GMJ is still grouchy
by Adam J. Morris on Mar 27, 2009 10:00 AM CDT
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PrintGMJ is still unhappy about being a backup outfielder in Anaheim:
"I'm not going to sit here and not play this season," Matthews said in a calm, measured voice. "I'm just not going to do it. Obviously, something must be done."
Obviously.
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At least you can afford
a nice thick, bench cushion.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
Ka Ching
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by inactive lsb user on Mar 27, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Look
The man isn’t paying for the best PED’s just to sit around and not play
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 27, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions
STFU and cash those checks.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Would it be wrong for me to be intensely amused by all this?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
if it's wrong....
then I don’t wanna be right…
well get him a bottle and tell him to STFU
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
you're not going to sit there and not play?
well stand then, you’ll still not be playing.
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
Maybe he will run out to the outfield...
…in the first inning of every game and stand next to the appointed player for that position until he is forcibly removed from the field.
We couldn't have known it at the time but we definitely killed the wrong Belushi brother.
by Chad Crudup on Mar 27, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
similar to
Roger Dorn in Major League 2 where he won’t get off first base for the pinch runner.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 27, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
"Obviously, something must be done."
That is correct. Unfortunately, that something was called “not sucking the last two years” and it appears that he has failed at it.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
i hope the angels offer him the same deal the cardinals offered edge james
basically say “ok, were perfectly fine with letting you go play somewhere else, just agree to void your contract and your free to go”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
heh like that's going to happen..
GMJ says “On second thought maybe the bench isn’t so bad after all.”
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
I love it when people are insubordinate
You’re paying me millions more than I’m worth, MILLIONS! You know what though? I’m calling the fucking shots around here.
Love it.
Hey!
I thought you were busy…!
Excuse me stewardess, I speak Jive.
by Escher on Mar 27, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I can smell the Jim Reeves apology column comin' 'round the bend...
…or am I way too optimistic to think he’s going to admit how stupid it was to criticize the Rangers for not matching 5/50?
We couldn't have known it at the time but we definitely killed the wrong Belushi brother.
From Juan Pierre...
…“It’s tough because I’m used to playing every single day,” Pierre says. “Last year was torture for me. If this organization thinks I’ll be happy making money and sitting on the bench, they signed the wrong guy.”
Yeah Juan, I think the Dodgers would agree that they signed the wrong guy.
We couldn't have known it at the time but we definitely killed the wrong Belushi brother.
Karma and satisfaction
Think about how much outfielders have cost lately, then calculate the combined annual cost of Josh Hamilton, Nelson Cruz, David Murphy, Brandon Boggs, and Frankie the Cat. We are either the Walmart of baseball or have a very good price performance situation.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Mar 27, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
why does everyone here dislike GMJ so much
he should probably go down as one of the greatest Rangers ever. We got him on the cheap for three serviceable years, he made a catch that was probably the greatest Ranger highlight reel of this pathetic decade until Hamilton’s AS HR derby display last summer, and then we parlayed his FA departure into Michael Main and Neil Ramirez, two of the livest arms in our system.
Plus, he now is taking up salary space on a division rival. And anyone who questions his motives for taking the contract in the first place is hypocritical and delusional.
ha that would make a good sig
[GMJ] should probably go down as one of the greatest Rangers ever. – Clark
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 27, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
perhaps a little hyperbolic
but he shouldn’t be hated like he is. my reasoning is pretty solid, though, right?
what about those quotes
makes you want to have a beer with the guy?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
i don't need to have a beer with him
to understand where he is coming from. Perhaps it would be refreshing to see a professional athlete say -
“You know, I believe that I am talented enough to be a starting OF somewhere in this league, but at the same time I understand that I signed a FA contract that, while making me rich beyond my wildest imagination, has become too prohibitive in today’s crippling economic conditions to allow my organization to trade me so that I may start. So while I have to sit on the bench in Anaheim and watch guys like Rajai Davis and Brett f@#$ing Gardner start in this league, I am resigned to accept my fate. It’s too bad, because I really do have a passion for the game.”
