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by Adam J. Morris on Apr 16, 2009 9:12 AM CDT
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That's much better. Particularly the day before an off day. It would not be good to go into an off-day on a 6 game losing streak.
Jeff Wilson says that Ian Kinsler knew he needed a triple to hit for the cycle, when he drove the ball to centerfield in the 6th inning. Wilson also runs down some team records set or tied by Kinsler yesterday, and Evan Grant also runs down some notes about Kinsler's terrific night.
Grant also says that the intentional walk Andruw Jones received that set up Nelson Cruz's fourth inning grand slam is significant, in that it shows that other teams fear and respect Jones, and suggests that David Murphy could end up losing playing time to Jones. We shall see. Sideshow also had a hot first month of the season in 2007.
Anthony Andro has some quotes from Ron Washington on Murphy, saying he still believes in Murphy and will continue to get him as much time as he gets Marlon Byrd. Again, we shall see.
Jeff Miller has a piece up on Kris Benson's night, and how he battled back from a rough early go to give the Rangers 6 innings, when it initially appeared the Rangers would be burning through their pen again. It is Benson's first win since the 2006 season.
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solid appearance by benson
and until jones inevitably slows down….i would play him everyday. he looks significantly better with the bat than both blalock and murphy. at this point i think our optimal lineup would look something like this
kinsler
young
hamilton
jones (since wash will bat him there anyways)
cruz
davis
byrd
salty or tea
andrus
you could flip byrd or davis if you want i was just splitting up the righties but these are def our 9 best players at the moment
by dustinvandeman on Apr 16, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You have to enjoy the quality of AB Andruw has given so far
I mean the one bad pitch he has swung at all year was a check swing, and he was visibly angry afterwards.
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also
has said the right things in the press so far.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also
busted his ass in ST, and has done everything the club has asked him to. And I really like his attitude, and the fact that he knows he will not play every day, and seems very accepting of that fact.
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by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only thing I don't like is this laziness it looked like he had in CF
but I think the guy is just slow. unfortunate – would have been better if he could actually play a good OF
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Him being slow
is so sad when speed used to be a plus part of his game.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
maybe once you get off the roids, everything comes back but the speed
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he just needs to get off the twinkies and ranch dressing.
by FuturePants on Apr 16, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmm
twinkies and Ranch dressing…
When’s lunch??
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by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 16, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And despite the lack of play
he is absolutely destroying the ball.
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by Parman on Apr 16, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Jones isn’t just cheating on fastballs
the legitimate gripe about the jones situation is that jones has no future with this club. but other than that, I don’t see how you could be disappointed that right now, he’s taking AB’s away from Murphy and Blalock.
Easy solution – eff Blalock
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
first of all
I’m pretty sure he is happily married.
He also has a much better chance of bringing something back in a trade or at least being worth a draft pick.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's too good a hitter when healthy to just ride the pine.
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't say that about jones?
but maybe you’re saying the choice shouldnt’ be between jones and blalock but jones and murphy.
I honestly don’t know what to make of blalock. his approach is wretched but over the course of the season (or the number of games he ends up playing) he ends up above average.
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's streaky
But when he gets in a groove, he’s capable of putting a 20 game hitting streak together. I’ll hold off another month, but if Davis continues to struggle, I almost wouldn’t mind him seeing at Triple A again, with Blalock at 1st and Jones DH’ing.
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOO BOOO BOOOO
what the F is that shit? NO
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you like him to go to Japan, instead?
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by mtex on Apr 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
I can’t believe I’m saying it. ONLY IF Davis is really struggling come June 1st.
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if it's too late then
and his confidence is completely shot?
by BuckyB on Apr 16, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why woudl you play Blalock over Davis?
to what end? We aren’t winning the division. Blalock is good but he’s not the future. Nobody else in the OF is the future. Davis can quite possible be the future – either at 1B or DH. We need to know this now
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
people are delusional
I don’t understand why everyone wants to rebuild but never wants to actually play the younger players.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They want to play the younger players
But only so long as they don’t actually struggle.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 16, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Jones
taking ABs away from Blalock hurt any of our younger players?
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jones taking away ABs from Blalock or Davis?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well he should onyl be taking AB's from Blalock
and I gotta think that management seems pretty committed to Davis (as per press releases)
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that I doubt Wash does this regularly
And benching Davis yesterday doesn’t make me too confident that Wash won’t do just this.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all about letting the young player struggle
as long as progress is being made.
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is that a legitimate gripe?
Murphy, Byrd, Boggs, or Blalock really have such a bright future here?
by brettgardner on Apr 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
boggs?
and murphy might. if you want murphy to be a 4th OF, you’d probably want to get him more AB’s than he will get now that Jones has inserted himself into the equation.
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
you ever really have to get your 4th OF ABs. I think they come fairly naturally.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
if muprhy is now the last guy on the bench (same as Cat last year), then he’s not getting enough AB’s to really develop into anything
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what?
his 4th OF status comes from defense more than offense. His minor league record pretty much tells you he is what he is. Weak stick, decent glove.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Major League record begs to differ with your assessment
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, if you are ok with that assessment then no harm
but i would have liked to give him a few more AB’s to see if he coudl develop into something a little better. i mean, if jones wasn’t here, I’d have no problem doing it for a few months
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not particularly interested
in using Major leage game appearances for development of bench players.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really see why.
