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Friday night linkaliciousness

Scattershooting while wondering whatever happened to Habib (Tom "Too Cheap" Hicks Sucks!)...

Jonathan Papelbon is a crybaby:

In the debut of his weekly web-only interview segment on Comcast SportsNet, Cinco Ocho - or should I call him Cinco Dopo - was irate that the players had to walk through Fenway Park's stands during Opening Day introductions.

The Boston Globe said "this symbolic gesture was made by the players to thank the fans personally for their passion, dedication, and unwavering support." And even a Yankee fan like me thought it was a cool thing to do.

But Papelbon agreed with Comcast hosts Gary Tanguay and Michael Felger that it was unsafe. "I know the fans probably loved it," he said, but "you do have to be safe, especially walking down the steps and stuff like that." OMG, steps!

"Just a terrible idea by [Red Sox senior vice president] Sarah McKenna, that was the person who came up with this idea, very stupid of her, " Papelbon said. "And if she pulls another act like that, she can go down to Pawtucket."

Yeah.  He was already on my Eric Byrnes/Nick Swisher list. 

The Dallas Morning News got rid of its Rangers beat coverage, apparently so it can devote more resources to things like having Martellus Bennett blog at their Cowboy blog.  About things like girl farts.  Seriously.

There are thirteen majors leaguers with at least 1000 games who have spent their whole major league career with just one team.  One of them is a Ranger, and the whole A.L. West would have been represented if the Angels had brought Garret Anderson back.

Christina Kahrl had a chat session today, and it included a Chris Davis question.  She also runs down the final transactions for the A.L. teams leading up to Opening Day.

Beyond the Boxscore examines the defensive stats for various minor league catching prospects, and notes that the stats back up Taylor Teagarden's stellar rep.

Dave Cameron says the ChiSox need a centerfielder, and should look at trading for Marlon Byrd.  Joe Sheehan says the D-Rays should consider trading Scott Kazmir, and suggests they look at a swap with the Rangers involving Derek Holland.

Jayson Stark says that if Kevin Millwood keeps pitching the way he did on Opening Day, he'll have teams interested in trading for him.

 

 

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I suppose so after today

It would seem he needs more time in AAA.

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Turnbow?

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blew the game last night for the Redhawks.

Franklyn German had better control than Derrick Turnbow.

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea

I just want to know who should have been in the game at that point when it was already out of hand

by trgordon723 on Apr 10, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No. Shut up.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 10, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you had the slightest shredded whiff of a talent for it you could

But you don’t.

So you can’t.

So shut up.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Apr 10, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holland for Kazmir Would ya?

I don’t think I would.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

No.

Holland will be as good as Kazmir, only healthy.

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a boldass statement

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Apr 10, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 10, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 10, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

Kazmir’s got 4 years (counting 09) left at $28.5 million. He’s also only 25.

It would hurt like hell to trade Holland, and Hicks wouldn’t be happy about the money, but Kazmir is legit. He’s got a career 125 era+. He’s averaged 172 ip the last 4 years (that would be ages 21-24).

…and he misses bats like crazy…

"LSB: We’re all-scaploading, all the time." -AJM

by BAC on Apr 10, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's also had elbow problems that have hurt the quality of his slider though

I love him, he’s one of my favorite lefties to watch work, but I wouldn’t trade someone like Holland for him.

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell no.

Can you say, cliff-dweller?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 10, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millwood

If he keeps pitching the way he did on opening day then the Rangers might be in contention themselves and should not trade him……and I think he will.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by LSBUser on Apr 10, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

13 players

I got 11 of 13 without looking.

I also had Konerko and Brian Roberts. Didn’t think Rollins had been around that long and I never would have guessed Jack Wilson.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 10, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

The DMN has gone almost exclusively to blogs for their sports coverage. It’s pathetic. There is more info-tainment writing on the sports pages than actual coverage of the sport(s). I get that the new media thing is popular and it does have a place. But so does real reporting. The blogs are done solely to entertain the masses, not inform. The idea that any moron with an internet connection can get online and say something absolutely retarded to both the author and the readers on a supposed news site kills any semblance of legitimacy. Rant over.

by Tech92 on Apr 10, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Inside Corner

has been great at providing info and commentary

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 10, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it has

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
The blogs are done solely to entertain the masses, not inform.

