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4-6

3-0 start, 1-6 since then. Another ugly game against a team that isn't very good.  And I think the Ron Washington Doomsday Clock is getting real close to hitting midnight. 

Ron Washington is in his third season as a manager, and he still doesn't seem to get it.  I have my doubts that he is going to get it -- I'd be shocked if he's here beyond this season, and quite honestly, the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking Wash won't make it to Tuesday's game in Toronto, much less Memorial Day.

Wash is an example of the Peter Principle at work, and hiring him is another black eye for Jon Daniels, although I think when you look at the collection of candidates for the managerial job he put together after the 2006 season,  and look at what they are doing right now, I think you can argue that the more damning criticism than hiring Washington was putting together such a mediocre group of candidates for the job.

But the thing that jumps out at me, the thing that is a perfect example of the issue here, is the decision to hit for Michael Young today in the 7th inning.  Yeah, you're down 9-0, and it is the 7th inning, but you've got the bases loaded, you've got a home crowd the is desperate for something to cheer about, you've got a chance to at least make things interesting...

And you sit Young -- apparently for no other reason than to give him a rest because you are giving up on the game -- and send up Omar Vizquel to pinch hit for him.

Not Andruw Jones, who is supposedly here to be your big righty power bat.  Not even David Murphy, who would have had the platoon advantage, and who Washington put into the game anyway in the top of the 8th, after Vizquel popped out.

No, Washington rolled Vizquel out there.  Like so much of what he does, it isn't a move that seems to have any real logical or thought out basis.  Evan Grant has said numerous times that Washington is different from Buck and Oates because he manages by his "gut," rather than by the percentages.  But I'm starting to wonder if managing by his gut is another way of saying managing without thinking things through.

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by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Manging from his gut

means his indigestion makes decision for him which usually results in a stench… aka Rangers baseball under Wash

by bstair on Apr 17, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Murphy was coming in for hamilton no matter what

But AJ shoudl have hit. You pull players from the game when you are up 10 runs late, not down 10. And with the baes loaded? Come on, I’m not watching these games for the pitching.

OT- Kubel hit for the cycle tonight. Odd.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 17, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions  

If you are bringing Murphy in for Hamilton no matter what...

…then let Murphy hit for Young.

Hell, if he just gets a single, it is 9-2, and you’ve got Hamilton coming up next with two men on.

There’s no excuse for hitting Vizquel there.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

well obviously i didnt agree with the move

im just saying that he had already decided on vizquel/murph no matter what happened. which is stupid.

The stupid part is pinch hitting anyone, young should have stayed in the game. But yes, it should have been jones if he was so committed to doing it. Which is what you were saying, im not disagreeing..

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

A hamster could out manage Wash

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Interesting concept

a fern as gm and a hamster as mgr.

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've backed JD forever, but no longer.

Smart or not, the dude has just lost me with his shit personnel decisions. Ron Washington wows everyone with his enthusiasm, but did anyone ever asked him what he would do in certain game situations? It’s called fucking behavioral interviewing and it fucking works. Find out how someone has reacted or would react in certain employment situations. This pitching staff, rotation to bullpen is a fucking fiasco, except for Millwood thus far and a couple of bp guys are showing up. Other than that, all of the preseason predictions are correct. There will be a drop off in win totals from last year. I’m ill from being a fan of this team and I hold tickets to multiple games yet. Call that a sunk cost…..

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Backed JD forever?

Dude, you are such a fair weather peice of trash. Ten to one says you talked a bunch of noise on JD when he made the Texiera trade too. Heck, everyone did, so why not you too? Turns out he’s actually brought our minor league program from 30th to 1st in two years. John Hart stepped down as GM because he know JD would light it up. JD is/has been/always will be busting his balls for this program so why don’t you take your ignorant, short sightedness to some team you fit in rooting for like the Yanks or BoSox, we don’t even want you here.
And the Texiera trade? Turned out pretty well didn’t it? Elvis Andrus is starting at SS, Nephtali Feliz is in the minors working on getting some experience wth his maxed out 101mph fastball, and Holland is about to show up and start the MLB Batters Massacre.

by choisne on Apr 18, 2009 3:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

because Holland really came in the “Texiera” trade as you seem to be implying.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Apr 18, 2009 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

this

is amazing….

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 18, 2009 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alright, Drunky McFuckstick

Since this post was well past midnight, I suspect when you wrote this drivel, you were as drunk as a Kennedy on Patriot’s Day. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

First Point: "Ten to one says you talked a bunch of noise on JD when he made the Texiera trade too. Heck, everyone did, so why not you too?" Hey douche bag, it’s spelled "Teixeira". Any real Rangers’ fan would know that, but I guess I’m just a fair-weather fan, right? Helluva generalization with that statement you made there. You must have "talked a bunch of noise" since you said everyone did and "everyone" would include you, dick. I wasn’t talking about any trades in my post. That is one portion of JD’s job description, but not the sole bullet point. My post was regarding his hiring decisions. RW was a poor hire, PLUS he did a poor job of putting this pitching staff and bullpen together. Those are also very important pieces of his job descriptions and he has not met expectations in that regard.

Second Point: The name is spelled "Neftali" Feliz. Any true Rangers’ fan would know that as well. Not some interloping jack off such as yourself.

Third Point: Fair weather "peice" of trash? Moi? My first Ranger’s game in person was 1973 and I saw the great Vida Blue on the mound in Arlington Stadium. The A’s kicked the Rangers collective asses, too. Fair-weather? I think not.

