Sunday morning things
The Rangers win, Kevin Millwood goes 6 innings, and the Rangers are on FSSW today at 3:05. Life is good.
However, we have a new twist to what seemed to be a pretty set roster...Evan Grant reports that the Rangers are contemplating keeping Andruw Jones on the roster as the righthanded DH. According to Grant, the Rangers are concerned about the lineup being too left-handed, and that Chris Davis's early struggles will translate into a bad early-season slump. Keeping Jones as the righty DH, then, would let the Rangers have a righty bat in the lineup against lefties, with Jones and Blalock being in a platoon of sort, or Davis sitting against a lot of lefties, with Blalock moving to first base.
That's fine, I guess, if Jones hits...which he hasn't done for the past two years. But I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what the team is doing here. The team has been heavily left-handed since the offseason started, and while there were rumors of some interest in a couple of righty bats, it apparently wasn't deemed enough of a problem to actually get a righty who could hit into the organization.
Jones was brought in, meanwhile, with the idea that he could be a plus defensive centerfielder who would allow Josh Hamilton to move to right field. Instead, his defense in center has been viewed as a problem, he's struggled at the plate, and the perception has been that he's going to be unhappy if he gets limited playing time...and despite that, the team is considering keeping him on as a part-time DH?
If you are really worried about the team being too left-handed, just plug in Marlon Byrd at DH against some lefthanders (since the team seems committed to playing David Murphy everyday, rather than platooning him). Or get someone who can actually hit lefties, rather than Jones, who is coming off a couple of bad offensive seasons and hasn't exactly torn it up this spring.
Last season, a bad start by the team, Ben Broussard's struggles and a fear of being too lefthanded resulted in a bit of a panic move in dropping Jason Botts -- who they were supposedly committed to -- and bringing up Chris Shelton, who did nothing. This season, fear of a bad start and being too lefthanded and worries about Chris Davis's spring struggles suggests they may be going into panic mode again, bringing Jones -- who isn't likely to hit any better than Shelton did last year -- in as an ad hoc solution to try to fix a perceived problem.
What this also suggests, to me, is a lack of faith by at least some folks in the organization in Chris Davis. If you recall, we heard repeatedly after Davis came up last season (and played well) that it was only temporary, that Davis wasn't going to stay up and would get sent back to the minors. And even after Davis stayed up, he was relegated to the bottom third of the lineup -- starting only one game higher in the lineup than 7th -- with the excuse being that Davis hadn't proven himself and earned a spot higher in the lineup, while Joaquin Arias was hitting leadoff.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong...but I get the feeling this may be about making Chris Davis, who someone (Washington, Jaramillo, whomever) isn't quite sold on, a part-time player, at least early in the season. Particularly given that Washington's job is dependent on getting off to a decent start this year...
Moving on...
Richard Durrett offers his thoughts on Jones v. Cat for the last bench spot. T.R. Sullivan weighs in on the end of the bench fight -- saying the "rank and file" in the organization think Jones can turn it around, but that Tom Hicks refuses to release Frank Catalanotto and eat his contract -- along with his thoughts on Joaquin Arias.
Jeff Wilson talks about two new bullpen candidates -- Jason Jennings and Jimmy Gobble. Both seem likely to start the season at AAA, and Jennings seems more likely to end up in the AAA rotation anyway, but they both apparently will be considered for bullpen roles over the next couple of weeks.
Wilson also discusses the importance of starting pitching depth to the Rangers, who have had a hard time keeping the same 5 guys in their rotation the past several years.
Wilson and Sullivan both talk about the possibility of a Josh Hamitlon contract extension, which apparently is moving to the front burner over the next week or two.
Jim Reeves thinks the WBC shouldn't be played in March.
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Andruw Jones has no spot on the roster
He’s proven nothing more than Chris Davis has with his spring stats.
I think it would be a bad overreaction if that is the line of reasoning. The lineup thing with Wash and Davis is also confusing.
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by Chase Irwin on Mar 22, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any roster with Cat on it
has space for Andruw Jones if thats the direction they decide to go.
