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Dave Cameron on the Rangers

Dave Cameron has the Rangers 12th in his organizational rankings, and runs down where they stand in terms of ownership, front office, and major and minor league talent...

He's a lot more bullish on ownership than I am, but overall, I think he has a real good take on things, and provides reason for Rangers fans to be optimistic going forward...

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That’s a funny way to spell 12.

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by t ball on Mar 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Hicks

Since I’m a fan of all three of his clubs, I will say that I’ve been fairly pleased with him the past few weeks at Liverpool.

Our manager, Rafa Benitez, just got handed a five-year extension, and has been promised £30 million (plus any money he makes off player sales) to acquire new players this summer.

Granted, Liverpool generates a ton more revenue than the Rangers.

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by RCCook on Mar 20, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

CL draw

I’m not thrilled about getting Chelsea again, but I figured Liverpool would have to beat at least one English team on the way to the final, if not two. At least now we’ll get Bayern Munich or Barca if we advance, and there’s no manager better at knocking off Spanish clubs in Europe than Benitez.

In any case, it’s going to be hard going from here on out, but I’m optimistic that after beating United, Chelsea, and Madrid twice this year, that the Reds can win #6.

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by RCCook on Mar 20, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blue>Red

Hoping the Scouse have peaked.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 20, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

How does making money off player sales work for a team manager?

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by hightowersmith on Mar 20, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Player sales

It’s basically a way to recoup some of the money you spend on new players. Ownership usually sets a budget for player purchases each off-season, so selling off players you don’t need gives you a little extra over your allotted budget. Not all clubs do this, but the big ones usually do.

Say you’re told you can spend $20 million (net) to buy a new goalkeeper, midfielder, and forward. If you buy those three, you also have to get rid of the guys they’re replacing. So if you sell the three old players for $10 million, you can then spend $30 million on the new guys and still stay within your net budget.

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by RCCook on Mar 20, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not bad...

although I’m not sure why he considers Millwood the only decent starter, is he that much better than Padilla?

Also, I noticed he had the Marlins at 29? Does that seem too low to anyone else?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 20, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

here's his take on them:

link

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Mar 20, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 20, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make Jeff Loria sound like Hitler.

Dave Cameron says:

Then I may have been too kind.

That’s a good line

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 20, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

His entire justification for that is that he hates Loria. Which is a fair hatred, but they’re a far better organization than anyone else in his bottom eight.

And, for all his evils, Loria has held a World Series trophy, which is more than most of the other owners in baseball have done. And if the Marlins made the playoffs next year, no one would be shocked, whereas if the Padres, Blue Jays, or Reds did, Pigs would likely fly in with the game balls.

(incidentally, Loria used to own the 89ers? I never knew that)

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

I’m fine with hating Loria. However when that is just part of an organizations rating and he gives a B-, B-, and B+ in the Front Office, and Major and Minor League talent areas I can’t see him justifying an overall grade of a D.

I’m sure many here would give Hicks a D or F. Does that mean the Rangers should be lower than they are? There is no way that a fairly new team with 2 WS championships and some very good talent in the Major and Minor leagues is the 2nd worst organization in baseball. Especially given the financial restraints they have to work with. That’s just insane imo.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 20, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since 1997

The Marlins have won more World Series than every team except the Yankees and are tied with the Red Sox. They’ve won it by doing the same thing they are doing now – trade good young players for younger kids who’ll get way better and signing the right veterans at the right time. They’re way better at that than the A’s are (whose ownership is as unhelpful as Loria is, and how many World Series trophies has Beane brought in?). I don’t want to hear that they’re a crappy organization. I’m jealous of them…

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only reason the Blue Jays have no shot at the playoffs is their division.

They’d be at worst an intriguing dark horse in pretty much every other division.