i see. you feel sorry for the guy making 50M
if only someone would pay me 50M to sit on my ass and practice baseball when i wasn’t doing that.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
yeah, I do
because it must suck when your entire self identity is tied to one thing, and now you aren’t allowed to do that one thing on a day in/day out basis because your team has a policy of bringing in one 30+ year old OF every offseason. I feel sorry for a lot of people in this world who make a lot more money than I do. Perhaps I am overly empathetic.
maybe he should read a book
learn french. start a website. start his own business. not suck at life so much.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
He should talk with someone like Mike Lamb then
There are some players out there that really understand how the game works. They understand that they’re not going to the HOF and that they probably won’t always find a place to play every day. This GMJ thing keeps surprising me because he was one of those guys up until a few years ago. He pretty much has only been a starter for a few years of his decade long career and has been bouncing around from team to team throughout that time. I’m not going to feel sorry for a guy that is that delusional.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
solution to that problem
…dont suck.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 27, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he sucks
I just think he is vastly overpaid, especially now. He would be starting for at least a third of the teams in baseball.
not for very long
or at least he shouldn’t. As a starter in 07, he had a 93 OPS+. Last year, he had a 77 OPS+. Add in that he now looks to be a defensive liability (check out his UZR with the Angels), and I can’t imagine why a team would want that in their starting lineup.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
which is my point
were talking about a guy with three CAREER seasons of over a 100 ops+ (and one of them was a 103 ops+)
who isnt that good on defense, and was complaining about not playing on a team last year that started vlad guerro and garret anderson (both guys seem to always be banged up)
your getting paid 50 million. sit down and shut up or get better. he had 426 AB last year, about 470 total PAs…what was he bitching and moaning about? oh yea, and he got paid 9.4 MILLION DOLLARS last year
is he even that much better than juan rivera?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 27, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That athlete would suddenly become my hero...
I agree – How refreshing that would be?
what kinda beer?
if it’s a 90 minute Dogfish Head IPA, I’m in, no matter WHO it is…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
you can have dogfish head with whoever you want
it’s not like i said he’s paying
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
if I saw GMJ in a bar
I’d buy him a beer.
Do I like the guy? No. He’s an f-ing Angel. But I’d buy him a beer.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
dude, what the hell?
i’m not buying an Angel a beer. I’m not buying an Angel who makes $50M a beer. What the hell kind of star fucker are you?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
the kind that likes beer
and bullshitting
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
nothing wrong with a lit'l B n B
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
i like the 120 min better
but you cant drink many of them at 20%abv
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
my goodness
I had the 90 and it put me in a very good mood to start last Friday night…I tried for the 120 at Flying Saucer the other night, but they were out. Gordon’s worked just fine as a replacement
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
120min
whats really good is i bought a 120min bottle and aged it for 2 yrs in a cool dark spot, and man it god so smooth it was ridiculous.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
its how long they leave the hops in the beer
while its being made
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
OK, but what are the implications of doing that?
Does the longer you leave the hops in = more mule-kicking alcohol strength?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
hops give it flavor
the higher “minute” brews they make just tend to be higher abv because of the other things they do.
such as aging longer, etc.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
So what's the alcohol % of their strongest beer?
I don’t think I’ve had beer stronger than say 8%…
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
18-20%
the 120 i bought years ago was 20, but their site shows 18% now.
sam adams makes one thats 27%abv but its very pricey and not sold everywhere.
it’s not uncommon to find craft beers around 10-12%abv
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I thought the yeast died
from the alcohol at 6 percent or so when I used to homebrew 20 years ago. Have they engineered new yeasts?
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
Hahahahahah
Give me Sheets or give me Offseason Blues Part III.
by inactive lsb user on Mar 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
dont know
i used to be more involved in beer stuff than i am now, i had always been told higher abv brews aged very well and from my experience they do.
the lower abv ones just get a little skunky.
i think it also depends on the types of yeast used.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
wow.
I need to try that out. I homebrew, and would love to do that, but I’m afraid that even with the natural hops, there isn’t enough preservative in there to keep it from going bad after that long…
I am bottling, hopefully, my best brew to date tonight. VERY excited. first time I’ve dry hopped
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It must be Friday...
because that last sentence sounded very NSFW.