250-300 ABs should be sufficient.
by brettgardner on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't understand
how Blalock is a bigger part of our future than Jones. I’ve heard that a ton, and Blalock looks to be here through this year, and thats about it, much like Jones.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's not forget
Blalock is probably not here right now if the economy doesn’t tank and 6 million goes from looking like a bargain to looking like an albatross.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is really because Hank is home grown.
And we get attached to home grown players.
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by LBBRangerFan on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
many on here
were ready to ship him to SF for Sanchez a couple of months ago, now we act put out because he might lose a few at bats. His neck is probably sore from the torque he puts on it trying to yank everything out to right.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
People were ready to ship him out for Sanchez a couple of months ago because Sanchez is a pretty good pitching prospect. Blalock was never going to bring him back without someone else being added to Blalock.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 16, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
he is a good prospect. But I read a couple of places that the Giants didn’t even get to the prospect part of the discussion because they thought 6 million in this economy was way too much. It was somewhere on MLB Trade Rumors
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if both are doing well
Jones has far more trade value than Blalock, since Jones makes about what I do
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
less than half a season of a 6 million contract
isn’t going to prevent teams from wanting him in a trade
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it might not
but in the spring I remember reading of a few teams who were interested but in this economic climate though 6 million was way too much. The Giants and Twins come to mind.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem wasn't the money
The problem was the Rangers wanting too much for Blalock and the Giants/Twins not being that desperate in the offseason.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
borbon later in the year is who you might be worried about. CF defense could use a big upgrade
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
Well if Jones is still pushing a 2.000 OPS in August and the Rangers are winning, I’ll live with the subpar defense and let Borbon play once a week.
by brettgardner on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Jones was awful the last 2 years..
but it has to be a little encouraging that he is 6 years younger than Sammy when he was here. I have some hope that he can be better than Sosa.
by Houston27 on Apr 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi
was awful for like a year and a half after getting off roids.
I wonder if Andruw will have a bounce back like he did.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting point
it must take some serious adjustment time to go from feeling like Superman everyday to feeling like a normal human.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard
that your body kind of “forgets” how to make testorone after you have been playing hormone roulette for years. I don’t know how true that is though.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
similar to
the women’s body that forgets how to get pregnant after years of birth control…or maybe that’s a stretch. I’m a social studies teacher, not good at science.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that happened with caminiti
in an exaggerated state where his testicles receded.
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone remember
the interview with Canseco’s ex-wife where she said the male member is a muscle so he had this huge member with abosuletly no testicles. It still gives me nightmares.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because i really wanted to know that
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to share
my burden
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 16, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is very true, depending on what you take.
Many steriods inhibition of testicular secretion of testosterone.
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by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it wasn't easy when I did a short cycle years ago..
but the change is so dramatic and so quick that you realize you wouldn’t want to put your body through something like that for an extended period of time although a lot of people do. Not to mention the shriveled balls and skin problems.
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have bacne anyway
(maybe it’s from swimming regularly?) so I guess the swimming problems wouldn’t be that big a deal.
but seriously, bacne blows
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
take accutane, it works wonders
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weak sauce.
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by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that you're just instigating, but
don’t you feel a little ridiculous equating a 39 year old, ex-roider with a 31 yr old, 10 time gold glove, ex-roider? Their ceilings are dramatically different, making the Jones signing less risky and potentially significantly more rewarding.
by BuckyB on Apr 16, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was at the game last night.
And honestly, Kinsler’s cycle-clinching triple was one of the top three sports events I’ve ever seen in person.
I had just turned to my dad and said, “Alright, there’s only two places to hit a triple in this park: roll the ball to deep left center, or smack it right off the bullpen in right center.”
Sure enough, next pitch, he smokes it to right center. The entire time it was flying, I was saying, “Just stay in the yard, just stay in the yard.”
As you know, it did, and all 14,000 or so of us went nuts. That was a true thrill.
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by ghtd36 on Apr 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
weird,
I was about to post the EXACT same thing. Just replace “dad” with “friend”.
It was definitely the top sports event I’ve ever seen in person.
by TXRangersFan on Apr 16, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep I was there too
it was a great moment.
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by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I was there for Teixeira’s cycle, and his last hit needed was a single. I believe he could have stretched the line drive into a double easy, but he pulled up at first.
by FuturePants on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason why Gonzo is better than Teixeira
Gonzo’s almost cycle = Hr, 3b, and 2 2bs <—- BAD ASS
by BuckyB on Apr 16, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if we'll get the same "The sky is falling and heads need to roll NOW" today.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the knee jerking goes the other way today
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, today, we are the greatest team ever
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
playoffs?!
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by Maximilian on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this gave me a much needed laugh
thank you
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by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know AJ is a reclamation project...
… but why all the hate and negativity towards him? If it is because you want a younger person in the lineup, I get it but who? Marlon Byrd isonly 4 months younger than AJ. Hank is about 2 years younger, but his injury history suggests his “baseball age” is probably older than 28. Murphy is 27 so still younger, but so far AJ’s production is better.
