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Tuesday a.m. things

Yeah, not a good outing yesterday for Kevin Millwood, who allowed 10 runs in 3 innings.  Millwood said the problem was his location.  Evan Grant says the important thing is that Millwood is throwing pitches, and is working towards a 100 pitch outing by the end of spring training.

Gil LeBreton thinks that Kris Benson should get a look in the Ranger rotation, and notes that Benson's opt-out date is May 5, which allows the Rangers to send him to the minors for a month and see how things shake out with their original 5.'

Evan Grant says that, while the bat was the big question for Andruw Jones coming into spring training, Jones' defense in centerfield has been problematic thusfar as well, with Ron Washington describing Jones as "sluggish" on a ball that went for a triple yesterday. 

Grant also notes that Hank Blalock is taking some ground balls at third base, with the idea being that on the rare occasions Michael Young needs a day off, Blalock could fill in.  I suspect that if Young were to be out more than a day or maybe two, then German Duran or Travis Metcalf would be brought up to fill in.

Elvis Andrus is learning the ropes this spring, and is getting praise for asking the right questions and spending time with Rudy Jaramillo and Omar Vizquel.

Mike Hindman has a write-up on Greg Golson, the former first rounder whom the Rangers acquired from the Phillies for John Mayberry, Jr. this offseason.

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Andrus

Sounds like Andrus is progressing well and is on track to being the starting SS. But will he be the opening day SS? Would Washington start Vizquel at SS out of respect to the future HOF veteran?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Mar 10, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

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Would Washington start Vizquel at SS out of respect to the future HOF veteran?

No. Why would he? Vizquel was brought in to be the backup.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 10, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt bet against.

Warsh does some weird things sometimes

by BEW on Mar 10, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

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Warsh does some weird things sometimes all the time.

"You can have such a massive impact on a game even when you're not getting ground balls hit at you." - Michael Young

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is something Wash would do.

Why did RW start Broussard opening day vs a LHP? He also started him for the Rangers home opener vs a LHP. Those were the only games he started vs a LHP for the Rangers.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Mar 10, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its something alot of teams do

Opening Day and your home opener (if they are on different days) are two days where you throw out matchups and play the players you expect to play the majority of games. Especially the home opener because its generally one of the biggest crowds and people don’t pay to come see the backups play.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 10, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt

that one single person that showed up for opening day last season bought a ticket and thought to themselves, “can’t wait to see Ben Broussard, he’s so dreamy”.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 10, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah because who was the other option

Frank Catalanotto? Chris Shelton? Ramon Vasquez?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 10, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hadn't he just learned the position?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 10, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, not really

I’m not advocating that he should have started, I’m just saying that if it wasn’t Broussard, it would have been Botts.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 10, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you know anything about the team

you’d know that’s exactly something Wash would do

by Mike E on Mar 10, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

thedirkatron says:

Millwood was just unlucky yesterday.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 10, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like

he sucked and was unlucky.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

they both seem to happen a lot concurrently..

those were some lasers yesterday. I almost ran up to the gift shop and bought a batting helmet.

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 10, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I care more about Millwood being good

than Millwood throwing 100 pitches. 100 pitches of mediocrity isn’t anything to get excited about.

by JBImaknee on Mar 10, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

it's ST, dead arm, etc.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

If that was a regular season game he would have been out well before 10 runs had scored.

But its spring training and pitch counts and getting ready for April take precedent over your record

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 10, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Golson

I don’t really expect much out of him, but I’m not missing Mayberry either.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

the unknown is kinda tantalizing with Golson

I wonder if there is any aspect of baseball that Beltre is better at than Golson, and if so by how much? My guess is that Beltre is a better contact hitter, but other than that his main advantage is his youth.

I ask only because Beltre seems like the same type of young player, and everybody is excited about him, but a guy like Golson could end up being a better player, possibly much better. Basically either one of them could end up anywhere on the spectrum from AA fodder to ML superstar. Certainly doesn’t hurt to have a few of those in the system.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 10, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another year like 2008

and I won’t expect much out of Beltre, either.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Contact is pretty big

While Beltre needs to make big improvements in his approach, the ability to hit is usually what separates true major league talents from other great athletes who are just trying to play baseball. A better hit tool is also the main thing that would separate a Carlos Beltran from a Donald Harris and a Chase Utley from a Drew Meyer. Obviously the MLB stars developed quality approaches and additional power, but the primary thing that makes them major leaguers rather than busts is the ability to put the bat on major league pitches.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

certainly

but I just looked up the two players stat lines and found this:

Golson .265/.310/.406
Beltre .271/.315/.412

What evidence do we have that Beltre has better contact skills?

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 10, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hits

Last year Beltre had 160 to lead the Midwest League while Golson had only 120.

