Holland is here, Rupe DFA'd
by boomer1 on Apr 18, 2009 3:14 PM CDT
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Per Evan Grant Holland is up and Rupe has been DFA'd. So it begins, one has to wonder when Happy Happy gets a call up. I would much rather lose while the kids get their learning curve out of the way this year. This is an exciting time to be a Rangers fan after that debacle last night. Now we are left wondering when the hammer drops on Wash. I really don't think Washington last through next week.
UPDATE BY AJM -- Z has a write-up on Holland at the DMN blog.
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Shit.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 18, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And...
if Holland was called up to be in the ’pen why not get rid of Eddie?
I hate this. You don’t rush a guy who is one of the future pieces of the team to try and save the ’pen. I absolutely hate this move. He needs to be starting in OKC for at least a couple more months.
If Wash has anything to do with this in trying to save his job then fuck him. Fire him right now. Although I think it’s more likely Nolan and JD’d decision and I’m not happy about it at all.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 18, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Coach Washington inspires me to be an hero.
by lonestarJon on Apr 18, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, that was a little quick,
does he go right into the rotation or are they gonna use him as a bullpen piece for now.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Apr 18, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like the Bullpen
With Rupe going down
That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....
by Smoak Some on Apr 18, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be my guess as well
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
by boomer1 on Apr 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got to be.
I am stunned. Read via twitter, booted up computer and came straight here. Holy shit.
by FuturePants on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not very happy about this
seems like a knee jerk reaction to me. I would prefer to see Holland get 3 or 4 more starts in AAA
by laxtonto on Apr 18, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well we will see
I’m kind of glad to see him. After that train wreck last night they are atleast showing that if you can’t pitch you will be replaced.
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
by boomer1 on Apr 18, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT. WOW.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY CRAP! Wasn't expecting that today...
Guess the new era is here.
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Rupe will be claimed?
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
by boomer1 on Apr 18, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not unless his mother is in the bidding.. he sucks
Josh Hamilton puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you but once he gets his pants on he hits baseballs 420 feet.
by BigGuns on Apr 18, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't care
if he is.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not
Nolan has said that his preference is to start Holland and Feliz in the pen this year. Rupe had nothing left, which is sad. There was a point last season when I thought that guy might have it in him to step up and be an 8th inning guy. The Old School Brotha, though, wore that guy out and he had nothing this year. Last night, I was there and Rupe was just serving it up for the Royals.
"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo
by kentbenfer on Apr 18, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Feels way too early.
Am I wrong to absolutely not trust Wash with Holland right now?
Are we going to need to rewrite to Joba rules for RW?
by Keynes on Apr 18, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
x
Are we going to need to rewrite to Joba rules for RW?
Yes.
Or just fire him and find someone that knows how to handle a staff…
by N41D on Apr 18, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which was the logical extension of my question
in that, if you do have to write out exactly how to use Holland, and in doing so give another hat to JD/Nolan, doesn’t that pretty much write off Washington completely?
Also worried about Holland’s innings management. Wish he could use this year to build towards 200 ML innings next year.
Actually praying someone puts in a tape of Price in the playoffs last year as the template to use Holland for a while, then kick Anna & Kris out of Arlington.
by Keynes on Apr 18, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Benson will be gone soon enough..
I’d venture to guess once Derek proves he can handle this jump from the pen, and they get far enough into the season that they feel like they can get his inning totals where they want them, they’ll transition him right back to the rotation…
by N41D on Apr 18, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of this move
Seems like we are desperate to get something going. Even if he is going into the bullpen, I would have like to see him work some more in AAA getting some starts then coming up at the Break, but i guess its time.
I guess the question is is whats going to be his role in the pen? Are they going to get him in a lot of games or not? Blowout wins/losses or close games? Long relief or 7/8/9 guy?
That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....
by Smoak Some on Apr 18, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...
no doubt they are desperate. Looks like jobs are on the line.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Apr 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exceptttttttttt
I don’t think Nolan’s job is on the line, and he would have probably had the last say in this.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exceptttttt
I think you are totally correct in this matter. Lets get them up and see what happens.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
by horsedooty on Apr 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does this affect his service time?
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Starts the clock, for sure.
Cue Marissa Tomei from My Cousin Vinny.
by Keynes on Apr 18, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Apr 18, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some answers to Holland questions
I’ve posted a few, including the service time issue. He won’t be free until 2015.
by Evan Grant on Apr 18, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Holland send out a tweet to announce this?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only cj's tweets get reported on
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, my mistake
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Begins ticking now
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean do we get seven or six years?
