Sullivan: Rangers rotation stays as-is
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 5, 2009 3:41 PM CST
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PrintT.R. Sullivan says that with the 2 year deal with Ben Sheets falling apart, the Rangers are going to stand pat on their rotation.
Jason Jennings is apparently likely to end up signing a minor league deal, and someone else may end up being an NRI, but otherwise, the rotation is what it is.
And we've got a quote from Jon Daniels:
"I think if our veterans stay healthy and our young guys improve, we will be all right," Daniels said.
That's probably true. But of course, we've been saying that, it seems like, for 10 years around here.
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Ugh
This sucks, but at this point in time, staying pat is probably the right course of action. Perhaps there will be a catcher trade in ST.
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Well, only kind of
We did sign him, he just didn’t pass the physical.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
by LSJ on Feb 5, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Debatable.
The two sides were close to agreement on a two-year deal, according to a major-league source, but they already had concerns regarding the right-handers’ checkered health history. It is believed that the physical examination revealed the tear and caused the Rangers to scotch the deal.
So, was “the framework” of a deal done? Isn’t that the verbage teams always use, pending the physical, after a contract is ageed to – especially for a player with injury concerns?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I'm more worried about the bullpen.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I'm not.
We’ve got a solid closer and a bunch of cheap interchangeable arms to throw at the wall.
If just two of those other guys (Chris-John, Eddie, Turnbow, Rupe, Madrigal, Gabbard, Nippert, etc.) step up and have good seasons, we’ll be fine.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
That's how I feel
There are a lot of arms they can throw at the wall to see who sticks for the bullpen.
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This, +1, wreck or whatever I should say here to point out that I agree
The bullpen has a lot of question marks, but it shouldn’t be too hard to find some decent arms. It won’t be enough to carry a crap rotation like in 04 or 07, but there is a very small chance it is as terrible as last year’s.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Does Nippert get another shot
in the rotation in 09? I’d like to see it
by groundingout on Feb 5, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
As long as there is an opening before June.
It sounds like JD would want Holland to get a shot as soon as he is ready which might not be later than June.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I hope so
But I get the feeling someone you didn’t list will have to step up as well.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
dang
we haven’t been healthy in 10 years? gollly…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
this has been
the saddest offseason i have ever experienced. i can already tell you that the hype around this team among casual fans will be none existent as the season approaches.
Absolutely!!
Nolan has a lot of work to do to get butts in the seats. Right now, no one but us true Rangers fans give a shit about this team and it won’t change until they can do something to get their name in the news.
I’m so pissed the Rangers have done nothing to improve this team.
t ball on MY - "hate the contract, don't hate the player"
but see, they have
the Mike Young move was HUGE. may not pay dividends for another year, but it was huge. I didn’t expect it until 2010 at the earliest. and the Laird trade wasn’t splashy, but we got two intreaguing arms for a catcher that clearly didn’t fit here anymore. plus, at the end of the day, I really like the Turnbow signing. and getting guys like CJ and maybe Diamond back healthy, I think, will have a huge impact. Plus, Holland and possibly Feliz arriving will be much bigger than, say, a Ben Sheets signing for the future of this team, health questions considered even before the news today.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:36 AM CST up reply actions
Defense
That’s true, the team did not sign anyone of huge importance, but they made moves to improve the defense of the team in the short and long term. Moving Young, and planning to move Hamilton within the next year are two smart moves that may not pay immediate dividends but help the team soon. I expect catcher/pitcher defense to be improved also, since last year seems kind of freakish in that way.
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Hype doesn't sell tickets. Winning sells tickets. As long as we're building towards a winning ballclub going forward (which I truly believe we are) I could give a crap about how much hype there is among casual fans.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
yeah I'm not too worried about the casual fans...or Hicks' wallet for that matter
but at the end of the day, we all want the same thing: a winning product. if we come out and challenge for the AL West this year, GREAT. But if we play .500 ball or worse, even with the “big picture” in mind, I might start drinking like HurlerHurley
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions
Sigh...
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
at this point
I’d much rather just roll out there with Padilla, Millwood, and 3 of the younger guys rather than go get someone on a minor league deal.
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
Maybe we should all just stop posting stuff about how nothing is changing.
That would be great.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
Nothing.
I think that’s the point I was getting at. I’m tired of reading crap and getting my hopes up only to have them shot down and the team remain stagnant. It’s getting annoying.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
Technically speaking, unless there's a trade or a signing...
You’re right, you DO have nothing to post about.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
it's a coffee table book...
about coffee table books
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:39 AM CST up reply actions
be realistic then
every1 on earth knew that the only reason sheets even considered us over the mets or any of these other teams was b/c he was damaged goods, then you get 5-8 fools on here that totally ignore that fact and get 40 or 50 excited. then its spread like a plague.
next will be OC and Co. trade 3+ prospects for halladay. Get On Board!!! CHOO CHOO!!!!!
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Pitching improvement
RE: “I think if our veterans stay healthy and our young guys improve, we will be all right,” Daniels said.
I’ve been saying that since 1989. You’d think that the law of averages would dictate that I’d be right eventually, but the Rangers’ curse is too strong.
I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.
Not like they have many options.
I don’t know of any bigtime pitchers available for trade, and the list of free agents, with Sheets officially declared injured, is pretty much non-existant.