LOL Bob, I had the same thought.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
high abv + yeast in the bottle = preservation
it will keep fine, many beers that have active yeast in the bottle will age.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
do you brew?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The Saucer
Last time I was in town I saw my middle school and high school spanish teachers there sloshed as bejesus. They were higher than a couple of fruitbats.
Hola Chico! they both slur-shouted.
Good times…
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
good stuff
I used to hate that bar, but that was before I grew to love beer. and I always run into people I haven’t seen in years there…which can be good and bad
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope everyone here knows about Rahr Brewing Co.
The frequent at the Saucer every now and again.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Yep they have some good stuff
I hear they are sorta struggling though
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 27, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hadn't heard that...
They’ve been winning awards left and right. They have two “co-presidents” which they’ve said they can’t afford, but I though alcohol was supposed to well in a recession.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Yeah I can't remember where I read that....might have just been word of mouth
but I did see this recently
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 27, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Good read.
Write those letters!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
yeah I've had Ugly Pug
but nothing else yet…what should I try first?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the red is a good one to start with.
Winter Warmer is the best there is during winter – (actually “End of Winter Warmer” is the best)
Their IPA – “Stormcloud” is not my favorite, but I’m not a big fan of IPAs.
As well, their new brew, “Iron Thistle” just recently won an award, but I haven’t had any of it yet.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
forgot to mention
It’s $5 for a brewery tour and samples from 1-3 p.m. on Saturdays – actually the money goes to a charity and the samples are free.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Suck it rest of the world!
It’s $5 for a brewery tour and samples from 1-3 p.m. on Saturdays – actually the money goes to a charity and the samples are free.
This is a prime example of American greatness.
Who needs cheap rail transit and universal healthcare? We got free beer samples! And the entrance fee goes to charity! Up yours France!
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol - greatness
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I will say this
The wife is from New Zealand, and according to her, the bust-a-gut night is frequently a weekly occurrence at popular watering holes, and as you’ll no doubt be unsurprised to hear, it be a popular night at the popular watering holes.
Bust-a-gut goes like so:
They ring a bell behind the bar, usually in the early evening, and at that glorious moment, draft pints are the equivalent of roughly a quarter.
One salient caveat-there is no going to the bog. Period. Nein. A vigilant watch is posted, typically a fierce looking Maori chap who could haka-slap an NFL lineman around. Any visit to the bog by any patron results in quarter-pint-privileges being revoked for ALL pub inhabitants poste haste.
As you might imagine, there is significant peer pressure involved. Especially considering Kiwiland is essentially 2 medium-big cities and a bunch of villages. if you fuck up bust-a-gut, you are most likely fucking it up for your next door neighbor and mum and cousin and ex-ho-on-the-side.
Funny thing is, Kiwis have gotten so staunchly solidaritized in their bog avoidance, that the pubs have taken to bust-a-gut plants, or, as I see them, undercover black ops bust-a-gut saboteurs. Frequently now, the bust-a-gut party poopisser is accused of being a paid off underminer.
Anyway, that’s my long way of saying New Zealander smay still be one up on us…
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
What be "the bog"?
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
The urinal
Kiwi and (I think) any other commonwealth country slang…
It can mean the pooper also. But of course, beer doesn’t normally equal poo.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, so you can drink cheaply
but not piss…
The Kiwians may be ahead of us on some things, but perhaps not bladder cancer prevention.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
wow.
great anecdote. I need to visit this…land of the Kiwis. soon.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 28, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Yay the Flying Saucer!
I’ve got a whopping 10 beers to go before I get my first plate on the wall. I’m saving Dogfish Head 120 for my 200th beer. I’m still a 120 virgin.
no, not really
When your biggest contributions to the team is a highlight catch, clogging up a rival’s payroll, and a couple of prospects — that is not even close to the greatest Ranger ever.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 27, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
that makes it so much better
where exactly do you rank him (ballpark)?
because you’re probably wrong.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
okay
this has clearly gone on long enough. GMJ is not even in the top ten percent of all time Rangers, especially when you are looking solely at on field production. But if you take into account other less tangible factors (acquisition cost, salary/value, departure benefit) then I think he actually has quite a bit more, but he is still no where near the top of the list. I might reconsider if Ramirez and Main one day make up 2/5 of a world champion starting rotation. That, along with “the catch”, might sneak him into the top 50.