I’m not sold on Jones, but since Cat is basically a dead spot on the roster, replacing him with Jones causes no big issues.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
On the contrary
If Jones endears himself to Wash (or already has) replacing Cat with Jones could turn into a very big playing time issue.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope
Wash will play Andruw more than he should be. I’d rather have Cat just here to sit the bench.
by Mike E on Mar 22, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then your issue
is that JD is a freaking idiot for keeping Wash.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, as I said in the other post
It does go back to the GM when you have a manager who you can’t trust to make good decisions and he sticks around.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 22, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it's getting tiresome
thinking about ways the front office can construct the roster so that Washington can’t possibly screw up playing time.
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by t ball on Mar 22, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole concept
that you’d rather keep a basicly worthless player, like Cat, because your manager can’t be trusted to use someone who may or may not have something left in the tank is just annoying.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Mar 23, 2009 5:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is...
Cat is not a worthless player. Since the money’s gone no matter what, might as well keep his bat as the 25th man on the roster. He’s a good pinch hitter and even though he’s nowhere near as good as he used to be and is a lefty bat, Jones is not the guy we should try and replace him with.
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by Gdawg on Mar 23, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least with Cat
you know they won’t play him over someone like Davis.
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by t ball on Mar 22, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Davis needs to face all but the very toughest lefites
He is going to be in this lineup for years to come and never facing them certainly won’t help. This isn’t a 28 year old with 5 years of failure against them or something.
Besides, he had a .916 ops against them anyway… he may only be able to hit mistake pitches vs lefties, but most lefties seem to make quite a few of those and he hits them a long way..
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Mar 22, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stats
checked his spring stats because I know he had been doing poorly and wanted to see exactly what they were…
.373 obp? Good news to me. I’m not exactly worried that hes going to slug .350 in april.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Mar 22, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sullivan article
He reports that the “rank and file” in the organization think Jones can turn it around.
This has to be Jaramillo, right? I think Rudy is a great hitting coach but completely unequipped to be making roster decisions. Let him do what is great at, teaching hitting, but don’t give him any say in how the roster is built.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Mar 22, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I took that to mean
the rank and file of the players
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 22, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took it to mean...
…the coaching staff.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 22, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah you're probably right
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 22, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But don't question R-Jar
shame on you
by BuckyB on Mar 22, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that doesnt make sense
I wouldnt let Rudy negotiate contracts, but if your trying to figure out if a guy can hit or not, and thats what determines if he stays, I think Rudy’s opinion is probably pretty valid.
by blueballlefty on Mar 22, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would think so
but there are a lot of cases where he’s been way off on whether guys could do well. Nix, Sosa for two. You could probably say that he was right on Carlos Pena, though a .251/.355/.496 career line isn’t too bad.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 22, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many teachers
are too optimistic/hopeful about their students. I think Rudy believes they’ll perform in games as well as he can see them performing in his head and won’t quit on that potential even when it’s time to cut bait.
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by t ball on Mar 22, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm
what more would you have liked Sosa to do? I dont think anyone expected 60HRs out him, he came here and hit like he was suppose to, BA of .250+, 20+HRs, 90+RBIs, OPS of .750+, I think Sammy gets a bad rap for his time here, when I think we would love Nelson Cruz if he had those #‘s this year, and I dont think Sammy had a dozen AB’s after the all star break
by blueballlefty on Mar 22, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't disappointed in Sosa
I was disappointed in the Rangers being misguided enough to think that he was still a positive net impact playing most every day. .252/.311/.468 from your DH is not good, no matter how you try to dance around the numbers.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 22, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think the problem with Sammy
had more to do with how Wash used him. You can use a player who hits 1000 OPS against one side of the platoon. If Cat could hit 1000 OPS against a side of the platoon instead of 750 or so, he wouldn’t be so useless.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
if Sammy would have hit .285, would his time here been a success? the only number, that he had that was low, was his avg. ., and I think he was one of our best DH’s this decade. Im not saying he’s was an all-star, just very serviceable as a dh
by blueballlefty on Mar 22, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
the only number, that he had that was low, was his avg.
False. His .311 OBP absolutely reeked and a .468 SLG% isn’t anything special for a DH. Sosa did one thing well in 2007, and that was hit left-handed pitching – unfortunately, Wash played him so much against righties it more than offset any value his lefty-mashing may have had in the overall line.