Sorry, but you’re dead wrong there. Both the DMN and FWST blogs have been legitimate and reliable sources of information for the past couple years, and Evan Grant and Mike Hindman have taken the sports blog to a new level this year over on “Inside Corner”. We live in an increasingly digital society, and “real reporting” has had to adapt to that. And the adaptation has been the beat reporter-written blog.

The readers on sites like the DMN and MLB.com may be morons, but thanks to sites like LSB, BBTiA and The Newberg Report it’s something that can be ignored for the most part.

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

solely to entertain?

I disagree. And so do others.

Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.

by 3k on Apr 10, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s fair enough. As a journalist in my past life, it bugs me that major print media is dying, so I’m probably more cynical about new media. I see its place, just don’t like the way the DMN handles their sports coverage lately. Evan is good, that I do agree with. It was just very odd that there wasn’t a guy at the Rangers spring training from the DMN. I realize the DMN and FWST have combined their coverage with their coverage. Just miss the old days of the beat writer.

But I do think many of the DMN sports blogs, especially the Cowboys coverage and Big XII coverage, is pretty much pandering to the lowest common denominator in a lot of cases.

by Tech92 on Apr 11, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

So Gabbard almost hurt himself on a warm up pitch?

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Shit, did it again

Wrong thread.

I’d never done that before yesterday and now I’ve done it 2 days in a row. Sheesh.

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by LSJ on Apr 10, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get it together, man.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 10, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ummm

Go to town with that vaseline intensive care lotion if you want. I’m not here to judge.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 11, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

you are seriously the worst

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 11, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brett Anderson

2 IP, 5 ER

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 10, 2009 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

early returns of the night

maintain our mighty one game lead.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 10, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on my first time watching him....

His delivery is a lot more herky-jerky than I expected given his exemplary control. I don’t like it at all. It’s almost a two part delivery, though I guess it works for him.

He’s gonna have some trouble missing bats. Not that it’ll matter too much given his control, but, still. I don’t see an ace here.

He’s very unfortunate looking. Pudgy, ugly redneck with vacant eyes. I don’t like him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 10, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

55 pitches thru 4 giving up 5 runs is pretty impressive.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 10, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, I wrote that right after watching the second inning.

He was very efficient in pretty much every other frame, and it was his first big league game, after all.

Pitch to contact guy with good movement and control of all of his pitches.
If he can miss some bats he could be a really solid #2.

I’d love to have him on our staff for a long time to come.

He’s still an ugly white trash-looking chubster, though.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 11, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have to be at least a bit impressed by his resilience in his first start.

Two hits, one walk, and no runs allowed over the four innings following his disastrous second.

You’re right, though: he ain’t much to look at.

by Snark on Apr 11, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brett Anderson, one of the 90 mph fastball

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 11, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'll take the younger hard throwing lefty

under team control longer on the cheap over kazmir

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 11, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millwood

If he keeps pitching the way he did on Opening Day, we should keep him.

by Darrell McKown on Apr 10, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

TOMORROW!

Nah i’d guess not anytime before the all-star break.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Apr 10, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say that

Holland could be up by June

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 10, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's wargame...

Millwood gives us, by June 15th, 6 wins. Padilla gives us 5. McCarthy surprises us and gives us at least 4. Benson, however, bombs and only gets one, while Harrison shows what he’s made of and also gives us 6 wins. That’s 23-25 wins. Should we bring up those two into the starting rotation then? Or, what would be an acceptable win-loss ratio to where we start looking at bringing them up?

In memory of Nick Adenhart.

by ajbrandt1 on Apr 10, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

metal cleats

Does Papelbon wear metal cleats? It could be trecherous on concrete steps.

but “you do have to be safe, especially walking down the steps and stuff like that.” OMG, steps!

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 10, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Does Papelbon not own any sneakers?

Seriously, it’s not like he had to walk down the steps and then right into the game.

If metal cleats on the concrete steps is that big a concern (and I’ve done it… it does suck a little), then wear some sneakers for the pre-game intro and then change shoes in the dugout or in the bullpen during any of the first 6-7 innings when he ain’t got shit to do except sit around and think about how awesome it is to be a meat head.