Fourth Point: "…..so why don’t you take your ignorant, short sightedness to some team you fit in rooting for like the Yanks or BoSox, we don’t even want you here." You come onto my fucking board and talk shit like this as your first post when you are obviously so out of your element. Why don’t you sit in the fucking corner with your thumb up your ass and watch how this is done. Children should be seen and not heard. How fucking dare you to tell me "we don’t want you here". You must have stumbled over here ‘cause you couldn’t get your TMZ site to load, so you thought you’d see what the big kids were doing. Fuck you and get off this board. WE DON"T WANT YOU HERE! Oh yeah, go fuck yourself.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 20, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

A regular hamster, or that one who hangs out on the piano?

Cause the piano hamster is the shit.

No way we could get him to come here.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fiance' is in Houston for a appoitnment with her seamstress for her wedding dress

All my buddies are out of town, I have ran out of beer, and the Rangers shit the bed tonight…

This evening has been a failure

by laxtonto on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

At least the kids did well

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Liquor? Cough syrup? Anything???

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

pour it all into a glass and light it on fire

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think it's his but not his gut..

,,,since that’s where his head is

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I am going to the game on Sunday afternoon

Driving to Arlington from Amarillo.

If they lose, I will never, ever make that drive again.

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Apr 17, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

x
But I’m starting to wonder if managing by his gut is another way of saying managing without thinking things through.

Not to say “I told you so”… but I’ve been saying that for a long time now…

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions  

would "without a clue" fit as well?

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wash still manager in post game conference :(

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

oh my god

just wanted to get a veteran Vizquel an at bat…thats what he just said? you have got to be kidding me

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Vintage Wash!

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is irresponsible managing

MY, I guess he’s not a veteran….unbelievable….that is embarrassing…

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

bases loaded

and a chance to put up a big number!! At least bat Jones, who has some pop and has been swinging well. What a fool!

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

just wow.

That explanation alone should lead to his firing in the next hour…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am absolutely fed up with this bullpen.

At this point I think I’d rather see Hunter, Holland, Feliz, Diamond, Gordon, and Strop in the pen. Send Harrison down to AAA and throw Holland in his spot. Harrison looked horrible tonight.

by bstair on Apr 17, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Totally.

Honestly it’d probably be better to put Benson in the pen and throw Holland or Feliz into the rotation. They gotta learn some time, and if we’re gonna lose because of pitching they might as well learn a little right? Plus Eddie is maxed out at 83 right now which is just a joke. He can’t locate the ball for his life.

by choisne on Apr 18, 2009 3:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

the bright side

elvis andrus has a .971 ops

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Hilariously

Elvis has been one of the only things not to be a disaster this year.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis, Kinsler, Hambone, McCarthy, Millwood, Franky-Frank, and Young have all been good, imo... Am I missing anyone?

Other guys have been good in shorter bursts (Jones, Byrd, Jennings, etc.) and I still have faith in Davis and Salty despite their slow starts.

We’ve had plenty of things go right.

Unfortunately the implosion of the non-Fx2 members of our bullpen along with 3 of our 5 starters makes the whole ship seem like it’s on fire.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's hitting near .300, and it's not like anyone thinks the power won't come.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's been an ugly .300

Imagine what he could do if with a little more patience.

by octoberty on Apr 18, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

It'll come.

Of all the things I’m worried about regarding this team, Hambone’s mediocre start ain’t one of ’em.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

His plate discipline has been awful

And his defense at CF has been absolutely atrocious so far.

He’s been worth negative wins so far. Small sample size yes, but if we’re evaluating performance up until now, he has absolutely not been good.

by LiamP on Apr 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nellie

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 18, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

D'oh, totally forgot Nelly. He's been everything we could've hoped.

If there’s such a thingas quieting all doubters in the first 15 days, he’s done that.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, but, like I said, at this point he's such a small sample size guy it's hard to rate him either way.

That said, he’s certainly looked pretty okay at the plate.

Better than David Murphy.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Remember how giddy

Tom and Jon were after their interview with Washington? It does not give one a good feeling about the quality of hires we are likely to see in the future.

by Jea103 on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

You learn from your biggest screw ups

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 17, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

no errors

or WP or PB and only a questionable baserunning decision by Kinsler. If Wash had just played it straight he would be OK. He could just point to the bullpen. He could even get a pass on the offense because he has Rudy behind him. But no, Wash has a brain fart. I don’t know what can save him at this point.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly...

On a night when he had plenty of excuses to point to for a loss besides himself, he still draws the criticism toward him with a stupid roster management problem.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

only thing I can think of

is that he really does want to be fired…what other reason can you think of?

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only the hand of God can save Wash now...

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, true.

wash was pretty stupid today, but its the bullpen thats the blame. and those responsible for assembling it.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 17, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another 7-game winning streak like the one we had at the end of last April might

A this point that might actually be a bad thing though.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who could/would replace Wash?

let’s put together a wish list… and wish hard

by bstair on Apr 17, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

i would take

Phil Garner in a heartbeat…

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why Phil Garner is one of the worst

managers there is. An arm slagger, a scrub lover and utterly worthless for anything.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

in other words

he’d be an improvement.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 18, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't he take the

Astros to the WS?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

their pitching and berkman and co. did…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Carlos Beltran

Lance Berkman and gang took the Astros to a WS.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran

was playing for the NY Mets when the Astros went to the WS

by bdk03a on Apr 18, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever

Phil Garner had nothing to do with it

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 18, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

If that's the criteria...

…we could go hire Ozzie Guillen when the ChiSox fire him.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zing!

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

who then AJM

if Garner is the definition of mediocre

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guillen would be good

for the posts on LSB alone. So much potential for Comedy Gold.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

no kidding!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

jimmy williams was highly toted and fell on his face, and all it took was garner coming in to jump start that team AJM…isn’t that what we’re looking for?

