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Dallas Hotels for Opening Day

I'm going to delete this after I've gotten what I need since I've already made this type of fanpost a month or so back.

Now I'm traveling by myself since the Girl is gone and I'm taking a HS buddy and he lives in DFW. Here's what I envision: show up Sat, Sun maybe sit by an outdoor pool then walk around to a restaurant and some bars, Mon game and then hit another good restaurant, Tues home to Wyoming.

I'm thinking I'd like to stay downtown since I presume you can wander around from place to place to find a cool bar to sitdown in. I've got it down to the Hyatt, Indigo, Lawrence, Adolphus, Marriott and Magnolia (most expensive option). The alternative is fly in Sun, leave Tues and stay at the Ritz Carleton since it's actually a reasonable rate for two nights and I'm thinking of treating myself (for a decent price).

Do people have any suggestions regarding my list of hotels or other hotels that will fit my plans?

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The Ritz is cool if you don’t mind the price. The Joule downtown is where Pacman got into the drunken fight which led to his suspension this last fall; their pool is way way bad ass – it hangs out partway over Main Street with a glass bottom and the deck looks cool.

Wandering bar to bar is a bit more tricky. There are a couple of areas with many bars in a small space, but not really downtown. McKinney (near Boll Street) and West Village area both have many bars close together, but not sure if there are any hotels there.

by FuturePants on Mar 9, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Several bar options in Uptown

Hotel Za Za and the Crescent are within walking distance. You would also be right next to Rangers Dallas office if you needed to stop and grab a cap or shirt or something.

by Anonymous New Guy on Mar 9, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's how the travel cites categorize the various areas in Dallas

Expedia: Addison – Galleria; Downtown; Market Center; Oak Lawn – Uptown; Park Central.

Travelocity: Downtown; Galleria; Garland; park Central; S. Dallas.

Not sure how to find West Village. I’m just looking for somewhere that’s busy at night and I can walk around.

by WyoRanger on Mar 9, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you would enjoy Uptown more than downtown.

Downtown Dallas isn’t as active as other major cities. Uptown is much cleaner and there are quite a few restaurants and bars you can walk to. It is kinda like douche bag central, so just be prepared for that. Honestly, it’s not really my type of place, but other people seem to like it. I’m sure it would be a different story if I were single…the scenery is usually pretty nice.

by Anonymous New Guy on Mar 9, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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Dallas isn’t any more “douche bag central” than any other city, and less so than many others. See: the entire west coast and northeast for the gold standard of douchiness.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Those are the two places I’m looking to move to.

by LiamP on Mar 10, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looked at Za Za and it looks great

Also, from what I’ve seen in this post, there’s plenty nearby so this seems to be the location.

Anyone know anything about the Warwick Melrose hotel, W Dallas or the Hyatt Summerfield? Just wondering about their location/things to do.

Also looked at the Rosewood Mansion, Stoneleigh and Rosewood Crescent but they all look really stuffy.

by WyoRanger on Mar 10, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

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Melrose is cool, I’m not aware of many bars withing walking distance, but it’s a good area close to a lot of good eats.

W Dallas is in Victory park where the AA Center (Stars & Mavericks) play. Higher priced eating and bars, but there are a few there despite the lack of tenants in Victory Park.

Stonleigh is right across from the Stonleigh P, a bar which I would like but for their bartenders are assholes to an extreme degree.

Crescent is close enough to the ZaZa where I’d probably rather stay at the ZaZa.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Uncle is a part owner

of the Stoneleigh P.

I believe it was one of the first bars in Dallas to have liquor by the drink back in the 70s.

I also think Ann Richards and George Bush snorted coke there, once upon a time.

Get off my lawn.

by DJCahill on Mar 10, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Tell your uncle to fire the bartender with the bleach blond hair. The guy is an ass.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Warwick Melrose is the decision

Place looks cool, is historic, and my trip is $500.00 cheaper (compared to Za Za) which buys a lot of taxi rides (plus there’s car service within 3 miles).

by WyoRanger on Mar 10, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like the Melrose

Their lobby bar, the Library, isn’t bad, either.

