Rockies Flamethrower on Waivers
by Pocket Ninja on Apr 17, 2009 11:39 AM CDT
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Evan’s buddy Tracy Ringolsby reports that the Rockies have placed flamethrowing right-handed reliever Juan Morillo on waivers.
I would not be the least bit surprised if Morillo ends up in the Rangers system. The 25 year old can bring triple-digit cheese and I’ve seen him deal 92 mph sliders (while sitting next to one of the Rangers pro scouts who was basically giddy at what he was seeing).
Somehow, his results have never remotely reflected his physical ability, but given the club’s need to find a power RH setup man to replace Jack Benoit, I can see Texas taking a flyer on Morillo.
Lights up the radar but has some control problems. He may be worth a look if the Rangers can claim him.
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by TedFord on Apr 17, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
2008
59.2 IP
and
56 BB
Career minors:
543.0 IP
326 BB
Won’t bother me if they pass right over this one.
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by hightowersmith on Apr 17, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions
unfortunatly there arent that many out there that dont lol
not everyone is maddux lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at his minor league stats, it seems like the control problems were mostly just this past year
Judging by his K/BB rates… last year in Colorado Springs (AAA) the K/BB was 0.98, when every year before that (except in rookie ball) it was always 1.5 or better, and 2.29 between AA and AAA in 2007. He still gave up less than a hit per inning. Unless his control has fallen off a cliff in 2009, which I can’t find any stats to find out, he’d probably be one of our better relievers right out of the box.
id still love to have him in the bullpen
whats the worst case? hes dropped later in the year?
best case? he sticks as a juan cruz-lite
whats one reason to not take the chance?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Who do you drop to make room for him?
It would have to be either Rupe or Feldman, I suspect.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
rupe
fairly easy decision for me
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Morillo really an upgrade over Rupe?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
ceiling wise?
hell yes
if both are going to be about the same kind of pitcher, dont you take the one with the higher ceiling in a heartbeat?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Are they going to be about the same kind of pitcher?
Morillo has less than 10 major league innings, and walked more guys than he struck out in AAA last year.
I have a hard time sitting here and saying that Morillo = Rupe in terms of current quality.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
How long do you think Rupe
is really going to last in this bullpen, and by most arguments he could have already been sent to waivers instead of optioning Madrigal. I say we don’t lose anything with this move. Perhaps Maddux can work with him to help improve his command, or perhaps he doesn’t have ‘it’ and we end up releasing him to bring up Diamond or Moscoso. I’m ok with it either way.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
Rupe more than doubled his innings total from 2007 to 2008
I’m wondering if that’s having an effect on him now… but then again, he’s also pitched 158.2 innings in a season before.
x
I say we don’t lose anything with this move.
We lose something if Morillo is worse than Rupe, which I think is a distinct possibility.
Perhaps Maddux can work with him to help improve his command,
This seems to much like the “perhaps Rudy can work with him” argument that is offered for all the scrub hitters that people suggest bringing in.
I’m not going to jump up and down and throw a fit if they drop Rupe to make room for Morillo. But I don’t see that it is a slam-dunk move like others suggest, and I certainly question whether he’s as good as Rupe right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Rupe a piece that we can replace in the off season
if it fails? Is he a piece that might clear waivers if we outright him?
What do voluntary mean?
Then
it is basically a low risk maneuver.
I honestly don’t think much would come of it, but it is a tempting thing to try because I think we are very close to knowing what Rupe is.
Morillo could be much more, but probably won’t be. And if he comes in and stinks it up we can always DFA him later to bring in the reclamation project that is Nippert when he’s ready.
What do voluntary mean?
My main point
was the fact that we lose nothing in the fact that Rupe is probably going to be DFA-ed pretty soon anyway to make room whenever anybody else is available to be called up, so this move makes sense. It is a risk, and risk worth taking.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
the "perhaps Rudy can..." argument
IS an argument because of the horrible batters he’s been able to help. Didn’t Andrew Jones get walked intentionally the other day?
