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So with the news that Andruw Jones is going to accept the Rangers offer, the OF picture is obviously a little more curious. The Rangers now have Hamilton, Cruz, Byrd, Murphy, Jones, and Catalanotto in the mix to start the year and Boggs, Borbon, and Golson will be sitting at OKC waiting for their shot later this year or in 2010. Doing a little bit of math that means the Rangers could have 9 guys trying to find playing time in the OF somtime this year. We all have our preferences as to how we would like to see this play out. Here's my best guess:

 

Hamilton - Obviously the one guy there is no question about. If healthy he will start every day, the only question is where? Does he start in CF or move to a COF spot early in the year? Having guys like Byrd and Jones would not only allow him to move to RF/LF but also give him a day off against a tough LH pitcher. I still think he will start the year in CF. I would put him in RF and leave him there for a long time. Starting this year.

 

Cruz - He will probably be given one of the COF spots to start the year. He should be an everyday guy 'til he proves one way or another if he can produce in the bigs. He will have a short leash though. If not producing when starting for a couple months he could be gone. My guess is that he will start in RF if he does well he stays, if not then he will be gone with Hamilton moving to RF.

 

Byrd - The guy has earned a spot with his performance the last couple of years. The only problem is he doesn't really fit into the teams long-term plans. He can play all 3 OF spots pretty well and will probably platoon with Murphy as it stands right now. My guess though is that the Rangers are looking at moving him sometime soon.

 

Murphy - I'm not a big fan of David Murphy. I feel at best he should be a platoon player. I would also like it if the Rangers tried to move him in a deal for pitching. I don't think they are going to do that though. My guess is that he's the starting LFer against RH pitching.

 

Jones - This is a low risk move imo although many may not like it because he could take playing time away from guys that will be here past this year when it's likely he won't be. He's a huge ? right now. If he plays his way into the OF mix though he will have had to perform pretty well and I don't see that as a bad thing. My guess is that he takes the last spot on the roster at the expense of...

 

Catalanotto - Frank has been nothing but a class act since he basically stopped playing at all last year. He really is a guy without a spot or role on this team right now and I think he will eventually be cut loose. Hopefully he can catch on somewhere as a LH PH hitter off the bench, maybe with a NL team somewhere.

 

Boggs - I really like Brandon Boggs and think he could be a quality ML OFer. He should start everyday at OKC and depending on how well he does there he could force the Rangers hand into to dealing Byrd or Murphy. If Boggs can produce as well as either of them he is more valuable imo because he plays good defense and is under team control longer than Byrd. Also being a switch hitter he won't have the issues with LH pitching like Murphy does. He should be up in Sept., or sooner if there are injuries.

 

Borbon - He's coming fast. Hopefully he has a great year at OKC and will force his way into a Sept. call up, maybe sooner. When he does arrive he should be the starting CFer and will force Hamilton to a COF spot. I'm pretty excited about the idea of his defensive ability in CF.

 

Golson - Greg probably has the biggest uphill climb to make it into the OF mix this year. I think he will spend the entire season in OKC and if he performs well he very well could be a trade piece. If he struggles he could be in AAA for some time. I'm not really sold on him but a strong performance at OKC could obviously change my mind.

 

My guess is that to start the year the Rangers go with Byrd/Murphy in LF, Hamilton in CF, and Cruz in RF with Jones on the bench and spelling Hamilton from time to time and DHing against LH pitching. Discuss...   

Poll
Do you like the addition of Andruw Jones to the Rangers OF mix?
Yes
83 votes
No
49 votes

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yes

low risk, high reward

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Feb 8, 2009 2:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cat

For everybody who always bitches about Cat being here this is the perfect time to cut him oose and keep Jones if he is capable. Jones is a RH bat off the bench which we desperately need. He can be a defensive sub late in games if hes not playing. And if he does return to his form from a couple years ago then we got a hell of a steal.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 8, 2009 2:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I doubt that Jones...

…sticks as a bench bat. I think he’d exercise his escape option if he isn’t going to start.

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 8, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Depends

Depends what the landscape around the league is. If some team was willing to give him a startin job I don’t think he would have accepted a minor league contract and NRI from Texas. Now if he has a good spring and some guys around the league go down with injuries then sure he may feel he could go somewhere else and play a more prominent role but if not I think a RH bench bat who can play good defense in CF is a good guy to have on our bench.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 8, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't be his choice

I doubt those options allow the player to walk unless the team doesn’t put him on the roster.

by JPenn on Feb 8, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Can Andruw Jones become

 another Gagne or Lofton? Nah, I doubt it. Could Rudy help him regain his power stroke so that he could fill our hole at right-handed power hitter? Or will Cruz, Byrd and Maximiliano eliminate that hole anyway?

"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer

by rodcarew on Feb 8, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

MaxRam...

nees to be catching at OKC everyday the entire season. I also wouldn’t mind seeing Boggs, Borbon, and Golson staying in OKC the entire season, or ’til Aug/Sept anyway.

I just see this as an insurance move for Cruz not performing in the first couple months. I also think that JD is still trying to get pitching and he perhaps hopes that one of Byrd/Murphy along with one of the catchers could get him a nice arm. If it doesn’t happen then so be it.

Like you suggest I don’t see Jones becoming a Gagne/Lofton type signing that can be flipped. Although it would be nice.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 8, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Needs to be an option for "Meh"

But I’ll vote yes, since I don’t really dislike the move (yet). I can see the rationale behind it, but I’m not to excited about it.

Yeah. Spies. They're little guys with beady eyes and long fingernails. They plant bugs that can pick up the hush of a man's heartbeat - or the whisper of a falling hair.

by lonestarJon on Feb 8, 2009 2:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If they had a meh option

i’d vote for it too.