My guess is we see another dozen or so starters this year.
Get off my lawn.
Maybe Halladay in a mid season trade
He’s signed through 2010 and the Jays would want a Teixeira like haul, but it’s a possibility.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
when you've got a Rich fu$%ing Hill trade like the one that went down...
I’d say SOMETHING could have been done.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:40 AM CST up reply actions
The guy is committed
Credit JD for going with in-house solutions.
And the fact he couldn’t move a catcher to two alleged trade partners shows it’s a not unheard of philosophy, at least with pitching.
Go Strangers.
"credit JD for going with in-house solutions"
That would be much easier if there were better in-house solutions.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
in fact
what we have in-house fall under “problems” more than “solutions”.
"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve
We’ll be seeing a lot more possibilities, even just in-house ones, in 2009. Bet on it.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 5, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
might as well use 09 to figure out who out of this last tier or mediocrity
deserves to stick around…
that was always my plan.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
at least this year, you can count on a lot of things happening
that wouldn’t have happened in the past few years:
1) arrival of top-notch pitching talent in multiple waves: Holland, Feliz, Hunter, Diamond
2) arrival of top-notch defense at key positions: Andrus, Borbon, Smoak
3) arrival of an exciting, young defensive wiz of a catcher that can make the pitchers better and has pop at the plate to match: Teagarden
4) several offensive players that are clearly better than the FOTF: Hamilton, Kinsler, Davis, perhaps even Saltalamacchia and Max Ramirez
very young talent coming through in addition to Boggs, Madrigal, Harrison and Hurley (even though he’s lost for the year) that we haven’t seen come at such a quick pace as in the past.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
Well, that’s just like, your opinion, man
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
i think 'count on' is a bit of an overstatement
some of those things will surely happen this year, like andrus and holland coming up, but the dividends probably wont be immediate. some of those things wont happen till 2010 probably. but just getting the ball rolling is good. its exciting to have so many talented young guys that will be getting ML experience soon.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Feb 6, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
that's my point
I am not EXPECTING to be a great team this year…I hope it happens, but I’m just saying instead of plugging veterans into positions for the sake of fielding a decent team (Sosa, Jennings as our # 3 starter, etc.) we’ve got young guys out there hungry to learn and a chance to finally do it
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
What else are we gonna do?
All the other FA’s would be subtraction by addition, so unless we’re willing to pull the trigger on a deal with Boston we’re stuck with what we’ve got. As usual.
But I’m not gonna worried about it – 2009 just isn’t the year.
Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.
It's about time
For the Rangers’ newest promotion- “Fan Pitch Fridays.”
Every Friday home game, the Rangers pick a half-dozen random fans out of the stands, and use them as the staff that night.
It can’t be that much worse than what they already have, and it’ll save some wear and tear on the bullpen.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
You joke
but tell me the sight of this mug running out to the mound wouldn’t scare the bejeebus out of opposing hitters
And then he would just drill a couple of guys in the ear-hole.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Feb 5, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
No, you drill 'em in the butt
right, Norm?
by Anonymous New Guy on Feb 5, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Well he's just poured into that wife beater, now isn't he?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
Generally I'd say the sexy-lady reactions tend to be somewhere in between "abject horror" and "OMG, WTF!?"
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
Try greeting them
with a different expression than that in the picture below.
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No way, Jose.
Joey Tribbiani : “How you doin’?” :: The Dirkatron : That sexy tongue-out look I’m sporting in the pic below.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 7, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Just for you.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I hate Michael Young.
"There are no weak opinions with the dirkatron, it’s all scream-across-the-parking-lot echelon." -hightowersmith
by thedirkatron on Feb 5, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
just like me...
I don’t think I’ve ever taken a serious photo.
but at the same time, I’ve never been able to grow my hair out that long
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:47 AM CST up reply actions
As long as they are, headhunting attractive, female fans who are itching for a fight.
I have nothing to say
Good luck
>>>"I think if our veterans stay healthy and our young guys improve, we will be all right," Daniels said.<<<
The one thing we know to be true in baseball is that some veterans get hurt and some prospects don’t improve.
This is why I’ve been so down on 2009 and 2010 Rangers from a probability standpoint. In order for this team to be good in 09 everything has to go just right. Sure it can happen. But almost always a few things go worng and frequently plenty of things go wrong.
we will be alright
alright isnt good. its OK. we will be OK
just not good.
and that should be realistic and not a shock to fans for 09…
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
I wish it was opposite day.
"Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"-Tom Smykowski Office Space.
Then we'd all be women.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 5, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
yes
you make a great point.
"Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"-Tom Smykowski Office Space.
Was that Cruz who just hit a homer for the Dominican?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Star Telegram and DMN
This was the first time since they announced their merger (and the transfers of a few of their beat writers) that I noticed how thin their Ranger coverage had gotten. Kinda sucks…Good work by T. R. though…
Click Here for Hot Rangers Blog Love
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
Definition
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Also see Texas Rangers pitching staff.
I don't know why
but that’s the 3rd time in the last two weeks somebody has defined insanity to me…with the same exact words
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Feb 6, 2009 1:48 AM CST up reply actions
Thank goodness
Jason Jennings signed a minor league deal with us. I was worried we’d have a patchy starting rotation this year.
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