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Sherrington defends Andruw Jones

Kevin Sherrington has a blog entry up about why it is a good idea for the Rangers to roll with Andruw Jones.

His arguments in a nutshell:

1)  We should trust Rudy Jaramillo

2)  Andruw might work out as well as Sammy Sosa, and if he does, the Rangers will be happy

3)  Someone might get hurt, and then what?  (Because it isn't as if we have anyone in the minors who could play the outfield and DH, I guess)

4)  Blalock is as much of a gamble as Jones

 

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lol

I bet your head almost exploded when you read point 2.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 24, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

did mine

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was point 2 the HR/RBI thing about Sosa?

Yeah, I stopped reading after that.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

You all know where this is headed right?

a season full visiting this sight daily to see what new way Adam has discovered to express his displeasure with the Sosa Signing of 2009 taking at bats away from Cruz.

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Mar 24, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Scrap Hughes

via mlbtr.com

Sherman says the Yankees are not positive about offering Wang an elite free agent contract after the 2010 season (note: I believe Wang may not be free agent-eligible until after 2011). This uncertainty has caused the Yanks to “weigh trade scenarios in the past involving Wang.” Sherman adds, “I have yet to talk to a Yankee official who is fully committed to keeping him long-term.”

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 24, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I can see the headline now

“Yankees to let go of Wang”

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Salty-Wang a possibility"

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 24, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

With all this hilariousness

I can see why my post wasn’t funny.

Lol.

by iorange555 on Mar 24, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yankees tossing the Wang off...

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang could be had

But only if the price is right…

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Mar 24, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha good one

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winner.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang nabs it in the hole

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahh...

Wang removed after sticky substance is found…

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

After not making the 25 man roster

Wang…. just couldnt cut it

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

After which there would be

Viagra found in Wang’s OKC locker.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang blows prematurely

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang ejected early

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang gets loose then stiffens up again

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang removed for relief

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Mar 24, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang comes at you from a 3/4 angle.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Mar 24, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang excited to pitch!!

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do not know this feeling

Mine did look forward to hitting, though.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam

by Brett Perryman on Mar 24, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol hitting "it" huh

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if yours hits then it's ...

“Wang drives it home!!”

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

switch-hitting Wang now up

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 24, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang has long balls today.

Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.

by BigGuns on Mar 24, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shouldnt that be

Wash pulls out Wang

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, in the GDT's, it would be

“Looks like its time to pull Wang.”

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

After injury

Wang pulls something
Relief felt after Wang’s tightness goes away

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang goes up and in, makes batter scream in pain

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang goes off on the ss

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang has nasty curve

Love it.

rec

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Mar 24, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang drills batter

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

... in the earhole.

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"You brought the Pomeranian bowling?"

by Updog on Mar 25, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers acquire pitching combo Wang and Chung

Ranger fans have fun tonight

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ranger fans have fun tonight

red3biggs

You get my vote for MVP tonight brotha

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Mar 24, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I only wish i could have found a real player named Chung sigh

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty tells Wash "I'm tired of being Wang's reciever"

No one else willing to assume the position for him either

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Against the White Sox Wang caught in painful spot when he left his balls up

Hawk ponders outloud “How’d you get the beans above the frank?”

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

After two years without Yanks, Torre asks Cashman for his Wang back

Thats my last one i promise

…until i wake up tomorrow…

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wang falls behind with 2 balls...

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"You brought the Pomeranian bowling?"

by Updog on Mar 25, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

roberto alomar was the batter

Testing expected to follow

"I Blame Mark Conner"

by red3biggs on Mar 24, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fans jack Wang up in heat of the moment

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wang rubs one out

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 24, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good lord

Why is this continuing?

"Obama is a Christian - He's always been a Christian...But.........what if he is[a Muslim]? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer is no, that's not America." Colin Powell on Obama/Muslim assertions.

by AirJordan on Mar 24, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, considering the article the thread was the subject of

There’s not really much else to do.

And, like red said, we’re all really 14 y/o’s at heart.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

wouldnt that

be a premature ejection given the Rangers relief options?

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Mar 25, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blalock for Wang...

make it happen JD.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Mar 24, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope.

Not funny sounding enough.

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Mar 24, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Wang solid, bullpen blows it"

It’s funny and plausible.

Don't you ever damn call here again

by SaltyDawg on Mar 24, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Look what you did

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 25, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

72 replies to what Lonestar Jon started, all on the exact same (juvenile, though hilarious) topic. I counted.