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The manager

has very little to do with the team performance. He just has to hold ppl accountable and not be an idiot or an arrogant ass like Buck or LaRussa

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well shit Jesus

it’s not hard, put names in the lineup, don’t buy into your own hype.

Fuck it, let’s just hire Greg Popovich from the Spurs.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

and knows which ones are good at hitting a baseball

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rob Neyer

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Jackie Moore would be the interim guy

And then Nolan would hire someone on a permanent basis after the season.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wanna bet?

At the very least, he’s going to be very involved in the decision-making process on who to hire.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

i’ll bet that Nolan won’t be the one hiring the new manager.

of course he will be involved, but it’s JD’s decision…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD had his chance to hire a manager

and made a very bad choice, then compounded the problem by sticking with him this offseason, declaring “I’m a Ron Washington man!”. He doesn’t deserve a third chance to hire a manager.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 18, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

the owner was fully on board with wash as well

from what ive read it was a consensus decision.
really though would the team be any better off with any of the other candidates?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Josey so much

You’re really going to hang JD for saying “I’m a Ron Washington man” last year? He tried showing some confidence in his manager and was treated to crap instead. Let it go.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bill James

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can wish all we want,

but it will be the new GM’s job at the end of the season. JD will probably be gone after this thing falls on it’s ass again.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I think it's pretty well set as Jackie Moore as interim

Instead of rushing in to try to find anyone, let Moore ride out the year – he’s 70 and obviously not the future. Now you have time to consider everyone available during the off season. Hopefully JD will be gone by then so you have a chance of a baseball decision being made by a baseball person. We missed the boat by not getting Trey Hillman – Revo was right.

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

what the hell?
We missed the boat by not getting Trey Hillman – Revo was right.

Have you seen his KC team play or read a single article about how bad he’s been? He could have actually been worse than the worsh

by bushe on Apr 18, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why yes....

I watched his KC team kick the crap out of our Rangers only last night. By the way KC is in first place in their division.

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet, once again you don't hold JD accountable

by calling for his head.
He hired a below-average manager, and then he provided him with a less than mediocre cadre of pitchers, the quality of which has digressed annually.
Wash doesn’t do a great job of managing, but you simply can’t blame him for the pitching.

You all need to quit scapegoating the players, the pitchers, and Wash.
JD is responsible for all of them, and he continually demonstrates that he doesn’t know what he is doing. Are you willing to let JD assemble another poor list of candidates, and then actually choose the next manager of the Rangers?

if your answer is Yes, you are just a stubborn JD buttkisser.
If you say No, then you fire or demote him.

This thing needs a capable major league GM before this awesdome offense is totally wasted.

I'm just killing time until I'm reincarnated.

by Clueless on Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's see

I say his manager sucks, and I say it is a black eye for him for putting together a crappy group of candidates.

But because I’m not demanding Daniels be fired, I’m not holding him accountable?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're an ignorant fool.

“JD … continually demonstrates that he doesn’t know what he is doing.”

Hmm… Hamilton trade, Texiera trade, bringing our minor league program for 30th to 1st in 2 years, and more. All this before his 29th birthday.

Get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an even bigger waste of air and water.

by choisne on Apr 18, 2009 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course he is right - JD does not know what he's doing.

Hard to believe anyone still has to be convinced. JD was never up to this job. I’m sure he is smart and a nice person but never GM material. You can look up his background yourself if you don’t know it. The real thing is a lot different from winning your roto-league. A GM must do three things well: 1. Consistently make good free agent signings, 2. Be able to trade major league talent for major league talent that can make a difference in the big club, and 3. Build a quality farm system. JD failed so badly at the first two that he retreated into buidling a farm system that was so young he couldn’t be judged until somewhere in the 2010-2014 range. It was all about job preservation, so yes, he’s a bright guy I’ll give you that since he’s still here when after three and half years and he has put another bad Ranger team on the field.

As to his trading, I’m not as impressed as some. You have to remember we have lost some star players (Tex, Sori, and AROD when JD was a supposedly a top assistant) and we have lost numerous very good players like A Gonzalez, C. Young, Danks, and A. Gallagra and several others. After all this what do we have at the major league level – hope for the future. I don’t think you can claim the Hamilton deal as win for JD, everyone pretty much considers that a wash, maybe not even looking as good for us now.

Our farm system looks good but there is absolutely no guarantee it will result in a Ranger team that wins anything down the road for a lot of reasons we can go into if you like. We need top quality leadership at the top if this organization is going to be succesful – Wash and JD must go, and it would be nice to see new ownership as well.

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll go with your three responsibilities of a GM, even though I don’t think they’re completely accurate. JD came into Arlington with knowing that what they were doing just wasn’t working. They were still losing, and losing alot. The whole lot of them decided to scrap and start over, trading all the big names for minor league prospects so that they wouldn’t be so highly dependent on the big trades in the future. He definitely didn’t “retreat” into a minor league system philosophy, it was his philosophy from the beginning to start from the ground up. As for the big trades, the Tex trade was a win hands down, the Hambone trade definitely isn’t a wash, I don’t know what you are smoking, and the Arod trade was imperative, as he was a parasite to team unity and effectiveness. Lets face it, that guy is the tool of all tools.
I’d agree Wash needs to be gone, but JD is so much more of an asset than any of you guys on this “Bash the Rangers to feel good about ourselves” site could quantify. This site seriously is the most pessimistic stuff in the world.

by choisne on Apr 18, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your three things a GM must do well is wrong

FA signings are a very small part of a GMs job. How many FAs do you expect a GM to sign each offseason? You really think one of the most important things a GM has to do well is make 2-4 perfect FA signings each year? You won’t find a single GM then that can do that. And the same thing with the trades. GMs just don’t make that many trades involving only ML players on both sides. And if your criteria for being a good GM means never making a bad trade, then you’re again looking at no good GMs throughout the league. I do agree with your 3rd point being a critical job of a GM.

