So, yeah
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2009 7:25 PM CDT
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These sorts of games make me wonder why I want to be a fan of a team, at least at the level that I am. When I think I'd be happier being more of a surface fan, deriving my opinions from sound bites on talk radio and not feeling so emotionally invested in what goes on.
Getting down by a ton early is demoralizing. Having a good pitching performance, but with an offense that can put no runs on the board, is demoralizing.
But having a game in hand, a good offensive performance and a stellar starting pitching performance, with what appears to be an outing that will right the ship and keep the team above .500, and have it fall apart by a bullpen meltdown late in the game?
That's a gut punch.
I'm just glad I wasn't watching the game, was following it on my Blackberry, frantically hitting refresh and hoping against hope the Rangers would find some way to get out of the inning, even though I knew -- I knew -- when Adam Everett singled after being down 0-2 it was a loss.
And I remember listening on the radio in the car, as the Rangers mounted threats, up 4-0, only to see them fizzle out, and thinking, this is going to come back to haunt.
Good grief, I hate games like this.
All the good feeling I had from the opening series is completely gone right now.
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One of the beautiful things about baseball ...
is there is always another game tomorrow. Keep your chin up my friend.
by Athos on Apr 12, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that, brother!
I can’t wait to whoop up on some little birds tomorrow night!
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How would you like to have been Kevin Millwood…sitting on the bench watching what you thought was an AWESOME outing completely turned to crap by CJ Wilson.
Ugh…
What signature?
by trekds9 on Apr 12, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Millwood gave him a good talking to
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, because
Millwood has never let the team down.
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by t ball on Apr 12, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....
Nevermind. You’re right. lol.
Still, I’m sure he’s pissed.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think that Millwood
might be pissed, but also has years of experience and wisdom about the way the ball bounces.
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by t ball on Apr 12, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason I keep going
is so that the day they win it all, I can say I’ve been there all along. That’s what I cling to anyways.
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Apr 12, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know
One of the things that sticks out at me about the Bartman game was a shot at the end, of an old woman, had to have been in her 80s, sitting in the stands quietly with a tear running down her face.
I’m afraid that’s going to be me…80 years old, sitting in whatever the successor to RBIA is, watching the team come close and fall short yet again.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think how ed must feel
AJM.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How Ed feels
I’ve been quiet, as usual, not saying much ever in game day threads, and really not a lot in general. Today I was actually angry. Not sad, just angry. And this may be totally off the mark, but I think despite starter conditioning, upbeat morale within the team, and the primise being delivered by Hamilton, Kinsler, Cruz et al – the biggest single problem is ANY eighth inning. Last year, three years ago, seven years ago, and I don’t know how often in other years – the eighth inning undermines whole seasons for the Rangers. We ten to blame the manager (and both Buck and Wash have looked truly stupid about such things as matchups when inserting an eighth inning reliever). If simply bad reliever selection is the problem, the team is 2 for 2 in having the wrong manager making the call. We tend to blame the pitching coach, which is spurious because it happens when starters are doing a good job too. We wonder about the bullpen coach, and why he doesn’t just tell the bench coach and manager “Hey this guy has nothing today, do not put him in”. None of those are rational thoughts, even insofar as baseball is an irrational game. Short of never playing an eighth inning, what should be done? (And I have too much human empathy for the pitchers selected to pitch the eighth to blame them when they are doing the best they can, knowing MLB jobs can disappear overnight and having some pride in their body of work). So how do we end up with the wrong guy at the wrong time in the wrong place so often in eighth innings?
I guess how I feel is mystified, at least as much as angry. But the closest thing I can think of as a possible fault and solution to that fault is STOP permanent inning assignments for the pen. Think, don’t rely on structure or tradition or even horse sense. Think !!! What is your best matchiup on the three opponents coming up in the 8th. If you can’t stop and figure that out, you can’t manage, and you can’t coachy. Just my opinion, and how I feel. You all know me. I don’t mind losses, they are part of the game. I do mind repetition of what doesn’t work.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 12, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
which match-up would you have used?
by Redcaps on Apr 12, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Against those specific batters?
Any right hander who keeps the ball down. Yes, that’s nice hindsight. And don’t know if Jennings was available, but I’d have had two righties up. Then again, what do I know. I hope you aren’t asking to debate how I feel, which was the question.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 12, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
but the idea of assigned bullpen roles has always been a sour point, but it is what it is. It’s incredibly frustrating but it’s really easy to falled into assigned manager truisms because it’s much harder for media and surface fans to criticize someone for putting in their 8th inning man in the 8th inning and they blow it than if they put in a random reliever in the 8th inning and they blow it. it’s the idea that it’s good to be safe that keeps stupid things like assigned roles overcome rational choices like playing matchups. It’s how it goes.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our pen was toast
Jennings pitched over 30 pitches the day before…Rupe threw a lot…and feldman threw about 50 2 days ago
i think the simple answer is that CJ needed to come in and not pitch like a complete sack of shit
it doesnt take that much analysis…4 run lead…get 3 fuckin outs…we’re overthinking this shit
by Horns130 on Apr 12, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
talent
I think it just comes down to talent. CJ pitches the 8th because thier really isn’t anyone better. On a playoff caliber team he pitches the 7th or is a loogy.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 12, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely
he’s a LOOGY on a playoff calibur team or he’s traded for being a headcase.