Well done Jon. That could arguably be some kind of record.

Man I need to get a life.

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Mar 25, 2009 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, I think this is my first time starting a juvenile yet hilarious subthread

Don’t think it’s a record, but I’m still proud.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 25, 2009 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Mar 25, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Awesome.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 25, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin - get out of town

Make it happen. Do it now. Find a job that fills your needs, but stay away from journalism. Oh … and don’t even think about baseball.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Mar 24, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Adam

Would it be safe to assume you’re not in favor of the Rangers keeping Andruw Jones? Just wondering where you stand on this issue.

by Kyle Mc on Mar 24, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

don't worry

you’ve got all summer to learn how much he hates this

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Mar 24, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's probably right.

Slammin’ Sammy is Jones’ upside.

I was not worried about the Jones’ saga until Nolan spoke up with a favorable opinion of Jones.

JD: Adamant about 78 wins in 2009. Go Rangers!

by rooster on Mar 24, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

He probably shouldn't have a big say in the 25 or 40 man.

Other than maybe setting the budget or in the acquisition of players who might exceed the budget.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Mar 24, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Mar 24, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: Slammin’ Sammy is Jones’ upside

Actually, if Jones could hit like Sosa did and play CF like he did a couple years ago, he has value.

His inability to play a good CF is actually more disturbing to me than his hitting this spring. If he can’t play CF, he’s got no value.

by Darrell McKown on Mar 24, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

And we can add Sherrington to the list...

…of columnists who must die or stop writing about baseball.

We couldn't have known it at the time but we definitely killed the wrong Belushi brother.

by Chad Crudup on Mar 25, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

"Blogger" condescension .....

can’t get enough of it, thanks Sherrington.

by jcAustin on Mar 25, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

this is so incredibly stupid

Columnists don’t have to stay in the realm of reality do they?

Another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, and another one bites the dust!

by NothinG on Mar 25, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

WHAT EVERY FAN NEEDS TO KNOW

WHAT EVERY FAN NEEDS TO KNOW..

I read a column in yesterday’s Fort Worth Star-Telegram, not by the general columnist with the Mad Libs piece he churns out every few weeks when it’s time for a Rangers theme, but instead by the venerable Jim Reeves. The headline, which Reeves probably didn’t write himself, blares out that the Rangers are "studying ways to trim their payroll." The lede, after suggesting that Tom Hicks would like to cut another $20 million from the team’s payroll before 2010, declares that, if it were to happen, "[i]t might just incite a riot among an already restless and frustrated Rangers fandom."

 

That’s exactly what the column was designed to do.

 

But read the quotes, which there are many of, in the story.

 

I don’t see where Hicks said he is looking to cut payroll as an objective in itself.

 

I do see where he tells Reeves: "There’s no direction for [Nolan Ryan and Jon Daniels] to cut payroll."

 

I do see where Ryan notes: "We’re in the mind-set that we’re going to be in the race this year and not in the mind-set of dumping salaries, because we feel like if we’re successful on the field, what we haven’t been able to accomplish this off-season in [season ticket] renewals we can make up with walk-up attendance if we’re in a pennant race."

 

As for the one significant 2010 salary that could transform from a club option to a guaranteed contract – Kevin Millwood’s $12 million if he reaches a workload threshold this year – Reeves acknowledges that "Hicks said he hopes Millwood hits his 180 innings and will be back next season, ‘but it’s up to him.’"

 

Doesn’t sound like an owner trying to find ways to cut payroll.

 

In fact, didn’t Hicks authorize a two-year deal for Ben Sheets last month, for a reported $20 million, before the righthander failed his physical? There have been similar go-aheads to bust payroll to sign players like Carlos Delgado, Barry Zito, Daisuke Matsuzaka, and Torii Hunter in recent years.

 

Said Hicks to Reeves: "If we have a chance to get a great Ben Sheets type player at the right price, we’d do it. All of this is different than saying, ‘I want you to cut the payroll.’"

 

But that point gets buried halfway into the column.

 

Ryan adds: "Tom wants to see us try to hit our budget this year. We feel like under the current economic environment, we need to be in the pennant race and need to be competitive this year."

 

What’s wrong with that comment? Particularly considered in light of the effort to sign Sheets in February?

