Tom Schieffer for Governor?
by WestTxAg06 on Mar 4, 2009 10:54 AM CST
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Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere on LSB (forgive me if I just overlooked it). It would certainly be interesting to see one of the more important names in Ranger history campaigning for the job.
My initial opinion is that Schieffer would make a much more viable candidate and a better governor than some of the other Democrat names being mentioned as possible candidates (the DMN called Kinky and State Sen. Leticia Van de Putte potential contenders). Plus, it certainly couldn't hurt to have an ex-Rangers pres running the state again. Take that, Astros fans!
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It seems to me
That the race is KBH’s to lose at this point.
When I was collecting polling data for the last election, it seemed nobody really liked Perry all that much, they just thought the other guys/grannies were clods.
It's not KBH's race to lose
The Christian-right in Texas (a big faction of the Republican Party) are big supporters of Perry not KBH. Rick Perry’s media guru David Week’s know’s what he’s doing. I will say the race is 50-50 at this time even if the polls say otherwise.
TCU are going to bust through the BCS this season.......
Ugh
How that guy is still called a Democrat is beyond me.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Sorry...didn't mean to reply to you
I was talking about Tony Sanchez Tom Schieffer.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
yeah
per wikipedia that I cite below, he was ambassador to Japan and Australia. Also was a Democrat Representative through most of the ’70s.
Guess cronyism > partisanism when it came to GWB.
In fairness
Cronyism has long been the modus operandi for ambassadorial appointments to places like Australia and Sweden (where ex-Texas Senator Teel Bivins served).
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
I have no problem with it
Its pretty well known that raising lots of $ for your buddy will get you a good Ambassadorship. Since Ambassadors really represent the President in those countries, they may as well be friends and close associates.
+1 here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Mar 4, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't necessarily say it's her race to lose
You’re right that Perry largely won 2006 due to the lackluster other choices. However, if there’s one thing Perry is good at, it’s taking a little bit of negative information and destroying an opponent with it. All it took was a little bit of circumstantial evidence for him to paint Tony Sanchez as a money launderer for the Mexican drug cartels.
Given KBH’s tendency to trend moderate with some of her Senate votes, Perry will hang the dreaded “L” word on her, paint her as a friend of Obama’s, and absolutely hammer her over and over again from the right. Regardless of where he actually stands on issue, he plays a good solid conservative on tv.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
Well
We’ll see when that happens. As of now, I think the fact that Texas is slowly becoming more purple makes KBH the front runner.
by brettgardner on Mar 4, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
KBH is definitely far and away the front runner
but Schieffer would probably be the toughest race KBH has ever faced in her career (possibly with the exception of the Perry primary).
Schieffer is trailing but still has room to grow in name recognition and his seeming bipartisanship (ties to republican agencies) might play well, or be spinned well. Policy wise, he seems pretty milquetoast.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
Agreed
(possibly with the exception of the Perry primary)
I think the hope from the Dems is that she comes out of the primary licking her wounds and a “moderate” like Schieffer can take advantage.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Yeah.
I don’t want my governor to be particularly “bipartisan” (whatever that means). The closer the representative to the people, the more they should be allowed to govern their way, at least in my opinion.
by brettgardner on Mar 4, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't KBH's first Senate race pretty tight?
I can’t remember the details right now, but she was facing one of the good ole boy Texas Dems from back then
Well, I was wrong
1993 Bob Krueger 576,538 33% Kay Bailey Hutchison 1,188,716 67%
She’s never had less than 60% of the vote in four elections. I think she’s got whatever post in Texas wrapped up.
well that's not the point I made
I was saying she hasn’t had a serious challenge, regardless of her opponent. Her biggest challenge has been her campaign finance scandal. Who knows how she’ll stand up to money
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
She's never really faced a good candidate, though
When Bob Krueger is the biggest name you’ve defeated, I wouldn’t rush to call you “battle tested”. Plus, Senate elections tend to be connected with DC left/right politics and the popularity of the respective parties more than Texas gubernatorial elections.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
Wow
from Wikipedia:
John Thomas “Tom” Schieffer (born October 4, 1947) is the most recent United States Ambassador to Japan, and served as U.S. Ambassador to Australia from 2001 to 2005. Schieffer is a friend and former business partner of President George W. Bush. He is the younger brother of Bob Schieffer, a CBS News reporter and host of Face the Nation. As of March 2, 2009, he is forming an exploratory committee towards a possible run for the office of governor for the state of Texas as a Democrat.