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from Evan's The Depot blog during the game
2:22: I’ll just say "C.J. Wilson." And I’ll let you handle the rest of the discussion. The number of ways he left the pitching staff in a lurch today after blowing a4-0 eighth-inning lead might equal the number of Tweets he sent out in the last 24 hours. For the record, he sent out 11 Tweets. Among this morning Twitter topics: Somali pirates, Jack Bauer, breakfast burritos and a bad dream about a Loch Ness monster-type of creature. Guessing tonight’s dreams will not be any better.
Funny but sadly acurate.
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 12, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be too much of a thinking man to play baseball.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because great thinkers
can be identified by their Tweets, burritos and Jack Bauer thoughts.
Wilson is not a great thinker. He just vocalizes his thoughts more than most.
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by t ball on Apr 12, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You obviously missed
Stephen Hawking’s new book – the Zen of Jack Bauer as told through Twitter.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New bestseller, isn't it?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great thinker maybe not.
Frequent thinker maybe.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That...
Might be the best description of CJ Wilson I’ve ever seen.
by lonestarJon on Apr 12, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
and, he is a guy this bullpen is counting on
"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."
by NothinG on Apr 12, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
enough with the CJ, BS
so, he cant live a regular freaking life? the dude isn’t “tweeting” during games, or slacking off of his “baseball time” to tweet, the dude is a solid guy, who does solid stuff for his community, and doesn’t get arrested for stupid crap, he cuts his hair funny, he wears a blue glove, he blogs, and now he tweets, the dude has been solid in 3 out of 4 appearance’s this year, I HATE THIS LOSS, yes CJ pitched bad, does he suck? HELL NO! if Andrus makes that play at short, then we aren’t having this conversation are we?? dont get me wrong I dont blame him, just saying there is a lot worse 8th inning guys out there than CJ
by blueballlefty on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, to a point
He’s flaky, but his tweeting has nothing to do with his pitching. It’s at least as irrelevant as the number of cell phone calls or text messages any other player received or sent this morning.
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by t ball on Apr 12, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who gives a flying F if he twitters
every time cj has a blowup or a problem evan is right there to bring up his car racing and blogging.
life outside of baseball has jack to do with a crappy performance
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 13, 2009 5:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That means
Evan gets to bring it up quite a bit.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but it is still irrelevant
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 13, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever you
put yourself out in the public and say, “Hey look at me”, don’t be surprised if you draw fire when things are going poorly.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's so ridiculous
I don’t see how a post about racing cars or breakfast burritos is saying “Hey look at me”
I’d like to know what bearing his posts had on his crappy inning of pitching. It’s just another lame excuse for the media to jump on a guy that had a bad day.
If guys like Evan don’t want the rep of dumping on the guy when he is down — then Evan needs to make snarky comments about it when CJ comes in and actually pitches well (who knows when that will be).
And it’s not like he’s standing out in the bullpen with a megaphone saying things “publicly.” If Evan hadn’t reported what CJ was saying on Twitter, 99% of Ranger fans wouldn’t even know about it.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 13, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having your own blog
as a ballplayer, or twittering, is saying look at me, whether its CJ, or Curt Schilling, or whoever.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it is being a typical 20-something in 2009
Whether or not he twittered that morning before ever going to the ballpark had zero affect on him giving up some hits later in the game.
Like I said, if Evan hadn’t reported it — you wouldn’t know. God knows the great curmudgeon Cahill isn’t checking CJ’s twitter feed.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 13, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
calm down Mrs. Wilson
when you have a day that bad it doesn’t matter if you are Mother Teresa people are still going to be picking you over.
by bushe on Apr 13, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm very calm Mr. Bushe
I have no problem if people want to rip CJ the pitcher. I just think it is lame to act as if his morning posts on twitter had anything to do with it.
It comes across as incredibly lazy criticism.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 13, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
I think Evan is just twitterpated with the idea of pitcher + the internet = failure
by bushe on Apr 13, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're winning the world series in 2011.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Apr 12, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cheer up AJM
Tomorrow is Monday. The start of a new week and new Ranger homestand. Uehara, Simon and Hendrickson are not quite the same quality of SPs the Rangers just faced.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 12, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we have a new bullpen starting Monday?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Apr 12, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pretty much sums it up right there
I don’t have anything to add to that…
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
by boomer1 on Apr 12, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's worse?
Being a Rangers fan or being a Cubbies fan?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubbies.