If the kid is throwing in the triple digits and is ONLY 25, he should be tabbed ASAP. You never know when a pitcher is going to put everything together. Hell, Cliff Lee was horrible until he turned 30. I don’t understand why you’d throw away that kind of talent.
If he can figure out his location, he’s a potential closer with a 100+ FB and a 90mph slider. On his BEST day, Rupe will NEVER come close to offering that kind of potential.
Agree
Triple digits are triple digits. Those kind of players are going to get chances continually from SOMEBODY.
Look at Daniel Cabrera: throws really really hard, has no idea where it’s going. Still getting chances, because if he can ever find his control, watch out.
Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
What horrible hitters has Rudy fixed?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The ones
he normally gets credit for are Dellucci, GMJ, DeRosa,etc..
I would say his results with hitters seems to be much better than our pitching coaches record with pitchers. If we had a similar track record with pitching, we’d probably be favored to win the West.
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Initial indications are positive
But let’s see a bit larger sample size before we declare AJ “fixed”.
Morillo
i was just looking over his stats and projections and frankly i think i’d rather have rupe.
sure morillo can light up the radar gun, but his ratios are pretty bad.
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does Morillo have more upside than Rupe?
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
yes yes hell yes
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Rupe an answer to the bullpen problem?
Is he really helping the situation much? This bullpen needs some serious help, and all Rupe has shown over his career is that he is injury prone and not very good.
And you also have to start looking at the long-term options. Morillo might not work out, but his ceiling is better than Rupe’s and he has a chance to be here past this season. Even if we don’t jump all over this, isn’t Rupe going to go through arbitration next season? If that’s the case, then he’ll have to look a lot better than he has to avoid being non-tendered anyways.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
So...
Morillo is probably worse than Rupe, but he might be better, so cut loose Rupe and add Morillo?
I don’t see that that solves much of anything.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
do you think Rupe passes through waivers?
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
if he doesn't
he will probably go 14-8 with a 3.25 somewhere next year
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 17, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Its not a guaranteed solution
but I don’t think like the chances of Rupe being good anytime soon. If Morillo doesn’t show any type of control, then I think you’re just going from bad to slightly worse. In the end, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. That’s worth the possibility that we lose Rupe.
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Rupe would seem to be the most likely
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just boot rupe
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
When I saw the rock-paper-scissors reference...
I was hoping someone would add the Lizard-Spock.
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Keith Law: (1:45 PM ET ) I think Michael Young should shut his mouth and move to third base.
but Feldman's straw, if pulled,
means Benson’s gone and Feldman’s back in the rotation, with Rupe staying and Morillo taking Feldman’s spot in the pen
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by Walter Sobchak on Apr 17, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
So, you're saying you'd rather keep Rupe than Benson???
That’s Rupe, who’s shown a bunch of nothing in his time here, over Benson, who may be serviceable given his results to date as he shakes off the rust.
Huh.
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Feldman
Do you guys think there is really a market chomping to get Feldman?
by Mike Simonek on Apr 17, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
there is less of a market to get Rupe
Feldman at least was a guy that was a consistent starter who went 6 innings alot for us last year.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
Wow
I can’t believe we actually have folks suggesting that we waive Feldman.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey. it's your site
You left the door unlocked, didn’t ya?
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Once again
isn’ t there a reasonable chance you can get something pretty equal to Feldman off of waivers or cheap in the off season. I know our pitching is bad, but keeping the middle of the bad lot isn’t that big of a deal.
What do voluntary mean?
I don't think so
Unless you just think Feldman is trash.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think hes a swing man
I think hes a #5 starter/long man in the bullpen. That’s not trash but its also not a hard commodity to find another of, unless your us apparently.
What do voluntary mean?
Its not something...