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
I would like to know this as well.
Anyone?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 18, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they needed to keep guys in the minors for 3 weeks
total during the season. If he comes up now, I don’t think it’s out of the question that he’ll get sent down at some point during the season.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
though...
…by missing the first two weeks i believe it pushes back his arbitration eligibilty by a year… the same thing they refused to do to elvis.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Apr 18, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Isn’t likely to have any impact on his arbitration eligibility.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't usually disagree with ya...
but i’m pretty sure about that one.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Apr 18, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's almost a lock to be a Super 2
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true.
but i thought thursday was the deadline regarding service time.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
by ivysafety39 on Apr 18, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is
It impacts his free agency eligibility, not arbitration.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That involves free agency, rather than arbitration.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 18, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this
the pear is not yet ripe
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Apr 18, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh no...
I fear another Volquez situation…and on the other end of the spectrum, David Price. This reeks of RW trying to save his job and Nolan trying to get butt’s in the seats (“The New Era of Ranger Baseball is Here”). I’m scared.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Way too soon
don’t let Wash’s desperation rule your roster management JD
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 18, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scenario?
JD: Wash, any last request before we lock the meeting room door and decide your fate?
Wash: Yeah, give me some talent. Don’t judge me by the meatballs you put on this roster.
I want Holland – NOW!!
by shroomer on Apr 18, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm picturing it like the scene in Elf
where Andy Richter pitches the idea of hiring another writer. Only sadder and scarier and with more Wash-speak instead of English.
by Keynes on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAH DANIELS ASS IS ON THE LINE TOO!
by oc on Apr 18, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I’m not sure if I agree with this move or not but it seems like a lot of you are over-reacting to the news. If his fastball velocity is 95ish and his off-speed stuff is as good as advertised, he should be fine.
by hiafex on Apr 18, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
Lots of overreacting. People baby these rookies too much,. If you’re going to suck, you may as well bring them up so they can learn against real hitters. If they’re so mentally weak they can’t handle that, they were going to fail anyway. Fuck it.
And bringing a rookie up to pitch is supposed to save the manager’s job? HOW? Rookies usually struggle. That’s what they do. Front office knows that.
by Black Francis on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I second this
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
by boomer1 on Apr 18, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some said a 20 yo SS wasn't ready yet
Apples and oranges I know but…
Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
by boomer1 on Apr 18, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This provided to my thought process
If the rookie has the right mental capacity then he should be able to succeed.
by hiafex on Apr 18, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree totally!
How often have we had true blue-chip, front line prospects, with awesome stuff and terrific makeup? Guys like that, future “aces,” don’t need to be coddled. You say, “Hell kid, we believe in you. Now go kick some ass.”
The only pitcher we’ve ever had with this kind of up-side is Kevin Brown, and he was a college guy.
The A’s have an idea of how to handle the Hollands and Felizs of the world…you stick them in your rotation, particularly if there’s nothing better to offer. Better than spending money on a bunch of shitty free-agent retreads.
by Bats and Balls on Apr 18, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
I would have rather seen Diamond or Moscoso, but I’m totally okay with this. Rupe, at minimum, had to go.
Holland was going to be here sooner rather than later anyway, and I’d be willing to bet at least one spot in the rotation is open before long as well.
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by Wes Cox on Apr 18, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AND I AM SUDDENLY INTERESTED IN BUYING TICKETS TO TONIGHTS GAME!
by oc on Apr 18, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
same
I really wish I could go
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm there.
Hope he gets to pitch and shuts the Royals down….
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 18, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no shit.
the pain I had from realizing both Holland AND Feliz wouldn’t be in Frisco to start the year is starting to become the # 1 reason I have to make my first trip out to TBiA
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 19, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much longer till Feliz is called up?
Any guesses?
by hiafex on Apr 18, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How much longer till Diamond and Moscoso are called up?
Eddie is officially on notice.
I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.
by Ajax68 on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet they give Diamond a little longer
considering he’s coming off surgery. Not sure on Moscoso.
-- Micah
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I'm a fan, and I'm a girl, but please don't call me a fangirl.
by baseballismyboyfriend on Apr 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that
he sucks
I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.
by red shoe ranger on Apr 18, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem there is
you have to assume they want to keep two lefties in the pen, and I think it’s safe to assume Holland’s only in there for a month or so. Which means, unless Gabbard or Pirate get and keep their stuff together in the interim, Eddie may be safe.