They have been doing it for 100 years.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 12, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't matter
because my entire lifetime neither has won, so it’s all the same. I don’t buy into the “it hurts worse because it happened 100 years ago” idea — I’m 25, so all I care about is the last 25 years, and really only the last 16 because before that it is irrelevant to me.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 12, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Rangers fans aren't unreasonable, vitriol-spewing snobs
Although Galloway and Reeves are quickly steering the average Ranger fans in that direction.
by lonestarJon on Apr 12, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this assessment.
I really sit here wondering why I’m a sports fan. Why I allow a team to dictate my emotions so much. Let alone a team that has never really delivered on my emotional investment.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blowing opps.
“And I remember listening on the radio in the car, as the Rangers mounted threats, up 4-0, only to see them fizzle out, and thinking, this is going to come back to haunt.”-AJM
This is what kills me over the years, especially the Rudy years. 4-0 lead, and just swinging for numbers. In the 5th, we had 2nd and 3rd, one out, and Hamilton swings at a second pitch that was never in his zone on the outside. Weak GO to SS. Then Blalock wails at the first pitch with a weak FO to end the inning. Bonds spoiled me. Wait for your pitch fellas.
Damn, today sucked. It makes these little things magnified, and I haven’t even mentioned the bullpen.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 12, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scoop
couldn’t agree more. I don’t know if it is Rudy or just the overall team philosophy, but we don’t situationally hit very well at all. There really shouldn’t be any way a guy like Hamilton can’t lift something to the OF to score a run. Blalock refuses to go the other way anymore even though he was a damn .300 hitter back when he used the whole field. It’s damn frustrating to see that crap.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 12, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell are you people
and why do you just come in and say the first thing on your mind without ever checking if it’s even remotely correct?
The Rangers are hitting .375 /w RISP entering today, they had one of the highest rates of converting baserunners into runs last year. Situational hitting is idiotic nonsense, what the team needs to do in general is to take more pitches – like they did last year. If they do that they’ll be a better team. If they don’t, they’ll be these same feast and famine rangers.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's basically what I was getting at.
Hamilton and Blalock swung early for no reason. They didn’t work the count for pitches to drive. I don’t know that 5 games is enough to judge their RISP avg. Yesterday they really didn’t even have a chance to test it.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 12, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I totally agree
with you, it was more a response to the guy directly above me. taking pitches is awesome cause it yields more scoring opportunities, and this lineup is theoretically good enough where every hitter except maybe Andrus is a significant threat to drive a guy in. It’s incredibly frustrating when Hammy or ESPECIALLY Hank swings at a piece of crap offering on the first pitch and get themselves out.
It’s the idiotic focus on stuff like “situational hitting” that frustrates the living hell out of me.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay
situational hitting is not idiotic, it’s “awesome” It’s the reason why teams like the Angels are good offensively despite not having the names and numbers on paper that the Rangers do. Part of situational hitting is taking pitches. It’s understanding in Hamilton’s case that any ball to the OF in my at bat drives in a run. So I’m going to wait for something I can lift or drive to the OF and guarantee my team a run. The entire game of baseball is situational hitting. It’s not little league baseball where everyone is going to hit .600. Sometimes, you have to do things to give yourself up and help the team. Now that’s “awesome”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 12, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AWESOME!
Wow. I hope this is real.
"LSB: We’re all-scaploading, all the time." -AJM
by BAC on Apr 12, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck man
another dillhole is not to be celebrated.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I belong
right here. You actually said working the count is awesome, but you don’t believe in situational hitting or productive outs as Andy put it below. He might have been being sarcastic, but that’s okay if he was. I do personally believe in those things. I’ve sat through many baseball coaching clinics and listened to top H.S., college, and pro baseball coaches preach the exact same thing. A sac bunt is a productive out. But you, the nameless, faceless, LSB poster know way more about baseball than them. You should start coaching baseball with your working the count is awesome philosophy. You will change the entire game as we know it. You would be a revolutionary figure in the game. Firebat’s baseball theory. Take a bunch of pitches, than swing for the fences.
A sac fly is a productive out. A groundball to the rightside with no one out and a man on 2nd is a productive out. If you do those things enough, you might steal a few wins when your offense is scuttling. Just taking pitches isn’t enough. Eventually you have to swing the bat and be productive when you do.
Firebat, nice name calling. I bet you are really tough sitting in your basement with your kitty cats calling people dillholes.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 12, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well holy shit
you listened to baseball coaches preach about productive outs? Why the fuck did you not say so, now your opinions are totally relevant! Cause that’s the litmus test for opinions around here – not statistics, not evidence, not proven inequities – but the fact that you’ve listened to countless coaches sprout the same level of banalities. But if this post was any indication, banalities are exactly what you’re into.