Within 3 miles, I’m sure, are many of my favorite bars (I’ve linked to): Gingerman, Idle Rich and Blackfriar. I also love love love The Loon and The Old Monk. I recommend going to The Loon late – like midnight, because two of those drinks will knock you on your ass pretty easy.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Loon

And you might see Dirk there.

by Anonymous New Guy on Mar 10, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’ve seen Dirk, Nash and Finley up there back in the day…haven’t seen Dirk up there in awhile. I’d usually run into him like on a Monday or something. Owen Wilson also loves The Loon; seen him up there a few times.

…..I go there a lot.

by FuturePants on Mar 11, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys

If anyone sees someone sitting by themself in an old, sweatstained Rangers hat, give me a shout. I’ll buy you a drink. I’ll likely be wearing a University of Wyoming sweatshirt during the game (depending on the weather) and my seats are near the 3B dugout.

by WyoRanger on Mar 10, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only one I know about is the Stoneleigh

That’s where we put up our out-of-towners at my office. It’s an old building…I think at one point it was the tallest building in Dallas. I’ve heard mixed reviews from the folks that stay there.

There’s a bar right across the street, but not much else. You probably could walk to the bars in Uptown from there, but it would be a pretty good hike.

The W hotel might be cool. I’ve never been, but it’s in Victory Park. Victory Park is pretty cool.

by Anonymous New Guy on Mar 10, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stay in Fort Worth

Stay in downtown Fort Worth, there is much more to do there than in downtown Dallas. The Renaissance hotel is nice.

by ranger jim on Mar 9, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

There may be more to do in Downtown Ft. Worth than Downtown Dallas...

…but Ft. Worth is inferior in every capacity.

Stay in Dallas – just maybe don’t go out in Downtown Dallas. Go to Uptown or something for some drinks. Uptown and McKinney & Boll street are both within 2 miles from downtown.

by FuturePants on Mar 9, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love it when you bring out the music/Dallas snob

it’s amusing.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 9, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Dallas does rule. Much more so than Ft. Worth, I promise.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't believe you until you promised me

now I’m convinced.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a great feeling to be able to look down on residents of other cities

I can’t believe i’ve been missing this my whole life. I feel much more Chris Chris now.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

I never said anything about Ft. Worthies being inferior. I’ve just been saying that Ft. Worth is not good in comparison to Dallas and Ft. Worthies are dicks to Dallasites for no good reason. But you sir are a shining example of a reasonable Ft. Worthie.*

*The final sentence can be considered to be sarcastic.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

"but Ft. Worth is inferior in every capacity."

-Future Pants-

See, blanket statements like that are what engender such reactions. Even this comment wouldn’t come across so obnoxious if you said WHY that is. Instead, you just tell everyone to take your word for it. That it just is.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 10, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

Saying Ft. Worth is inferior does not mean the residents of Ft. Worth are terrible. I just think they are dicks for no reason to Dallasites. That doesn’t mean they are dicks in general – just dicks to us.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

it’s all so clear now

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is how we feel about Dallasites

If it rains most would drown.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

No offense to people from Ft. Worth, but if given the choice, I’ll pick Dallas 99% of the time.

The 1% is there’s a really, really good show at Billy Bob’s.

My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.

by ghtd36 on Mar 9, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Edit.
The 1% is when there’s a really, really good show at Billy Bob’s.

Fixed.

My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.

by ghtd36 on Mar 9, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

Sundance Square in downtown Ft. Worth is way better than anything downtown Dallas has to offer hands down.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 9, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree.

I’d rather spend time in Uptown or Lower Greenville or Deep Ellum (well, maybe notsomuch Deep Ellum) than Sundance Square, though I do like FtW on the whole.

My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.

by ghtd36 on Mar 9, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lower Greenville is cool but the rest meh...

Downtown Ft. Worth is much cleaner than downtown Dallas and has free parking on the weekends and after 5pm during the week day. Not to mention the people are much nicer. The only good thing about downtown Dallas is the West End on OU/UT weekend. Oh and the book depository and Dely Plaza.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 9, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you making such an out of whack comparison?

What does downtown Dallas have to do with anything? You are cherrypicking the best Ft. Worth has to offer and comparing it to a relatively poor area of Dallas. (And even then, Sundance Square isn’t that much better than downtown Dallas).

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are talking about the downtown area are we not?