I could understand if AJ was blocking bourbon or beltre or someone of that caliber but those guys aren’t ready yet… So why all the hate? Am I missing something?
by Har on Apr 16, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I could understand it more if I understand who we were worried about him taking ABs away from.
However, I could care less if they go to Blalock or Jones. Blalock having games off probably keeps him from getting injured.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who got the day off yesterday to put Jones in the lineup?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis
got his first day off of the year. Do you think thats a problem?
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a fan of it when he is coming out of his slump.
And he doesn’t need a day off in the second week of the season. But I forgot, Wash would NEVER bench Davis to get Blalock and Jones in the lineup at the same time.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could care less
if a starter is getting benched once or twice a week.
If Jones gets every DH start against lefties, and another start once or twice a week at CDs or Byrds, or Murphy’s or even Cruz’s expense, I could care less.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, well I do care
I think seeing Davis benched once a week (or heaven forbid, twice a week) and losing 100 ABs sucks a big bag of penises. Why the hell would you bench your 23 year old 1B to play 2 guys who won’t be here next year. For the small chance that we’ll win more games with that extra bit of offense?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or the bigger chance
you can get a return in midseason trade.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty big gamble
I’d rather a rebuilding team concentrate on…REBUILDING. You play the trade game with stop gap players or excess players like Laird from last season.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing every day
the only Rangers who should be in the lineup every day are Kinsler and Hamilton. And Young because he’s the only 3b and the FOTF…
Everyone else can play 5 of 6 games a week. There are enough games for everyone to get their ABs
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's stupid
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No,
it really isn’t.
Insisting everyone has to play every game or they won’t develop is the thing thats stupid.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
lets have Cruz and Davis lose 100+ ABs this season so that we can have fun with Jones.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Developmentally
I don’t think there is any difference between getting 600 ABs and 700 ABs.
Taking the occasional off day probably allows players to stay healthier through the season, and lowers the chance of big injuries.
If the team is contending this year, I want the best players on the field as much as possible. I don’t care if it means sitting Davis every once in a while if the matchup isn’t good.
If the team is not contending, then getting playing time for all your guys is a good idea through July, so that trade value can be maximized as well as keep guys healthy.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
100 ABs is 100 ABs
That’s pretty significant. On top of that, Young, Hamilton, and Kinsler are the only ones getting close to 700 ABs if they are playing everyday. Even then, I bet they finish the season with around 630 ABs/700 PAs. Davis, hitting at the bottom of the lineup with Wash, isn’t going to get 600 ABs if he is playing every day. So you’re really talking about Davis getting 550 ABs vs. him getting 450 ABs.
And I don’t care about keeping Davis healthy. The chances of him getting hurt at this point in his career while playing 1B is so low that being benched once a week won’t change anything.
And this is a rebuilding team. Playing for this year is what past Rangers teams have done. It has worked out beautifully so far.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
davis isn't getting 600AB's if he is playing every day?
are you serious?
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at last year's lineup
The 7 hole hitter got 606 ABs over 162 games. The 6 hole hitter got 620 ABs over 162 games. Unless Davis is moved up in the lineup, I don’t see him getting 600 ABs even playing everyday.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
well it’s weird to look AB’s and not plate appearances.
but the 9 hitter easily clears 600 PA’s. if you want him to get more AB’s, tell davis not to walk
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ABs/PAs
Whatever you want to use, 100 of them is a major thing.
And if you want to use PAs instead of ABs, don’t talk about davis not getting 600 ABs.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
you’re not post rational or anything. you’ve seriously gone mental here
you are arguing between most likely 650 PA and 570 PA’s, on the presumption that Davis getting benched for the first time this season (in the midst of a bad streak) means that he’s going to get benched once every week – even though Jones is most likely going to take AB’s away from Blalock – you know, the other LH DH.
You’re effing nuts, pal.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm giggling.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then stop talking
the original post I replied to talked about benching guys like Davis and Cruz once a week. I said that’s stupid and it is. There is no reason Davis and Cruz shouldn’t be in the lineup every day. They aren’t catchers. They don’t need built in time on the bench to remain “fresh”. They are the future of this lineup with Kinsler and Hamilton and should play just as much as them. Jones and even Blalock should never get in the way of that.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By ABs, I mean PAs
And Wash wouldn’t pinch hit Pujols for Adam Everett
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in defense of Wash, Adam Everett
is a professional hitter. He know what he want to do out there and he just go out there and do it.
by bhudson on Apr 16, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally...
…I’d rather see Chris Davis play in 150-155 games than 135, but that’s just me. Ditto Nelson Cruz.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a really heavy workload for anybody
but 20 games over the course of a season? 3 games a month? that’s really going to make an appreciable difference?
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think its a big impairment
to their development if they get say 600 PAs instead of 700PAs?
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think it's a big impairment
to their development if they get 200 PAs instead of 100 PAs?
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get this
Of course there is a huge difference between 100PA and 200PAs. And that difference is far less than the difference between 600PAs and 700PAs.
I don’t even understand why this is an issue
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he meant losing 200 instead of 100
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh...