I guess I could take a lot of time to try to explain how the whole idea of sacrificing outs for single runs is dumb, and it’s especially dumb from third and forth hitters or about how hitting to go to a specific direction takes a lot of cooperation from the pitcher or a lot of body control that maybe 1/100 hitters so players who “hit the right way” frequently does so against poor hitters or how generations of baseball stats has shown the more you have people on base the more likely you’re going to score a run regardless if you have a complete hitter, a slap hitter or a Three true outcomes guy at the plate, or about how directional hitting is much harder to control than simple self-discipline from two players with traditionally good eyes. But it will probably be all written off, so in the interest of saving time – no one is impressed by your experience in miseducation, what your college, professional and HS coaches said, or your opinions. Eat a dick and die of cancer. Or go to the DMN where you and the cesspoll there can circle jerk to your heart’s content.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
You read Moneyball. I apologize. I didn’t realize you had a library card to check that book out. I’m not trying to impress anyone with my opinions. I simply stated my opinion. If you are so immature and unable to deal with someone disagreeing with you to the point where you need to tell them to die of cancer, than I feel sorry for you and the people you deal with on a daily basis.
The bottom line is, with a man on 3rd and less than 2 outs, your goal should be to get the ball to the OF and guarantee a run scores either on a hit or a sac fly. That’s not dumb, that is baseball. Just because you read Moneyball, dick around on stats websites, and think hitting .375 with RISP through 5 games is impressive doesn’t change that fact.
Finally, I state again. If all those successful H.S., college, and professional coaches and managers are wrong, and you are right, stop wasting your time posting on here and get a job in baseball. Go prove to use how right you are. We need you to change the game!!!
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 13, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God
the worst thing about moneyball is it gave encrusted, deadset waste of space like you a generic term to target whenever the actual evidence doesn’t jive with their own flawed interpretation of baseball. No, reading a book does not qualify me to be a ML manager. No, listening to the drivel that comes out of the mouth of managers does not qualify you to be any sort of an authority either. So being that neither of us are authorities on the subject matter, let’s just go with what works – quantifiable proof. It’s perfectly awesome to try for one run, but when you’re up 4-0, and your 3rd and 4th hitters are coming up, it’s absolutely retarded to say…well they should have given up the out to do X here.
Never mind the fact that you seem to think, despite your years and years of mutual wisdom, that ball location is strictly a batter controlled result (which it largely isn’t), it’s this type of idiotic mindset that leads to stupid, frustrating baseball truisms like refusing to use your best reliever in a situation which clearly calls for it. It’s this type of idiotic mindset that leads managers to play the Neifi Perez and Willie Bloomquests of this world when they should be playing the Jack Custs of the world. What’s worse, whenever something bad happens with any team, rather than looking at the real problems ie: the team’s 3rd and 4th (and 5th-8th, and 2nd) hitter’s inability to lay off a few more pitches, idiots default to traditional truisms – like WE GOTTA MAKE PRODUCTIVE OUTS. Well fuck that, and fuck you for thinking it. It’s dumb, it contributes nothing to the conversation and it’s useless clutter. And if you insist on making these knee-jerk, idiotic posts limit yourself to the DMN or the Gameday threads, because it gets endlessly tiresome to read a revolving door of dumb posts made by generically named dumb posters.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 13, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
knee jerk is how I would describe your reaction, not mine. First, you called me idiotic. Than you called me a dillhole. Than, you followed that up with wishing cancer and death on me. That is knee jerk.
Just because you spend your days reading up on stats doesn’t make you an expert. It’s funny. I sit around and read all you guys posts about all these new stats and laugh because when it is all said and done, the same conclusions are met. C.J. Wilson is not reliable. I don’t need 3 obscure stats to tell me that. I can sit at a game and see that. He goes too deep in too many counts and he doesn’t locate well. I don’t need one of your fancy stats to see that. Plus, I didn’t say you try and hit the sac fly, I said a ball to the OF scores a run therefore you wait for a pitch you know you can hit to the OF. That would usually be a ball up in the zone that you can lift. If you get a hit great, if you don’t you still drive home the run. Now you are up 5-0, 6-0 etc. and maybe you don’t blow the game.
As for the closer deal, I think closers as 9th inning guys are really stupid so I don’t know why you brought that up in our argument. I watched New Mexico bring in their closer with 2 outs and the bases loaded in the 5th the other day against TCU and thought it was a great move. I wish Washington would do things like that sometimes.
Finally, I’m not sure how old you are, but I bet you got picked on/beat up alot as a kid. It’s the only explanation for your cyberspace tough guy demeanor and your incessant need to call people names. So, this might or might not help, but I’m sorry for all the times you got beat up as a kid. I wish there was something else I could do. My only advice, smile more, curse less, and know things will get better. Just think, pretty soon your mancrush might be a Ranger.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 13, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
www.dallasmorningnews.com
this is where you belong
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happens..