Fun fact: Frank Catalanotto had a higher OPS+ (104) than Sammy Sosa in 2007.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Nelson Cruz has...
….a .252/.311/.468 line this year, everyone will be disappointed in him
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 22, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's hitting like that as of the ASB
the majority of people will be ready to give up on him, and he isn’t 38.
by Brett Perryman on Mar 22, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if he finishes the season with that line?
by oc on Mar 22, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon you just threw his career line out there.
I didn’t know it was so obvious that after four years and 850 at-bats he’d still be worth a damn.
by oc on Mar 22, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not if he has
20HR’s and 80+RBI’s at the break, I think that would be a pretty successful first half for him.
by blueballlefty on Mar 22, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and there's the problem
There’s much more to a player’s value than just HRs and RBIs
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by Gdawg on Mar 22, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think Im....
putting too much into that, just if you add those numbers with a .800 ops and a .250 batting avg, I know the elitist on here, always want to argue that HR’s and RBI’s are fake stats and don’t mean anything, maybe I’m just a simpleton but a HR still means more to me than a double, and I still think that getting a hit with a runner in scoring position means something, and it wasnt just a law of avg. that it was your time to get another hit.
by blueballlefty on Mar 23, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took it to mean Rudy.
I’ll begin to worry about this in about a week.
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by rooster on Mar 22, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richard Durrett weighs in
with more stupidity on how it costs $6 million to cut Cat. Everytime I read this from one of our financially illiterate sportswriters it makes me cringe.
If they want to say it costs half a million (the delta cost incurred by signing Jones) I have no problem with it. However, that $6 million decision was made years ago, and there is nothing you can do to get that money back.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I concur.
You’d think you could expect more from a professional paid for his opinion.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Mar 22, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it sounds like Hicks is thinking the same way
which is baffling
by BuckyB on Mar 22, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reeves
I will go a little further…..the WBC shouldn’t be played at all.
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by DaheelzCM on Mar 22, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Carve out three weeks every four years and put baseball into the Olympics.
Starting the season a few days earlier, ending it a few days later, going back to scheduling some double-headers, cutting out the All-Star Game that year, and/or cutting 5-10 games off the schedule are all options I think could get the time in the middle of the season needed to get real baseball into the Olympics, which would be really, really cool.
Or just do nothing and leave the WBC as is.
But I think there’s some merit in having an international baseball tournament, even as lame as the WBC is.
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by thedirkatron on Mar 22, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the WBC
It happens once every 4 years; it’s got good competition for the most part; its match format puts a lot of weight on a single game – making the games more interesting.
The whole thing deviates a lot from what we know baseball to be. Luck and roster management plays a much bigger role in how far a team gets, and there is much greater chance for weaker teams (talent-wise) to pull upsets. It won’t really tell you anything about who is the most powerful baseball nation in the world – no matter how much it pretends to, but heck, it’s pretty darn entertaining.
by Telegraph on Mar 22, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's an every 2 years thing btw
it’s been 3 since the last one, but that was because of the Olympics in ’08
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by Dirk Diggler on Mar 22, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to MLB, it's once every 4 years
Link in the last sentence of the last paragraph
You are correct about the 3 year gap this time due to Olympics
by Telegraph on Mar 22, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm I stand corrected
I swear I had heard the next one was going to be 2011. Hmm…
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 22, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
21-gun salute
One final salute to retired Col. William F. Sullivan, highly decorated Vietnam war hero and former commander of the 282nd Assault Helicopter Company.
He raised a heck of a baseball writer in Kevin “T.R.” Sullivan.
Winner of the Legion of Merit with oak cluster, Col. Sullivan was 77 when he died two weeks ago in Seattle.
I hope your grief is healing TR, peace.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Mar 22, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Second the emotion
And there is a folded flag, framed and cherished.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
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by Ed Coffin on Mar 22, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thirded
I didn’t know TR’s dad was an American hero. RIP.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaramillo project
It sure sounds like the Rudy Reclamation machine is the basic reason for Andrum lingering on. I don’t know if past cases where it’s up to Rudy to reform a bat were given more time to work out or be dropped, but this seems to me to be the situation now. No one expects every Rudy Reclamation to work, he must be either pretty sure this one will, or so undecided he won’t drop kick Andruw.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Mar 22, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Washington is behind this, fine
let him hang himself.