I messed up that last sentence.
The difference between 100PAs and 200PAs is far bigger than the difference between 600PAs and 700PAs.
No one looks at a kid with 600PAs in a season and says “shame he didn’t get that extra 100 PAs, things would have worked out for him then.” (unless its Jason Botts…)
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As expected, then the question is
How does it translate? If you get 100 PAs instead of 200 PAs, is it like getting 600 PAs instead of 1200 PAs?
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not linear
But the marginal value of an additional PA is a diminishing function. 1 PA is infinitely better than 0 PAs, 2 PAs is better than 1, but not infinitely so. 3 is better than 2, but not as much as 2 is better than 1…
Anyway, the point is, adding 100 PAs to a 600 PA guy is probably like adding 40 to a 300 PA guy, or 10 to a 100 PA guy. At least that is what I would hypothesize
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it is a diminishing return
But the point is figure out how big this return is and weigh against the returns of the alternative. 110 PAs is better than 100 PAs, so if you can get them the extra 10 PAs at a minimal opportunity cost, then you should give them the 10 PAs.
On the other hand, if you give them the 10 PAs, you lose 100 PAs for someone like Andruw Jones. The question is then which is more helpful to the team – 100 PAs for Andruw Jones or 10 extra PAs of development to your young player (as if he only has 100 PAs).
It’s a bit confusing… hopefully it makes some sense
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming
most of Jones’ PAs come from non-essential areas.
LH half of DH platoon.
Injury Replacement.
Days off for players.
Late inning PH (although RW seems to want to dash that hope).
When all is said and done, I imagine he will get 300-400 PAs or he’ll be traded.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really isn't that hard to get 300PAs
and it isn’t that radical for guys to sacrifice 50-100PAs to other players on the roster as part of platoons, days off, and injuries.
There is a reason only 2 or 3 players a year play every game. It really isn’t necessary.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the heat of Arlington
I can’t imagine its a good thing to go 162.
If I know a fielding metric I believed in, I’d like to see the fielding numbers on a month by month basis. I have to believe that playing every day catches up to you by August.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
$
Right, but I am only taking about PAs that he would get from deliberately sitting someone else in order to play him, not PAs that he would normally get from injuries, DH duty, and days off
He will probably get a couple hundred at bats from those things alone.
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At some point
it comes down to determining what your goals for the season are.
If you listen to the yahoos on here who want to fire JD unless the team wins the division, then you don’t weight development at all and you simply play your best player every day.
If you are of the 5 year plan opinion, then you play the kids and just play Jones (and Blalock, for that matter) enough to get to the critical # for trade value.
Somewhere in the middle, you weight accordingly. Early in a season where you don’t know if you can win or lose, then playing your best players with a bias towards younger guys makes sense. Which is what they are doing right now. And I’m fine with that
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the balance
There is an optimal level at which all your developing guys play based on these values.
The problem is that development isn’t the only factor to optimize. Trade value probably scales sigmoidally – there is a critical number of PAs guys like Blalock and Jones need to get for anyone to be interested in them (say 250PAs by July 31). So you need to make sure they get to that.
You also have team performance as the balancing cost to your development returns. +100PAs for the kid (Murphy) may come at the expense of losing 100PAs for the better old guy (Byrd). That’s probably a linear cost.
Since the benefits with different players have different marginal values, optimization isn’t easy. But it certainly isn’t as trivial as simply maximizing development time.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
That’s the net effect of the 100 PAs that Andruw would get, it contains all sorts of things from team performance to trade values, but if you want to make a decision based on this, you have to put values on each of those things.
For example, if you don’t care how the team performs this year, only in 2010, then any value of those extra Andruw 100 PAs would only have meaning if it translated to trade value, and the whatever value he generated toward team success this year would be meaningless. However, if you do want the team to compete, and say, you value the success of the team in 2009 and 2010 equally, then you also get additional value from the performance this year.
However, PAs given to Andruw/Blalock are not one-way things. If they perform well, the value of these PAs increase, but if they do poorly, then you can actually get negative values from them. If you give PAs for development, it can only be positive.
I think the people who complain about the possibility of taking 100 PAs away from a player like Davis or Cruz feel that that 100 PA to Andruw would have a smaller probability of generating higher value than what you get can from just giving the PAs to the “kids”. If Andruw can’t perform, then you’d do better giving those PAs to Davis and Cruz, if Andruw will perform, how well does he have to do in order to justify his extra PAs? That’s the essence of the argument here.
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, your new comment popped up while I was typing this
so don’t mind it if it seems like I am just repeating some of the stuff that you are saying
by Telegraph on Apr 16, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're on the same page
It’s all about what you are optimizing, and then optimizing your optimization function.
Cahill’s point about diminishing productivity is an important piece to the equation as well. It may be that going from 140 games to 160 games is actually sub-optimal, since those 20 games will wear you down, especially in Arlington in August.
That is the whole reason teams use 5 man rotations instead of 4 man, even though its pretty obvious that every game a 5th starter pitches instead of the #1 or #2 is a big net loss.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it all depends on the player
If you’re Elvis Andrus, each additional PA has a huge value, compared to the career. If Omar Vizquel, it really doesn’t matter – he’s not learning anymore.