Or would they slide Harrison into the pen?
by Keynes on Apr 18, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is that safe to assume?
I can see Holland staying in the bullpen until at least the AS break
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone will need to step into the rotation before then,
and I’d bet Holland has first dibs.
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by Wes Cox on Apr 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not if...
he keeps pitching the way he has been out of the ‘pen he won’t.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 18, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Feldman gets the first shot
Feldman for Benson and then you re-evaluate when an injury comes up. Holland should only be in the rotation when you have a long-term need and I don’t see that happening anytime soon. McCarthy is looking good, Millwood and Padila aren’t going anywhere for better or worse, and Harrison shouldn’t be kicked out of the rotation anytime soon.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A guy who can eat innings and keep you in the ballgame
7 out of 10 starts.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A solid innings eater that can handle a back of the rotation slot
I just don’t think he works well out of the bullpen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5.18 ERA and .280 BAA last season...
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, that’s appealing to some… SMH
Even as a starter last year, he was very, very mediocre…
by N41D on Apr 18, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all
For a Rangers pitcher, a 5.18 ERA ain’t too shabby if you are making it past 5 innings every 5 days. Feldman was in his first year as a starter since college with completely different mechanics and throwing more innings than ever before. I saw plenty of promise in what he was doing last season and don’t see why we should be less patient with him than any other starter. Then again, there are people that want to cut Matt Harrison too.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its probably appealing to some
because thats better than 3 pitchers in the rotation now, Padilla, Benson, and Harrison.
While his ERA might be .2 higher than Padilla’s has been since he has been a ranger, his Quality start percentage is higher. I think Feldman could easily be comparable to what we’ve got out of Padilla.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that's still not any good...
And it’s still not anything that’s gonna get this team over the hump…
Long-term, Scott Feldman isn’t a starting pitcher on a quality playoff team…
by N41D on Apr 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Long-term, Scott Feldman isn’t a starting pitcher on a quality playoff team…
I don’t think you can say that definitively.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
isnt Feldman a number 4 or 5 on a playoff team? he eats innings and throws strikes for the most part? if Feldman is your #5 with 4 quality guys in front of him I think your doing ok
by blueballlefty on Apr 18, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feldman throws less strikes than your average starting pitcher
by Telegraph on Apr 18, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, I just don't think he's any good...
Nothing about his stuff is overwhelming… Puts a lot of runners on base, doesn’t strike people out… I just don’t see what the fascination with him is…
The rest of our pitching staff being extremely sub-par doesn’t change the fact that Scott Feldman isn’t a very good pitcher…
by N41D on Apr 18, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the rest of our rotation isn't good, it doesn't mean that Scott Feldman is good. Agreed.
That doesn’t mean that this team couldn’t use a pitcher like Feldman in the rotation. There isn’t any fascination with him on my part where I believe he is an ace pitcher. I just think that we are too ready to write off a 26 year old just because we are so ready to see Holland, Feliz, etc. in the rotation.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeebers.
Look up the performance of 5th starters on playoff teams in the last 5 years…and then get back with me.
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by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, his upside is a 5th starter
So what? That kind of 5th starter can be picked up for a minor league deal every offseason. You don’t worry about keeping them.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
in that I think he realistically will be a #5, but his upside has to be as high as a #3
by blueballlefty on Apr 18, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The eagerness with which folks...
…seem willing to discard Feldman continues to astonish me.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt say we should discard him
because our staff sucks and hes still among the 12 bet pitchers. and it will probably remain that way for a while.
but the guy is not a talent worthy of much wringing of hands about him being snubbed from the rotation.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must have misunderstood this
That kind of 5th starter can be picked up for a minor league deal every offseason. You don’t worry about keeping them.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ineed you ddid
im not worried about keeping him. later in the season if we have brought up diamond/moscoso and need room to bring up feliz or whatever I wouldn’t care at all about putting him through waivers to get him off the 40.
but that doens’t mean we should make any kind of effort to get rid of him just to do it. i don’t want to “discard” him specifically.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except he's not going to clear waivers
You either have to trade him or let him get claimed. There are 3-4 teams right now that would claim him on waivers and plug him into their rotation.
And this is sort of my point…the idea that a guy who was converted to starting and was serviceable in the rotation last year, this is a guy people see fine with just giving away if it comes down to it, doesn’t make sense to me.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are these teams?
