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Around SBN: Celtics Seething Over Embarrassing Loss

Evan and Richard say, calm down

Evan Grant and Richard Durrett each have separate blog posts today that say, in essence, "Settle down, everyone, the world isn't coming to an end..."

Evan Grant focuses more on why firing Ron Washington and releasing C.J. Wilson isn't going to solve anything, while Richard looks at some of the positives from the first week (such as Ian Kinsler, above).

 

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by Adam J. Morris on Apr 13, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Read that on Inside Corner yesterday. Some made it sound like he was a three legged dog on the bump trying to toss the ball with his red rocket.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
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by boomer1 on Apr 13, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

it would be stupid to release CJ

he is still our 2nd best reliever.

people tend to overreact, especially after such a difficult loss as yesterdays

"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."

by NothinG on Apr 13, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still would make him a LOOGY

and I don’t care if it is an overreaction. I’ll take my chances with Jennings as the setup guy until CJ shows a little consistent dominance as a LOOGY.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is pretty much where I am on the whole situation as well

At least for a while… if he gets his guy out, then it boosts his confidence and he can work toward being a full set-up guy again. If he can’t get that guy out, the damage will be minimized and if he can’t do that job consistently, the path the organization needs to take with CJ will become more clear.

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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by WhipSmart on Apr 13, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The whole offseason

all we get to get emotional about is a mess of NRIs.

Of course folks are going to overreact at things the first week of the season, and of course they are especially going to overreact when they blow a 4 run lead in the 8th. That’s one of the things that makes baseball a talking sport.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I miss Ron Mahay

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Apr 13, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Sad news

what a great voice he had.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is a terrible week

do you have a link

"Take me out to the ball game, Take me out with the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and cracker jacks, I don't care if I never get back, Let me root, root, root for the RANGERS, If they don't win it's a shame. For it's one, two, three strikes, your out, At the old ball game."

by NothinG on Apr 13, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I heard it on the Astros broadcast while I was out for lunch. Kalas Broadcasted Astros games in the ’60s.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy crap

Can’t believe that… what a horrible few days for baseball…

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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by WhipSmart on Apr 13, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

3-3

is where I had projected them to be after 6 games anyhow. Pitchers go through slumps just the same as hitters. Is anyone wanting Davis to be released?

A big homestand for the Rangers. They need to win 4 of the 6 before heading to Toronto.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 13, 2009 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

the difference is that

Wilson has had some success this year, whereas Davis has had none. But seriously, it is way too early to evaluate anyone to the point of deciding to release him. And as little faith as I have in Wash, I still think it is too early to decide whether he should be around all year. With the exception of a guy like Madrigal, who only made the team because of the injuries to Nip and Eyre and who could truly benefit from more time in AAA ball, I think everyone should have until the end of the month before they are released or reassigned.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 13, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Firing Washington

I never put much stock into those people here who called for Washington to be fired. I thought more time was needed, and I always liked the guy (not really sure why). Still, I see no problem with how the Rangers constructed their bullpen. It may not be the greatest, but good bullpen management should be able to get holds until the ninth.

With the Rangers supposedly competing for the playoffs next season, I have to wonder when Washington needs to have learned from his mistakes. More importantly, will he learn from his mistakes? Does management feel he is making mistakes?

by Excel Hearts Choi on Apr 13, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Fair point

If you had told most of us a week ago that the team would be 3-3, the offense would be good, the starting pitching would be ok, and the bullpen would be bad, nobody would have been surprised. In fact, that’s what most of us were expecting.

It’s only how it’s happened that’s surprising.

by Sherman McCoy on Apr 13, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Fire Washington, Fire Daniels

DFA Wilson and Madrigal, force Hicks to sell the team, demolish the ballpark, salt the earth, build an ark.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 13, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

yes, please.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 13, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohh great prophet tball... Ive already built an ark...

I am just not sure how that helps the baseball team right now?

So the Rangers go in pairs…

2 Aging vet starting pitchers….
2 young 1B
2 Catchers
2 DH’s
2 former closers
2 Venezuelan amazing defending SS
2 beasticons
2 retread older SP
2 left feilders
2…..

Maybe that was the Rangers plan all along…

by laxtonto on Apr 13, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Washington

daily builds a tower of babble.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 13, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

so which of

MaxRam, Tea, and Salty do you leave behind?

by JBImaknee on Apr 13, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

None....

just add him under “DH” with Blalock

by laxtonto on Apr 13, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've already used all my Salt

on Frank Catalanotto’s yard.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 13, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you say so,

I’ll hold off on the ark for now. But I’m not putting away my sackcloth.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 14, 2009 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

you had me until....

demolishing the park. i’m guessing i would need to pay for new seat options. f that.

i tried to do the math on some cowboy options today. anywhere between the goal lines will cost min 16,000 per seat +3400 per year.

assuming no time value of money, no interest on the 80% payment spread over 30 years (it’s 8%) and no increase in ticket prices, you seat costs $400 per game. factor those things in, and it will be $500 – $600 or more per game… per seat.

by sam in so cal on Apr 13, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

you sure the world isnt ending?

clouds are hanging awfully low today

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by studcrackers on Apr 13, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, I'm sure the world isn't ending!

Because if I’m wrong, it’s not like you’d have a chance to come back with an “I told you so” post.

by mgb5 on Apr 13, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Settle down?

I will NOT f’n settle down. Histrionics for everyone!

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 13, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Can I get a side of kneejerky with that??

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Apr 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's like Airplane and the slapping of the hysterical passenger

Rumack: Elaine, you’re a member of this crew. Can you face some unpleasant facts?
Elaine Dickinson: No.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 13, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

I obviously watched the game yesterday and was probably as pissed as anyone else here. I wasn’t around LSB though with the holiday (because many of you here know how religious I am) and I can’t bring myself to read the GDT or some of the other stuff about the game though.

I can’t even imagine what was said, but I’m sure gonna try:

1) Fire Wash he sucks and can’t manage.
2) DFA Ceej, he sucks and can’t pitch.
3) MY still sucks at 3rd base.
4) Andrus isn’t ready for The Show still.
5) Send CD down to AAA and call up Smoak already.
6) The Rangers offense sucks, only 5 hits? WTF?

Did I miss anything?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 13, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Surely there was some potty humor...

just guessing…

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Apr 13, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good to see the Tigers have given up 10 runs through 7 IP today....

Maybe they aren’t that good after all…

I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.

by RA Dickey on Apr 13, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Momentum is only as good as your next days starting pitcher.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 13, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

All this talk of calming down is unnecessary.

This wasn’t a loss to get up in arms about, this was a soul-crushing loss. Like the 15-16 loss to Boston last year. I’m not upset, i’m depressed. Only people with hope bother to get up in arms.

by jcAustin on Apr 13, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Is Mendoza starting in Triple A>?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 13, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

x

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 13, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

The way I see it...

The way I see it is that your casual fan was too optomistic after a solid 3 game series against the Indians (well the first game was pretty solid anyway). And now your casual fan is way too pessimistic after a terrible 3 game series against the Tigers. I’d say a happy medium between the two extremes is where we need to be after 6 games of varying success or failure for this team.

by macromorgan on Apr 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Evan Grant sucks, he is nothing but a Ranger mouthpiece. Wash should be fired.

by Big Tex on Apr 13, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Look on the bright side

at least we’re not the Nationals. 0-7 to start the year

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 13, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

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