So to some extent, the anti-Jones people have a point – the marginal developmental value for an AB for Davis or Cruz is far greater than the same value for Jones (though Jones may be “re-learning” how to hit, so his scale may be off).
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, as long as Jones is producing, I'm fine with him platooning with Blalock.
At this point what I think is more troublesome is Blalock taking time from Davis. Not enough time to really call it a problem yet, but I’m more interested in giving Davis PAs than putting out a veteran who I’m not even sure is better.
by philkid3 on Apr 16, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because certain people are still mad that Sosa took ABs away
from Jason “I can’t even hit Japanese pitching” Botts
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only speak for myself...
…but I’m a big Boggs fan. I think he is the perfect fourth outfielder and someone who can help off the bench in the future, and it’s frustrating to see him in AAA when he could be settling into a platoon/bench role in the majors.
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by ghtd36 on Apr 16, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you think he would have come even close
to putting up jones’s numbers so far?
by BuckyB on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
it pays to take ML ABs away to develop a 4th OF. We’ve done pretty well in picking up 4th OFs off the scrap heap, with Dellucci, GMJ, Byrd, etc.
He can sit down there til we need him as far as I’m concerned. He doesn’t look like he’ll ever be a threat to be a good starting OF.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't know what he'll be
Its hilarious that you’re telling me I have no idea what the trade market will be like in July but you are so ready to ignore Murphy’s non 4th OF ML numbers to declare him a 4th OF and have him on the bench everyday.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's a much better indication that he'll be a 4th OFer
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are talking about
Boggs as being a 4th OF. Try to keep up.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
I can’t guarantee he’ll be a good outfielder, but I definitely think he’s a threat to be. In his sample in the Majors last year, he showed fantastic contact quality on balls in play and was just a victim of very bad luck. He also showed tremendous defensive ability and I’d trust him at every position with that.
Could be a small sample size fluke, but it’s enough evidence to think there’s a chance.
by philkid3 on Apr 16, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you.
But David Murphy is the person I start glaring at.
by philkid3 on Apr 16, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think
Brandon Boggs got the shaft to make room for AJ
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by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 16, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
If AJ was released in Spring Training, Cat would have been on the bench, and Brandon Boggs would be right where he is, in the minors.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Catalanotto is the man who got that shaft.
I have no reason to care about Cat, though.
by philkid3 on Apr 16, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT was the best Ranger game I've EVER been to...
not even close. Every time I looked up it seemed Kins was racing around the bases.
game notes:
1) Kins 6 for 6 in a 9 inning game?!? How awesome is that?
2) Every time Nellie comes to the plate the long ball watch begins.
3) Benson really turned it around. The way he started out I was thinking we were going to get out asses kicked.
4) The Stadium looks beautiful with the new additions, the “wave” was in full force.
5) I was a little surprised Wash didn’t hit an Oriole batter after they hit Jones and tried to hit Young a couple times.
6) Don’t park in the Sheraton paking lot, they’ll get ya for 15 bucks instead of 12
I need the addresses where you want your Ranger calenders sent from the following peeps…dustinvanderman, RA Dickey, Brandon Worley, Sarasota, Boomer1
email it to GreatFlatware@aol.com make sure and mention your name on here.
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DUDE!
You were there?! Why didn’t you come find me!
For shame, LAMFBG. For shame.
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by ghtd36 on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know you were there sir, where were you?
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by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sect. 15, down pretty low.
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by ghtd36 on Apr 16, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sect. 30 for me
20th row
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSB is like the Illuminati.
You never know if they’re there, but trust me: they’re there. And they’re the ones hurling well-researched insults at Felix Pie.
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by ghtd36 on Apr 16, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that game where I got Laird's autograph last season
I remember someone here telling me they were standing like 3 people behind me.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every game I'm at
I keep waiting to here some LSB sayings, but I never do. I know you all are out there though….
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*hear
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which proves my point:
We need some sort of LSB signal. Maybe someone can yell out, “THE 40!”, and a fellow LSBer can reply, “TRUMPS ALL!”
Seeking a new signature...
by ghtd36 on Apr 16, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great idea, Greg!
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah with the small crowds
it shouldn’t be too hard to hear
oh, and another added bonus of the small crowds….MUCH higher chance of catching a foul ball that bounces off an entire section of empty seats.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speakin of...
…anyone going Sunday? I’ll be Sec 32 Row 11 with the folks and a friend.Come say hi, we can discuss country music sucking or Ft. Worth vs. Dallas. Good times.
by FuturePants on Apr 16, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
nah I’m going Friday
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Section 323 row 1,
Or thereabouts.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Apr 16, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We threw out plenty on Opening Day
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm a fan, and I'm a girl, but please don't call me a fangirl.
by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 16, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Opening Day
The lady sitting next to me could NOT believe Andrus’ first name is Elvis. Every time he came up, she would lauuuugh and lauuuugh.
by FuturePants on Apr 16, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha ha...I can understand that
The guy next to me rambled about how he thought Blalock was the worst decision this organization has made in recent years.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm a fan, and I'm a girl, but please don't call me a fangirl.
by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 16, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sending my address to ya
now and thanks again for doing this. i really appreciate it.
by dustinvandeman on Apr 16, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calendars
A friend of mine is sending me two. I really don’t need two. If anyone wants the extra, I’m happy to share. Just e-mail me at laney895@hotmail.com. First come, first serve :)
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm a fan, and I'm a girl, but please don't call me a fangirl.
by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 16, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And...I already have a taker
That was fast
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm a fan, and I'm a girl, but please don't call me a fangirl.
by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 16, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have 7 left if anybody wants one..
not including the 7 that have been reserved already.