That you are sure would claim someone with a 12 era now because he had a 5.3 era last season?
He might get claimed, but I don’t think its any kind of lock. But ok, I wouldn’t care if we traded him for a minor prospect to clear space.
Obviously you don’t think people should be fine with losing him. Fine. You see the run he had midseason in the rotation and believe him in him. But you don’t see how I can see a 5.12 career ERA, 132:102 K:BB ratio, unimpressive stuff and say that IF, and I repeat IF, the rangers get into a situation where they need his roster spot that I’d be ok with risking (and I dont think its a sure thing) losing him?
For gods sake just yesterday you were saying you see no future in matt harrison, I cant see no future in scott feldman?
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see no future in Matt Harrison?
did AJM really say that?
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 18, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not in those exact words.
but the outlook was not positive. yesterdays GDT.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to go back and look at what I said
I hate nibbling lefty pitchers. If Harrison is going to pussyfoot around like that and keep throwing backdoor breaking balls a foot off the plate once he gets to 0-2, he’s not going to stick.
Harrison doesn’t seem all that different to me that Feldman, really. A guy who doesn’t miss many bats and who is a #4/#5 starter if he keeps his walks under control.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference
is that Harrison is a lefty and 23 years old. If he gains control – something pitchers do figure out – he could be a lot more useful.
Feldman is a righty and 26. He’s still young, but not a raw kid anymore. (let me just preemptively say I don’t care to the “he’s just learning how to start / a new style / blah blah blah”)
So even if they are identical right now, Harrison at least has potential. Feldman, I think what we see is what we get.
by JBImaknee on Apr 18, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that being a pretty big thing to just not care about
The whole, we’re going to convert you from a sidearm RP to an overhand SP thing is pretty big. Do you not think its an excuse for prospects when they are dealing with new mechanics?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simply changing mechanics
isn’t sufficient for me to bump you up in prospect status for me.
I’m all for giving a guy a break because he’s learning something new. And I’m happy Feldman got to the point he’s even worth arguing about. But he’s been a mediocre, inconsistent pitcher who has shown some flashes of goodness. I don’t see why I’m supposed to believe that he’s going to suddenly become consistent.
by JBImaknee on Apr 18, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I should point out
I don’t think this team is winning anything this year, and think they should stick with Feldman just to see if maybe he does become consistent. Just like Harrison. Neither should be bumped off this team unless they are sitting with an ERA >7 in August or something.
by JBImaknee on Apr 18, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying bump up his prospect status
I’m saying be more patient with him and to see the potential for him to be a solid back of the rotation starter for the Rangers.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those teams?
Right now, of the top of my head:
Anaheim
Baltimore
Washington
It is a slam dunk he’s claimed by one of those teams.
And I just don’t see how you can suggest that getting a 5.12 ERA from a #4 or #5 starter is of so little value that you’d be willing to dump that guy for a waiver claim price or another Michael Hernandez.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a point of clarification
The Rangers decide tomorrow to call up Feliz and put him in the pen, and put Feldman on waivers to make room for him.
You are fine with that? Think that’s a good move?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think
we are ever going to have a 5 better than that, or if you think that WS teams don’t have 5s worse than that, you probably should put the crack pipe down.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just judging by Nolan's comments about
‘starting’ Holland in the pen, plus I’m thinking it’s pretty safe to asume Benson’s continued suck. Or a McCarthy injury. Or amplified Harrison suck.
But yeah, you’re right. Holland could well stay in the pen until July, which probably means thigns are going well, which is a good thing.
by Keynes on Apr 18, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another question
Wasn’t Holland suppose to be starting tonight? Why not get him another start in the minors and then bring him up? He went 12 days between starts (from end of Spring Training to first start in AAA) and it seemed to affect him, now we are delaying him pitching again…it just seems like its hurting his development for this year
That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....
by Smoak Some on Apr 18, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This team has FF and JJ in the bullpen and that's about it
He’ll get his innings.
by hiafex on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this move
As long as Holland consistently gets innings under his belt this is bound to be a better proving ground than AAA. I don’t think it’s necessarily bad for him to start in the bullpen and then step into the rotation at the first injury.
by bstair on Apr 18, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with it.
Much like Andrus, I don’t think he’s ready, but I should also hope I’m not as knowledgable on the subject as the Rangers. If they’re making the wrong decision, we’ll find out and they never should have been running a team, anyway. If they should be, he’s probably ready.