As stated above I really like the Lower Greenville area but for you to say downtown Dallas isn’t that far behind Sundance Square is just wrong. Sundance Square is far and away better than downtown Dallas. IMO

We could go on and on about Dallas v. Ft. Worth. It is all a matter of perspective of where you live and what you like.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stayed in FW last time I was in town for a Rangers game

At the hotel where JFK gave his last speech. I’m just thinking I’d try Dallas.

by WyoRanger on Mar 9, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, unlike Fort Worth, I hear they have electricity and paved roads and people in their sunday-go-to-meetin-clothes when it ain't even sunday and whatnot

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 9, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked FW

But from where I was staying (don’t remember the name but I’m sure you all know) there wasn’t much around. I’m not going to have a car (I have no sense of direction and hate driving all over town) so maybe Dallas isn’t the place to be since I just want to walk out of my hotel and hit good bars at will and go to a very good restaurant with a quick taxi ride. I’ve done this in various large cities so I’m wondering how to do it in Dallas.

by WyoRanger on Mar 9, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

My comment wasn't directed at you, but rather certain Dallasites who seem to think they live in some cultural mecca and feel the need to bigtime FW, despite the fact that they've never lived outside of Texas

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 9, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

And

Ft. Worthites (Ft. Worthies?) are just as irritating with their unending Napoleon complex and incessant need to bash Dallas residents as stuck up pretentious jerks, when most of them have never set foot inside the city limits.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You must have missed the part where I said I really liked Dallas

I repeat, I really like Dallas.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 10, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is really your claim

that most people from ft. worth haven’t gone to Dallas?

I don’t really get the whole Ft. Worth v. Dallas thing. Maybe it’s because I grew up in the suburbs and haven’t really lived there in my adult life but it seems like a stupid choice. I do have adult friends that live there now and it just seems like they split their time between Sundance and various areas of Dallas. I don’t think anybody claims one area better than the other – nor has some nationalistic tie to one area.

To even talk about Ft. Worth people as separate from Dallas seems strange.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are pretty far apart.

Your friends regularly split time between Ft. Worth in Dallas? Where do they live? I work downtown Dallas and driving to downtown Ft. Worth (courthouse) is a whip; it’s farther than you’d think. When I go out in Ft. Worth, I stay with friends there because it’s a loooong way home.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i've lived in the suburbs for 18 years

i know the relative distances. I grew up in mid cities area so maybe we just have access to both more so than others.

But you’re really telling me that you could pick out the difference between a Ft. Worthie and a Dallasite (can we possibly come up with stupider nicknames?)

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pick out differences

…by the way they look? Or what? Either way, probably not.

I like Worthies fine, I just wish they didn’t have an unquenchable need to rip Dallasites as pretentious, snobs, etc.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

But that goes the other way also

Dallasites would have you believe that Worthies are backwards country folk. God what stupid ass nicknames. lol

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

I think “Worthies” is funny!

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol as do I

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."

by boomer1 on Mar 10, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
I like Worthies fine, I just wish they didn’t have an unquenchable need to rip Dallasites as pretentious, snobs, etc.

That is some fuckin’ ironic shit.

by brettgardner on Mar 10, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record

i grew up in Arlington, I live in Mansfield, and I work in Dallas. I spend a fair amount of time in both cities. The only major difference I see is the uptown area — Ft Worth doesn’t have something quite like that. The TCU area is somewhat similar (and maybe the new 7th street developments), but it’s not quite the same.

I just find it incredibly humorous when people who live and work in Dallas act like it’s a whole ‘nother world than FtW. It’s not just F.P. — I have friends who do it too (and they grew up in Arlington like me and know that it’s not that different). It really just cracks me up.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

Look, I just don’t think it’s common to split significant time between the two cities other than possibly for work purposes (like myself, at times). Is that really “incredibly humorous?”

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I really do find it funny

that people who live basically the same lives 30 miles apart act like one city is “inferior in every capacity.” To each their own though.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

from now on

i would like to know where your allegiances lie before I respond to your comments.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I really like Dallas, but this notion that Dallas is so damn cosmopolitan and the Big F is some provincial hicksville is pretty ridiculous, especially when there are dozens of cities who'd look down their nose at Big D, whether justified or not

Get over yourself Dallasites, you’re not even the coolest city in Texas.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 9, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

See, wasn't that last part obnoxious?

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 9, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Mar 9, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

for sure

we all know Houston is the center of the world. Everybody loves Houston. That’s why they make the World Series every year

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston

I’ve been there once, and haven’t been in any hurry to go back.