Manny couldnt drive home a run from 3rd a few days ago in the 9th…i think we can agree hes a good hitter
the pitcher knows what the hitter is trying to do and hes trying to stop him
it just isnt as easy as you want to make it
hell the tigers didnt come through either with a runner on 3rd and 1 out…they just came through on the next batter…
by Horns130 on Apr 13, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i actually wasn't too upset about today
just because we’re still 3-3, and we got TD, Strop, Eyre and Feliz and Holland who could be added to the BP before long…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
zywica for life...
by Longhorn on Apr 12, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hope Crush gets out of his slump soon
It hurts so bad seeing an amazing hitter having such a problem at bat.
I’m not saying bust his ass down to AAA or anything, but, it’s just disheartening to watch.
I’d hate to know how he feels though
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
This team needs to think about adding Pedro Martinez before the Angels do.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Depending on the contract, I almost certainly agree.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's
1 year/prorated 8 million, do you do it? Does he go into the rotation or do we use him in the pen?
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One year / $7-8 million is about right.
I would much rather use him in a bullpen capacity. Eighth inning set-up role or some such.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think
he’d do it? This is pretty much his last year, I don’t know how he’d handle being a pen arm in favor of Kris Benson.
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember at some point in the pre season him saying he'd like to go to the bullpen and Steve Phillips saying he doesn't have bullpen stuff.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Phillips
between Rick Adenhardt and “you gotta draft Heart”, I’d consider that a hearty endorsement.
What does Bullpen stuff mean anyways? Hoffman survived without a fastball, same with Duke Duscherer when he was relieving.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, maybe not necessarily to the rotation.
But that’s not holding the team back if that’s the deal, that’s Hicks spending money on one player. So I don’t care how much it costs.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better yet
with Hicks defaulting on loans, does he sign off on it?
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They wouldn't spend $5 million over 2 years...
…on Juan Cruz, and he’s actually good and filled a need.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it worth the Rangers blowing one out of every six games? I think the Rangers realize they didn't do themselves any favors by standing pat with their bullpen.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does getting Pedro solve?
He can’t stay healthy. He’s not very good anymore. He’s a big name without the big performance.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well what the fuck other options are there?
We’re not even seven games into the season and we all know this bullpen sucks.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most savvy fans
knew this bullpen was going to suck before the season’s first pitch. There just isn’t much talent out there.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Apr 12, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if it wasn't obvious
by the start of ST, it sure as hell was obvious at the end of it.
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone want to do Salty for Bowden and Bard now?
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Bowden is a pretty bad profile for success at TBiA and Bard is the exact same fucking thing as almost every other reliever we have – great stuff, iffy control.
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you have to say is 'prospects' and people will get excited.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit
there are certain prospects that excite people – high K rates, high GB rates, left handedness. Bowden’s K rates are great (usually, though they dovetailed a bit at AAA and the majors – SSS warning applies), but his statistical profile is not what you’d want for a TBiA starter.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah yeah give me a break
a bad weekend series and a horrible series of GDT drama. ugh
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think any of our relievers have great stuff
except maybe FX2.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on Apr 13, 2009 5:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ has before. but haven't seen it this year
When he’s 94-96, he has great stuff. When he’s 91-93, not so much.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Apr 13, 2009 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Signing Pedro
does not surrender that draft pick, maybe that’d make a difference?
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
i like my chances with 2nd round picks with JD drafting…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
zywica for life...
by Longhorn on Apr 12, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's wishful thinking.
That’s all.
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dear CJ
gay fu manchu photo, gay matching blue glove or red glove or whatever…basically thanks for ruining thousands of people’s easter sunday…I hate this guy so much…How long do we have to watch this dog and pony show? I guess if there wasn’t all this glove matching, fu manchu crap going on, it wouldn’t burn me up like it does…but he tries to draw all this attention to himself, and he continues to ooze spareness…it just doesn’t work that way…
by kmoneytime on Apr 12, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the game
ruined your Easter Sunday, you need to reassess your life. Priorities.
They’re the Rangers. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO!!!!!
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Apr 12, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
sorry i care about the rangers and guys that “talked” their way into a closers role or 8th inning guy
by kmoneytime on Apr 12, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine.
I’m not a CJ Wilson fan either. For a guy who oozes confidence off the mound, he sure as hell doesn’t pitch with much of it. Makes me mad too. You can’t let it ruin your day though. It’s damn well not worth it, especially in April.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Apr 12, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda OT
but did anyone get some sort of velocity reading from Beavan in his High A outing?
If he gets to the 94-96 range, look out.
by laxtonto on Apr 12, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The stadium gun was broken
because Modesto sucks at life.
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is really disappointing
I was hoping for at least a first hand from the stands view about his FB… Was he missing bats with it, fooling people? I saw the 6 K’s but am more interested in how he got them.
If he can get his velocity back, along with Main being Main, Kiker’s nice start in AA and the embarrassment of riches that is the Hickory rotation it is going to get to the point that the pitching is going to surpass our bats…
Got to love it
by laxtonto on Apr 12, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slider/Change
His fastball velo isn’t a huge problem. He was 92-96 in HS and he was 86-90 last season. A heavy fastball in the 88-92 range with plus command is more than enough if his comps step up.