I have no problem at all with starting players in the pen. It’s worked plenty of times in history, it gets him controlled big league experience and helps limit his innings (and helps our bullpen). If he does well enough, they can try him in the rotation.
by philkid3 on Apr 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like starting his service clock, though.
by philkid3 on Apr 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even if he stays up the entire time
they’ve already gotten the extra year right? it doesn’t take much to get it, you only wait 2+ months t o not have to pay them arbitration for one of the years.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they?
It’s 172 days, right? How many days are left?
by philkid3 on Apr 18, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure
but I think it would be pretty easy by the team to option him back to the minors to stretch him back out for the rotation. Give him a start or two in OKC and you’ll also make sure to get that extra year at that time.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
im not so sure hes ready but i dont have a huge problem with him breaking in with the pen (long man i assume).
id prefer he get more aaa time though and show more there
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he did hold his own in Spring Training
That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....
by Smoak Some on Apr 18, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all that
I did a double take when I saw it posted, but I think he’ll handle it as well as Andrus. Neither of those guys is Edinson Volquez, personality wise. I’m surprised, but excited.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double take. Definitely what I did.
When I saw EG’s post, I seriously freaked out. But it was more out of shock, not anger.
by philkid3 on Apr 18, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright
let’s do this…
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
by gossamer on Apr 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this is all i gotta say
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dshep
need to edit your Feliz/Holland bumper sticker to scratch out 2010, put 2009
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 18, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't like this one bit
I really felt he needed most of this season in AAA. Let him build some momentum down there. This reeks of desperation to sell tickets.
by Sherman McCoy on Apr 18, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep, I agree
I think the Rangers are afraid of completely losing the fan base
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is momentum going to do for him exactly?
by hiafex on Apr 18, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes him harder to stop.
I propose a 5-year moratorium on trading any young Ranger pitchers who throw over 90 mph.
by Ajax68 on Apr 18, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 3 minutes of thought
I’ve realized that this means the Rangers are trying to win right now. Holland is the one guy there who has the potential to be a very effective arm in the bullpen (sorry, Diamond). This is a move to win.
Which means that Washington is gone on Monday.
by JBImaknee on Apr 18, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think it points to Wash being gone on Monday?
by bstair on Apr 18, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could you not... I was expecting something drastic.
I mean three Aprils of this crap?
by oc on Apr 18, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The objective and analytically side of me says
That the call up is too soon, and made for very questionable reasons.
The fan side of me, however
by Telegraph on Apr 18, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
He’s pretty much the biggest callup since ??? Can’t say I won’t be excited the first time he comes in.
by Sherman McCoy on Apr 18, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see what you got Derek...
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Apr 18, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Linky.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fail.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 18, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does someone actually get paid to write this??
“Holland, 22, began the season in the Triple-A Oklahoma City rotation and allowed four runs in four innings. He was 2-0 with a 3.97 ERA in five relief appearances. "
Does this confuse anyone else?
by Bigfan16 on Apr 18, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are those his Spring Training numbers?
He pitched for quite a while with the big club and I think he was coming out of the bullpen. Otherwise that’s just massive fail.
by Hull Fan on Apr 18, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as much as i dread we are bringing him up too soon
i am also very excited to see what he can do. if we arent competitive this summer, at least seeing elvis and holland get significant action will make this team fun to watch
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Apr 18, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holland over Diamond
You put Diamond in the Rangers’ pen now and you might end any short to medium term chance of him remaining a starter.
Holland isn’t closing any such doors by going into the pen, he’s just opening doors a little sooner than expected.
Could be the thinking here.
by shroomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
Diamond will be up this year in the pen, IF he pitches well. I guess we should have known Holland was 1st on the list by the fact that he was the last minor leaguer to pitch meaningful innings in spring training.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that Holland is just better
by Brett Perryman on Apr 18, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upside: He has the chance to help the club all season, while keeping his innings under 150. Could definitely see him move into the rotation later in the season.
Downside: I have to think that the development of his change and slider will suffer some. I hope he doesn’t throw his arm out in relief. Fewer innings sounds great, but relievers get hurt A LOT.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 18, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than starters?