It’s like Dallas, only with even worse traffic and humidity. Not to mention the idiots who harassed me for having long hair (this was about 10 years ago) at an Astros game.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Mar 10, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is the coolest city in Texas?

And who in Dallas claims that Dallas is the “coolest?”

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Austin

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 10, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

depends what you like to do

but i would think austin is pretty far up that list

good nightlife – check
people – check
great sports – check
great (local) food – check
good weather – check

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh nice..

well you’ll have a good time.

Are you doing the whole 6th street bit?

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 10, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Partly

I’ll be there for SXSW; I know Saturday I’ll be at Maggie Mae’s to see The Hold Steady, among other bands.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love Lake Travis too...

and all that has to offer.

I’ve lived in all 3 cities:

Dallas: Great place to live, a bit pretentious at times Close to Ranger stuff which is huge.

Houston: too sprawling, horrendous traffic, hot AND steamy, too many rednecks

Austin: young, hip, fresh. progressive, best weather, hill country, the third coast, everything you need really. It was particulary charming over ten years ago when I went to school there. It’s much more sprawling and traffic ridden these days The word got out and it lost some of that charm but still pretty nice.

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 10, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do also enjoy ...

a few pieces of County Line Barbecue from time to time. The one on 2222 which is nestled in the woods. The beans suck though,.. too ranch style for me.

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 10, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

What Big Guns said

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

...at the time, I wasn’t being truthful with myself. How could I be truthful with Katie Couric or CBS?

by Brian Thomas on Mar 10, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dallas

where Texans go to pretend like they are New Yorkers…

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Mar 9, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

yeh I used to think Dallas was all that...

until I moved to NYC. End of Dallas love affair.

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 9, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hotel

Just stay the W hotel. No one says it is bad, and it is expensive, has great bars and restaurants at the hotel.

by BearkatRangersfan on Mar 9, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

It's in Victory Park

So there will be some bars and restaurants. The lobby of the W is actually pretty cool – they call it the Living Room. There are a couple of bars and restaurants nearby; it’s not the cheapest of areas, however. Gingerman, Idle Rich, Blackfriar bars are all a $5 cab ride away, though just north on McKinney Ave.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're my new hero!

Those are my thoughts exactly. I get so tired of people in Dallas who think there is nothing worthwhile west of I-35E.

by ranger jim on Mar 9, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

If the Rangers ever schedule a game in Jackson Hole

can you put me up for a nite or two? Seriously though, are there any minor league games close to your area?

"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer

by rodcarew on Mar 9, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

i have always wondered this

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 9, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not in Jackson Hole - I'm in Cheyenne (about a 6 hour drive away)

Jackson Hole isn’t even a real part of Wyoming. Just a bunch of multimillionaire people that moved there from out of state. It’s beautiful, has great restaurants, is very very expensive and has some insufferable people (not all – just some).

The only minor league team is in Casper (Rockies rookie ball). For me I can just drive to Denver in an hour and change and take in a game.

by WyoRanger on Mar 10, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

serious questio (no snark)

how far are the bars from there?

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not far -

If you look at Google Maps, find Hotel Lumen, then there are some good bars at McKinney and Fairmount (Near Lemmon Ave.), there are several at Lemmon and Cole St., lower Greenville is at ~ Greenville and Ross (East side of 75).

Personally, one of my favorite bars in Dallas is walking distance from the Lumen, it’s a back corner of a barbecue joint in Snyder Plaza called Peggy Sue’s – mostly because it’s ultra cheap and I’m friends with the bartender. Not because it’s that cool, because it’s sort of a dump and average age of bar patron is over 50, easy.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok

technically it’s not far, but it’s a solid mile. I don’t think Dallas people realize that in other big cities, walking distance is real walking distance. And if things aren’t walking distance, you can take a bus or a train.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

What does this mean:

I don’t think Dallas people realize that in other big cities, walking distance is real walking distance.

What’s “real” walking distance? What’s walking distance to Dallasites? Are we all in better walking shape than other cities?