I wouldn't say
top 50 means “one of the greatest rangers of all time.” Just look at AJM’s list — not exactly inspriring….
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Mar 27, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't hate him
I just find his powers of self-perception to be hilariously lacking.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Mar 27, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
the dude thinks he gary mathews sr
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
greatest rangers ever?
nah. I got him as 4th best ever.
besides the catch, none of those things were a result of his play and sparkling personality. and, on his way out, he took a shot at the team. you should probably pick another pole.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
I don't hate GMJ at all,
but I do hate the Angels though, and i’m enjoying this.
by jcAustin on Mar 27, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Same here
I liked the guy when he was here, and I happy to see him put together a nice season and score a huge payday from an owner not named Tom Hicks. I don’t wish ill will upon GMJ (though I didn’t care for that parting shot mentioned above), but I find it hilarious that his ridiculous albatross of a contract is clogging up the payroll and roster of the team I hate more than any team in baseball.
The only thing that could make this better is if, to protest his lack of playing time, he started parking his car in Scioscia’s reserved spot and Scioscia got towed for parking in a handicapped spot ala Bill Lumbergh. I hate Mike Scioscia.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
Scioscia is the biggest ball and stike whiner of all time,
even more than the entire Yankee team. If i were an ump, i’d squeeze the hell out of his pitchers.
There are only 3 possible emotions for any Rangers player
He’s God.
Meh.
He sucks abyssmally and should not be allowed to breed.
There are no in betweens. +1billion, zero, or – eleventy thousand billion million. Changes in status can only be made once an inning.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Mar 27, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Excellent summary of our emotions
On more than one occasion I have felt all three of those emotions about a single player. In the same game. Sometimes in the same inning.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
Huh?
And anyone who questions his motives for taking the contract in the first place is hypocritical and delusional
Are you implying that GMJ signed with the Angels at 5/50 because he is secretly trying to help the Rangers by playing poorly while eating up salary? If that’s true, he really IS one of the greatest Rangers ever,
by NorCalRangersFan on Mar 27, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
LET HIM PLAY! LET HIM PLAY!
(cue Jose Cruz)
LET HIM PLAY! LET HIM PLAY!
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
"Obviously, something must be done."
You could start with hitting the baseball.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
Or being traded...
I mean really, can’t you think of 29 other teams dying to have him and his contract?
The real reason players love Rudy
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I doubt it
He was a marginal CF for most of his time here, punctuated by an occasional highlight catch. I suspect there’s evidence to show Hamilton is a fairly equivalent CF to him, if not better, and we think Hamilton is only acceptable.
actually I don't read many on here
that find Hamilton to be acceptable. most are calling for the move to RF now.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
which is ridiculous
Hamilton is a damn fine CF.
by JimCrankshaft on Mar 27, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
he has issues
defensively.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
he does have issues...
But I suspect (based on my total lack of actually baseball insider knowledge) that playing CF might be the last part of his game to return after his long layoff. Defensive jumps in the OF, especially CF, has GOT to be all about instinct, doesn’t it??
+1
Hamilton doesn’t have a problem with the athletic tools to make him a good CF and I don’t think he was looking bad at CF when he was originally drafted and in the Rays system. I think this season will be pretty telling about if he can play a good CF.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
either way, if Borbon continues to excel in OBP
it will be a moot point. he WILL move to RF.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely a very good possibility of happening
Just throwing it out there though, what if Hamilton proves he can play good CF defense (lets say he’s +3/4 runs out there). With Cruz and a Murphy/Boggs platoon in LF working out for the team, do you still put Borbon in CF?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
yes
if just for the fact of extending his career playing a less physically demanding position
well look at his stats from RF last year
they were SO much better than when he played CF
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 27, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
In that case
I think it would depend on how Cruz is playing. if Cruz is doing good you simply keep Borbon down and continue with what you’ve got. if Cruz is struggling and has been released or benched then bring Borbon up and move Hamilton to RF
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I bring Borbon up if he's proved he can be a leadoff hitter
with plus defense in CF. No matter what. We need some game changers on the base paths to set up the power we have. But at that point, I would imagine one of Murphy or Cruz would have to be traded…and this all assumes, of course, that Byrd is traded or signs as a free agent elsewhere this offseason
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
If he proves that he can do that, it'll be a scary outfield.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Do you bring up
Borbon this year and put him at the top of the order? I don’t think you do that midseason unless your offense craps out.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
no, apparently Kinsler's going to be the guy again
unless he gets injured. knock on wood.