As for your criticisms of JD, again, pointless. You’re going to blame him for the A-Rod trade? JD wasn’t the assistant GM until Fuson left in July that year, well after A-Rod was already gone. His job before that was assistant director of baseball operations. It looks like Josh Boyd has that job now. Are you going to blame Boyd if JD makes a bad trade? Tex was traded for one of the best hauls in recent memory. We replaced him with Chris Davis and possibly Justin Smoak in the very near future. You are probably the only person alive who would regret that deal in any way. We lost a year of Soriano, I’m so sad about that…And that Hamilton deal, have you seen Volquez this year? Ever since the second half of last season, Volquez is looking much more like the pitcher we thought we were trading away rather than the pitcher Cinncy had for the first half last year. If anything, that deal is considered more of a win now for the Rangers. I’m not going to defend all of JD’s moves because some of them are just bad deals that shouldn’t have been made or deals that have turned out very poorly. That is on Daniels. But you can’t possibly ignore the great deals he has made as well. Oh wait, you just blamed Jon Daniels for trading A-Rod.

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by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again....

We have lost a lot of talent not to have any proven major leaguers on the big team. Like most everyone else in here I want to see the Rangers win but doubt that looks good in the long run without top level management. You both retreat to the farm system in your defense of JD and I think the farm system is great – let’s make JD farm director.

However, the reality is that we have lost all these players and cannot say the prospects will ever deliver. With the exception of Hamilton the we have no proven major leaguers and the cost was high for him. Glad we have the prospects, but the problem is that the A’s system is just about as loaded and they have a much better track record of developing pitchers. The Angels and even the Mariners will spend money to get talent – something we are told Hicks won’t do unless it’s a “special” talent. How does all this result in the dynasty that we keep hearing about.

I admit I am pessimistic about putting so many eggs in the farm system basket. I think about our first wave of savior pitchers – DVD, followed closely by Hurley. The fact is that so many things can happen with prospects – and do. I have read accounts where baseball people predict that less than one in ten top prospects ever really become difference makers. Too many barriers – injuries, hitting the ceiling on talent in minors, bad trades, make-up and on and on. You like to talk about his great deals as if they have had already had an impact on the Rangers – maybe in three or four years they will look like great deals but it’s just a guess at this point.

At some point you have to deal with reality and the fact is that JD has been at the helm for three and half years and it looks like we have another bad team in 2009. After so many bad decisions I remember writers saying how JD must get his choice for the new manager right or it would be the last straw. Apparently there are no last straws for JD supporters.

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by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not my point on AROD

I didn’t blame JD for the AROD trade – as I said he was a top assistant at the time -baseball operations assistant in 2002 and Director of Baseball Operations in 2003. I think he had a place at the table and don’t know, but assume he was impressing people with his valuable input since he was GM by 2005. I did not say he traded AROD.

I agree that AROD needed to be traded. He was toxic and thought he was the manager. But we traded the top player in baseball in the collective wisdom of the time finds us with nothing to show for it a few years later. We also have traded two other stars, as I noted, that were clearly on JD’s watch and have no stars to show for it. I missed your response to the other players I mentions – Gonzalez, Young, Danks, Galarraga. With all the talent we have sent to other teams we should have a few studs on the Rangers to show for it.

As for Hamilton, I would not undo that deal, I think Hamilton has the potential to be a star if he can stay focused and clean. I think he will. I do think we would have been better off with Volquez in our rotation and Torii Hunter in CF, but to be fair I have to put that more on penny pinching Hicks.

I hope you are right about the prospects and they turn the team around in the next few seasons – it’s been a long time since I got to see the Rangers in a post season game.

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by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do we as a community have any faith in Jackie Moore?

I just want to get a few opinions….

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by Martijn1309 on Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

To quote Sgt. Schultz

I know nothing!

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby V.?

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

arm slagger, veteran lover, general bad guy.

You don’t want a name guy with this team. Someone new, someone smart

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Matt Walbeck?

Oh wait. We fired him because he didn’t “gel” with Wash. Whoops.

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is who I was really thinking about

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

walbeck

he’s the guy i really wanted to take over if wash got the boot, but then wash had to go and give him the boot

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by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ironic huh!

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by Ed Coffin on Apr 18, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know Rusty Greer!

Or Gabe Kapler he has managed a minor league team.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That'd be hilarious

if he managed us while playing for the rays

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a little TV set up in the dugout

and on the phone between innings.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no doubt about that.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just don't ask him to hit

Nick Swisher

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like we got at the GM position?

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by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the summary

I didn’t get to listen to, watch, or follow the game on the net, but am home for about an hour now. Sounds like Mgr Washington made the normal major blunders tonight. And I personally feel that he should not be with the team after Tuesday; however, getting rid of Washington so early in the season would be an instant death blow to Daniels, too. If, after 12 games, the Rangers fire Washington, they are admitting they made the mistake of not doing the same thing 12 games ago at the end of the 2008 season. This is no minor mistake not having a new manager for the team over the entire long offseason. The only way I see Washington gone this early is if Nolan Ryan fires both Washington and Daniels as a package.

by Mark from OC on Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think Nolan would fire JD

they DO have quite the farm system

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Apr 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Daniels is safe

I think he has the support of Hicks and Ryan.