…that you just dump on the waiver wire for no reason, either, which is why I’m sitting here trying to figure out why it is being suggested we just dump Feldman for Juan freaking Morillo.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
who else could you get right now
as a decent #5 option. Feldman was huge for us last year, and I felt like he should have been in the rotation to start the year. He saved our bullpen a number of times when they had been overworked by everyone else.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
I wasn't......
just was asking from a more casual fan then some here. Sorry let’s go ahead and put Feldman in the HOF (tongue in cheek so calm down)
by Mike Simonek on Apr 17, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Incidentally
Do you guys think there is really a market chomping to get Feldman?
Baltimore or the Nats claim him and stick him in their rotation in a heartbeat.
Hell, he’d probably be Anaheim’s #3 starter right now. I’m not convinced they wouldn’t grab him as a short-term solution.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Half his starts last year
were quality starts. His pitching as a starter wasn’t that bad.
Its not like you can build a rotation around him, but we seem to throw worse out there.
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And are currently...
….because of this dumbass decision to hang onto Kris Benson.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
And
he also might be about as good as Vicente Padilla since he has been a Ranger.
Its just a shame that Feldman is such crap as a reliever. It’d be nice to have a swingman who can transition, especially if he is a fairly mediocre starter.
I do understand them trying to pack as many arms on the roster though. They have so much deadwood on that staff, they are just hoping someone can step up.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
But, they are banking on someone getting injured
Feldman should get his opportunity this year before long. Or maybe this will be the only year in a long time where we don’t have to use 9 starters in the 1st 2 months.
Yep
they were playing a numbers game, and hoping Feldman didn’t completely suck as a reliever.
It’s pretty much a given that one of our pitchers will get injured, or suck too hard to continue to keep in the rotation/bullpen.
History says we will use around a dozen different starters and 25 or so pitchers total this year.
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yup
thats part of my problem with all these make good nri’s. the team gets enamored with the vet on the come back trail and use them over a young player they already have
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Except
they could probably dump the vets they have also. Lets face it, Benson has a chance not to outpitch Feldman, but to outpitch Padilla.
The problem isn’t necessarily the make good NRIs clogging the roster, its the high dollar multiyear contracts with guys who don’t play much better than NRIs clogging the Roster.
Since they fattened Padilla’s wallet, he’s given the Rangers about a 5 ERA, and about a 45% quality start rate. They can probably do that with NRIs like Benson.
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I agree with that last part
but I don’t see why Feldman should be essentially punished for Padilla’s contract. He’s still at an age where he could fit in the rangers plans, hopefully as a 5th starter.
You can’t really say that about Benson. He’s here to provide a veteran presence and throw strikes to get the team off to a decent start for once. He really hasn’t done that up to this point. I’d wager he’s gone after the next 2-3 starts unless he decides to put it together.
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I honestly think
he is here for the insurance policy when one of our pitchers gets injured or optioned or release. It wouldn’t surprise me either if Benson was the one getting released.
It seems to me the Rangers have made 3 or so pitching moves in April alone the last handful of years.
They always start the year with a rotation and bullpen full of question marks, and one or two bubble up and play better than expected. Last year it was Ponson pitching better than expected, a few years before that it was Tejeda. I think they are just hoping Benson gets something going in case McCarthy gets injured, or Harrison starts sucking uncontrollably, or Padilla gets thrown in jail for a drunken brawl.
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It's tough to say
its completely dumbass when they win half of Benson’s starts. It’d be real tough to say that the outcome would’ve been significantly different had they released Benson, started Feldman, and put ??? in the bullpen. Its not like there aren’t other holes to be patched in the bullpen.
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Feldman
belongs in the/a rotation, he said in spring training he wasnt comfortable coming out of the pen, so either make room for hiim the big league rotation or put him in the AAA rotation (to me him in AAA is rediculous) he needs to be starting games
by blueballlefty on Apr 17, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Easily Rupe
of the two.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
Hell...
…He can’t be that much worse than Rupe.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
*Hell, why not...