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by t ball on Mar 22, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More contract talk...
If the Rangers could buy out 2 of Hamilton’s FA years I’d be excited to see this thing done. Give him a 5 year deal for somewhere in between what Kinsler and Pedroia recieved. Say 30 million, what do you think?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Mar 22, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the comment
give him 8 years 100 mil
by BuckyB on Mar 22, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 5 year deal
That would only buy out 1 f.a. year.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 22, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends when it starts
If it starts after this season then it buys out 2. If it replaces his current contract then yeah only 1
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I’d say $30 million would only get you 4 years.
$42-46 million for 5 years, $60 million for 6 years.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 22, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
today's lineup and Jones update
the meat…
He’s not gonig to make the Opening Day roster as a starter, but could as a fifth outfielder who could also be the designated hitter against left-handers. So, he’s looking at 280 at-bats or so if … a) he wants to be a reserve after so many years as a superstar; b) the Rangers are able to move either Frank Catalanotto or Hank Blalock; or c) agent Scott Boras doesn’t find a better situation for him. Jones said he will decide by Monday whether to opt out of his minor-league contract and become a free agent or accept a reduced role with the Rangers.
So Wilson is saying that the rangers would have to move (trade) Cat in oder for Jones to have a roster spot. Not likely.
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Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
%$^
Games on TV and we get to see Melhuse catching and Mendoza pitching. :(
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's actually much better than KRLD said yesterday.
At the end of the game, they said Josh was the only big name regular making the trip…so that’s a good.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Mar 22, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posnanski from SI on Gobble
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 22, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Posnanski may be the most readable baseball writer going
Always a good read, always acute.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Mar 22, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay!
we get to see Andrus today!
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
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by Longhorn on Mar 22, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont like the sound of this
It seems like every year we have a sideshow Sammy or Ben Broussard and now Andruw that are over the hill and do nothing except clog up the roster and maybe block a younger player. I strongly suspect this is Warsh’s doing. My already thin confidence in him is evaporating quickly with moves like this. If they want someone to hit leftys, why not bring back Sideshow Sammy
by BEW on Mar 22, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sideshows
I place the blame on JD. He is the captain of the SS Ranger and Washington is just his firstmate.
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by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I suppose you could lay some of the blame on JD for his constant reclamation projects
But it’s not necessarily his fault that the manager likes to overplay and misuse veteran roleplayers.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Doesn’t it seem like this is a good way to minimize Blalock, Byrd, and Jones’ trade values?
by BuckyB on Mar 22, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What
trade values? None of those, except for maybe Byrd, have any trade value.
Get off my lawn.
by DJCahill on Mar 22, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially Blalock
Who would want a part time DH? He needs to DH fulltime with occasional starts at 1B and 3B to maximize his value.
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by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only "young player" that has been blocked by any of these "sideshows" was Jason Botts
And he has shown himself to not be ML caliber so I am not losing any sleep over that. Broussard didn’t block anybody and Andruw wouldn’t be blocking anyone. Unless of course you want a young player like Boggs to be sitting the bench getting half a dozen ABs a week instead of playing everyday in AAA
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My main concern is Davis
I am worried that, particularly early in the season with Washington knowing another 9-18 type start means he’s gone, we’ll get a steady diet of Blalock at 1B and Jones at DH, with Davis as a part-time player.
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 22, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Rangers go 9-18
then Wash needs to go wether he plays Davis fulltime or not. Anything less than .500 at the end of April would be a disappointment.
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by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The sudden lack of faith in CD is really concerning. If they really feel he can’t be played against lefties and won’t snap out of his spring funk once the season starts then they might as well build a last minute pre-season deal around him for a pitcher instead of letting him sit on the bench.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why Davis' spring stats are considered to be so atrocious
As Dshep mentioned, he’s got a .373 OPB in the spring. We all know that he can hit for power, but also that he doesn’t know how to take a walk. Now he is showing the ability to get on base. If anything, his spring performance so far should be a cause for optimism.