I don’t think Wash does, though, and Wash getting fired is going to result in Daniels losing some face.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree,

like in most corporations, you need to have someone with some rank (manager) take the fall and let the higher ups keep their job.

by Jea103 on Apr 17, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Firing Wash may be deserved [since last years start of the season], but firing JD would be bordeline mentally retarded.

by choisne on Apr 18, 2009 4:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

something good from the game

Salty got a hit. A HR to boot… off a LHP. CD also got a hit. Some guy named Elvis only batting .357 in the show. And Hank had 2 hits.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

RM, I love your enthusiasm

and am usually looking for the silver lining like this, but I’m over it. I’m ready to blow this bitch up.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty...

also had 3 K’s. CD didn’t really look good either imo but I think he will be fine, just off to a slow start. Salty I’m worried about.

Andrus has been great so far this year.

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by slc ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have been a defender of Daniels

but the assembling of this team is terrible. If Hicks did not specifically draw the line on salaries(precluding any BP signings) then Daniels probably should be gone as well for putting this mess of a BP together. I can understand not paying exorbitant money for starters, but with the value of RP falling, it is inexcusable.

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by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe RW pinch hit

for MY and Hamilton as a way of trying to make them accountable for thier ABs. I didn’t think MY was having any poor at bats but Hamilton needs to rethink his approach.

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by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

He didn't PH for Hamilton

Murphy came in for Hamilton in the top of the 8th.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJM

so jackie moore is your short term answer….what about long term…

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Art Howe is available

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"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Long term

I don’t know. I thought Walbeck would be the longer-term guy, but he got canned.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

possiblity of him coming back to take over??

i’m putting that at slim to nil

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by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's easier said than done but

if a change is made this early in the year it would be nice to get the next “long term” guy in here right away. Otherwise you go into 2010 with a new guy in the year when the rangers are supposed to be ready to contend. But as I say, this may not be possible.

by Jea103 on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Don Wakamatsu?

Oh….never mind.

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by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Are we really still

pining over Hillman? Really?

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being better than shit

does not make you non-shit.

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoopidty fucking do

let’s make the ML season 1 game then, because that’s how we make our decisions here on LSB

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

huh duh

I was simply following the Wakamatsu post. Anything would have been better. Royals sure are looking horrible thus far this season and I’m sure everyone on their boards are calling for his head.

by thirdold on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are

actually. Check out Joe Posnanski, Rany on the Royals and Royals Review.

General consensus – God, I fucking hate that guy.

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most Royals fans aren't calling for Trey Hillman's head

There are things to complain about (both real and imagined), but most Royals fans think he’s an ok manager. Not awful, but nothing to write home about. And, on balance, this has been the opinion of both JoPo and Rany.

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by Scott McKinney on Apr 18, 2009 5:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

What the hell?

This guy rolled out Tony Pena Jr. last year for 235 PAs and a total of a SEVEN OPS+.

My lord, you have got to be kidding me.

by jwiscarson on Apr 17, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he played Ross Gload

instead of red hot prospect Kila Kai’huie during September. This is the type of manager I want for this team – filled with young players and veterans

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding.

The amount of knee-jerk groupthink in this thread makes me sad to be a Rangers fan. I suppose all these guys who think Wash is the antichrist also think that Joe Torre won all those WS titles with the Yanks by himself?

by jwiscarson on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hillman blows.

His results with the Royals last year might be worse than Wash’s.

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

um

you will be proven wrong

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by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

How?

His managing skills are poor and there was a lot of friction between him and the players last year. He’s Wash, only without the people skills.

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

at least

the guy won in Japan showing he has some mgmt capabilities. Hiring Wash was a complete shot in the dark/leap of faith.

Hillman had a better track record in my opinion and I think the two teams records this year will bear out who is the better mgr.

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Whoever has the better record this year has the better manager?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

but it will aid in the discussion…..

Curious if you want a do over on your belief that The Rangers staff would reduce there runs allowed this year by 100 or so? I cant remember the discussion verbatim but Josey and I were saying this thing wouldnt pitch any better than last year and you assured us that it would…..you even seemed to ridicule the notion that they could duplicate last years #’s

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, first of all

I didn’t assure you that they’d pitch better than last year. I don’t generally speak in absolutes on issues like that. I’m a lawyer, after all. I said I expected that they would.

And yeah, I’ll stick by my prediction of 860 runs allowed.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

short sample

and all…..but what is their current pace?

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by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

1,199(current pace)

That would be amazing to see in technicolor, or HD.

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by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

I certainly don’t think Wash is great, but he had a stellar league-wide rep as a great defensive guy. I recall the post-interview comments about Wash bowling them over as well, and although I do think they were caught up in his ability to speak and a fresh perspective, I also think that JD expected to have someone come in who could bring a new set of skills to the table.

Previous managerial experience is total crap, in my opinion. Your hard personnel decisions are: not posting a crappy lineup and substituting properly in blowouts/tight games when platoons matter. A flowchart could manage a baseball team.

by jwiscarson on Apr 17, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice......
A flowchart could manage a baseball team.

Ian Kinsler..... yea, he's good at baseball.

by b.pate on Apr 18, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not everyone was on board with the Wash hiring

I know I wasn’t and certainly Revo wasn’t. Most just went along to try to support the new guy. It’s true Wash had a bad record managing in the minors but I agree thats not necessarily a big deal. What concerned me was two things: most importantly, the A’s, the team that knew him best did not consider him manager material for their opening, and second, I have trouble thinking someone is really sharp when they do to the English language what Wash does.