The development of the change and slider will determine Beavan’s ceiling. Throwing in the low 90s with plus command and clean mechanics is better than a mid 90s heater with spotty command and some effort. HS slinger vs professional pitcher.
Don’t stress the velo. Stress the secondary development.
by jparks77 on Apr 12, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing is
he’s never had spotty command…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
zywica for life...
by Longhorn on Apr 12, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are confusing control with command.
Throwing strikes is different than throwing quality strikes. In HS, Beavan didn’t have the same command of his FB that he does now with his refined mechanics. He was more of a thrower in HS that could get away with mistakes thanks to his impressive velo against inferior competition.
In HS, Beavan could throw strikes, but he couldn’t put the ball where he wanted. One of the first things Adair focused on was to clean up Beavan’s mechanics and to turn his good control into good command. Big difference between throwing strikes in HS and throwing quality strikes as a professional.
by jparks77 on Apr 12, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Any thoughts on who in the minors would be the best bet to possibly come in and provide some quality relief innings in the next 6-8 weeks?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 12, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
Thomas Diamond could be an option. Moscoso could be up by the summer.
by jparks77 on Apr 12, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Moscoso
I hope both of those guys can come up and pitch quality innings. I’m thinking there are going to be some moves by the end of April if this continues with our current bullpen. If our pitching staff can hold out longer, perhaps with the additions of Eyre or Nippert, then in another month, Moscoso and Diamond might be able to contribute.
Does having Eyre and Nippert in this bullpen really improve things though?
"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."
by NothinG on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly
Bannister and Strop are in the queue as well.
by jparks77 on Apr 12, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strop's BB issues worry me
I don’t know much about Bannister. Is Bannister really going to contribute in a positive way. His numbers don’t really impress me.
"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."
by NothinG on Apr 12, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every one of those guys
have BB issues, except Moscoso. Hell, if you’re a reliever in the minors chances are – 1) You were drafted as one 2) You got hurt a few times or 3) You have obvious warts, most likely control.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever happened to J. Brent Cox?
I know he had the first two on the list. Is he still Yank property?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 12, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i'm not confusing control with command.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
zywica for life...
by Longhorn on Apr 12, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I heard on the broadcast
he was blowing fastballs by hitters during the first time through, but really using the offspeed/breaking stuff later in the game. I don’t know what it tells you, though, since that Modesto lineup is pretty mediocre.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I emailed the Modesto announcer to see if he heard after the game.
No joy. He didn’t hear any pitching reports.
by shroomer on Apr 12, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing about getting older...
…is the testosterone level drops, which lowers ones competitive nature. Five years ago, I would have had a coronary over a loss like this.
by T Coleman on Apr 12, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Emotions
I don’t see how anyone can NOT be moved by that game. If you love the Rangers, that was a heart-breaker. It sorta revealed what many have fretted over (our pitching, especially the pen, sucks). It does not seem to be a one-off.
Adam, I like your honesty and reflection. Baseball really can mimic life. Life is long. Lots
Wow. I agree with your feelings, Adam.
I keep coming back to the Rangers because I love baseball. I don’t love Hicks, or even our logo, the Tiger uniforms are cool. But, this is my team. Right or wrong. This is my destiny. I can’t change it with any level of sincerity. The pain this team inflicts on me is offset by the larger daily story. It test my ability to be hopeful instead of cynical. I enjoy the lessons and metaphors in baseball. It’s easy to be a Yankees fan, etc, so be it. Winning in life is not everything anyway. Doing good work, trying your best with the talent you have is very noble. We will get there. (Gulp). I hope.
Yes, perhaps I’m getting old and sappy.
by 3Bagger on Apr 12, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Usually I'm just upset after a loss.
You know. Oh well. We’ll get back tomorrow.
Today, though, I was utterly PISSED OFF.
I wanted to throw my TV out the window and swear my allegiance to the Cubbies.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust
Me too. I’m just trying to stay “big picture” enough to kill my pain. My internal chatter was all-time negative, in the “Why Bother” mode.
This game was jacking with my TRUST. If you can’t trust a brilliant Millwood performance, 4 run lead, 6 outs to go? That is sorta scary. I’ll wait until the last out next time. But this time? I was so foolish, at one moment, I thought, what a shame, we just blew a rare opportunity for a Ranger shut-out. Boy was that wishful thinking and dead wrong!
by 3Bagger on Apr 12, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Board Game is hurt.
Running the bases. Left the game.
You know how sometimes something is so predictable that it goes 180 and is actually shocking because of how absurdly expected it is?
by philkid3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
30 million dollars
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It actually took me about two minutes too long
to figure out who you were talking about.
That’s funny as piss though.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6-0 homestand will cure what ails us.
the red is coming back.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 12, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I still say the red goes on the next roadtrip
after this disaster of a series. .
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 12, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we go 6-0 with the red
or actually 9-0 all together then they better not ever take those dang jerseys off.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Apr 12, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just need to initiate the zero tolerence pitching policy
Can we get Jimmy Johnson to consult for our bullpen?
