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Kevin Goldstein Q&A

Michael Hindman has a Q&A up with BP's Kevin Goldstein, whose Rangers top 11 prospect list went up at BP today...

Some good stuff, particularly on Elvis Andrus and Engel Beltre, among others...check it out...

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Haven’t heard anyone rave on Feliz’s secondaries before

by BuckyB on Mar 10, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

for what it's worth

I disagree with KG on Feliz’s secondary stuff. Every now and again, Feliz whips off a great slurvy thing that is unhittable. More often than not, however, it’s an invitation for hammer time because of the way he telegraphs it and because it’s frequently as flat as a pancake. Kevin has more scouting sources than I do, and he’s certainly more respected than I am, but I’ve seen Feliz pitch more often than Kevin has. Hopefully, I’m wrong and he’s right.

by mjh on Mar 10, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike

Do you think Feliz will be a starting pitcher or a closer with that said about his secondary stuff. Or do you think he will get better with another year in the minors?

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not as high on the breaking stuff

as Kevin is. And I do think he’ll get better with another year in the minors. I think he’s a pretty sharp kid and a hard worker.

by mjh on Mar 11, 2009 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

where would you like to see him start next year?

AA?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, what I took from that

was that he was impressed with the potential of those pitches, given his age and place on the development curve. He has lots of time to fix the telegraphing and improve that stuff.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

because of the way he telegraphs it

THIS is why i want him to have a (nearly) full year in the minors this year and dont want him to be in the pen this year

unlike guys like andrus and teagarden, whom i dont really think would benefit from another year in the minors, feliz could benefit more than any other pitcher or player in our system with another year under his belt

there is a very real possibility of the rangers having multiple top 10 prospects next year, and to think they will probably only graduate a few off of their top 11 is redic

Five-Star Prospects
1. Neftali Feliz, RHP (will probably be elig next year)
2. Justin Smoak, 1B (will probably be elig next year)
3. Derek Holland, LHP (who knows)
Four-Star Prospects
4. Michael Main, RHP (will be elig next year)
5. Engel Beltre, CF (will be elig next year)
6. Elvis Andrus, SS
Three-Star Prospects
7. Martin Perez, LHP (will be elig next year)
8. Max Ramirez, C (up in the air, who knows about next year + eligibility)
9. Taylor Teagarden, C
10. Neil Ramirez, RHP (will be elig next year)
11. Wilfredo Boscan, RHP (will be elig next year)

Just Missed: Julio Borbon, OF (may or may not be elig);
Blake Beaven, RHP; (will be elig next year)
Jose Vallejo, 2B (will be elig next year)

add in guys like font and the early round picks next year + someone like robbie ross and thats a serous top 11, even if you subtract andrus and teagarden and roll with the 1st rd pick + ross in the top 11 next year (say they both slot in the 8-11 range) thats still a top 5 farm system imho

its atleast good to see a light at the end of the tunnel…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak will still be eligible next year

you can drop that probably. There is simply no reason to rush a guy who really hasn’t played professional ball to the majors that fast. He has 3 pre-40 man years left for development. Lets use at least one of them…

by JBImaknee on Mar 11, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holland and Feliz

I doubt either of them will be prospect eligible next season. If either of those gets on a roll of about 4-5 dominating starts, we’ll see them in Arlington at that point. I expect that both will be pitching for the Rangers by late summer at the latest.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 11, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

God I hope not

No matter how good a guy is to jump from Low A ball to the majors in a year and a half is too fast IMO. Barring an enormous amount of injuries I will be pissed if we see either of them before the ASB at the earliest.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 11, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

i see zero reason to jump feliz to the majors

he quite clearly can be “anything” — why stick him in the pen, where he will rely (even more) on his plusplus FB and not have to work on his other pitches, while you can stick him in AA or AAA and let him work on them

no holland, i can understand if he pitches in the second half and gets 10-15 starts then, but why would you start holland off at the major league level?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin is about as big of a

Feliz fan as there has been in baseball for the last 3-4 years.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 10, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

he started driving the bandwagon

thats for sure

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Adam

…and may I take this opportunity to ask all of the LSBers to pound Inside Corner with hits so that we can keep it going. Obviously, we all need Evan on the beat and the more we can show our sponsors that we’re being read, the better it is for all Rangers fans.

Thanks again for the plug AJM. And for everyone here, please hit us and comment — good or bad.

by mjh on Mar 10, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Just out of curiosity...