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take one of those
what’s your email addy?
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok Whippy...they are very cool looking and BIG...
GreatFlatware@aol.com …the calender goes through March 2010 btw
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
I’ll shoot you an email when I get off work
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gene Scott, eh?
Step on a pissant for Jesus, and step on a pissant for me!
I must have called his 800 number 10,000 times, just to—-well, I mean, I liked whomever answered the phone…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah
back when channel 27 first came on the air, they would air his shows from 11pm to like 1 or 2am.
“The word ‘audit’ is not in the Bible!”
Man was a crazy SOB, but an entertaining one nonetheless…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Jones needs to play every day until he proves incapable of it
But we’re creating ourselves a bit of a LF/DH/1B logjam. Murph would seem to be the most expendable, but he’s got the least trade value right now. Byrd probably has the most trade value, but you don’t want to trade a clubhouse leader and galvanizing part of the team chemistry. You sure as heck don’t want to trade Davis. Taking bats away from Hammer probably makes the most sense, since as DJ points out, it will probably keep him healthy.
That’s five guys competing for time at three spots, and if there’s anything I don’t feel comfortable with, it’s Warsh managing a five-man rotation properly.
If Smoak and Maximilliano start to force the issue, heaven help us.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the other thing about byrd
you don’t want to trade your backup CF – we don’t have one and we need one as long as we are going with hamilton
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a damn shame
Jones’ weight and speed keeps him from being an option.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a damn shame
Hamilton can’t field his position better
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think
he will be an asset at one of the corner outfield spots just isnt a centerfielder. Im just hoping Borbon forces his way to the big leagues by the end of season.
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought Hambone needed to be in right
But Nellie ain’t giving up his playing time any time soon.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he would be a plus
Leftfielder.
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nellie or Ham?
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing is
You’re underutilizing his arm by putting him in left rather than in right
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Cruz doesn't have a ++ arm in RF?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but
i think Cruz has a good arm in right.
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap, Big Steve hacked your account!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of
Hasn’t been around in a while
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's mourning over Feldman
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's in the army reserves
and they have a commitment every other month or something like that.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
I bet he’s off doing something with this
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My buddy just got 400 days
in country…I hope Steve didn’t get that same short stick.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey Dood..
your new place is GORGEOUS!
And what’s this about some hot ass chick in a 2 piece coming around every night between 7 and 8 to pick up your garbage?!?
You uppity hoity toity snobby *&#^%@!!!!!!!!
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL-Thanks!
I am prolly the most white trashe’ person living here….haha!
One thing I didn’t know when I moved in-they have a Starbucks machine in the biz center…holy crap, I’m really gonna be a cafeine junky now. You select from two types of beans, it grinds it fresh, and brews you a cup of joe in about three minutes…yummy!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh white trashe?
is that white trash with cache?
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 16, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
White Trashe
are people that pronounce Target as Tarjay
I got nuthin…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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by WhipSmart on Apr 16, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has been a while.....
since Hammy has made a good throw to get someone out…….a long while. I’m already over his “big arm”, I just want him in the lineup everyday and healthy.
Ian Kinsler..... yea, he's good at baseball.
by bspate on Apr 16, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I think Byrd is perfect for this team. You need him for his versatility and right now his bat needs to be in that lineup every day.
Murphy should be getting 5th OF playing time right now. Late inning defensive substitutions, a few ABs here and there until his swing kicks in. He is not the same caliber of player as anyone else in that lineup.
Jones/Blalock should be straight platooning at DH, with Jones getting to face some righties as well.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say Hank and Andruw are both hitting pretty decent come June/July
A) Which one has more trade value, and B) Which one would you trade?
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by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just speaking for myself
A) Jones
B) Both, if I can get a good return
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Kinslerhomer on Apr 16, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think Jones would have more trade value?
I think blalock would but not by much. I think a few teams would be scared off by Jones leaving Jaramillo and the ballpark. However, I guess some teams could still see value with Jones as corner outfielder.
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with Blalock
other than the money, is that he has no flexibility with position. He’s basically Jim Thome out there – if he had to play 1b, he probably could, but he really should be DHing.
Jones is a DH right now since the team’s OF is deep, but presumably he could play a corner better than Hank could play 1st. That opens up the entire NL to him.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure if that presumption is valid
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh i know, but i guess
i have to agree that trading both would be a very plausible option. Just matters the package. Also, we are getting ahead of ourselves here a bit. Jones could be a bust by then and Blalock could be on the DL
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he could play in the OF
he wouldn’t have started the season as a platoon DH.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock costs almost 6 million more
and is injury prone, so yes, I think Jones would have more trade value if they both were hitting.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Jones had a 30 OPS+ or whatever last season
You don’t think teams will be worried about that and the whole only hitting well with Rudy and the Ballpark thing?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope,
I really don’t think that will be an issue if he hits midseason with a 150 OPS+
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GMs tend to have short term memories about that sort of thing
They’ll forget all about the RBiA effect at a 150 OPS+ if it’s not going to cost them an arm and a leg in prospects.