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by thedirkatron on Mar 20, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would agree if Mcgowan and Marcum were healthy

But without I think they could be one of the worst teams in baseball this year.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 20, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

They could really use some offense too

The Jays last year put up a surprisingly good season that a poor offense and ridiculously strong division brought down. They’ve lost Burnett though, gone through some unfortunate injuries, and their offense is still pretty poor. They’re still a team to keep an eye on, but I wouldn’t be too confident about them this year.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Reds?

you do realize they are poised to have one of the best rotations in baseball, right? And as dirk says below, the Jays have some legit talent coming up the system and would be much more competitive if they didn’t play in the same divison as three of the best four teams in baseball.

by clark on Mar 20, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reds = one of best rotations in baseball?

Explain? Its okay, but after Volquez, there are no sure things (and even Volquez has question marks) and its not well suited for their ballpark

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

taking the ballpark out of it

(because they only have to pitch better than the other guy that day) they have a very strong staff. Let’s start with Arroyo, who is basically what the Rangers always hope Millwood will be. Over the last four years, Arroyo has sported an ERA just under 4.50 over 857 innings, so he eats innings with a decent ERA considering the park. Harang has been an above average starter up until last year. Looking at four year avgs, Harang is a 200 inning guy with an ERA below 4 and almost a K per inning, and Arroyo is a 200 inning guy with an ERA under 4.50. That’s not a bad start.

Then you have Volquez and Cueto, who have the potential to be dominant guys with ERAs in the 3s, and they are both controllable on the cheap for many years. they have Homer Bailey and Micah Owings competing for that last spot, and both have been very good this spring. Bailey has front end potential, while Owings is more of a solid 3-4 guy. Sure, there are question marks, but that is a pretty impressive collection of arms with the potential to be a top five rotation.

by clark on Mar 20, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why look at 4 year averages for Arroyo?

He had a great 2006, but saw a sharp drop off the next year and another decline last year. I’m guess the 240 innings in 2006 had something to do with it.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought so too

Especially with the new stadium on the way

by BuckyB on Mar 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

I don’t like his review much.

He gives Daniels a B, which is lower than I’d expect from a guy who should know better. For example, he counts the Danks trade against him, which is a pure hindsight perspective. If you place value in minor league players, his trade ledger is overwhelmingly positive. And part of “front office” is drafting, which has been downright stellar the past few years.

I can’t see how you can give the Rangers front office a ‘B’ when they’ve turned a mediocre farm system into the best in the league in 3 or 4 years, whereas he gives San Diego a ‘B-’ when they’ve alienated their fans, failed to draft or acquire any decent prospects, and built a club that’ll lose 100 games in the weakest division in baseball. Or gives the Mariners a ‘B’ with almost no track record. I guess I see the front office rankings as completely erratic, and so his judgment of Daniels really annoys me.

Likewise, he falls into the “great hitting, horrible pitching” trap of national columnists, with saying Millwood is the one decent guy there. He’s someone who should know better. Now, I don’t like the Rangers pitching, but that is because I think at the top it is weak (Millwood and Padilla are a good #3 and #4, not a #1 and #2). B-Mac, Harrison, Feldman are a fine back-end of a rotation for a developing club.

Wow… Cameron really irks me. Some of his stuff is fantastic, others looks like he just mails it in by regurgitating ESPN analysis. And the high quality and low quality stuff is completely mixed together. I don’t get it.

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you're off base a bit

though I completely understand where you’re coming from. I’m tired of the all hit, no pitch meme — but it’s still true until and unless the pitching gets better. He acknowledged the minor league talent, giving that an A+.

As for Daniels, yes, he gets and A+ for the way he has led the organization’s acquisition of talent and reorganized the scouting and international academy, etc. But you can’t only grade him on that. He has made some very questionable moves every single year, though he has also improved every year and has obviously grown into the job pretty well now. But still, if you’re going to rant about San Diego getting a B- you shouldn’t complain about a B for the Rangers in the front office category. San Diego has been the better major league club most years recently, and their minor league system hasn’t always been this bad. And they have a terrible ownership situation to deal with this winter, mitigating somewhat the responsibility the GM has for this year’s roster situation.

All in all, I think Cameron has a pretty well balanced take, aside from the too rosy view of Hicks.

