Just got an email from Dewan’s publicists with an excerpt from the book. Interestingly, he tries to ...

Just got an email from Dewan’s publicists with an excerpt from the book. Interestingly, he tries to answer the question at the top of my interview prep sheet: How much of an impact will Young have at third base. According to Dewan, he’ll be worth about four wins.

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Elvin Andrus, heh.

Encouraging read…

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Mar 9, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My favorite part

Was Brian schooling some schmo in the comments section.

by brettgardner on Mar 9, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Spectacular.

If that actually ends up being true, I’ll almost get over his douche act and the poor-man’s Jeter treatment.

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by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Incredibly spectacular.

He would almost be worth his contract at 4 wins. Hell, no almost about it.

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by t ball on Mar 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, no

I got ahead of myself, that’s not what he’s saying. Oh well, he won’t be as much overpaid.

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by t ball on Mar 9, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then I got ahead of myself, too.

I’m exposed. I didn’t click the link.

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by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hope it plays out that way.

And EG needs to figure out if his name is Dewan or DeWan…

by JBImaknee on Mar 9, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's Dewan

I’m an idiot. But that’s kind of stating the obvious. Seriously, if you’ve got questions you want John Howeveryouspellhislastname to answer, send them to me at evan.grant@dmagazine.com

by Evan Grant on Mar 9, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

by Brett Perryman on Mar 9, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 9, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and That.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 9, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

there are a lot of if's there

like Young playing average 3B – but still very encouraging.

Realistically, what are people’s expectations of Young? I won’t be terribly disappointed with -10 runs for the season.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That seems fair

I have hope that he’ll have a good offensive year, but nothing much to base that on.

by Brett Perryman on Mar 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think a -5 to -10 would be fine...

…if he showed improvement throughout the year. I’d like to see signs of him being a plus defender next year, especially since he is very likely to be a below average hitter by then.

by GhettoBear04 on Mar 9, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Defensively?

If he’s -10 runs on the season, we’ve got a huge, huge problem.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 9, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you don't think that is a reasonable expectation?

i don’t see why we have a huge problem. That means we only gain 3 runs instead of 4 defensively.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

I don’t think that him being ~~10 runs defensively at third base -~~ in other words, him being well below average there — is a reasonable expectation.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 9, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Young’s low-end for 3B would be -10 runs, but also that his good-side (arm, dependable hands) should translate well.
I think average defensively should be expected, which is a huge jump up from our below-replacement level defense there last year.

by Trickman on Mar 9, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

low end

that’s more like what I meant. -10 won’t be shocking but I’m hoping for better

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My expectations are about league-average.

A two WARish player. By some combination of average to slightly above average offense and maybe 5 or 10 runs below average defensively.

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by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Young won't hurt the team defensively

Which is all I would want to see from him at 3B this year. He’s got the tools to be above average, but in his first year at 3B, I would expect for him to make some rookie mistakes.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 9, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

MY and 3rd base

haven’t most here at LSB been clamoring for MY to be moved to 3rd due to his lack of mobility at SS? Looks like you should be glad since you got what you wanted. Unless MY goes down with some unforeseen injury, ain’t nobody else gonna play 3rd for this team ’less Warsh decides MY needs a day off. The hate for MY is mighty apparent in some quarters here on LSB.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Mar 9, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

um, i think everybody here wanted MY to move to 3rd base

you hipster dufus

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should specify

everyone is glad

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I’m glad that he was moved. Not sure what hate you are talking about.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 9, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess I could read this post in this thread to read as a form of hate.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/3/9/787303/just-got-an-email-from-dew#12903537

hipster dufus

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Mar 9, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

why the F did you link to the same page?

why not just say “philkid3’s comment above”

hipster dufus.

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by TxStCa on Mar 9, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it is a form of hate

but not hating the move.

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why not? is there a rule against that? if so, please point it out to me.

Hipster dufus

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Mar 9, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why not

mix in the reply button.

Yo soy dooty

by robert_d_wilfong on Mar 9, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hipster dufus

is one of Elaine’s best lines on Seinfeld. Makes me laugh everytime I hear it, but I think it’s doofus.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Mar 9, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

it is doofus

damn, my bad.

But I don’t think it was Elaine’s line originally. It was the wheelchair girl that called Kramer a hipster doofus.

Did Elaine also say it and was she first?

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you're right.

Which makes me a doofus for thinking it was one of my fave Elaine lines.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Mar 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, I thought it somehow meant 4 wins from neutral

not 4 wins defensively with a -26 runs baseline.

How many does he immediately give back in probably lesser offense than we got from 3b last year.

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by DSheppard on Mar 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

do you remember how much offense we got last year from 3b?

"To be ignorant of one’s ignorance is the malady of the ignorant."

by ab03 on Mar 9, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We got some?

by Inkara1 on Mar 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

800 OPS

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

809 to be exact

Which is a little lower than I thought probably because Duran dragged it down in his at bats, but whats the over/under on young?

Granted its probably not too many runs worth.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Mar 9, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd say about .750-.760

by Telegraph on Mar 9, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably accurate

Oye. That’s probably not league average.

by WyoRanger on Mar 9, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

That is not up to league average. I can’t find an exact average OPS for 3B, but this chart from THT would put a .750 – .760 OPS at the bottom for those who qualify (not sure how many PA’s a player needs).

by Excel Hearts Choi on Mar 9, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In 2008

ML average for 3B was 778.

by Adam J. Morris on Mar 9, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And isn't offense still on the decline?

I think a .778 OPS or somewhere in that neighborhood is reasonable to expect from Young if he isn’t playing hurt.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope you're right.

I’d love a .300/.350/.425 season out of him this year.

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I love you, Marcus Lemon.

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by thedirkatron on Mar 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would lower the SLG a bit

and raise the BA and OBP. I doubt Young’s power would go higher than it was a couple of years ago since he is on the decline, but I think he’ll still be able to be a great contact hitter and mix in some walks there.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Mar 9, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You never know

It’s not out of the question that with a healthy ten digits he could hit a bunch of doubles again and keep that slugging pct. up there.

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by t ball on Mar 9, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although I've generally been on the optimistic side about MY

I believe he’ll be leage average or better defensively (the translation of hands and decent arm without regard to range) and will approach career average offensively. Not sure how that calculates for WAR, but should be OK and an improvement from the past couple of years.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912)

by Ed Coffin on Mar 9, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yup

I agree with all of this. I truly believe he can handle the position and will provide better offense than we had from 3B last year. He’s not the masher you’d like at third but I think he could be above average defensively. If not he’ll be at least league average. I just like the confirmation from Dewan which to me means league average offense and defense which is better than last year.

by WyoRanger on Mar 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At third, that would be about average.

Which is about 2 WAR. Probably a little better for him if he gets typical playing time.

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by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry, you said career average.

For him that’s actually a little bit better, closer to 3 WAR.

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by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he can be 2-3 WAR for the rest of his contract

It will be at least tolerable

by Telegraph on Mar 9, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

But I will be surprised if he doesn’t decline every year.

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by philkid3 on Mar 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

m

by Mike E on Mar 9, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only knock on MY's play at SS was his range, right?

I mean we can all agree on that. MY arm is strong, he has good hands and he moves quick to his left (IIRC, MY’s strength is moving left). All of this points to a player well equipped for playing the position. I see no reason not to believe he will be above avg. defensively. Range has little value at 3B.

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by Parman on Mar 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry to repeat you ED

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by Parman on Mar 9, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT. the Rangers signed,

some dude named Daniel Rodriguez to a minor league deal link

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