…what is the stability of the Inside Corner? Honestly, it seems like most Rangers reporting in this town is done to the Rangers fans with the lowest level of interest. It’s the main reason why lonestarball is my main source for Rangers news. I know that it’s just starting, but have the returns been good enough that it’s something we can expect to be around for a while? Or it is in more of an experimental stage?

I hope it lasts a while because I’ve really enjoyed it. It’s refreshing to see the Rangers covered in as much detail by reporters as they would if one of the fans from this site were covering them.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can count on us for this season

And then I suppose it will be reevaluated. Just guessing. I’m not the owner or a sponsor (btw, drink a Dr. Pepper every now and then for us, OK) and ultimately, it’s up to them.

LSB is a great place to keep up with what’s going on with the Rangers, but guys like Adam and Jamey Newberg don’t have the capacity to do beat reporting and without guys like Evan on the ground getting the news and the stories, bloggers — no matter how good they are — don’t have much to write about.

First and foremost, we want to become the go-to source for Rangers news and reporting. I’m just there to add some bells and whistles to the project.

by mjh on Mar 11, 2009 6:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

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guys like Adam and Jamey Newberg don’t have the capacity to do beat reporting and without guys like Evan on the ground getting the news and the stories, bloggers — no matter how good they are — don’t have much to write about.

Absolutely. That’s the point I’ve been trying to hammer home, both here and on the SBN listserv, when people dismiss the significance of beat reporting being cut back.

What Galloway or J-JT or Cowlishaw or those guys have to say doesn’t usually add much to what we do here. The bread and butter of what we are able to talk about comes from the beat reporting. If we don’t have beat reporters out there getting the nuts and bolts news about what is going on on a daily basis, the blogs lose a lot of content.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 11, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

And that's why

for the life of me I do not understand the papers cutting beat reporters and keeping worthless columnists around. Beat reporting is the unique thing they offer, columnists are superfluous. If papers are making similar decisions in other sections, no wonder they’re floundering.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think most of us are very aware of the vital utility of beat reporters

I can see how it wouldn’t just naturally occur to someone, albeit unlikely.

But I can’t see how any person w/ half a brain would need to be told twice. The notion is irrefutable.

I think this is what the overrated Buzz Bissinger and the underrated David Simon, among others, have been missing in their hyper-critical tirades against bloggers. Blogs have become worthy and often dominant competitors in the opinion/columnist angle of journalism, but there is simply no substitute for beat reporters. And of course, most esteem-worthy blogs vigilantly cite their beat reporter sources, so the whole brouhaha between the two camps frequently misses the mark.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Mar 11, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Evan and you do longer pieces

post them on places like Baseball Think Factory. I’ve already seen them over at Baseball Musings. You need to get some of the sports radio crowd interested though for sheer numbers.

If you can keep this going, the local papers are irrelevant to me. This is much better coverage than we’re getting from DMN or FWST.

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by t ball on Mar 10, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Ballhype.

I don’t know much of how it works, but I know something like 5 of every 4 baseball-related Google searches I do sends me to Ballhype.

by philkid3 on Mar 11, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 on this

id love to have EG on ben and skin soon (hinthint)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

thank you for the info!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Link

Mike could you post the link. Sometimes I can’t type the address in at school without them filtering it. I will go there everyday….

by peachygbc_1 on Mar 11, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Went to Dmagazine.com....

and from the front page, I can’t find a link to go to the Inside Corner. The website is not doing you guys any favors by not making it easy to get to your section. They should know better.

Tell them to put Sports right up there between the Real Estate and Weddings buttons.

Adam J. Morris - "Murphy isn't that good. He is overrated by Rangers fans."
....How dare you, sir!! Take it back!!

by b.pate on Mar 11, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also.....

I go up to the search box and search for Inside Corner and it immediately goes somewhere and the site is blocked by my employer. I can get to dmagazine.com OK, and I can go to the inside corner section directly OK, but I have no idea where the search function goes to causing it to be blocked by my workplace……weird.

Adam J. Morris - "Murphy isn't that good. He is overrated by Rangers fans."
....How dare you, sir!! Take it back!!

by b.pate on Mar 11, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

He seems extremely high on Beltre

I like to hear that he has confidence in his ability at such a young age, sounds like the Andrus of CF.

by hiafex on Mar 10, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

That is what I took out of it also

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre's confidence

This is why I hope we’re very patient in his advancement, I don’t want that kid losing any of his confidence by being overmatched. Such an important asset.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Mar 10, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree more

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh. Things like this could go either way.

