Poor, put-upon Tom Hicks
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 9, 2009 8:31 PM CST
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Thank goodness Tom Hicks has taken the time to speak about the ARod/steroids story, and make it all about him:
"I'd rather he had one further apology," Hicks said. "That would be to the owner of the Texas Rangers, who signed him to that contract. Then, I'll decide whether I want to accept his apology."
At the risk of being dressed down by Michael Young, Tom Hicks is a giant douchebag.
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if he replaced
‘owner of the texas rangers’ with ‘fans of the texas rangers’ i might think he’s actually doing a stand-up thing and at least putting on a front as some sort of advocate for us. but this statement just seems pathetic, out-of-touch, and egotistical.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Feb 9, 2009 8:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Particular the part...
…where he says, “Then I’ll decided if I want to accept his apology.”
Tom Hicks needs to STFU once and for all.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 9, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know
Doesn’t he sound very stately and eloquent referring to himself in the third person?
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 9, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the most ridiculous part
“Hicks won’t consider Rodriguez’s apology to Rangers fans until the three-time MVP also offers an apology to him”
Seems like he’s pissed that the Ranger fans got an apology, but he didn’t.
by HankScorpio on Feb 9, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
similar to the Kenny Rogers incident
Hicks was pissed that Rogers apologized to everyone but him specifically.
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by tricer on Feb 9, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pathetic, out-of-touch, and egotistical
That does sum up Hicks.
by jasonhh on Feb 9, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You forgot rich
I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.
by Chaim Witz on Feb 9, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Don’t know what to say about that one. Just when I was starting to commend the guy for how he stood his ground surrounding the Sean Avery situation…he goes and says this.
Then I went back and realized what he was saying about the Avery saga, and how the decision to drop Avery was his immediate reaction “because we can’t stand for that behavior in our locker room”. Right. It was aaaaaallllllll him.
Puh-lease.
Go back to your stupid soccer team. That’s right! I SAID SOCCER!!!!
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 9, 2009 8:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But he's desperately trying to sell it...
…but, no matter:
Blue is the colour,
Football is the game.
by GhettoBear04 on Feb 9, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i have yet to see whats so “wrong” about the avery situation…i mean other than it was the straw that broke the camels back otherwise it just…wasnt that bad
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 10, 2009 7:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What he said wasn't all that bad..
It was the situation surrounding it. He completely went against his team’s wishes by talking to the media, he lied about his intentions and there were already things in place to figure out what to do with Avery. He just wasn’t fitting in well with the team and was himself bigger than the team, which is something that doesn’t fly in Dallas. The Stars should have known this would happen, but they gambled that Hull could keep him under control.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 10, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to him now on my recording of hotstove
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Feb 9, 2009 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to punch Hicks in the face.
by Rohn Warshington on Feb 9, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We now have competition in the ‘Comment Of The Year’ category.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 10, 2009 1:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 10, 2009 5:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's to get?
He’s a member of this board so by definition he’s nothing but a fucking asshole who thinks he’s god compared to everyone else.
What more do you need to know, Cool Guy?
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by thedirkatron on Feb 10, 2009 6:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao.
Now I really don’t get that, what the fuck? That was hilarious.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 10, 2009 6:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the new sig.
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by iorange555 on Feb 10, 2009 6:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all the more reason to hate him
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by hinduplaya on Feb 9, 2009 9:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he says some things i don't agree with
like this, but that’s how he feels…let him say what he wants, doesn’t bother me.
I still like him as our owner though.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 9, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone should say what they want.
And if what they want to say are stupid things, I will hate them.
by philkid3 on Feb 9, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yep.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 9, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks owes everyone an apology
for at least the first 8 years or so of ownership of the Rangers. More than that, just apologize for ever saying anything in public about sports. Ever.
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by t ball on Feb 9, 2009 9:07 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
damn
you are on a roid-rage today…..I’m luvin it.
"If you have a problem with me, you're probably a doucher."
by red shoe ranger on Feb 9, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
You just inspired me to change the blog slogan.