 

Hicks tells Reeves: "I like the energy of the young guys. I like [Justin] Smoak. I like Max Ramirez. Next year, I think you’ll see [Neftali] Feliz and [Derek] Holland in the rotation. It would be nice to see [Brandon] McCarthy step up this year."

 

If that means some combination of Smoak and Ramirez could change the Rangers’ situation at designated hitter, where Hank Blalock will go into the off-season as one of two things – (1) a player who once again wasn’t able to give the team a full season or (2) a dependable veteran bat who finally put together a solid year from start to finish and will hit free agency – where’s the problem with that comment?

 

As for Feliz and Holland impacting the rotation in 2010, is that a signal that the Rangers simply want to get out from under Millwood’s and Vicente Padilla’s eight figures a year and will stick any minimum-salary pitchers they can find in there to replace them? C’mon.

 

I think we’d all agree that McCarthy stepping up this year is something worth hoping for.

 

Someone challenged me yesterday on the subject of the Rangers’ payroll approach.

 

This isn’t the Carl Pohlad-era Twins.

 

I’m in favor of spiking expenditures in scouting and player development, going above slot for Smoak, Holland, Taylor Teagarden, Julio Borbon, Neil Ramirez, Marcus Lemon, Robbie Ross, Clark Murphy, Johnny Whittleman, Kyle Ocampo, Matt Thompson, and others, and kicking tail in Latin America, rather than spending cash on Jay Powell.

 

I appreciate that nobody offered Michael Ynoa or Junichi Tazawa more than the Texas Rangers did.

 

I don’t know what the payroll strategy has been, or will be. But there’s evidence that the Rangers are spending more (and spending wisely) internationally, and that whatever budget gets set for the big league roster, it’s always subject to exception for the right player.

 

But yeah, dang — I wish we’d signed Gary Matthews Jr. a couple winters ago for that five years and $50 million the Angels gave him, rather than take the two draft picks. Maybe the Angels would consider taking Michael Main and Neil Ramirez for him.

 

There were baseball writers in this market who criticized the Rangers for letting Matthews "get away" at that price. One of them, Reeves, wrote this a few days into the 2007 season, after Los Angeles had swept Texas in the season’s first three games:

 

"Tom Hicks flew in here from Liverpool, England, on Monday, presumably with the $10 million he saved by not re-signing Gary Matthews Jr. this past off-season jingling around in his pocket with a few extra British pounds in his loose change.

 

"What the Angels got for their $10 million was Matthews’ usual spectacular defense in center field and a three-game sweep of the Rangers to open the season.

 

"I’ll let you figure out who got the best end of the deal."

 

Who do you think got the best end of the deal?

 

Who do you think the Angels think got the best end of the deal?

 

I like Jim Reeves. There’s nobody in this sportswriting market who does a better job with the human interest story. But it bothers me when a column like yesterday’s, something I’d expect instead from his one-trick colleague, ends up manufacturing a misleading message that the casual sports fan might blindly adopt.

 

There are players on this team with sizable contracts who will come off the books in seven months. If the team will be better – not cheaper, but better – by going with younger players already in the organization and ready to contribute, is there anyone who would reasonably argue that that’s a bad plan? Especially for a team that believes it will contend in 2010, and for years after that?

 

Are we to believe that Texas aren’t busy approaching Josh Hamilton with a huge offer to be a Texas Ranger for life? It would increase payroll, you know.

 

And does anyone really think that if there’s a Ben Sheets out there to sign in 2009 – either a starting pitcher on the free agent market (like John Lackey if he doesn’t extend with the Angels, or Sheets himself), or a Josh-Beckett-from-the-Marlins trade to get in on, that Texas will stay away because it would bust the budget?

 

We know – not on faith but on the evidence – that that hasn’t been the case, and I’d bet it won’t be going forward.

by leftybp on Mar 25, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

you totally just killed the fun of this post!!!

Move that comment over to a post or something.

“Wang went limp when he saw who was coming!”

by thad728 on Mar 25, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

...don't have time to read this dissertation.

"We go to Jim Knox..."
"You brought the Pomeranian bowling?"

by Updog on Mar 25, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's just Newberg's latest report copied into here...

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 25, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

WTF are you?

The “stupid” doppleganger of Jamey?

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Mar 25, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Love how he tries to make it look

like his own.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 25, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interrogative

What do you think the odds are that most of us here subscribe to jamey’s newsletter?

I’ll answer for you: I’d say they are almost as high as the odds of you sniffing a lot of industrial grade glue.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Mar 25, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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