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by t ball on Mar 20, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I thought his view was pretty well-balanced. His accusations are accurate regarding the pitching staff, although I think you have to include Padilla as a potential plus if you count on Millwood. Padilla is a headcase, no doubt, but when it all clicks, he is a pretty ridiculous pitcher.

Although it does frustrate me to see the B-Mac/Danks trade included as a negative for Daniels, and I think he should’ve at least noted Daniels’s recent drafts, overall it evened out considering how much he values Hicks’s supposed commitment to spending money (which may be a prediction that comes to fruition if/when the team starts seriously contending).

by jwiscarson on Mar 20, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his review of Hicks is right on

He dabbles too much occasionally, but he has proven time and again that he’ll spend money when really needed (except for Juan Cruz, so we should whine forever about Hicks now…). I still see Nolan’s role as keeping Hicks in check, not Daniels. Which I guess is my problem – there is this idea that Daniels is some kid running loose who needs to be controlled.

When Daniels came into the GM role, he had a franchise with little farm system and a team facing a “win-now” set of talent. His moves that first offseason have to be looked at in that light: the Young/AGon trade was motivated by two things: nowhere to play Gonzalez because Teixeira wouldn’t move off first, and the pressure to bolster a bullpen that hurt the team in 2005. The Soriano trade was, in my opinion, a worse deal. But it too wasn’t horrendous at the time. JD was trying to build a competitor with the pieces he had at the moment. He made first year mistakes and was taken advantage of by his colleagues since he was a rookie.

Since then though, his mistakes haven’t been major. Danks/B-Mac was just baseball fate going against us – nothing more. The whole Sosa thing? Far too overblown around here – Botts proved that he wasn’t worth the aggravation. The Michael Young contract? Probably as much Hicks as Daniels, and it provided stability the organization needed with seeing Teixeira bolt and Soriano get dealt for peanuts. Gallaragga? Who cares. Ron Washington? Hicks more than JD, and passing on the alternative (Trey Hillman) hasn’t shown to be a mistake.

Put another way, since Daniels has been GM, the Rangers would have climbed such an organization depth chart every year – probably from high 20s in 2006 about 4-5 spots every season. Now they are 12th. We all know Hicks hasn’t helped with that. That is a huge annual improvement.

As for the Padres, every argument you have can be said for the Astros. They’re parallel organizations. They each had success in the mid-decade, but drafted horribly and focused on propping up aging clubs as opposed to building long-term depth. The ownership of each has been awful, which is very true. Yet Towers gets love and Houston gets bashed? I don’t get it.

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I concur with this assessment.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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by Rodney on Mar 20, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

You thought that the A Gon/C Young deal wasn’t horrendous at the time?

Ballsy.

I’m curious what about the 2005 79-83 finish behind a 95-67 LA team and 88-74 Oakland team made people thinking that the Rangers were in a “win-now” scenario.

Not only that, I’m still waiting for a cogent argument that 1 year of Eaton and 4 years of a 34-yo reliever (albeit a good reliever) were worth 5 years of at least a #3 pitcher and 6 years of a 24-yo former #1 overall draft pick who’d done well in his previous stops.

R

by Requiem on Mar 20, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The San Diego recent track record

He specifically says in there that he isn’t judging them on what they have done historically. San Diego fielding a winning team a few years ago isn’t relevant at all in the discussion of how likely they are to win a World Series in the future.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

So by that logic

why is Daniels being harangued for his rookie mistakes?

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can sort of understand that

Looking at what a GM has done in the past can be relevant to what they’ll do in the future and how good of a GM they can be. I wouldn’t hold what JD did at the beginning of 2006 against him since he has shown that he learns from past mistakes, but I can understand why someone might. Past team records on the other hand aren’t relevant at all

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it raises questions

about his ability to polish off a contender with astute roster management and trades for missing pieces.

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by t ball on Mar 20, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed on JD

One thing that needs to be mentioned in the negative for JD is JD, and really the Rangers, haven’t taken a single pitching prospect and developed him into a MLer.