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 9, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I am in high dudgeon
just because we have to have all baseball media coverage dominated by this so often and with so much grandstanding, self-righteous bullshit spewing from baseball writers. Just today this is what I’ve seen/heard that’s put a bee in my bonnet:
- Hicks
- that ass from the NY Daily News calling for the Yankees to release Rodriguez
- numerous douche snorkels saying he shouldn’t be allowed in the HOF
- the 2009 season is already ruined
- this Roberts chick is obviously in this for book sales
- and I’m still just completely discombobulated by that polka dot pregnant nightmare on the grammys broadcast last night. Not related, but, what the hell?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Feb 10, 2009 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
She had contractions during the show.
They told her to wait it out and she did. Shes tougher than half the rangers pitching staff.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 10, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not just saying anything about sports, but for saying anything, Period. Ever.
Don’t go away mad, Tom, just go away. Far, far away. Forever.
"Who died and made you King?"
by randyd on Feb 9, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
galloway literally stole your line today, t.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 10, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
alright so...
im in a fantasy keeper league today and got offered a proposal:
i give up
david price, jeff clement and next years 2nd round pick in the prospect draft
for
james shields derek holland hong chi kuo and ryan doumit (who would be my backup behind russ martin)
im pretty sure that’s all i was offered, what would you do?
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by studcrackers on Feb 9, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't do it
David Price is just that good.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Feb 9, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your giving up a lot of risk
if you already have martin you can sit on clement and let his value go up
prospect picks are valuable
shields is good, but not as good as price
kuo is really good
doumit is hit/miss – if he doesnt hit as well as last year he will be not good b/c his defense is really bad.
who are your other SP and RP?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 10, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Take this to fanshots
Everybody can weigh in there.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 10, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard about three Hicks interviews today.
And I’ve been disgusted by each more than the last. Sometimes I forget how much I hate him, and then there are days like today.
by philkid3 on Feb 9, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That’s pretty sorry.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
by sprite on Feb 9, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He has the right to say what he wants.
And we have the right to hate him for it. I will never forgive this buffoon for his “we’ll spend more money when more fans show up comment”. He is cluless and is a waste of human flesh, as far as i am concerned. I originally typed something worse, but decided against it.
"Who died and made you King?"
by randyd on Feb 9, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Sir Adam,
may I approach the bench your honor?
I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for the many disparaging tirades I have launched in your direction. My attempts to categorize and paint you with the red and blue colors of Ranger Homerism have arrived at their fatal conclusion.
“Tom Hicks is a giant douchebag.” The quote that brings antithetical poster’s together.
"If you have a problem with me, you're probably a doucher."
by red shoe ranger on Feb 9, 2009 9:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry RSR,
You missed something.
“Tom Hicks is a giant FUCKING douchebag.”
Thank you.
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by EssBee on Feb 10, 2009 1:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just like
how douche bag is labeled as read related at the top. That is the mark of a good board when enough people have either called someone or has been called a douche bag that it has it’s own search tag.
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Feb 9, 2009 9:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm honestly extremely confused about Hicks
A-Rod finished 6th, 2nd and 1st in MVP Votes and hit 156 Home Runs in his 3 seasons in Texas. He played better than anyone over that time period with the exception of Barry Bonds. Umm, why does A-Rod owe Tom Hicks an apology?
by Agreen07 on Feb 9, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that really is the funny part
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
by ab03 on Feb 9, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because it wasnt enough
hicks is angry he was only on 2 anabolic steroids instead of the good, high class, untracable stuff.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 10, 2009 7:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say that I blame him for being pissed.
Probably not a real popular assessment on this topic, but I think I’d be a tad pissed if I’d given A-Rod that much money and he lied to me about using enhancements.
I see comments like look at all of the things that A-Rod did for Hicks…. why is he mad? Well, why is nearly everyone else on this board pissed?
by Redcaps on Feb 9, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
And then he basically forces his way out of here, used him to get the contract and then gets to play in a precious big market. And then goes on TV and says the PEDs only happened in Texas.
Hicks might not be a good owner, and he may not say the right things. But I’d be pissed at A-Rod too, if I was him.
by scoop16 on Feb 9, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That might be true to an extent but...
Hicks should look out for the fans first and foremost. If not for us he wouldn’t be in a position to sit there and act all high and mighty. Hicks is a huge pile of horse dung.
Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!
by boomer1 on Feb 9, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's an insult to horse dung
How about an apology for letting the juice flow like wine through the ’90’s and earlier this decade? I’m tired of the “Well that was the culture” argument. Have some accountability.
Free Frank Catalanotto
by egriffey on Feb 9, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get
How this makes him even more of a douche? I didn’t think there was anything wrong with what he said, oh well though.
Maybe douches just get each other.
Iorange555.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 9, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Or they're oblivious to douchiness
Free Frank Catalanotto
by egriffey on Feb 9, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see how that is possible
If I just mentioned we were both douches?
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 9, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
by Longhorn on Feb 9, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is all reactionary
Everything I have heard since Saturday has been reactionary. In a month, I will start taking people seriously.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by PM Productions on Feb 9, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That word doesn't mean what you think it means
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 10, 2009 9:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reactionary
Reactionary
Re*ac"tion*a*ry\, a. Being, causing, or favoring reaction; as, reactionary movements.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by PM Productions on Feb 10, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
The established defintion refers to political conservatism. Nice try leaving out the meat of the definition.
http://www.google.com/hws/search?q=reactionary&hl=en&client=dell-usuk&channel=us-smb
Of course, if your intention was to point out that all the commenters on the subject have been hard core right wingers, I’ll take you at your word.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?
by Brian Thomas on Feb 10, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are y'all saying?
Is Hicks wrong to be upset? Hicks talked to Arod about this issue and Arod denied his involvement with steroids. How is Hicks wrong with this one particular situation? If someone I spoke with face to face LIED to me then yeah, I’d be effn pissed off. Maybe I’m not seeing it the way y’all are, help me.
Just Sign Him '09 --- Wait, didn't know about the flexor tendon thing.....gimme a second...
by Ryin A on Feb 9, 2009 10:22 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Nope.
You are correct.
Or just a douche like me.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 9, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its one thing to be pissed off
its another to vocally express that anger in a crass, self-centered way. this is hank steinbrenner level buffoonery. when youre a billionaire owner of multiple pro sports teams you should act like it and conduct yourself with dignity, no matter how pissed you are at something or how justified you are in feeling that way.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Feb 10, 2009 12:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dal Hansen
Calling for the end of baseball.
You dick that was uncalled for - male cheerleader
by iorange555 on Feb 9, 2009 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hansen is an idiot
He and Grandpa Urine just need to go away.
Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!
by boomer1 on Feb 9, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They should retire and sit on the front porch in rocking chairs drinking all day…. wait they already do that except they get up briefly to do their shows.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 10, 2009 4:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or do they do their shows from the front porch?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 10, 2009 7:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh!
If the Rangers won the World Series, and Romo got a hang-nail on the same day, he would lead with Romo. I remember him doing a piece on Brian Jordan, at the end he says, paraphrasing, “Of course, Jordan should’ve stuck to the real sport, football.”
I wonder why he was pissed McCaa gave the World Series result, he doesn’t care about the sport.
by scoop16 on Feb 9, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hansen Style.
You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you Saxy boy?
by oc on Feb 10, 2009 1:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A-hem-roid is on ESPN right now.
This is the first time I have seen this. What a douche.
Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!
by boomer1 on Feb 9, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stephen A. Smith
right or wrong, is so fucking annoying.
Just Sign Him '09 --- Wait, didn't know about the flexor tendon thing.....gimme a second...
by Ryin A on Feb 9, 2009 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on Screamin A. Smith
But did he say call arod A-hem-roid? If so I will quit using it because I hate that guy.
Sheets or bust
Damn you rotator cuff damn you!
by boomer1 on Feb 9, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he did
stop using immediately. And his analysis of A-Rod was so dumb it was embarrassing. He really should go into a remote cave and talk there. The echos will allow him to hear himself, something he clearly seems to enjoy.
by Agreen07 on Feb 9, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its steven smith
of course its going to be dumb. its a given
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 10, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you going to cal him A-hem-roid every time?
by philkid3 on Feb 9, 2009 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i like Ste-Rod
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 10, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HOWEVER!!!!!
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 10, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Tom Hicks is peeved
At being lied to. Understandable.
Then he wants an apology for himself as owner of the team that is being castigated, rightly or wrongly, as the representative entity of the ’roids infection. No tunderstandable.