That would be an interesting study.. thats probably already been done.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't mean to say that
I just meant that fewer innings is no guarantee that you’ll protect your prized arm. Relief innings can be higher octane. I did see Durrett say that he will be used in long relief, which seems like a good thing in that regard. Adrenaline shouldn’t be as crazy high night after night.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 18, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darren Oliver
Johnny Oates moved him from the bullpen — where he was lights out when he first arrived — to the rotation because of Oliver’s history of arm problems.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
relievers
im guessing they might get injured more because the come in and throw hard sometimes on back to back days, where a starter doesnt throw 100% hard all game?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 18, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very much. And
set days off to workout (legs), and a set schedule of when they are pitching.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Innings under 150?
I guess you mean because his usage will be less scheduled in the bullpen.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. He threw 150 last season, plus a few postseason starts. This year he’ll presumably pitch through September, so a couple of months of relief (and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s all it winds up being) could keep him there.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 18, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Change is already good
if he uses his slider as his second pitch it would be beneficial. If he favors the change, detrimental.
by Goyogringo on Apr 18, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See? Work with me here ...
I’m trying to steer clear of settling on the words ‘desperation move’ when thinking about this.
I wanna think there’s a plan – some deep thought behind the move.
by shroomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deep thought
Holland is good, better than Diamond, better than Rupe.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
There is a plan, but it is Nolan Ryan’s plan. I guess we’ll just have to see if he knows what he’s doing.
by Brett Perryman on Apr 18, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
and I still think Diamond stays in the pen and that’s all he ever does if/when he gets to Arlington.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bridge to the A-ball arms
is a few years long. Diamond could eat some innings as a starter until they arrive, sorta like Hurley. I think it would worry me to see his options culled bang like that. I hope Diamond starts tonight for OKC and continues in the rotation – and successfully so.
by shroomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could be a swing man or back end guy,
but I think they’ll trade for or sign a starter to lead the kids for 2010. I think they’ll make a real run at someone like Halladay. They are being very aggressive in setting up for 2010 with Andrus, in bringing up Holland, and it seems likely that Feliz, Diamond and maybe a couple of others will get their feet wet at some point. I think that aggressiveness will include a wow trade for a top of the rotation guy.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Diamond really capable of being a starter?
Other than Trip, I don’t think a lot of folks see it.
"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris
by DJCahill on Apr 18, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ready to close the book
on Diamond’s tragic-comic breaking ball eipic as a starter and move him to the pen. Let him be a FB/Change guy so that he only needs to worry about his FB command now…
by Goyogringo on Apr 18, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that this has been rec'd
It’ll be missed by many.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that it has been front paged
It won’t be missed by any.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still a little befuddled by this move
why now? I have no problem dfa’ing Rupe but Holland? All ready? Man, I hope this doesn’t backfire. I’d almost rather he be in the rotation than back in the bullpen but man.
by Hull Fan on Apr 18, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its hard to see it backfiring
It might not work out, but I don’t think you ruin his development by giving him some innings out of the ML bullpen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 18, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you.
Befuddled.
What did Holland show in OKC during his one start and 4 ip?
Do we need a lefty so much more than rhp? Why not try Gabbard or Matthis and give the kid some time in AAA?
If this is the guy you want in the pen then why not start the season with him?
What has changed from the plan we started the season with only a few weeks ago?
by Bigfan16 on Apr 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your point...
Holland hasn’t shown enough at AAA yet, but what have Gabbard or Mathis ever really shown? I’d be ok if I never saw either of them pitching for the Rangers again
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well the other options suck
Gabbard is still not completely healthy or pitching well.
Mathis just got lit up.
Diamond, I think they’re still worried about health wise and don’t want to disrupt him till they know for sure.
Mossaco, again innings are the key and they don’t want a repeat of Madrigal, when leaving him down for half a season might prevent those issues.
Strop, see above.
So the choices were Vaughn, Holland, and Gordon. Since those two are both journeymen, they decided to go with Dutch. I just hope he’s okay. Hawkins in the bullpen makes me feel better about this than otherwise, but they better have seven more years of control rather than six. That will piss me off if not the case.
by Hull Fan on Apr 18, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gabbard?
are you nuts? I saw the reincarnation of Gabbard last night in the form of Matt Harrison..UGLYYY…..
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Holland move right into the rotation..
once one of the starters fails or gets injured. Or is he still 2 or 3 replacements away from making the rotation? Not sure if I want him in the bullpen for the whole year.
by Houston27 on Apr 18, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's just April call-ups, no big deal
by Maltalahoppia on Apr 18, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Screen name
is that like Italian for Mott the Hoople?
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apropos for this topic
‘All the Young Dudes’
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Apr 18, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
this is fun to watch.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Least we arn't opening a 1.6 billion stadium
getting schallacked by the Indians.