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by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he'll do that
What with his whole 111 career OPS+ and his top 3 seasons being 136, 126, and 125. You’re on crack if you’re expecting anything near 150 by July.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of those top 3 seasons occurred in the Ballpark
When the temperature heats up and the wind starts blowing out, anything is possible in the shooting gallery.
See Matthews Jr, Gary.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's BS
To expect Jones to be one of the best hitters in baseball when he is 32 and not only beat his best seasons, but blow them out of the water (when they are pretty good seasons to begin with), isn’t going to happen. If it does, then the Rangers finish the year with the best bullpen ERA in baseball too.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's MB
didn’t they say something similar about a certain DH we had last year named Milton Bradley?
Career 110 OPS+ going into 2008, OPS in 2008? 163. Tops in the AL.
Or for that matter, how about Marlon Byrd. Career OPS+ of 85 going into 2006. OPS+’s of 113 and 123 in Arlington since
or Mark Derosa? 78 OPS+ before, 108 during and since.
or GMJ? 85 OPS+ before, 108 while here.
by iblum on Apr 16, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but are there any examples??
j/k
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by bking on Apr 16, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was never any doubt about Milton's talents
He was coming off an amazing run with San Diego and had posted a 145 OPS+ before in his career. The problem with him was and always has been injuries.
Byrd, DeRo, and GMJ are all different subjects. You’re talking about players playing poorly and coming here and playing above average. None of those guys were the best hitters in the league at any point in their careers. There were 4 players in the AL last year to have an OPS+ of 150 or above. 6 in 2007. Rudy’s a good batting coach and the Ballpark is a hitter’s park, but a 150 OPS+ is saying that Jones will rebound and be one of the top hitters in the league and that is crazy given what he has done throughout his career.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true on Milton
His “amazing run” with San Diego was basically 2 months or 160 PA’s of hot hitting. His 145 OPS+ in Cleveland was 5 years ago. and the reason his season was interrupted in San Diego was discipinary followed by injury.
There was a HUGE doubt that Bradley would hit in Texas, coupled with a different doubt that he would stay healthy.
as for the others, I think its fair to say that Rudy’s weakness is no knowing how to make a hitter more selective. He’s very much a "see ball hit ball " kind of hitting coach.
by iblum on Apr 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Show me this huge doubt about Bradley hitting in Texas
The only doubt was his health.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just throwing a number out.
If he is hitting this year, thats all thats going to matter.
I really doubt that his 30 OPS+ last year will have any impact if he is hitting at the All Star Break.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't
Given the complete lack of interest in him this offseason, I don’t see some team giving us anything decent in a trade just a few months later. Remember how much we were able to get for Milton Bradley last season?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
milton bradley had other issues
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Jones doesn't?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he?
i don’t remember any headcase issues. I dont’ remember him attacking an ump.
and so far, he hasn’t been held out every other game with quad and fatigue issues
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ump thing is a low blow
the ump got suspended for a reason. Todd Helton even said he couldn’t believe what he was hearing.
Jones played half a season last year because he was hurt and couldn’t play baseball. There is a pretty good argument that his past success was steroids related. I find it hard to believe a decent GM ignores all that to trade a good prospect for a DH now.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm saying those are the things that probably
affected bradley’s trade value.
and i think a decent GM will look at Giambi and still see someone who is fairly young and has his swing back and will make some offer. and i think that is worth more than whatever PA’s you’re worried about losing
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi vs. Jones
There is no comparison. Giambi was far greater than Jones in their better days and look at his worst year in his entire career. That year where the roids started having a negative effect. He put up a 90 OPS+. In his worst year ever, he still was only 10% worse (according to OPS) than the league average hitter. Furthermore, he has always been a walk machine. Even when he was doing poorly with the bat, his OBP was still right around what Jones would average in a given year.
The thing that Jones had going for him throughout his career was his power. GIambi had great power, but the thing that gave him the most value from year-year was his amazing on base skills which the steroids couldn’t ever affect that much.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi vs Jones
In comparing Giambi vs Jones the first thing you have to notice when you go past the triple slash categories is defense. Jones was not just a gold glove centerfielder. He was probably one of the best centerfielders in the history of the game. From 1997 through 2004 he averaged 45 fielding runs above replacement. Giambi, according to BP, managed to break even as a replacement level fielder, meaning that even when he was in the field, he might has well have been DH ing. Over their careers, Giambi is about 400 runs better with the bat, where as Jones is about 500 runs better with the glove, making Jones more valuable by approximately 10 wins. This is reflected in Giambi’s 61.5 WARP to Jones’ 72.5 WARP.