Papelbon is a frat boy meat heady douche if ever there was one.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 11, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

You should set his genitals on fire!

Oh the humanity…

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 11, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good lord.

The vaunted new and improved A’s offense has left 29 guys on base after 7 innings.

by LiamP on Apr 10, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

29? Damn

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what Yahoo says.

Per AN/LL, it’s more like 14 LOB if you don’t recount guys on base after outs.

That’s still a ridiculous number.

by LiamP on Apr 10, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

29???????????

What in the world

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Apr 10, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Running on emotion tonight

There was no way they were going to lose tonight.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 10, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

They won.

I was rooting for them this game.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Apr 10, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs/Pineilla

Pulls Harden after 6IP/96 pitches. Then uses 6 relievers for the next 2.1 innings and bullpen loses the game. Overmanaging? Imagine the collective heartache if Wash did the same.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 10, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

yuck

Every time Pinella shows up at a baseball stadium, an angel loses its wings.

"LSB: We’re all-scaploading, all the time." -AJM

by BAC on Apr 11, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

But can you ever be too careful with Rich Harden?

Especially given his history of muscle strains and pulls and with the weather in Milwaukee in the 30’s.

I agree 100% with his decision to take Harden out there.

The 6 pitchers over the next 3 half frames was effing ridiculous, though. He took guys who were throwing well out to play to matchups, which I hate.

When you cycle through that many guys pretty soon the odds are that you’re gonna hit a guy who just doesn’t have it that day and you’re gonna get your penis singed.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 11, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear everyone complaining about Warner but what about Josh Rupe?

I think it’s about time we cut ties with him. When we got Rupe, he was supposed to be this great starting pitching prospect. Since he’s been on the team, he’s been turned into a long reliever/mop-up guy, and now, all of a sudden, he’s turned into a mop up reliever that can’t throw strikes. I think we can find a lot of guys, and we already have two in Nippert and Eyre, that can actually perform that job successfully.

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on Apr 11, 2009 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I think as soon as they have bodies to plug in

they’ll be ready to cut ties with lots of our pitchers. I think that if a lot of guys, like Diamond, didn’t spit the bit, our bullpen could look vastly different.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 11, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Diamond had a very positive outing tonight.

So hopefully he can put it together and be a real option soon.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 11, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Diamond

anyone know how many options he had left?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 11, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think they

had to use an option to put him on the 60 day dl last year, so if that’s the case he has two left.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 11, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he is on the 40

and in the minors this year, he is burning an option, isn’t he?

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 11, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 11, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

according to scott lucas's site

he has 1 left after this season

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 11, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need some guys to step up soon

thats why it was fairly disappointing that he didn’t step up in spring training. There are quite a few dead spots in that bullpen, it looks like.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 11, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Diamond

He was pretty good in his AAA debut last night, retired 8 straight batters but was immediately pulled after he gave up a solo HR. Aside from the dinger though he was excellent.

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by LSJ on Apr 11, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

D'oh, should've read the thread above.

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by LSJ on Apr 11, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't go proclaiming Eyre is better than Rupe just yet

But yeah, Rupe hasn’t been very impressive since about midseason last year. Supposedly that had been because of overwork, but his command issues have carried over into this season and he does look pretty expendable once we find someone who can do his job better.

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by LSJ on Apr 11, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

what would the ChiSox give up to get Byrd?

I really like the guy, I think he’s great for the clubhouse and a far better player than Murphy. However considering all OFers the Rangers have and the fact that he will be a FA after the season if they can get a good prospect or two for him they have to do it don’t they?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 11, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I think you have to

Next year, the OF will be 5 of Cruz, Hammy, Murphy, Boggs, Golson, and Borbon. Byrd’s time in Arlington is coming to an end. He’s been a great guy to have on the team, but I’m sure JD is exploring possibilities. He’s probably going to be a Type B FA, barring a big shift in rules/performance – so as long as you can get someone who is worth a supplemental draft pick (not too hard to do), then make the deal.

Of course, if somehow Texas stays in it, then keep him.

by JBImaknee on Apr 11, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

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