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by TxStCa on Apr 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY Indians!! That's what the Yanks get for giving them small pox.
Sick bastards.
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, nice!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too sure how I feel yet...
but at least this gives me some reason to watch the game, even if it’s emotionally scaring rape like last night
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 18, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Possibly being in the house for Holland’s first appearance makes me feel better about being at the Ranger game while the Mavs open the playoffs.
by jthig32 on Apr 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it
Some reasons I have read to go against it-Comparing him to Volquez and giving up too soon….I think we are past that now. I don’t see that happening….Nolan would not let that happen. I am excited to see him pitch this year, and get acclimated to the big leagues. Four more starts in triple A aren’t going to make or break this guys ability to be succesful in the bigs.
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone throw up a TVAnt stream tonight
for those of us out of market?
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 18, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
these are the times
i hate living in houston. I would love to go out to the game tonight and possibly see Holland get in an inning
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in Minnesota
if I knew this was going to happen, there’s probably a 20% chance I made the drive.
Marcus Lemon is the Third Baseman/Leadoff Hitter of the future.
by FirebatM3 on Apr 18, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the times I hated living in Houston
were all of them
by Maltalahoppia on Apr 18, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless
you lived like a king in Bellaire where AJM lives
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bellaire is nice
The best part is that I think those homes only go for like 500k (i’m sure there’s a bunch of exceptions).
by Coolbean04 on Apr 18, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only 500K
maybe that sounds good if you live in Cali or New York, but in Tx, thats freaking expensive as shit
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check here, FbM3.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't planning on going tonite
but not I damn sure am now and tomorrow if he doesn’t pitch tonite.
by CRUSHDAVIS on Apr 18, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
got tickets for tomorrow!!!
rooting for a nice long outing by Millwood tonight so Dutch picthes tomorrow.
by death of the cool on Apr 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see I am in the same boat. I really want to see Holland tonite but I want even more for Millwood to keep going like he has been
by CRUSHDAVIS on Apr 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect scenario
Millwood goes 7 and leaves with a 12-1 lead. Holland gets the last two innings as his red carpet to the big leagues.
by robert_d_wilfong on Apr 18, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow..
Before I came here i was writing down the rosters for OKC so that I could create them on my MLB2K and I noticed Holland wasn’t there.
Of course I though it was just a misprint until I came here…
I am shocked.
by death of the cool on Apr 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who can we DFA for Feliz??? Let's keep this shit rolling.
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eddie
We have 2 lefties now, so Eddie can go.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Hey Eddie wanna coach?"
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or manage
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 18, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
haha
I can see the headline now
“Guardado shifted to managers role, Washington DFA’d”
by Sherman McCoy on Apr 18, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just have wash put all the names of the bullpen in your hat....
shit! don’t do that…with his luck he will pull out frankie.
by death of the cool on Apr 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I take my son to the museum, and this happens.
See if I ever leave my computer again.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps you should leave again
And see what other shoe might drop
by bstair on Apr 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I support this idea
Obviously you need to get out of the house more often Adam. Take the kids to the IMAX tomorrow.
by Hull Fan on Apr 18, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sold your son
To a museum ? Bring Seth back!
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it the natural history museum?
If so, you might have seen Josh Rupe
by Telegraph on Apr 18, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let clean house
Get rid of JJ, CJ, Wash, Murphy, Byrd, Benson and Omar. Flush this shit out and let the kids start playing.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on Apr 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CJ is waaaaaay down the list of rangers problems.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Murphy, Byrd, CJ, Jennings…clearly they are worthless and have no value.
And we don’t need a utility infielder — let all the infielders play all game every game, and release Omar.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 18, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That snake needs spayed...
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes
Finally the front office has some balls.
Please quit with the “it’s too soon!”
He is not some pussy like Matt Harrison who is gonna cry out there. Atleast I hope not.
by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
quick, is he a lefty or righty?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on Apr 18, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The button under Nolan's seat at the ballpark...fully engaged last night.
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a picture
of an airsickness bag would be closer to the truth.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ta Da!!
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sh!t has hit the fan, folks!
I love this move and it proves that upper management seriously wants to win now.
Wash better start packing his boxes btw.