Another person whom I know, albeit not “that” well, Kenny Rogers, made apologies to everybody but not specifically to Hicks. He was shed like a leaky wet suit thereafter. He could have contributed a couple more years for the Rangers, and dammit, wanted to!
What Tom Hicks doesn’t blow off or buy off, he runs off. I’m weary of his grand opera. I hope Nolan Ryan can ameliorate all back and forth between ownership and the baseball side of the organization. I really, really hope so.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
by Ed Coffin on Feb 10, 2009 12:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only Person I've heard say anything worthwhile is Schilling
Release all the names and get on with it and move past all this once and for all.
Because we all know it wont be long before another name comes out and the circus starts again
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 10, 2009 4:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
schilling
also a douchebag.
but right in this case…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Feb 10, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
of course he's a dbag
doesnt mean he isn’t right.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Feb 10, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what would be nice, Adam?
Open up a post, and actually go on the record with your thoughts about Alex Rodriguez doing PEDs as a Ranger.
Your fawning over this player, this precious, precious, ongoing grudge you’ve had over his trade are so tedious, Adam. Years later, it still winds up on this ostensibly stat-driven message board.
Fault the guy who guaranteed Alex Rodriguez record-surpassing paychecks for having a reaction to his drug use, but at least put your own reaction in plain words first.
I’ll tell you this: the fact Tom Hicks is pissed is ipso facto. Alex Rodriguez lied to him. Why don’t you mention your take on that, too?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 10, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Do we know that Tom Hicks
actually asked ARod if he was on steroids?
I don’t really fault the players at all for doing whatever they could to keep up with the competition because players were not being tested.
If the posted speed limit on a highway was 60 mph but you could travel as fast as you could on said highway without worrying about being caught and were being financially encouraged to go faster, would you observe the speed limit?
If MLB really, really wanted drugs out of baseball, they’d give the players blood tests and suspensions would be permanent.
They don’t tolerate gambling so why should they tolerate PEDs?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2009 9:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He assured me he had too much respect for his own body to do that to himself.
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/02/tom-hicks-i-feel-personally-betrayed.html
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Feb 10, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough but Hicks is going to
squawk about ARod when his organization is viewed by many as Ground Zero for steroid use?
Ruben Sierra was one of the poster children of steroid use for that era and Hicks brought him back twice – in 2000 and then again in 2003.
Raffy, Pudge, Juando, Rocker, Velarde, Caminiti, Almanzar and later Sosa(the list probably doesn’t end there and I suspect current Rangers as well)…
Owners, GMs, managers, trainers were all very complicit in letting this culture thrive because MLB was making a boatload of bank from the way the game was being played.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really fault the players at all for doing whatever they could to keep up with the competition because players were not being tested.
but the year he failed was the year that MLB would only start permenent testing if 10% of the MLBPA tested positive. all these players had to do was for less than 10% of them to do steriods 1 season and the problem goes away forever…
and AROD TEST POSITIVE?
you have to be the biggest moron on the face of the earth to screw that up, 104 were.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Feb 10, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...
Your fawning over this player, this precious, precious, ongoing grudge you’ve had over his trade are so tedious, Adam.
Huh?
by Adam J. Morris on Feb 10, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Tom,
you got a whole locker room of players from the mid 90s who were juicing.
Deal with it.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Feb 10, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Somebody wrote something in LSB about
the connection of Baltimore / Texas players from the 90’s & early 00’s and said the link was Johnny Oates.
I think the big link was Doug Melvin.
While I’m thinking about it, Eric Gagne…another poster child for steroid use was a Ranger in 2007.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Feb 10, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can look at every team...
and see connections. You don’t think there are any connections in the Bay form the A’s and Giants?
How about with the Yankees, no connections there?
Every team had multiple players on PED’s. The connection is MLB players in general.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Feb 10, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And we are supposed to believe Hicks didn't know ??
The Mitchell Report has a section describing how Juan Gonzalez, when he payed in Cleveland, was essentially caught crossing into Toronto with a bag of PED’s, which “belonged” to his personal trainer. And the GM of the Indians at that time was John Hart. The following year, Hicks hired Hart, who signed Juan Gon. Canseco, Juan Gon, Palmeiro, probably Pudge, A Rod, sure Tom, you deserve a long apology.
Remarks
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