Also the strikeouts. In 426 ABs Golson had 130 Ks while in 566 ABs Beltre only had 105

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 10, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, limited evidence

Beltre’s contact rates were a little better (marginally better strikeout rate as bigsteve mentions, though that is mitigated some by the fact that he never walked and therefore probably didn’t get to many deep counts, while Golson may have been trying to go deeper into counts), but we’re mostly back to his ARL being the biggest factor. We’ll just have to see with him as a result, while Golson does have a pretty established track record that he’ll have to keep improving to be successful.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

well Goldstein addressed this in the Hindman interview

in regards to Beltre:

I actually think he’s a very good hitter. He has a knack for contact. I know he’s got the issues with the strikeouts and low walks, but 105 K’s in 500 at bats is a tremendous contact rate for an 18 year old in the MWL. He’s a hacker, but he’s not a hack-and-misser. He swings at stuff he shouldn’t swing at, but he still hits them and hits them hard.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 10, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of reminds me of Vlad (who at that age was walking more, but yeah).

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Mar 10, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows what he did at what age?

I’m not even sure how old he is now.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Mar 10, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I don't expect anything either

but I’m definitely happy that we have him here. not sure Mayberry will ever get even an average MLB career off the ground, but to be honest, if he’s not a plus defender in the OF for us, he should be playing 1B with the other outfield talent we have around. And with Davis and soon to be Smoak around, he just didn’t fit anywhere. Maybe DH if he could hit like one. But then there’s Max. So bring in Golson, a supreme defender, to go along with Borbon and Hamilton plus Boggs/Cruz to form an above average outfield for years to come, at least defensively.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: phantom post

All day yesterday and this morning as well, the User’s Guide fanpost on the right claims to have a new comment ready to read. I click, no new comment… SBN has ghosts.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

All those recs

have given you special powers.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

InsideCorner

ridiculous with their content. So much good stuff there

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah so far so good...

…I’m hoping this isn’t just a rush of material at the beginning. This could end up being a great daily source for DFW sports info.

We couldn't have known it at the time but we definitely killed the wrong Belushi brother.

by Chad Crudup on Mar 10, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

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by mjh on Mar 10, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Max Ramirez

this blows for him. Evan basically covered it but I want to vent. Stupid Venezuelans can’t do shit right. Probably won’t use him again. What a waste of a spring

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

what happened?

I’m in the dark

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not getting any PT in the WBC.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Mar 10, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

miserable.

he played in the fall though, right?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millwood's quote scared me a bit...

“I felt like I had a bullseye on me,” Millwood said. “But it happens. I’ve gotten used to it.”

Not something one should get used to.

by Wemedge on Mar 10, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Postcards from the Elysian Fields closed for a while?

What’s the story behind this? Something happen to T.R.?

by Wemedge on Mar 10, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

he's just asking, dick

and to answer, i don’t think anyone knows

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

see what I mean?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Mar 10, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Because I have no idea what you’re talking about.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

nba mvp, right now?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough.

I still think Kobe’s the best player in the league, but maybe Lebron is most valuable right now.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have agreed with that 2 weeks ago..

But what Wade is doing right now is ridiculous.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

But I hate him, so that has to be factored into my analysis.

In all seriousness, he’s got to be most valuable, since his team is absolute shit. If the season ended today, though, it’d be Lebron.

Also, I wrote this at MM, but Golden State just released Marcus Williams. Interested?

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably worth a shot

Never really liked him, though.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big Don must not either.

They gave up a first for him, if I remember correctly.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cowboys signed SS Gerald Sensabaugh

I like this because of the freedom it gives us going into the draft.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the main things

that I’ve never gotten with Jerry and/or whoever is telling him what kind of personnel he needs is why it’s been a decade since they even tried to have a legit, true free safety on their team. ONE! It makes even less sense given that we’ve been in a trend of more passing and given that they have had poor corner depth that whole time until 2008.

I don’t know much about this guy, but he’s another whose weakness is pass coverage.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Did you see what they’re trying with Scrandrick?

Well, according to some reports the team is tinkering with the idea of moving second-year corner Orlando Scandrick into that role. He would be a free safety in the regular defense but become the slot corner in passing situations.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess we'll see if it happens

It would be an acknowledgment of the need. It would also leave them with just two viable corners once again.

As I said earlier, I like the nickel corner part and not the FS in standard formations part.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really wish we would have gone after Springs.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

All reports call him a pretty good special team-er, and otherwise similar to RW from about 2-3 years ago.

He’s not a long-term solution, but it’s a pretty nice pickup.

Concerns about coverage are very well-founded, though.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

No problem with bring him in, I just haven’t understood the FS situation for several years. Hamlin is a solid player, but he’s obviously more of a combo safety.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And it looks like we might have pulled the trigger on that fat contract a little early.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did he have a lot guaranteed?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't remember.

I just have a vague notion that it was out of line—I could be completely talking out of my ass.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It seems that after this year

Cutting him is an option.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 10, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

I remember how he was supposed to be a fantasy sleeper in the 120’s, producing 12 points and 6/7 assists while Monta was out in Nellie’s system.

Then he never hit the court after a crappy preseason. I wasted a pick in three leagues on him.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Mar 10, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

didnt

New Jersey not want to give him up in the Kidd deal last year??

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by MayurP on Mar 10, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I wouldn’t want to give up Dirk and Bass in the same deal, either.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

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