Shoot first, ask questions later.
by idinh on Apr 18, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holland to the rotation at some point
How long? Benson, the clock is ticking. Or Harrison, I guess. I’m guessing Holland is in the rotation before my birthday (June 30) unless he struggles badly.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Millwood and BMac
Both waaaay over due for a stint on the DL. And how many more suckfests is Harrison allowed?
by shroomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
UGH
I was just mad about last night. He pitched scared the whole time after his first strike. I was at the game and it was one reason I left after the top of the fourth. That and my squirmy two year old, bored five year old, and upset 7 year old.
by bstair on Apr 18, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am struggling to see
how this call up has Washington’s job expiration date on it. Someone earlier said by Monday. Not that I don’t think Wash might need to go but why the connection with this move?
by bstair on Apr 18, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well first they are gonna try the
Use some people with actual talent approach.
Then if they still suck, they can point to the manager as the one who is at fault, and misusing that talent
by SaltyGoesYard on Apr 18, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greatness SGY.
Well first they are gonna try the “Use some people with actual talent approach.”
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that they are conected
but if the Royals sweep, he’s gone
by Maltalahoppia on Apr 18, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this move buys Washington a little time
but not much.
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it's the top of the 5th.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
our record
is in jeopardy…please just let us keep that
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
surpass it
Yankees opening the stadium… score 50
by bstair on Apr 18, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt this slump will last,
but it would be so nice to see the Yankees fail miserably after dumping half a billion dollars on free agents.
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA, Joe Buck just assumed that we had to score that 30 at home.
by tyd3311 on Apr 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best thing
joe buck has ever done is make the call on Kenny Powers ninth inning world series save
by kmoneytime on Apr 18, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it annoys me
that nobody corrected him
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derosa has gotten his ops to respectable levels in that game
yay.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
iphone mlb app
highlights are blacked out? are you kidding me?
god i hate blackouts, and fox saturday baseball is the worst of all of them.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 18, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol that is so lame
you can’t even watch highlights? I just checked — that is incredibly stupid.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is especially lame
that Fox hasn’t switched to the 5-5 game in Chicago. FOX and MLB SUCK.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 18, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nolan
I see Nolan’s fingerprints all over this. Did you see his posture last night as we were getting waxed? He made the mention earlier this year about Holland starting in the pen and after last night he said, F it, I’m not watching that shit anymore. Just my humble opinion.
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Apr 18, 2009 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Off to the game, you guys have a great night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
by Section 339 on Apr 18, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So
is the new Yankee Stadium a launching pad, or does there pitching staff just SUCK?
by blueballlefty on Apr 18, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Launching pad,
the ball flys out of right like crazy.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope
the Cowboys have a better showing in there new stadium than the Yankees have so far
by blueballlefty on Apr 18, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was tonight
hollands night to pitch in oklahoma?
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by studcrackers on Apr 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the flying eff is going on here...
i go see a movie and come back and see this happens….WOW.
this is what i do...i guarantee.
by Longhorn on Apr 18, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did you see
Hannah Montana or 17 Again?
Call 1-800-DOCTORB. The B is for bargain!
by Panorama on Apr 18, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quantum of Solace at a friends
this is what i do...i guarantee.
by Longhorn on Apr 18, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He went with Miles.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont 'nkow him
apparently you do though.
this is what i do...i guarantee.
by Longhorn on Apr 18, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he finds the hot 15yo's
and passes the milf moms on to me :)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
IMO, most chicks have pulled the ripcord by the age of 30…and most guys are fat and bald.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Mother I’d …” Moms.
Get it … mother and mom both used. The mom is unnecessary.
Didn’t really mean to cause a stir.
by robert_d_wilfong on Apr 18, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, yeah, kinda redundant, in a way.
Although, have you ever seen moms in Waxahachie??? Shudder…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 18, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I go to the ATM machine, I put my pin number in, and out comesa da cash money....
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Apr 18, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully
main will be here in a few weeks too
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
by gossamer on Apr 18, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Evan says
Holland can’t be a FA until after 2015, and has a Q & A with Evan Grant (yes, you read that right) up:
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/index.php/2009/04/18/talking-to-myself-q-a-about-derek-hollands-promotion/#more-3114
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by t ball on Apr 18, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops
posted too soon, meant to paste this quote:
Had the Rangers started the season with him on the staff or called him up in the first week, he’d have qualified for a full year of major league service and, if his callup became permanent, he’d qualify at the end of 2014. The cutoff date for qualifying for a full year of service was Thursday. Once the Rangers realized they had crossed that threshold, moving Holland up really started to get momentum.
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