In fact, even the opposite can be argued – that the Rangers inhibit development at the major league level. Looking at BMac it’s possible the injuries he sustained are in part due to the Rangers screwing with him. And that Danks exceeded the expectation he had from his minor league performance due to the things the Sox did with him.

In addition to this, I think it can also be argued that tBPiA is exceedingly difficult to develop pitchers in. Guys like Doug Davis are prime examples. The guy throws a 4.45 ERA as a 25 y.o. and we get rid of him; with an ERA+ of 106!? I’d argue that the ballpark aided in a lesser perception of him than was warranted.

I’m not saying it can’t and won’t be done, or that the Rangers won’t break that cycle. However, until JD, Hicks, and the rest of the front office demonstrates the skill and the patience to develop pitchers from the minors into the majors they should be downgraded slightly because of this.

by gr7070 on Mar 20, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

He factored in the previous decisions of the front office for every team

so in that aspect at least, it’s not all about going forward. Although he is not wrong to say that Millwood is the only decent starter – this is statistically supported by their performances last season. Also, we were really good at hitting. There are no details, but on the “big picture” side, that stereotype still holds for now.

by Telegraph on Mar 20, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to FIP maybe

but Padilla was every bit as good as Millwood last year if not better.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millwood was a decent starter last year?

I’m sorry, but 170 IP with an ERA+ of 87 isn’t going to cut it for me. That isn’t “decent starter” territory, it is mediocre back-end guy territory.

Matt Harrison was erratic, but showed a lot of promise. BMac was effective but not healthy. If there is any reason to be optimistic, it is them – not Millwood or Padilla

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth...

Millwood’s FIP was a full run below his ERA (4.02 vs. 5.07).

Not fantastic, mind you, but a 4.00 ERA would’ve made his ERA+ 109.

by jwiscarson on Mar 20, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dirkatron is going to punt a baby if he reads this

But his FIP was deceiving. Look at what he did past BBs, Ks, and HRs. If you watched him on the field, you were probably extremely underwhelmed and that’s because he was just underwhelming. The defense did screw him a bit just like it screwed every other pitcher on the staff, but he simply wasn’t good last year.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't kick the baby

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Mar 20, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

the defense didn't help Millwood

and Millwood didn’t help the defense. I believe he gave up more line drives than anybody in baseball.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 20, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm amazed

that hitters could catch up to that 89/90 mph heat.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

Milly 89 mph heat + bat =110 mph line drive

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 20, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 20, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No his FIP was deceiving.

I’m too lazy to open a new tab and search it up, but it has him at around 4.1, iirc.

He was better than his surface stats would lead you to believe, but not THAT much better. 4.1 is pretty damn good.

Realistically I think his true level last year was a LAIE, when people around here treat him like he’s a black hole of suck… which he wasn’t.

And I’ve said it before, we need more LAIE’s.

A team full of LAIE’s + league average defense (which I think we could realistically have this year or at the very least by ’10) + our ridiculous offense would = playoffs.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555, throwing one of his patented sandy-vagina'd hissy fits.

by thedirkatron on Mar 21, 2009 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing I'm not as lazy as philkid :D

His tRA last year was 5.26 and his tRA+ was 92 which means he was crappy last year. And since he pitched only 168.2 innings over 29 starts, he was not even a good innings eater for this team. So according to tRA, he wasn’t really near league average and since he couldn’t average even 6 innings a start nor make all of his starts, he wasn’t a good innings eater. With his actual ERA of 5.07 included in this discussion, he was a black hole of suck.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 21, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Belated response, but...

You’re right. I even thought as I typed out his FIP, “tRA is a much better stat. I should really use it instead.”

Regardless, I found it interesting that he recorded 21 fewer expected outs than actual outs, but that only translated to one more expected run than actual run. At any rate, I think dirkatron’s right and he’s basically a LAIE.

by jwiscarson on Mar 23, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Daniels and all

but for his overall performance to date, a “B” is probably generous enough. Until he can counter the “dream rotation” that he has traded or released with a rotation that equals it, he will take shit. It’s that simple.

by clark on Mar 20, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm having trouble seeing consistency in his grading of that category

Now that I’ve scanned his other reviews, considering that a ‘B’ is the highest grade he’s handed out so far, I can’t really complain too much about it.