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by Kinslerhomer on Apr 17, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
The control is an issue
But I’d love to take a chance on him. Even with poor control, he’s still probably a top option out of our bullpen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Roll the dice.
Bye bye Josh Rupe.
What do voluntary mean?
I can just see Salty
telling Juan Morillo to just hit Captain in the head with the heat.
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varsity blues - style
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by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
or Bull Durham-style
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by LBBRangerFan on Apr 17, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
But where will he fit on THE CHART?
note: Idea shamelessly stolen from a Braves site.
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by vfn on Apr 17, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
I'm not sure theres a different place once you get past Frankie
I think they are all at risk of blowing a lead. It just seems like CJ is way too up and down for the stuff he has.
What do voluntary mean?
rupe should be DFA-ed for that photo alone
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
i would put CJ
at guarded. He has looked good in all but one of his outings. It’s just that his bad outing was REALLY bad. He’s still our best option in the 8th inning, I think.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Enticing
but I’m just not that excited about a guy with that many walks.
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I guess its an upside argument
If Rupe gets all his ducks in a row he’s got the potential to be a decent bullpen arm. If this guy gets them in a row he has the chance to be an exceptional bullpen arm.
I just think Rupe is likely replacable.
What do voluntary mean?
my viewpoint almost exactly
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
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Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 17, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If we have a bad bullpen
at least have a bad bullpen with a higher upside.
What do voluntary mean?
Walks kill our bullpen
but the ability to have a guy miss bats alltogether IF he gets it right is very enticing. Triple digits in our pen by the end of the year? Where else have we seen that idea…Feliz coming in. I’d rather take a flier on this guy – maybe dangle Rupe, but I’d rather just drop Benson, put Feldman in the rotation, and pick him up. If Feldman fails, fine – bring up the AAA reinforcements after a few starts.
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by Walter Sobchak on Apr 17, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions
based on the photo alone
I think I’d take Morillo.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
rupe looks stoned
Or at least half way asleep.
What do voluntary mean?
Rupe looks like prisoner 102938473
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by Pocket Ninja on Apr 17, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
this is awesome…
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He's always looked
like someone you would see on Cops in a wifebeater.
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I was just gonna say..
those pictures have “The Smoking Gun” written all over them.
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premature! premature! premature!
in the recycling center
Eddie won't be outright released.
I really see him moving into a temp coaching role, to see if he likes it, rather than the team completely severing ties with him. JMO, of course.
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Twins...
…claimed Morillo. Thread closed : )
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yep
oh well.
that means that we didn’t put a waiver on him right?
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
Yep.
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by Kinslerhomer on Apr 17, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Philip Humber was designated. Take a flyer?
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No thanks, too homer-prone.
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Its almost like Tradio!
Lets swap our trash for other teams trash!
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Damn that's a callback.
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why Rupe over Eddie?
It’s not like we really use Eddie as a loogy. He is usually asked to come in and work an inning like anyone else. I would much rather drop Eddie and give Rupe another month or so. Rupe looked good in Wednesday’s game, getting four grounders that didn’t leave the infield, which is exactly what we need him to do. We just need him to skip the 2 run HR next time. Everyone around here is so adament about “playing the kids” and playing for the future, and yet people want to run Rupe off before Eddie Guardardo? I don’t get it.
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This has even less justification on the main page
than kitschy 80’s music vids
It appears JD passed
Tracy Ringolsby of Inside The Rockies notes that the Twins were the 21st in line to make the Morillo claim.
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I'd be inclined
to take a shot at 100+mph stuff, even if he has zero control. Its not like our bullpen has so many great arms, we couldn’t make room.
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Doens't bother me any
That walk rate of his is astronomical. Probably not fixable. Has the talent to throw the ball real hard but nothing else, I would guess. Classic thrower.
by Black Francis on Apr 17, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Can he wear his hat straight?
If so, Rupe should be gone. Hmmm…funny that C.J. has trouble wearing his straight as well. Coincidence?
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