Jones is also 6 years younger, meaning that its far more likely than Giambi to play another 10 years. If he can get back into the shape he was in Atlanta (which he isn’t in yet), then he could be the defensive force that he once was
by iblum on Apr 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also bradley cost significantly more
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you talking in actual dollars?
Because I don’t really see that being that big of a deal, especially since the economy wasn’t at rock bottom yet. You’re talking about a couple of million dollars for the best bat in the league. That’s one hell of a deal for a team looking to make the playoffs.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one
was being traded last midseason. If midseason trades are that dead this year, then it won’t be worth it either. If it’s like a couple years ago when we flipped Lofton, it will be worth it. I have no idea, and neither do you, what the midseason trade market will be like this year.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the way the economy
is right now for a lot of teams, Jones (starting to come over on the fact he would be more valuable) could be one of the most sought after players if he is still hitting and he can prove he can play a not terrible OF.
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The price of prospects has obviously fallen back to 07 levels
/sarcasm
I don’t know what the market will be like, but I can guarantee you that we aren’t going back to 07 like trades anytime soon.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have no idea
It depends on how close the races are, and how many teams can put themselves over the hump.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it doesn't
Teams aren’t trading prospects like they used to. It doesn’t matter how many teams are in the race, its just not going to happen.
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
B) neither.
you do more of what happened last night. Davis sits and Jones/Blalock both play.
If they are both hitting well in June/July you either want to showcase the crap out of both of them to see what both would return or the team is in the thick of things in the standings and you need both of them to keep producing.
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by mtex on Apr 16, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis sits?
I tend to disagree. I dont think that Davis should sacrifice playing time for either Jones or Blalock no matter how hot they are.
by Michael Cave on Apr 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes no sense to me.
You will have control over neither in the offseason, so if you are going to trade them you have to trade them in june/july.
Get what you can for whoever that is not part of our future around the all star break, and keep packing out the future.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
You’re assuming we will be terrible come July 31st.
by tyd3311 on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming
we won’t be in the playoff race with our pitching and defense. That’s correct.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why the hell are we playing Jones and benching Davis?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
its his first game off of the year, and RW is trying to keep players fresh?
If CD gets sit back to back games, I’d say its a legitimite complaint. But if he gets sat one game a week, I really don’t care.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i doubt he's on pace even for that
probably 2 games every three weeks
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
9 games into the season
with 1 off day already and an off day today. You think Davis really needs 3 days off in the first 2 weeks of the season to stay “fresh”?
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by Gdawg on Apr 16, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a better question
if we had cat instead of jones, you don’t think washington is benching davis yesterday?
because i most emphatically do. and I don’t think JD minds it.
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MyMostMercifulSweetCleanJesusLord.......
It’s one friggin’ game off, possibly to clear his head a bit. The ability of this place to overreact at warp speed to every lineup decision is crazy, but does provide for some fun watching.
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by bking on Apr 16, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on the team's situation
A> Jones value > Blalock’s. Hank costs 10 times as much
B> If we’re out of contention, then trade everyone on one-year deals. Jones, Blalock, Byrd, Millwood, Padilla you name it.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since we are talking about trades
Has Clay Buchholz been still sitting in the minors for boston? Renew the glorious push for him.
by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who do you trade for him?
I’m not totally sure that I still support dealing Salty straight up for Buch.
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by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then how about Blalock for Sanchez right now - straight up?
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by mtex on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do that deal
Sanchez is raw and his first start was terrible, but those K/9 numbers will always attract me.
Does Sabean do that deal, though?
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
by WestTxAg06 on Apr 16, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you're the only person
on the planet that would say no. If that offer was on the table, 99% of people do it.
by Coolbean04 on Apr 16, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
Theo Epstein will say no :(
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes in the minors
and slightly injured right now too, so he likely wont take dice-k’s spot
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by rentz on Apr 16, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm... Didn't walking Jones simply set up a double play opportunity.
I don’t see how it could be interpreted as fear and respect for Jones’ hitting ability.
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by rooster on Apr 16, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that
and it was lefty on lefty after Jones IIRC
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by Dirk Diggler on Apr 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's both, right?
If they don’t fear him, why not pitch to him and get the out?
by bhudson on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andruw is screwing up the season!!!
forget 2010…he’s setting us back 5 years!
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know
giving CD a day off, after his earlier day off got cancelled because Blalock tweaked himself (shocking!), will lead to the downfall of the franchise for the duration of this century is my prediction.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
isn’t the most likely scenario that blalock gets injured and Jones takes over DH?
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by ab03 on Apr 16, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's how I'd be betting.
Blalock has shown he can injure himself while sleeping, so he’s the odds on favorite to make the DL.
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by DJCahill on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His body rejects the notion--------------------
Oh jeez, what was that….where am I?
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by Rodney on Apr 16, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear
this whole Andruw Jones paranoia is very strange. Its like a certain talk show host hoping a certain president fails. They’d love to see Jones be awful so it blows up in JD’s face just to prove that they were right all along.
by JBImaknee on Apr 16, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
I just see no reason to play Jones at all because I don’t see any way he brings anything valuable in a trade and know that there’s less than a 1% chance he brings back draft picks. I do not support moves that have no reward for the team.
Now if we make the playoffs because of Jones, then I’ll chan