Walk a guy, DFA.
Give up a run DFA.
Give up the lead in a game in which your starter just pitched 7 shutout innings, death.
If these assclowns can’t get the job done, im not saying we have anybody else who can, but we sure as hell can let someone else try. instead of running out guitar queero and jabba the huts stunt double.
by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 12, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Good CJ/Bad CJ
The guy just needs to figure some stuff out in his own head.
It’s just scary having a guy as volatile as him in the bullpen.
I love him when he’s good; he’s the biggest piece of shit when he’s bad.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"in his own head"....
my ass. Between the ears is where he is f’d up. He is so into the whole “look” and “image” thing he has forgotten that his JOB is to get hitters out. Someone needs to dropkick his ass so his head will pop out of it.
"Who died and made you King?"
by randyd on Apr 12, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
Where does Uehara stand in the Orioles’ lineup? I want to know who our #2 is going against tomorrow.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For those of us who couldn't watch today
Was Wilson terrible, unlucky, or both?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 12, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A little bit of both, actually.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the most hilarious thing I've seen/heard/read all day.
Unfortunately, it’s completely accurate….
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who? Me?!
Thank you in advance. :-D
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can start a new phrase that only the cool kids use
“Did you see Zambrano last night?? Damn he was so Ranger, he gave up 5 runs in the 1st”
by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 12, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC went Ranger in his Opener
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tiger didn't go crazy today. He went Ranger
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's it. We've done it. It's a "thing" now.
Anything that should be awesome but ended up sucking is now “ranger.”
Like, the pizza I had the other night was ranger.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is wrong
“should have been awesome but ended up sucking”
That certainly doesn’t describe our pitching.
“should have expected it to suck, but it ended up sucking at levels I never imagined”
That is being Ranger.
by JBImaknee on Apr 12, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Kinda like Jimmy Fallon’s show went ‘Ranger’. We knew it, but damn.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 12, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't even seen that show
is it as bad as many people expected it to be?
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only made it one night.
I guess I’ll give him another try in the future to see if it improves. Let’s just say Timberlake saved him, he was actually kinda funny.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 12, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rang⋅er /ˈreɪndʒər / pronunciation [reyn-jer]
–noun
1. one of a body of armed guards who patrol a region.
2. (initial capital letter) a U.S. soldier in World War II specially trained for making surprise raids and attacks in small groups. Compare commando (def. 1).
-adjective
3. to continually underperform to expectations
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE IT!
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it could be like the ubiquitous 'F' word-
usage in every form: noun, pronoun, verb, adjective, adverb, et al.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 12, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers are so Rangerly Ranger, they go from Ranger to Ranger in one Ranger Ranger.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
that definitely proves the flexibility of the word
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give you the ranger finger
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
Depends on the context.
If “CJ just rangered out there.”
Then, yes, it is a verb.
If “CJ is totally ranger out there.”
That would be adjective.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is quite possibly the most retarded subthread of the year
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread is definitely getting ranger
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
End this
please. Do not encourage him anymore
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by FirebatM3 on Apr 12, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, we're done.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Warner Madrigal is Ranger!
In memory of Nick Adenhart.
by ajbrandt1 on Apr 12, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut the fuck up
Seriously.
Tired of that crap.
Been lurking for a few days, and everything you’ve posted has been just stupid driveling crap. What’s your deal with Madrigal anyways? Just your niche or something?
Just go away for a while and save us all from your attempts at humor.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You STFU
and go back to lurking.
K thx bye
by TXRangersFan on Apr 13, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1 myself
totally misread your comment!
i am placing myself in the penalty box, or i might DFA my own ass.
k thx bye
by TXRangersFan on Apr 13, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
and it’s just a minor 2 minute penalty.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 13, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
professionally?
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 13, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's alright.
Just don’t let it happen again…
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 13, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people will try to say unlucky
They are wrong. He was just bad.
If he goes out there with that quality stuff again, we will lose that game.
by JBImaknee on Apr 12, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Strike
To start the outing, he threw two balls. Then had to groove a strike, that was the HR.
Other than that, I don’t blame him much.
And Madrigal looked like someone on American Idol who’s impersonating a singer, in this case pitcher.
by 3Bagger on Apr 12, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
Madrigal was fine. How many pitchers can come into a 4-4 game, wheels falling off, bases loaded, and one out, and keep the score tied? Not many. Certainly not anyone else on our staff right now.
by JBImaknee on Apr 12, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankie is the only one with a fighting chance.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
by tyd3311 on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madrigal
Hitting .300 still means you FAIL 7 out of 10 times. So, the probability of a pitcher succeeding are not all that bad.
