives here, and he would continue working with Mike Maddux, who he apparently has a very good relationship with.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He also may not be getting other offers. Roster deals, let’s say.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Julio Borbon in CF this year?
Any chance Borbon gets called up this year with the Rangers wanting to move Hamilton to RF?
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Of course there's a chance.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell not?
If you’re motivation for moving Young to 3B and plugging in Andrus at SS is because you want to “get all your championship caliber players lined up together”, why not roll with Borbon in the OF if this year is not about contending?
Borbon would be a better hitter than Andrus in The Show this year if given a chance.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be surprised...
…if he isn’t the starting CF’er by, say, August.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Borbon with the big club
means a whole lot of wheeling & dealing by Jonnny Donuts.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Byrd gets dealt. That’s about it.
Cruz or Hamilton goes to LF, Murphy to 4th outfielder.
Or Cruz falls on his face, gets released, and Borbon gets called up, and you have Murphy and Byrd in a platoon of sorts.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Borbon becomes the every day CF
in August that means …
Josh goes to RF/LF.
Cruz either proves he is an every day player or is dealt.
I think you keep Boggs because he is younger, less expensive and has more upside.
Cat, Byrd & Murphy all get dealt.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cat is a nullity
He’s either here as the 25th man, or given away to a team that will pay $1 million of his salary.
Murphy and Byrd don’t have to both be dealt to make room for Borbon, particularly if Cruz flames out.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cat's contract...
If they could get someone to take on $700,000 of the contract it would be pretty well worth the extra roster spot.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean to say
released. I doubt any team picks up $1 million for a bad platoon DH. You can get a AAAA player to do what Cat does.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Feb 3, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
veteran experience
Maybe some team down the stretch will want to add that to their team. One can hope.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 3, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Nullity" or not, Cat's here.
and was in the OF last year for 26 games. He’s a part of the roster shuffle I’m discussing that’s going to be needed if Borbon starts playing with the big club every day.
I imagine at sometime the Rangers are also going to want to see if CDavis can move to the OF as well if Smoak is all that.
The current Texas OF situation is a star (Josh), a good prospect (Borbon) and cluster-F of question marks and mediocrity.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
A Byrd/Murphy platoon is a pretty good solution to one COF spot.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 3, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it, though?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After hearing Nolan's comments about Murphy
over the weekend, it sounds like he’s not going anywhere.
If the Rangers were a definitive 90 win team with a chance to contend I could see having Marlon Byrd on this roster but we’re not and he’s just taking abs away from players who may be here if this thing ever gets turned around.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd
The draft pick he nets us could become a player that is around when this thing gets turned around. You got to play him to get that draft pick
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Feb 3, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boggs will be in AAA
He has no bearing on whether Borbon gets called up.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Feb 3, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AAA, where he
belongs.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 3, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Cruz belongs in Japan or something.
by FuturePants on Feb 3, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cruz would be the MVP in japan
however since he can still be good here, he will have to wait.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Feb 3, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Can still be good"
I don’t disagree with you. Just like Jason Jennings can throw 3 no hitters this season with a 2.98 ERA on the year and Richie Sexson can hit .320.
by FuturePants on Feb 3, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts...
Exactly, Cruz, Hamilton and Borbon give you enough defensive upside if Borbons offensive production lacks.
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he can put up
an ops of ~.800 in OKC then I think he is the CF in August.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Feb 3, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: White Sox have apparently offered Abreu a one year, $8 million dollar contract
Not only did KW say the White Sox were done dealing this offseason, but they’ve got to trade someone now, don’t they?
Hopefully, this isn’t a precursor to a Dye to Texas deal.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Feb 3, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good article over at
USS Mariner talking about the team they built (mostly around defense) in 2003.
http://ussmariner.com/2009/02/02/the-template-for-success-in-2009/
Not sure what to think about that approach although I loves me some defense. Yes they ended up with a 93-69 record but…
They play in a pitcher’s park and that particular team had a great start (48-22 on June 18) but were below .500 (45-47) the rest of the season. I think the major problem may have been that their players all grew old at the same time and not that they chose to build their team around defense.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 10:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Diamond on XM now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
please give a recap.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 3, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Feb 3, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He said
he missed Danks & Eddy V but loves him some Josh.
Talked about TJ surgery, had conversations with Nolan who stressed to him the importance of getting over the mental hump (“telling your brain to just let go of what happened in the past”).
It took 1.5 months of games to stop worrying about his arm.
His conditioning this off-season was the best it has ever been. Has been working out in Arlington and dropped 23 lbs.
Starting pitchers have to be prepared to go more than 6 IPs. Feels like he can do it in Texas because he grew up in Nawlins and doesn’t think there is any difference in DFW.
He is a new dad as well…son named Colton James.