I think Young is done. However, its an NRI. I’ve never understood the wringing of hands or gnashing of teeth over NRIs.

Get off my lawn.

by DJCahill on Feb 8, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL - I think Young is done.

Freudian slip Dan?

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Feb 8, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

you caught me.

Get off my lawn.

by DJCahill on Feb 8, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

freudian slip?

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Feb 8, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

let's put it this way

we were looking at signing him for what, 2 years, $36 million, based on maybe what the Dodgers paid? two years ago? he goes to a horrible offensive park, puts up even worse numbers, and isn’t worth a dime of that contract. we pay him what, less than a million? maybe a few million if he makes the roster? with a chance to get some kind of production? and MAYBE a chance if he revives his career to flip him for SOME kind of compensation?

I’m on board.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 8, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I like it pending 2 things

1) He has to legitimately earn the spot in ST
2) Its not Cruz that loses significant at bats

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Feb 8, 2009 4:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cruz

Has already proved he sucks in the majors.

You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader

by iorange555 on Feb 8, 2009 4:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cruz

Needs to not have any pressure on him. Sounds ridiculous for a professional athlete, but he really needs an entire year in which he is just allowed to PLAY. Again, it makes no sense, but he really just needs to play without the worry of losing his job.

by rothe on Feb 8, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Then he probably should go to Japan

If a little pressure makes him shrivel up then hes not a major leaguer.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 8, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah we already sent

Bottsu to Japan. That’s all they get for a while. And in reality, the whole Hamilton thing that Jason pointed out is a dither. What if Cruz tops the team in SLG and OPS+ ? Still want to swap him for ricecakes?

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Feb 8, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cruz

Im all for him succeeding. But my response was to rothe who suggested he needs to be coddled and not have any pressure on him. Screw that. He hasn’t done anything to deserve being such a lock that there is no pressure on him. Hell Hamilton has pressure on him. If he shrivels up under even the most minute pressure then hes not a major leaguer.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 8, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No,

He just needs some time. Some time without the worry of losing his job. It sounds ridiculous but he needs to know that he is a regular player no matter what.

by rothe on Feb 8, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Cruz

Hes had time. Hes 28 years old. Hes not a prospect anymore. He had a good month and a half last year in the majors. I think he deserves at least the start of 09 to show if it was for real or a fluke like in the past. But he is not good enough, or have enough skins on the wall to be coddled enough to not have any pressure on him like you said he needs. If he can’t perform with a little pressure on him then hes not a major leaguer plain and simple. Do you want that type of player up in September in a playoff elimination game with the game on the line? Think theres any pressure in that situation?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 8, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jones is more likely to be

Nevin than Lofton.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Feb 8, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

And I agree with that...

but I just don’t see the reasoning behind not giving him a shot to prove it one way or the other. It’s just a minor league deal.

Another thing I hadn’t thought about ‘til now is that maybe the Rangers don’t think Murphy will be healthy enough to play everyday when the season starts. I thought I read somewhere that he was still having some issues, but if the season started today he could play. Perhaps they think he will need a little more time at the start of the season to be fully healthy. Even still, the Rangers would have had plenty of guys to cover him before signing Andruw but… Just thinking out loud.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Feb 8, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And that's the one point I would make

if I only could make one point.

This is a TRYOUT. It’s not like we’re committing to him right away. Nor are we giving him lots of money to do so. We’re trying him out.

R

by Requiem on Feb 8, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a problem with a tryout

I have a problem with him making the team as long as we get like 3 or 4 injuries or trades to our OFs.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 9, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Boggs is 26 years old right now.

He needs to play in The Show this year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Feb 8, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and

Andruw is 31 with a track record of being an ELITE outfielder, so if he can go back to that form why not bring him back, Can you imagine the possibility of having a healthy outfield of Hammy, Cruz, and Andruw all in there prime, and all healthy, holy crap nobody would even think of taken an extra base and any ball in the air would be a routine fly ball lol

by blueballlefty on Feb 8, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why Boggs

If he were 26 and a good player then he would need to be in the show this year. Unfortunately he is only one of those two and the fact that he is already 26 makes is increasingly unlikely that he will become the other. I don’t understand why Byrd doesn’t fit in long term as a guy who can play every day in stretches when needed and otherwise as fourth outfielder. Great in the club house, plus hitter, can field every outfield position, what more could you want?

by Dalman on Feb 9, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Byrd

Joseys right partly in Byrd personally doesn’t fit in long term here. But based on the last couple years he has earned significant playing time and by playing him we either can opt to trade him for a prospect who would be here long term or when he departs in FA we get a draft pick that could be here long term. Simply sitting or platooning him him does absolutely no good.

Boggs is a meh player to me. I think his one good year in AA and all the love guys like Newberg gave him pumped his value up more than it should have. Last year had he spent the majority of the season in AAA then maybe my opinion would have changed but by bringing him up so early in the season and him not getting alot of playing time i think seriously stunted his development.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 9, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i think he is this years Sosa or Bradley

Comes into TBIA and belts 35+ HR’s 90+ RBI’s and plays great defense. Then signs a multi-year deal in NY or Boston next year.

by mrichardson70 on Feb 9, 2009 12:59 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

odds

70-30 he is more like Sosa

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Feb 9, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

you just compared 2007 sosa to 2008 bradley. your posting priveleges should be revoked

by Fireal20 on Feb 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

09 lineup if Jonesy pans out at all

kinsler 4
young 5
ham bone 9
cruz dh
jones 8
davis 3
murphy 7
teabags c(like him more than salty) 2
andrus 6

or, we could put Cruz in lf and dh blalock/or salty. there seem to be quite a few options.

by brandallini on Feb 11, 2009 8:34 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

So I take it

you think Byrd gets traded? There is also no way that Cruz will DH.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 11, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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