My problem is experience for him. He has some natural talent obviously. That big single was right down the middle.
by 3Bagger on Apr 12, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the worst I can imagine any April loss feeling
The only way that the team is going to win is if Millwood can give us outings like that. And when he does this team HAS TO WIN. If the Rangers can’t win when their starting pitcher gives them 7 shutout innings, they don’t deserve to win anything.
by JBImaknee on Apr 12, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know I am glad there is this much outrage this early.
If this team thinks they can roll the same shit out there this April, I will stop going to the games. I could really stand to save some money this year.
And I am one who would generally buy tickets just to spite the economic panic.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live far, far away
About six hours from Arlington, but I’m seriously considering making it down for the afternoon game on the 30th.
They better not go Ranger on me.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol - good luck
but they did play better at home. and Detroit has turned into the worst place for the Rangers to play.
The Rangers should have kept to the RED unis.
"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."
by NothinG on Apr 12, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking everywhere is the worst place to play for the Rangers.
They never play well at the Metrodome, at Safeco, at Yankee Stadium… they didn’t win a game last year in Boston…
The Trop…
No where.
by oc on Apr 12, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...BPIA?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a good thing then
that we have more home games in every month but 1 (not including october)
"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."
by NothinG on Apr 12, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
How the hell did we manage that?
by Horns130 on Apr 13, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mainly because
August is 10 Home, 19 Away
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 13, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that terrible excuse for a ballpark goes into default before we have to play there again.
T
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Apr 12, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
the Rangers are one of many teams who had bullpen issues the first week. Lots of late inning, come-from-behind heroics all week long.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 12, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I managed to miss the two most demoralizing games of this series
So without seeing it, I’m not quite as ticked off by it as I could be… but I am extremely worried. This bullpen is bad, even worse than I thought it would be. I’m afraid we’re going to see a lot of good (or at least “good enough to win”) starts by the rotation ruined by the bullpen in the first half this year. Because the only way I see for the bullpen to stop sucking anytime soon is waiting for Strop, Diamond and Moscoso to be ready (and bringing them up early isn’t going to help matters).
I suppose the only really good news is that Neftali and Dutch don’t have to pitch with the scrub brigade trying to bridge the gap between them and Fx2…
by lonestarJon on Apr 12, 2009 11:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Feeling sorry for CJ
I know he’s been pilloried here, but in many ways, this wasn’t his fault.
We’ll go through it batter by batter.
1) Inge hit a 2-0 fastball that he probably should have taken (how many people get to swing away down by 4 leading off the eighth when they are up 2-0?) for a strike on the outside corner.
2) after the homer, he gets Adam Everett, not the greatest of hitters, but he gets him 0-2, wastes a fastball, and comes back with a changeup on the outside corner at the knees. Everett pulls it to left field for a single.
3) First pitch fastball that ties up Granderson so bad that he barely gets wood on it and it squibs out to short, where Elvis, trying desparately to catch it out of the air, whiffs on it completely, allowing 2 runner s on with no outs. if he plays a bit back and follows the spin (or Young had been properly backing him up) it’s definitely an out at second, if not a double play.
4) on a 2-0 count Polanco hits a chopped ball over the head of Young at third. Young is playing off the line to avoid the single, if he’s playing on the line he might get to the ball. The ball is NOT hit hard, despite the fact that the pitch wasn’t all that good. Just a chopper in a place where no one could get to it. Run scores, now its 4-2 with 2 men still on and no one out.
5) Ordonez strikes out on a 1-2 slider that broke behind him. CJ’s slider was breaking a mile and he didn’t hesitate to use it. His fastball was up, and not really fooling anyone.
6) Miguel Cabrera is intentionally walked. He’s hot, and it makes sense, as even a walk wouldn’t kill us.
7) One of the few times where gameday really captures the nature of an at bat. C.J. gets Carlos Guillen down 0-2 on sliders that are breaking down and in to his shoe tops (real Carlton like). Then he wastes a couple of fastballs which were too high to be that effective. Then back to the sliders. The first one (fifth pitch off the at bat) Guillen barely catches with his bat, hitting it foul. Now, here’s the mental problem. You’re fastball’s not been working that well, your last changeup got pummled out of the park, and you think he might know that you are going to throw a slider down and in, what do you do? Well, unfortunately he threw the slider, and it was a fabulous one, breaking down and in right on the corner of the strikezone and almost patently unhittable. Except that it was exactly where and when Guillen expected it, and it and his bat mee perfectly, nailing it over the head of Young and down into the corner for a 2 run double and the tie. That was the nail in the coffin.
Wilson got pulled, and Madrigal came in and intentionally walked a pinch hitter (Marcus Thames), then struck out laird before giving up the go-ahead runs off of Inge and then getting Everett to pop out to Andrus.
The defense managed to handle one ball in play out of seven, and 5 balls were to the right side of the infield, allowing 3 hits and the error.
The ONLY thing i could have done differently was to have Young play the line and hope he could make the plays to stop the balls that Polanco and Guillen hit. Or maybe bring in Francisco to face Guillen with t out. But 5 out saves are not what we should have to be doing..
by iblum on Apr 13, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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