but towards the middle/end of the year, hopefully Borbon is ready, called up and playing the 9th role in the lineup and ready to challenge for the top of the lineup in 2010, with everybody moving down a spot in the lineup except Young. of course, it’d be tough to go righty/lefty in that circumstance, but you can’t have EVERYTHING
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
personally, I don’t see the deficiencies . I see a dude who has plenty of range, good instincts and a howitzer for an arm. Certainly better than anything we had prior to GMJ (other than Tom Goodwin).
by JimCrankshaft on Mar 27, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Its a few bad jumps
Hes not exactly the most fluid out there and occasionally seems to misread a ball off the bat.
On the upside his arm keeps people from trying to take an extra base on him a lot.
But mostly the question is if moving him from CF to RF would make him more likely to hold up over the course of a full year. Plus hes a much better defender in RF as opposed to CF, at least stats say so.
Umm, good arm, maybe?
But see my post below.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
which is why people dont' like to trust the arm
and the camera rarely lets you see what kind of jump a guy gets on the ball. most defensive stats say he should be getting to a lot more balls than he does.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
I hear ya...
I’m still learning the ins and outs of zone ratings, range factors and what not. Eventually I’ll get around to figuring them out but as of right now all I have to make a judgement on a players defensive prowess are my own two eyes.
by JimCrankshaft on Mar 27, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
-1 credibility
lol
at least I’m honest though…
by JimCrankshaft on Mar 27, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Say what, foo'?
In center field, it’s another story. Josh Hamilton ranked 30th among MLB center fielders under John Dewan’s plus-minus system with a -13. He was (by far) the worst MLB-regular center fielder at allowing runners to take an extra base. Runners succeeded in taking an extra bag when they had the opportunity to do so .669 of the time the ball was hit to Hamilton. That figure is about .100 higher than MLB average (most regular MLB center fielders were in the .550 – .580 range while the best were in the .470 – .520 range). Only one other MLB-regular center fielder was worse than .600.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Exactly
and a quick look at the stats show that Hamilton and GMJ in CF were not very different players. Its just Hamilton doesn’t have that one highlight reel catch to hang his entire hat on.
At least Hamilton is a legit all world level hitter.
right now
I’d bet Byrd is our best defensive CF who is likely to break camp with the team. I’d bet its not likely that close either.
if he duplicates last year
then yes, he is the best.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
Though right now
I’m not sure our best offense doesn’t have Cruz in Right, Hamilton in center, and a platoon in left.
and i agree with that as well
as does the rangers brass most likely.
although i’m not sure
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
I don't know.
I think Byrd in CF, Hamilton in RF and Cruz in LF would be a decent approach both offensively and defensively
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Byrd or Boggs
if Boggs is here?
I guess I saw some ratings where Boggs was an above average LF, passable in CF…
but it seems as though he’s pretty good in CF?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
x
"They say brevity is the key to wit, so shut the f*ck up." Dad
by RangerFloppy on Mar 27, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
"I'm not going to sit here and not play this season"
Why? you did it from ’99 – ’04…you should be really good at it.
I love it.
the more drama and distractions Scioscia has to put up with, the better.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Mar 27, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
I hope MLB comes down hard again on his windbreaker wearing
He and Terry Francona were told to amend their uniform habits last year for looking like slobs.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I hope they don't
After watching Tommy LaSorda wear a skin-tight baseball shirt for all those years, I’ll take the windbreaker on a manager A.N.Y.D.A.Y.
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