Let’s say he’s having a good year this year in A+, I’d imagine a late season promotion to Frisco could be a great move for his confidence even if he struggles with being “overmatched”, as any struggles could easily be balanced out by the confidence boost he’d receive from knowing the team thought enough of him to promote his like that.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.

by thedirkatron on Mar 11, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

What kind of year can he have in Bakersfield?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

In that kind of hitting environment? The sky is the limit.

Gun to my head I’d say an .800-.825 OPS with 15 hrs and fantastic CF defense as one of the youngest guys in the Cal league.

But he’s a wide spectrum guy. He could do much worse than that, or of course much better.

He has some serious things to work on (mainly the pitiful walks and the .220/.257/.262/.519 line versus lefties last year in 141 AB’s), but his talent is apparently just off the charts and he’s going from one of the very worst hitting environments in the minors to one of the very best.

I’m bullish on him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.

by thedirkatron on Mar 11, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

His lefty-righty splits are definitely worrisome

But i’m trying to figure out why his OPS was 100 points less at home than on the road…

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 11, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

do you think he ends up as a COF?

or stays in center?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he'll be like Hamilton

In the fact he could play CF and play it pretty well but is ideally suited for a COF. Plus with Borbon in CF I think in this organization that will be his eventual landing spot. I think his body will fill out and he’ll get bigger but still maintain his speed. A Beltre/Borbon/Hamilton OF in 2012 would make me giddy

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 11, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

my understanding

is that he was/is a better CF defender than borbon, is that correct? or am i 100% off there (entirely possible)

(read somehwere the borbon takes bad routes and has the obv arm issue)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hadn't read about bad route taking

Maybe you are referring to his time in Bakersfield where he was forced to line up right behind 2nd base because CF is so shallow. I really just think as he gets older his body is going to fill out and he’ll be ideally suited for a COF spot but will have the ability to play a good CF if needed.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Mar 11, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Late season, I got no problem

I agree that would be a confidence booster. I just don’t want to see a quick promotion that leads to an extended struggle or yo-yoing the levels.

I too am bullish on him, and just hope it’s done at a steady pace. I think it will, with guys like Borbon, Hamilton, Golson, Boggs, hopefully Cruz, and possibly Davis, there’s no need to push the issue.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Mar 11, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the in depth response.

I’ve enjoyed the new site a lot and am hoping it does well enough to be around a very long time.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 10, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

We got your back Evan

We are nothing if not maniacally incessant in our postings…

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 10, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's none of my business, but I'm just curious

What type of yearly budget is required for a beat writer? Between salary, travel expenses, etc, what type of money is required for D magazine to provide this service?

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 10, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tricer, you should know better . . .

I can’t really reply to that question. It was necessary for D to go out and sell significant advertising and the project was not going to be green-lighted unless they did. Dr. Pepper, as you’ve seen, has started a nifty sponsorship that allows people the opportunity to win tickets to games and even sit with me (what a prize!). We’ll be adding another really cool sponsor shortly and may even have some events planned with said sponsor.

Beyond simply being ethical, practicing good journalism – the development of sources and relationships – is expensive. In the past, it was easy to justify those expenditures because papers were making money in piles. Now, places have to be more creative. Lot of challenges. All I know is that I’m really fired up about the challenges.

by Evan Grant on Mar 10, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

We all know better Evan....

Your budget is at least enough to outbid Citibank for the naming rights of the new Yankee Stadium….lol…right!

by DCRanger on Mar 10, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your answer should've been....

Eleventy billion dollars.

$Texas would’ve been acceptable.

by LiamP on Mar 10, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what i was looking for
$Texas

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

will you guys also have something in D magazine from time to time

or is it a purely online thing?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

D: The Magazine

Hoping to occasionally have a longer piece in the magazine. There are a number of longer features that I’ve never been able to write for the newspaper that I’d love to do for D. May have some shorter pieces and charts/trinkety type stuff, too. Plus, I am going to get a chance to write a little bit of food (which has been an aim for me) and maybe some other stuff. I’ve got a couple of entries already on the very good food/restaurant blog SideDish. Check it out. We’re just hoping to make our little corner a fun, interesting, educational place to hang out.

by Evan Grant on Mar 11, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is the kind of answer i was looking for

(and its never a bad thing to write about food, right? haha)

hey between here, newberg report, baseball time in arlington, grant schiller, inside corner, etc i dont know if there is a better group of information for any team out there

glad to have you back — your view on the rangers and the info you gave us was sorely missed!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

but it seems recently that I’ve been reading stuff that’s gotten me even more hyped about the Rangers’ farm than it already has. Must be InsideCorner.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Mar 10, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: Anyone watching this ridiculous Dominican-Netherlands game?