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by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hillman interviewed with more than one team before

in, I think, more than one year before he got the KC job. Something was turning people off about him and that might be the cause of the friction mentioned by LS Jon. Right or wrong, he wears his faith on his sleeve and that can be a turnoff to some. I believe he interviewed for 3 manager jobs the year we hired RW and he didn’t get any of them. I don’t think he’s the answer, but neither is Wash.

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by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

he didn't realize until Sept. the players didn't speak Japanese

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by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!

Nice.

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Haren is uuupset, he’s only thrown 79 pitches through 6 and is pitching extremely well, and was yanked for a PH…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

The NL is so retarded.

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

they should add another rule

you get one chance a game to ph for a pitcher, yet that pitcher can go back out the next inning…

i should be commish.

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

thats really dumb

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by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Harrison

is absolutely horrible and I see know reason for him to be in a Major League starting rotation.

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by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

said earlier

looked like Gabbard out there….nibbled and was afraid to challenge inside

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

that the thought

I had….Gabbard/Koronka redux.

Can NO one make these pitchers through strikes. I’ve heard Wash say we are “going to pound the zone” a million times but the results are the same year after year….

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by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

did I really

type through instead of throw? Oh dear….

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by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I second that.

Maybe we can give him another year as a Sophomore in High School to get his ERA back under 4.00.

by choisne on Apr 18, 2009 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

i want someone

the most like Mike Soscia….smart game manager, asshole, and knows how to manage a pitching staff………..

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Mike Soscia

his team just gave up 7 runs in the 8th to lose 11-9.

Fire Soscia!

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh come on

you look at what he’s done over there….you can’t be serious..I hate the guy because he’s on a rival, , but at the same time, I respect him…he is a great in game manager….and regarded league wide as so……

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is a terrible manager

He gets great results because he has great pitching. Just listen to him talk about offensive strategy.

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by Gdawg on Apr 17, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I think he’s a pretty good manager

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a good manager because he knows how to run a pitching staff.

And he’s always had a very good pitching staff, up until this month. But offensively he and his “small ball” strategies are kind of weak.

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by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he was great on The Simpsons

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re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's fun for people in the baseball community I most associate with to mock Scioscia.

But I’m with Adam, I think he’s pretty good. I’d prefer a vegetable who sits there and does what the GM tells him to do on my team, but as far as decision makers, Scioscia is more helpful than hurtful I think. And part of the reason the Angels consistently outperform projections and performance evaluations.

He’s also not the one telling Angels players to hack away at everything.

by philkid3 on Apr 18, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean like his awesome managing

in the post season?

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

would love

to have wash mismanage this team in the post season

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would rather

my manager didn’t over manage at all.

Managers have very little to do with a team’s success beyond basic shit like not pinch hitting for Michael Young with the bases loaded.

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not serious.

That was pretty obvious.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't ruin this

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by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want someone

nothing like Mike scioscia

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by Gdawg on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda is out there

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
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by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Can I ask anybody right now?"

“Can I call my mom and tell her I love her?”

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

classic

‘ohh, cash, I’m impressed’
‘saw my pimp today’

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by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sugar, Mr. Poon?

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by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

face it

there is not one good manager in all of baseball…we will find faults with anyone.

the perfect one would be a sabermetric coach potato guy, but then, if you do get one of those, players will most likely not respect him…

so, u just hope the next manager doesn’t screw it up as much as the previous ones, that’s all you can hope for now…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's see

(good post LH). Wash is mentally incompetent and out of touch with in play situations. Hillman is purely a douche (after the flush) no matter how he handles the Royals. Garner is an arm slagger and stubborn in a number of ways. Jackie Moore was old before I got old. Bobby V (who I think is a helluva good tactical manager) fails Adam’s arm slagging benchmark. Evereybody currently managing or coaching in MLB has known drawbacks.

Match that up with Noan’s approach to the game, and the fact that JD is staying too and it comes down to just the guy we’ve got in the bullpen now. Andy Hawkins. He hasn’t gotten good results from the pen (mostly from lack of talent available), but got high marks for his work in the minors.

Give the job to Andy – he really hasn’t alienated anybody.

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by Ed Coffin on Apr 17, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

funny thing is

i dont have a problem with this… I just want a guy who gives our players a pat on the butt, fills out the lineup card with semi-logical lineups and then gets the fucking hell out of the way… All this managing with your gut shit and giving veterans ABs just because they are vets is gonna kill so many brain cells im gonna be punch drunk for the rest of my life.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 18, 2009 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is Earl Weaver's body still available?

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

:(

Why RW pinch hit for MY… he told Omar he was going to get the AB before inning started. KRLD will have MY’s reactionat 11:40.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

* KRLD FM

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm pissed

only cause it cost me some fantasy points.

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip

I’m tuning in now.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby Jones?

What about him as manager?

by bstair on Apr 17, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

BJ

for Bench coach, make Moore the manager for the interim.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Popovich

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:11 PM CDT reply actions  

how about

Jim Tracy or Grady Little?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

NO RETREADS

Ok guys, new rule.

If you’ve heard of him, he’s probably a bad choice.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

James Swanson

I have no idea who the hell he is. I just made that name on the spot. This guy must be the best manager in baseball history.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 17, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to the U.S. Census

Or at least some website that claims to have information gleaned from the U.S. Census…

There are 7 people named Chauncey McGillicuddy in America. I say we get one of them. Particularly because the backs of the jerseys will look cool when Salty is standing next to him.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I say we go for a promotional angle

And hire a different celebrity manager each week. First up: Simon Cowell.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Donald Trump

Can’t you see it, a pitcher sucks it up and the Trump goes out there and points his finger ans says “You’re fired!”

