Clarifying what the Dodgers would pay Andruw if he makes the Rangers

by Adam J. Morris on Feb 8, 2009 9:03 PM CST

Just found out that the Dodgers get HALF of whatever he makes with the Rangers. So, if he maxes out on his incentives and receive a total salary of $1.5 million from Texas in 2009, the Dodgers will get $750,000 of that, meaning they would owe him about $2.76 million instead of the $3.5 million they owe him now.

This was posted a little bit after this initial post, which took the position that I have -- that the Dodgers get reimbursed whatever Andruw Jones makes from another major league team.

I suspect that this may be part of the deal the Dodgers and Jones negotiated as part of his release. Remember, Jones wanted to be released, and the Dodgers wanted to cut him loose, and they negotiated a restructuring of his deal to defer a lot of this year's money as part of the Dodgers agreeing to release him.

I imagine part of the deal Boras cut was that 50% kickback to the Dodgers, rather than the usual 100%.

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Andruw Jones (CF - LOS)

LOS?

"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland

by chrisR on Feb 8, 2009 9:31 PM CST reply actions

Los Rangers

Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.

by TheJeezus on Feb 8, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Mench

Couldn’t you find a current player? lol

Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!

by boomer1 on Feb 8, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions

what’s the difference in the signings of Turnbow and Jones?

Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"

by Longhorn on Feb 8, 2009 10:58 PM CST reply actions

i can answer that (for adam)

we always need pitching (bullpen or starters) and Turnbow (Jennings) doesn’t really block anybody, especially if they just go down to AAA and wait until someone else gets injured.

I agree with this point for the most part – Jones has more drawbacks than Jennings or Turnbow. Still worth it.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Feb 8, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions

Still don't really see the problem with the signing

Boggs, Byrd and Murphy all = 4th OFers, right AJM?

by hiafex on Feb 8, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions

the problem i see..

is what it might do to the 40 man. There’s 1 opening last I checked, and there’s several low risk guys with a high likelihood of making the team (turnbow,jones,jennings,vizquel) and andrus will be added at some point.

My concern is who will become this years galllaraga?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 9, 2009 4:51 AM CST up reply actions

40 Man

There will be 2 more spots when Hurley and Benoit are put on the 60-day DL, right?

"that suzuki guy should go back to making cars" - My girlfriend after C.J.'s close in game 2

by tdi1985 on Feb 9, 2009 7:00 AM CST up reply actions

True. Forgot about that

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Feb 9, 2009 8:09 AM CST up reply actions

gallaraga

not that good
fluke year
mark it down

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Feb 9, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions

Rangers

need some fluke years.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Feb 9, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions

Matt Harrison is a candidate

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 9, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions

yay!

one down.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Feb 9, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I always thought he had the stuff

to be a very good setup man. I agree that you probably won’t see him repeat the success that he had last year. But that doesn’t mean that he isn’t a good ML pitcher. Much better than several of the ones that we kept instead.

Just because he was lucky last year doesn’t excuse the huge mistake that JD made in giving him away.

"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve

by tricer on Feb 9, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions

some fantasy site

listed him as the #1 most liekly pitcher to fall back to earth based on a bunch of thigns like BABIP, % of pitches thrown, etc

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Feb 9, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions

those things, plus the fact that he threw 39% sliders

makes him an injury risk, as well as a fall-back-to-earth risk.

"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve

by tricer on Feb 9, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions

yuuup

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Feb 9, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions

Jones Displacement Theory

I partially agree with the displacement theories.

But, I see it this way. Last year, Milton Bradley kinda displaced Cruz. Cruz had a good year in AAA, and theoretically might have had a good year in Arlington. But Bradley (and Murphy) kept their spots. If Jones comes back, surprises everyone, plays well, we have Borbon and Boggs (both WAY younger than Cruz in 2008) sitting in either AAA or Arlington. Not to beat a dead horse, but, I’m just sorta excited about the story. I want to see what Jones does in Spring Training games. It adds some drama and intrigue at least. Oh well, that’s all.

by 3Bagger on Feb 8, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions

if nothing else...

it gives us something to talk about other than how pathetic the rotation looks. Again.

"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve

by tricer on Feb 9, 2009 6:01 AM CST up reply actions

Jones

Yes. Something to do.

LA was not kind to Shawn Green. Maybe a few cheap homers and some steroid cream and Andruw Jones is back in house.