There is a decent shot of seeing the 2 runners on base to start the inning rule in play. I cannot believe that Dominican lineup cannot score off the Dutch pitchers. Wow.

At least Nellie is looking good this game. He saved the DR’s chances earlier with a pretty nice catch

by JBImaknee on Mar 10, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

ugh...

he just missed that ball….. oh well. Looks like the Dominican will advance.

by JBImaknee on Mar 10, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 walks

If I got my peek at yahoo’s box right. Another pretty good thing to see.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Mar 10, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

On a Willy Aybar error yet. I haven’t figured out why Carlos Marmol was sent in to pitch, with Damaso Marte doing only one inning. And Ubaldo Jiminez struck out 12 in his start (4 innings).

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Mar 10, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Typo 10 K's in 4 innings

Not 12.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Mar 10, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

when do they start the 2 runners/base innings

california tie breaker style (wait, i think that is the last batted out goes to 2b to start the inning)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully somebody finds a new home for this...

Here is a pretty interesting piece I found from the LA Times from the Dodger’s perspective about Jones. There are a few pretty interesting quotes in there. I apologize if it has already been linked…

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke10-2009mar10,0,3054794.column?page=1

by laxtonto on Mar 10, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting stuff on Teagarden
I have a lot of questions about Teagarden’s bat and if he’s going to be more than a back up.
Q3) I know you talk to a lot of scouts from all over baseball. Which of these 11 evoked the widest range of opinion?

Goldstein: Teagarden. It goes from everyday big league catcher with power, patience and defense to some who just say he can’t hit. There’s a lot of difference of opinion of Andrus, but not as much as Teagarden. Everybody sees that Andrus is going to be an elite defensive shortstop who can handle the bat OK. The question with him is a matter of degree. With Teagarden, it’s pretty severe. Some scouts are convinced he’s never going to be anything more than a .220 hitter.

Stuff like this is why I just can’t get behind relying on Tea as our everyday catcher unless Max and Salty somehow take themselves out of the equation. Seems when you’ve got a prospect with that wide a range of opinions on his ability, the truth is more likely to be closer to the pessimistic end of the scale.

"You can have such a massive impact on a game even when you're not getting ground balls hit at you." - Michael Young

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2009 12:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't really say that

until we see how Tea hits to start off the season. Give him a couple of months at least: the glove and game-calling will be there, at least.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Mar 11, 2009 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

To me it seems

like Tea is the safe catcher and Salty/Max are the wildcards.

by groundingout on Mar 11, 2009 4:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

equally though

teagarden is a known commodidty, but has a lesser ceiling than the other two right?

or is teagarden’s plus glove and below avg to average bat > salty/maxram’s better hitting and average to below average glove?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't agree here

Teagarden is only safe in that he can definitely help any ML team right now with his defensive abilities. But between his injuries (that argument is diminishing) and his offense (a BA below .250 is pretty likely, so the real question is his OPS) I have a hard time calling him a sure bet starting C.

by clark on Mar 11, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"You can have such a massive impact on a game even when you're not getting ground balls hit at you." - Michael Young

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Health is really the biggest concern

Teagarden is worst case 07 Laird with a better obp and more power. He definitely has the lowest ceiling bat wise but I do think he is the safest bet to be a ML catcher.

by groundingout on Mar 11, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he's '07 Gerald Laird with a little more OBP/SLG, he shouldn't be our starting catcher

I think you’re forgetting how shitty Laird was in 07 (64 OPS+).

It’s something that needs to be allowed to play out, really. I’m just saying I don’t want to see Salty/Max traded off based on Teagarden’s strong defensive reputation alone.

"You can have such a massive impact on a game even when you're not getting ground balls hit at you." - Michael Young

by LSJ on Mar 11, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

equally

this is why i would have moved teagarden+ for buchholtz or bowden/bard combo

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

those trades

were never on the table, or at least I hope they weren’t.

by clark on Mar 11, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

well yea

but remember the whole arguement about teagarden being untouchable, etc im saying that i was in favor of moving teagarden because of 1) the questions about him and 2) i dont think that in a probable sanriio there isnt that much value difference in the 3 catchers

also, what is the major difference in the ’style" of game between teagarden and someone like macumba?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 11, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

cough > confirmation bias > cough

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Mar 11, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's a parrot.

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by t ball on Mar 11, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

heard on mike and mike

that Hamilton chipped a tooth signing autographs. they also listed some funny past Ranger injures

by Mike E on Mar 11, 2009 7:06 AM CDT reply actions  

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