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gordon Ramsey

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome

Him getting up in FOTF’s face and calling him a stupid f——- donkey.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greatness

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can picture that

I would pay to see Gordon up in FOTF’s face.

by Dor12 on Apr 18, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Padilla v. Ramsey?

Who wins that battle?

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well played sir

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because there's a reason

why the majority of those guys don’t have jobs don’t have jobs.

Mostly, they suck

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a difference

between no opportunity and sucking cock.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you roll the dice

again with a rookie manager?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

this time you just add one question – do you manage with your gut? If they answer is yes, they lose.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Catalanotto

Since you are paying him anyway.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Maddux just retired

He is a smart guy and maybe Mike could get him here.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

i kinda like this

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not really a bad idea

I say in my drunken stupor.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't even started drinking yet

Maybe that’s why I say it’s too early to fire Washington without axing Daniels at the same time?

by Mark from OC on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby Knight

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Ned Flanders

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

JOE MORGAN!!

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve Phillips

he can tell a pitch speed by getting hit by one.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Max Kellerman

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

And for the record...

…the two Austin Powers movies are two of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.

There may be more than two, I don’t know, but I saw the first two, and they were terrible.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah...

I watched the first in high school and thought it was all manner of hilarious. I recently re-watched it and was embarrassed to have ever considered it anything above gutter trash.

by jwiscarson on Apr 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I can’t believe I spent 20 bucks buying it.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried to watch one once

Got up and walked out after about 20 minutes.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had it on good authority

from my (at the time) 11 year old nephew that Austin Powers was the greatest movie of all time.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really? I thought the first one was pretty damn funny.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course you did

it had robots (fembots). An important part of any great Dirkatron movie.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I loved the Dr. Evil parts more than anything.

The Militant Wing of the Salvation Army.

“Who does number two work for!?”

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked them

before they became quoted every 5 seconds. By the time the third one came out, each joke was so played out I wanted to walk out of the movie 20 minutes in.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Max Power

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's dead.

Might be an improvement

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

talk about an arm-slagger

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

BB rules.

Arguing with Josey is like pissing in the wind.

by Ryin A on Apr 18, 2009 5:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't give a shit i guess......

lets just make a management change just for the sake of making a statement…we’ll worry about long term after that

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions  

andro on the situation
The logic behind pulling Michael Young explained

That was the hot topic after the game. Manager Ron Washington said he wanted to get both Young and Josh Hamilton off their feet. Young said he didn’t question the manager’s decision. He said his job was to play until he’s told not to. But why do you pull Young with the bases loaded for Omar Vizquel. Young knew Vizquel was coming into the game but didn’t find out he wasn’t going to hit until he was in the hole. Is this a big deal or not? Can this hurt the club?

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Nails

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bert Blyleven

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Dykstra...

…is the reason Hicks is having cash flow problems…he’s been using Dykstra as his investment advisor.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

For realz?

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jose Canseco

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Classic baseball bloopers

Ball on head

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big poison and little poison

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Selleck

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Selleck's moustache

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Costner

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gay

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Randall Gay?

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ben Gay

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rodeo Star

Donnie Gay

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Selleck's chest hair.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too hard

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what she said

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jack Elliot

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

T.S. Elliot

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

if by getting punched in the face it results in me waking up from a coma and black gallagher is no longer managing…but yeah..jk about Willie

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Willie Bloomquist.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 17, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will Clark

Davey Lopes
Don Mattingly’s crazy-azz ex-wife

by shroomer on Apr 17, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

fails firebat's

retread test

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kim Ng

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions  

For manager

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

This thread

serious business

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

yes

because all the names here are legitimate ones…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

With you.

You could have a thread titled “SARCASM HERE PLZ” and I still wouldn’t be able to tell.

by LiamP on Apr 17, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Her mustache begs to differ.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Deion Sanders

“at what level”

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

"Fornicating was my drug"

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 17, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

World B Free

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Correct me if I am wrong

No one has said the top head manager of all time who is available as of yesterday.

Yes, I am talking about Frank Caliendo.

by Mark from OC on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Frank Caliendo

doing his John Madden Impression

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can be

Bench Coach

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dan Reeves

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

but does

he want to work 40 hours a week?

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davey Johnson

he just auditioned for a job right?

by thirdold on Apr 17, 2009 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

tomorrow?

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

when they come back from commercial

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is interestin'

my watch says we are coming up on 11:40pm

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll put it on online

But I can’t imagine he’s going to say anything other than the Crash Davis cliches.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

did u

just go out outside?

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree... if he was

going to say anything about it, he would have done it after the game

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just want to go out and, God willing, help the ballclub...

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it online?

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Billy Haywood

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

this

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Juan Morillo

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Tom Bergen

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Rod Blagojevich

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

might make a gm

actually make someone pay The Rangers to manage…..

 I think Hicks would like his style.
Rod to Hicks, “Excuse me sir, I thought I’d let you know we just fired Wash and brought in Richard Branson to manage the big club. He’s paying us 3 mill a season and I locked him up for 5 years.”

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone know where I can

find the team pitching projections for the Rangers

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

My last thought for the night:

How about the guy whose name is on this website?

Erik
Thompson

Time to hit the club, have fun! (hopefully this exit is better than George Costanza’s)

by Mark from OC on Apr 17, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Might be interesting

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes a shitload of sense to me.

- Interviewed for the Seattle job, narrowly missing out to Wak.
- Has a history with the Rangers.
- Managed OKC for a year or so (as well as a couple of the Boston minor league teams), so he should be able to handle minor leaguers.

by LiamP on Apr 17, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm more concerned

with approach at this pt. Everyone had a pretty shiny resume coming in.

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no fucking clue what his approach is.