I just don’t get how he’s grading front offices. If you are grading based on how they’ve guided their club to their current situation, then you have to give Kevin Towers a much lower grade. If you are going off of past successes, then you have to give guys like Dombrowski higher grades.

It seems like he’s basically giving the sabermetric-minded GMs a positive bias, and the more old school guys lower grades. And then he’s arbitrarily applying past results to some people and not others. As much as I hate Sabean as a GM (who he gave a ’D’), you have to admit the Giants are in better shape than the Padres right now due to Sabean & co.‘s drafting, and both GMs have had similar successes and failures over the past decade. He gives Jocketty a ’C’ based solely on the fact he isn’t upgrading Cincy’s analysis like he’d like.

Anyway, I guess I’m complaining that Daniels is only one spot above Towers, who is simply a bad GM, imo, and the same as Seattle, who really hasn’t done all that much yet. Overall, it just looks like a case of him overrating Towers instead of underrating JD & co.

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

My take on Towers

So I pay only peripheral attention to the Padres – probably like you with Houston. And since I’ve lived in SD, I’ve just noticed how their team doesn’t

  • The Padres haven’t developed any sort of reliable farm system. I think the Matt Bush pick is not merely an aberration, but rather indicative of their inability to judge talent. They have had almost no results from the first round in this decade – Matt Antonelli is the only real prospect to emerge from the first round in six years, and his prospecty-ness is not great. They’ve routinely opted for affordability over quality in drafts, which is generally a failing strategy. Yes, that is a function of weak ownership, but also just a weakness in priority setting.
  • Their ballpark is a challenge, basically the anti-Coors field. That said, it doesn’t seem like he has a good strategy to use it to his advantage. Chris Young was a smart move – get a good arm cheap because of his fly-ball tendencies that aren’t a problem here. But he hasn’t stuck with that model. Its kind of a
  • Likewise, offensively I don’t see a strategy to overcome Petco’s effects. In a ballpark where slugging is going to be depressed for everyone, it doesn’t make sense to me to hang onto guys like Khalil Greene (who he finally dealt) and Kevin Kouzmanoff. No one is going to hit home runs in Petco. It isn’t like it has big foul territory or other biases though. High BA, high OBP but lower SLG guys seem well suited for the park (indeed, the slap-hitting singles-driven Japanese WBC team thrived here). Guys like Klesko, Nevin (whose contract was epically bad), and Piazza at his end were just not guys to build around.
  • Same with speed. Since you can’t slug your way through Petco, you should be quick, both in the field and on the basepaths. I’m not advocating “traditional” ball, but smarter base running and good defense would help. Also, the Padres don’t defend against the run at all, basically allowing other teams to steal ad nauseum. Its as if Towers read somewhere “Base stealing isn’t as effective as people think” and decided that holding runners was no longer important.
  • In trades Towers has done okay, the Bay/Perez for Giles deal was not great, but worked okay. We all know about AGon and Young. Traded high on Josh Barfield.

Anyway, I’m sure some of those points can probably be addressed. But generally, I think the Padres put a bad, boring product on the field, and that isn’t solely the bad ownership’s fault. Even in years that they’ve moved to the playoffs, they weren’t a good team and did so based on a horrendous division.

by JBImaknee on Mar 20, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am curious to see

where Oakland lands. I would think that our collective major and minor league talent is slightly above theirs, and I would think our owner is slightly above theirs. So it really comes down to how much he loves Billy Beane.

by clark on Mar 20, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

What is the deal

with all the vitriol between Cameron and the commentators over there?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 20, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

No shit.

I had to quite reading.

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Mar 20, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you "quite" reading?

:D

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 20, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eeasily!

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Mar 20, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

get ready for upper mediocrity

here we come baby!

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Mar 20, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

at least we are trending upwards.

if Hicks proves he is willing to spend money again when the time is right (and that cannot be assumed) then our org looks poised to be a very competitive team for the foreseeable future.

by clark on Mar 20, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

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