Nobody suggested walking from ZaZa to lower Greenville – that would be more than one mile.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

and then

mckinney and fairmount is 5 miles away

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

5 Miles from What?

Downtown? Or Hotel ZaZa? The walk to McKinney and Fairmount from Hotel ZaZa is less than 5 minutes. Downtown to McKinney and Fairmount is under 2 miles.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

we're talking about hotel lumen

and under 2 miles? that’s walking distance.

my claim isn’t that you walking distance is less than you think it is, it’s that nobody ever walk – you just drunk drive but it’s cool because it’s only a 5 minute drunk drive.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

royal you

your claim is really that 2 miles is walking distance?

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

AB

do you drive everywhere in Chicago or use the transit system?

What's the Nef tally??

by BigGuns on Mar 10, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

no car

transit system is awesome. I actually use the bus mostly (just because I don’t live particularly close to a train) but the train works for most people.

And the occasional taxi when you want to get home at 2:30 and don’t feel like waiting for anything.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where in Chicago you live?

Have many friends, sister and brother in law there. For baseball fans: my sister lives within a 5 minute walk to Wrigley and you can see the marquee from their roof deck. It’s way cool.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i live just south of wrigleyville in lincoln park

right on the border of lakeview and lincoln park. It’s nice – not great access to a train but close to the lake and the bus is fine.

Probably going to move to a new neighborhood (moving somewhere in july – getting married) but haven’t decided where. Early indications are west to Wicker Park or south to South Loop.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet

I love Chicago (depending on the time of year). Pretty sure I’ll be there for either Pitchfork Festival or Lollapalooza. I’d like to come for the Taste of Chicago, too.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

taste

locals seem to hate it. I thought it was pretty good and not so overpriced but not exactly a must see

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

In that case maybe I’ll come for the 4th of July. I may be there for the marathon again this year as my sister may be running in it?

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

pitchfork is shaping up nicely

I had to miss it last summer with prior obligations but this summer I’m definitely going all three days

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by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never claimed 2 miles is walking distance.

I said ZaZa is walking distance to GMan and Idle Rich; I said Peggy Sue’s barbecue is walking distance to Lumen. That’s all I mentioned was walking distance, sorry if that wasn’t clear.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

i guess i just find it frustrating.

I’m having a bunch of guests come in to Dallas and I have no idea where to put them such that they will be walking distance from a bar (or any sort of action). And when I ask locals, all they seem to know is stuff that is close but by driving standards. McKinney seems like the best bet.

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by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Dallas is not Chicago or NYC – more spread out and poor public transportation. Cars are pretty much mandated.

Are you saying McKinney the city or McKinney the street in Dallas? (I refer to the street when I say McKinney.)

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

the street

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by ab03 on Mar 10, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont know how good this is in dallas

but in DC its awesome

http://www.yelp.com/dallas

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by knockoutking on Mar 9, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Have you eaten at the Old Ebbitt's Grill yet?

Highly recommend.

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by Brian Thomas on Mar 10, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

i have before, not recently though

but im more of a smaller, hole in the wall kinda guy

my favs in the area:
Ray’s Hell Burger (in Arlington) – awesome burger, not that expensive, a must visit imho
Oohs and Aahs (Soul food @ U Street) – was AMAZING one time and then mediocre another, but overall a little better than worse
2 amys (cleveland park-ish — near the national cathedral) — great pizza, but a far walk from the metro @ cleveland park
dino (cleveland park metr0o — near uptown 1) — good italian, huge wine list if your into that (i dont drink)
alberto’s (dupont circle) – damn good pizza, much better than the more expensive sit-down style place across the st

i used to go out fairly often, but now i just cook a lot more haha

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KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Mar 10, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you live in the district?

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

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by Brian Thomas on Mar 11, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bars Near Hotel

Someone mentioned hotel ZaZa, which is near some bars that I really love that you could walk to. They are:

Gingerman Dallas
Idle Rich Pup
Blackfriar Pub
And I never really go here, but it’s nearby and seems popular: Uptown Bar & Grill

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh

And Brett Hull and Mike Modano’s restaurant/bar is now open right there, too: Hully & Mo. The food there is pretty good; not too expensive, plus in the bar in the back they let you smoke cigars inside, which is always a plus.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gingerman is a cool place

I like both the Dallas and the dirty filthy low down no good Ft Worth location.

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by Dirk Diggler on Mar 10, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I do like me some Gingerman

Great patio, but the beer is awfully pricey for being a divey type beer joint.

by FuturePants on Mar 10, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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