Hale seems like a good candidate to at least interview based on the resume alone.

by LiamP on Apr 17, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is he still with the Sox?

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

by sprite on Apr 17, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be against it.

He seems like a good baseball man.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

by sprite on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll be in the offseason anyways

I bet we just roll with J-Moore when we can wash

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet we just roll with J-Moore when we can wash

Agree.

by LiamP on Apr 17, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

MY doesn't sound happy at all...

“wash wants to get Omar in there”

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:42 PM CDT reply actions  

i.e

bullshit taking me out…

by kmoneytime on Apr 17, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

tough to argue with him.

No way that makes any sense with bases loaded. If it was bases empty it would be odd, but you could see a surrender flag move, but why surrender after you got 3 on with a franchise that can hang a 10 spot at almost any time?

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lil Kim

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 17, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Are those real?

/sarcasm.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

as real as our playoff chancez

zing!

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Longhorn

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Championship

Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell, lets get Josey for Managers

Or hell, get Miles in as manager. Hes got a reputation to uphold….the players will know his status

That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....

by SCDP on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

George W. Bush for manager

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Need to have a playoff

edition of Arrested Tuesday before the playoffs. It’s good karma.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

by sprite on Apr 17, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Dude...

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 11:51 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

The Dude would not put up with this crap...

Especially if Harrison cried on his rug.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 17, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

…now that I think about it, Walter might be a better choice.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Walter seems like he'd be a better bench coach...

his temper would get in the way as manager.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Walter would be a kick-ass manager.

Every time he went to pull one of the miserable pitchers he could just start screaming:

“YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT MATT”

"LSB: We’re all-scaploading, all the time." -AJM

by BAC on Apr 18, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quinn Buckner

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 17, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

ajm

what’s wrong with wak or john russell?

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 17, 2009 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Both employed in management roles.

Wak is in Seattle and Russell is in Pittsburgh.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 18, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

huh?

ajm in his post said that jd didn’t put together a good list of managerial candidates…

i dont’ see much wrong with those two…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 18, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

Couldn’t track it back to the original post. You are absolutely correct. Seattle has the best ERA in the AL going into tonight’s game. There’s a reason they are 7-2 or somesuch. My bad on your post.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 18, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh, it's all good

a lot going on in this thread…

this is what i do...i guarantee.

by Longhorn on Apr 18, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Way too much.

I’m lost like a little fawn in the woods.

"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09

by EssBee on Apr 18, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

her

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 18, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Is that Jack Black?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's supposed to be that recently discovered british singing talent that they keep splattering accross my yahoo frontpage.

Susan Boyle, apparently. Supposedly it’s a her, but… well… the evidence above speaks for itself.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 18, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmmm

in a game of which one would ya give me Jack….

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 18, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Grieve

he’s done everything else with the Rangers.

"If you can't get up for this kind of game, Lord have mercy, you might not have a heartbeat"

-Jerome Bettis

by Jason Brynsvold on Apr 18, 2009 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to see him go out and have one of his rants with someone

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not Tom, Josh

How about Josh Lewin…he thinks he knows everything anyway. Perfect pick for manager

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Apr 18, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

2010 Rangers manager

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 18, 2009 12:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Kermit for bench coach...

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's already ready to put up with the rest of the season...

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kermit's a smooth mofo

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 18, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hiding from the media or detoxing?

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 18, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh...

this thread: better than the thread about backup shortstops?

Think it was this one: http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/13/720095/more-jon-daniels-quotes-on

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Apr 18, 2009 12:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Nope

Not even close. That thread was greatness personified.

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 18, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the win?

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 1:30 AM CDT reply actions  

24 sucks my wrinkly man-balls.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 18, 2009 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

my guess is

that the last episode had someone inside CTU passing information to the terrorists, and a huge government conspiracy forcing Jack to act alone.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

false!

jack hasn’t killed anyone in hours and while there may or may not be a prominent double agent, there was no passing of info =p

Of course, both those things have happened about 4 times so far. Last season sucked and this one was bad for a while, but its been pretty good for a while now.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 18, 2009 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Season's 2 and 5 where the height of the show, IMO

Season 2 probably being the best.

Season 5 was pretty good though, at least I thought. That one kept me glued till the end, even though it got a bit over-the-top at times (the CTU-gets-filled-with-nerve-gas-but-Jack-and-all-the-key-stars-manage-to-survive episode might’ve been the hokiest hour of the entire show).

Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 18, 2009 5:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

24

last season really bit the big one, this season started slow but really picked up.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jose Oquendo for manager in 2010

I’m a Cardinals homer, yes. But I think Jose will be a solid manager in MLB if given the chance.

by Hard8 on Apr 18, 2009 2:37 AM CDT reply actions  

x

I think the decision is entirely in Nolan’s hands at this point. And, firing Wash, would immediately put JD on the hot seat – he desperately needs a young pitcher to succeed at the major league level.

While Moore seems the likely interim successor, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Maddux either – Moore might simply be too old for the job.. Whoever it is, it will be one of Nolan’s guys.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 18, 2009 7:00 AM CDT reply actions  

And if a manager comes in...

it will take very little time for this board (and the newberg board) to start bitching about what a horrible manager he is.

by Redcaps on Apr 18, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Both boards would probably benefit

if you were to stop posting there.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn...

you’re still alive Cahill? I thought you’d died of old age by now.

by Redcaps on Apr 18, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Hicks

Anyone think Hicks should have used that 10 million on a pitcher instead of overseas

by Unclejim on Apr 18, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Salty sucks

He’s worse than Laird at stabbing at the ball and he is a bad hitter.

by JTodd on Apr 18, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

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