All that said, spring stats are really meaningless. The only thing that I see is that he is striking out a lot, which can be a cause for concern, but he is walking more too. I don’t understand where the panic is coming from.
by Telegraph on Mar 22, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, good point
Even Smoak only OBP’d .320 this spring. So it’s not like CD has been truly atrocious, like Travis Metcalf or Teagarden.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bringing Smoak into this is irrelevant
Davis has half a season in the bigs under his belt. Smoak has been a pro all of 6 months. Although I agree Davis’ spring hasn’t been as bad as made out to be
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
All I was doing is illustrating Davis’ spring hasn’t been atrocious.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Smoak OBPs has no bearing on anything though
Now maybe next year when they are potentially in competition for 1B then it may be relevant but right now its not
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I'm saying is that Smoak, who has been considered impressive this spring
Actually had a much lower OBP than Davis, who has been considered horrible. It was more of a comparison of the evaluation of spring stats, not the two players themselves.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak has been impressive because he was in college stil a year ago
After Davis’ season last year you would have liked to see him come into spring and pick up where he left off. His walks have been a nice suprise and show hes improving there but otherwise hes been pretty bad.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is not about blocking
a younger player is is about repeating mistakes of the past. Jones has no future with the Rangers same as Sosa. Keep Cat and let him PH/5th OFer.
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by RangerMad on Mar 22, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather not have either one on the 25
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
by boomer1 on Mar 22, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
But at this point Jones is probably the only player Cat is getting dropped from the roster for. Only problem is, I’m starting to think Cat is actually the lesser of the two evils.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what future does Cat have with the team?
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None, but at least he's not going to give Wash an excuse to bench Chris Davis.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, it's actually a great day to do that out here.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm asking you politely to cut back on the Wash flaming.
by oc on Mar 22, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never.
Wash sucks.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And also, I wasn't "flaming" him
I’m saying I’m concerned about his propensity to fall in love with and overplay veteran roleplayers.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash isn't going to bench Chris Davis, you twit.
by oc on Mar 22, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not altogether
But I could see Wash benching Davis against left-handers, which is simply stupid considering his splits last year and his minor league stats.And that could be significant considering Davis is supposed to still be making adjustments this year.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's okay
then Murphy and Davis can sit in the clubhouse and comfort each other
by Telegraph on Mar 22, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine hed only get benched against the top lefties
Your Kazmirs and Sabathias not your Evelands and such.
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even then
I think he needs to be in the lineup against a Kazmir or a Sabathia to see if he can rise to the challenge.
I mean it would be one thing if Davis had a history of struggling against lefties, but he doesn’t. He’s been strong against them in the minors, and hit them well in his time in the majors last year two. I just don’t see any reason to bench him against lefties period, unless he actually shows an inability to hit them.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well right now hes showing an inability to hit most everything
Which is probably why theres this talk about him sitting some against lefties
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how to feel about this Adam.
Should I be upset about the Blalock signing? Is this a sign that the Rangers are unsure about what they have in Nelson Cruz also? He’s the only righty on this roster with the closest chance of slugging the way Bradley did in the middle of the order.
And again, I don’t know why you would choose to play Jones over Byrdman. I would be perfectly fine with Marlon as my everyday centerfielder.
It seems a line-up of Kinsler, Young, Cruz, Byrd and one of the catchers should be enough to break up the lefties.
by oc on Mar 22, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its not necessarily the number of lefties its where they are in the lineup
They are all clustered in the middle of the order and if you squeeze Byrd and Cruz in there to break them up it is forcing good players furthur down the lineup i.e; Chris Davis hitting 7th or 8th.
Plus both Byrd and Cruz playing will most likely mean no Murphy which I don’t see happening on a consistent basis.
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by bigsteve on Mar 22, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd also like to know why Murphy is such a sure shot.
by oc on Mar 22, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Wash, Nolan and everyone else in the organization
Seem to have a perpetual hard-on for him. It’s almost like the org has bought into the “Rusty Greer II” hype from last year.
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by lonestarJon on Mar 22, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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