Things I did not know about our former owner:
1> That he was an ambassador to Japan and Australia. Those are posh gigs. That’s serious friend of the President territory.
2> That he’s the brother of Bob Schieffer. Never put that together (though I knew Bob Schieffer is a Frog fan). Does that mean Face the Nation is a Rangers-friendly politics show, a la Meet the Press and the Buffalo Bills?
3> Tom Schieffer is a Democrat. That’s consistent with #2, but kind of contrary to #1 (not that those jobs have any political power). I suppose he’s from the Jim Wright lineage of FW Dems?
I remember hearing about the ambassador gigs when he got appointed, but I just found out he was Bob Schieffer’s brother the other day.
Schieffer worked for John Connally and was in the Texas Legislature in the 70’s. He’s an old-style conservative Texas Democrat, not a modern-day DC Democrat.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
yeah,
texas has changed some in the most recent trand but not that much but, I always wondered if you are a rep trying to get your bill passed into law, lets say your a democrat, is it easier to go up to Maine or wherever and get a republican who is a little liberal to get behind you than a fellow democrat who is happens to be from texas?
i may be left of center, but i demand small government as much as possible, i just have different budgetary priorities (less military, no drug war, and more domestic spending) and im of the opinion that the best way to reduce gun deaths gang or any other in america is to take every kid hunting and make them shoot and kill a deer and look into that animals eyes, then let the 6 year old gut the son of a bitch while you show him how and eat the backstrap for sunday dinner. You do that to a kid and they learn the respect and permanence of guns. Im not pro Union, but im a democrat, and in texas one of the far left. For some reason, true yankee boston democrats have a hard time wrapping their minds around that concept of a democrat.
we makem different around here.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
he was bush's business partner
and didn’t really get those repub administration jobs because he’s conservative
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I'm still trying
to figure out why KBH wants to be governor, she has it good right now.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
rumors said she wanted it more than a possible VP gig
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
She's smart
she knew McCain wasn’t winning anything. No one wants to be a losing VP candidate, unless you’re a political unknown wanting a boost (Palin). Would have been ironic since that’s how her predecessor’s career kind of ended (old Lloyd Bentsen).
no
he won his senate race but resigned for a sec. of treasury gig
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
I know
it didn’t end immediately thereafter. But the Treasury gig was relative short lasting and always struck me as kind of a feather in his cap given by Clinton for a career of solid service.
His VP candidate nod is his ultimate legacy – his epic smacking of Quayle in particular. And though he didn’t deliver Texas, I find it funny that he did receive one electoral vote for President.
well it was short lived
but not because the VP ended his political career. I think he was looking for a higher administration gig but didn’t get it.
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
don't think so
governor will be her last gig
"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."
What I've heard
She has relatively small children and would much rather raise them in Texas than in DC. Evidently she hates living in the DC rat race. Though she’s been good for Texas in the Senate, I can’t say that I really blame her for wanting to get her family out of that.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
again my understandings
and from info a friend got at the state repub. convention is that she wants to move home and spend more time with her family
also she was smart to turn down the VP gig imho
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
word is she has an adopted child who is young
and she wants that child to grow up a texan. i respect that, and even as a dem. she isnt the crazy john cornyn type.
my biggest question is that if i was the republican party chair or chief, i dont want to have to battle and risk losing a bread and butter senate seat like the one in texas. she can run for that senate seat and win for another decade or more and the gop needs all the easy seats they can hold onto while they rebuild their franchise. If im a serious party head who only cares about the strength of the party, i tell KBH that if she runs for governor i tell her that the RNC is gonna pour tens of millions into the Perry Campaign and not give her a dime. I make sure she loses the governors race for the strength of the party. The GOP cant afford to risk losing senate seats by not utilizing its incumbents who are shoe-ins and she as politically savvy as she is, she should know it. She party chiefs have to do whatever they can to insure that seat is safe. They cant be happy and it puts them in a really bad spot.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
That's a great point, and one that bothers me immensely
Her winning would be the worst outcome for the Republican Party, and wouldn’t be great for the state either, losing a highly respected voice in DC with lots of seniority.
I understand her personal reasons for wanting to run, and I respect them a lot, but man, now is just not a good time for her to vacate that seat.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
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