Holds Nolan in supreme reverence “One of the best guys I’ve ever met in baseball. He’s very approachable. Nolan came up to speak with every pitcher on the team during their winter warm-up and made himself very available.”
Mike Maddux wants pitchers to go deeper and is pounding this into their mentality.
Pitch counts – Says the hitters will let you know when you’ve reached your pitch count. If you’re still missing/breaking bats, you’re not at your pitch count.
The way to get around the patience of batters is to keep throwing strikes. Talked about players in the Oakland minor league system and the way to combat those teams is to get on top of them, especially throwing strike one.
Diamond said as a youngster he read countless books about pitching when he was younger. He played all sports when he was younger but told his dad one day that he wanted to be a pitcher. He read “The Mental Game of Pitching” (I have no idea who wrote it). Said both he and his dad read those books and they tried to implement something from each chapter they read into his pitching. Dad would paste little sayings on his bathroom mirror or in his room.
Apparently he is into cooking as well. His best dish is bbq shrimp or steak and sauteed mushrooms.
Has it worked out with his wife where he takes care of Colton in the mornings and he has afternoons to work out. He gets to sleep early at night but takes care of the kiddo in the mornings while the wife sleeps. Says it is going to be tough when he is Arizona next week.
He did well and sounds like a good guy.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 3, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the recap.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Feb 3, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so...
he missed Danks & Eddy V but loves him some Josh.
no mention of BMac, huh?
by clark on Feb 3, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hes never been in the minors with BMac
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Feb 3, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Diamond developed quite the gut
during his rehab, looked about 40 lbs heavier. He probably still has about 10-15 lbs to go to get down to 225.
by Goyogringo on Feb 3, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why Diamond losing that much weight
wasn’t discussed by anybody in the local media?
I know he fell off the radar screen a little bit but jeeeez, we found out that McCarthy gained 25 lbs in four months and that Millwood has also dropped some weight as well.
23 lbs is fairly significant.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 3, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
with Grant off the beat
there really isn’t anybody to report little nuggets like that. TR seems to just publish whatever the team spoonfeeds him and the guys at FWST have never really impressed me with being tied into what is going on.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
by tricer on Feb 3, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NM
Ch. 175
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 3, 2009 11:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
OT: Arshavin to Arsenal saga finally ends on a good note
YAY
by Brett Perryman on Feb 3, 2009 11:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Finally
Good for them. Bit of a sting for Tottenham too, that Arshavin will make his debut at White Hart Lane
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 3, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Will be interesting to see how quickly he can blend in. They really need him to hit the ground running.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 3, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bargain if the reported fee is true
If the fee is 10mm rising to 12mm, that’s so much more reasonable than the 20mm being bandied around earlier.
You guys need to poach Yaya Toure in the summer :)
by LiamP on Feb 3, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Grant Balfour?
Good to see that Steve Phillips is still overvaluing Tampa pitchers.
by LiamP on Feb 3, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
According to fangrapsh
He was one of the more valuable relief pitchers in the game.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, last year
When he put together the best season (by far) in his career at the age of 31.
All projections have him (and his 233 BABIP among other things) regressing pretty significantly.
Taking him and his $1mm+ salary in r9 of this type of draft is crazy.x
by LiamP on Feb 3, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Steve
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Feb 3, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, LSB broke
Was meant to be a reply to the post below.
by LiamP on Feb 3, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
he won’t make the Tottenham derby.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 3, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I'm sure he will be
For Arshavin I believe the issues are his work visa and fitness. Obviously neither is a problem for Keane.
by Brett Perryman on Feb 3, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rounds 6-10:
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 3, 2009 11:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rob Neyer has post up about the Rangers wanting to move Hammy to right.
"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.
by Kinslerhomer on Feb 3, 2009 12:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Right on.
t ball would argue that Hamilton is due to improve this year as a centerfielder but he wasn’t much better in Cincinnatti, and at his age I don’t know that he’s cut out to keep playing there.
This is what I’ve been preaching since the offseason started. Put Hamilton in right, Byrd in center. Byrd is the perfect one-year stopgap for Borbon.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 3, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with Hamilton
is that he simply hasn’t played that much in CF. He has the speed and athleticism to play anywhere on the field and I do think that giving him more playing time and him gaining that additional in-game experience would be huge for him. I can understand if the team doesn’t want to take the risk and would rather just go with the more sure thing, but I still think Hamilton could adjust and be just fine in CF.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Feb 3, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In more detail, though, I would say
Hamilton might improve a bit as he plays more after being out of baseball so long, but in the long run he’s not a CFer and needs to move to RF. I’m fine with him being in CF this year until Borbon is deemed ready. I disagree with Neyer that Byrd can’t play CF, at least in the short term. Hopefully Borbon keeps drawing walks and getting his glove ready from April-July and makes himself the obvious choice then.
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by t ball on Feb 3, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From fanshot
I can’t really find anything new in there, but yeah.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 3, 2009 4:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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