I can dream. I do think JD is great at uncovering low-risk-good-upside deals. I trust him on that more than the blockbuster stuff.

by 3Bagger on Feb 9, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions

Offense/Defense

I knew Ian Kinsler was an offensive force, but I didn’t know he was also a member of the MLB ’08 All-Error Team: http://morehardball.blogspot.com/2009/02/stonehedge-butchers-all-error-team.html

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by GMCarson on Feb 9, 2009 7:36 AM CST reply actions

Its part of the reason

you can often hear talk of moving Kinsler to the OF.

Get off my lawn.

by DJCahill on Feb 9, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions

which is

rediculous

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Feb 9, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions

diculous again?

by octoberty on Feb 9, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I am sure I am

in good company.

The words most likely to be misspelled (ratio of incorrect to correct spelling) according to a study of Usenet traffic some years ago were DUMBELL, OCCURRENCE, MEMENTO, FRUSTUM, COLLECTIBLE, AMATEUR, DAIQUIRI, PASTIME, ACCIDENTALLY, PLAYWRIGHT, EMBARRASS, ACQUIT, HARASS, and PRONUNCIATION.

The same study showed the words most frequently misspelled (by gross count) to be: RECEIVE, A LOT, AMATEUR, SEPARATE, REALIZE, THEIR, DEFINITE, INDEPENDENT, WEIRD, EMBARRASS, ARGUMENT, NO ONE, ACQUIRE, ACCIDENTALLY, OCCURRENCE, COLLECTIBLE, RIDICULOUS, MANEUVER, LIAISON, GAUGE, ATHEIST, GRAMMAR, SUPERSEDE, KERNEL, and CONSENSUS.

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Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Feb 9, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions

Some groundbreaking stuff there

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Feb 9, 2009 8:37 AM CST up reply actions

Hmm

Had the Rangers been able to sign Sheets, would they have still signed Jones?

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by Pocket Ninja on Feb 9, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions

Yes

because they can still see how he performs during ST without using up a spot yet.

by Coolbean04 on Feb 9, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions

If we had signed Ben Sheets along with all the NRI's

We might have had one of the better offseason’s in basbeall.

by octoberty on Feb 9, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions

I think we still sign Sheets

I think we will sign him once we don’t have to give up a draft pick in the middle of summer.

by Coolbean04 on Feb 9, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions

Well

We only have to give up a 2nd rounder since our first rounder is protected and we get a 2nd from Chicago for Bradley so I don’t think thats whats holding us up

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 9, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions

But why give up a 2nd?

He’s not pitching any time soon. Might as well wait on the signing.

by Coolbean04 on Feb 9, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions

Well we already have an extra one because of bradley so we wouldn't be losing a pick really

I would gladly give up a 2nd round pick for a pitcher of Sheets’ caliber. Anyone who even hesitates at that thought is crazy. Its Sheets’ medical stuff that is holding up his signing somewhere.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Feb 9, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed

Don’t give him time to recover and try to find another team that might get intrested in him.

Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!

by boomer1 on Feb 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions

it would have to be AFTER the draft

and it has never happened, and likely wont happen this year

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Feb 9, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions

Do you think...

they’ll be able to keep Jones away from those tasty giant hotdogs they sell out at RBiA? It’s the 7th inning and FSN pans up to the “All You Can Eat” seats and there’s Jim Knox sitting next to Andruw Jones…nacho cheese all over his face…. Knox asks some stupid questions…gets a pie in the face and Josh Lewin laughs with that high pitched laugh. All this is going on while we miss a fantastic play by Elvis Andrus.

by Pocket Ninja on Feb 9, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions

pet peeve

If they want to have Fox Box Knox do all his bizarro in the stands stuff, could they please do that so that the fans that want, you know, watch the game, don’t miss any on-field action. It happens nearly every game.

"drawing walks is an overrated trait in my eyes."
"i do believe we could have 4 30 start pitchers in the rotation."
-- both these genius remarks brought to you by our resident guru, bigsteve

by tricer on Feb 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions

FSN is terrible with that

They always seem to manage to have Knox on screen when the best play of the game is happening.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Feb 9, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions

FSn is a joke

Nice article here…dont know if anyones interested in reading it but here it is…http://www.fanzak.com/fzrants/Weekend_musings:A_Rod

by Bmoraven20 on Feb 9, 2009 11:22 AM CST reply actions

Why does Jones have incentives

He wouldnt make any more money would he? I thought the Dodgers were paying most of his salary and the Rangers would pay something close to league minimum. So giving him these incentives just means that the Rangers might pay a little bit more of what the Dodgers owe him?

by groundingout on Feb 9, 2009 4:22 PM CST reply actions