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Bah is correct

"If you can't get up for this kind of game, Lord have mercy, you might not have a heartbeat"

-Jerome Bettis

by Jason Brynsvold on Apr 23, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Depressing.

At least there was Holland.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Apr 23, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought the pitching

minus Harrison was somewhat encouraging

by akuykenda on Apr 23, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

true.

As long as blalock and some of the others keep swinging from the heels and try to pull everything, this offense will continue to struggle. At least Hamilton made an adjustment and tried to go oppo tonight. The other guys should try it.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

kind of tough

to point the finger at pitching when you score 2 runs.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 23, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

for the most part

the SP has been at least serviceable. It is the offense which is really going bad. some need to adjust their approach like Hamilton did tonight.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easy now.

Millwood has been great til tonight, when he was just good. McCarthy has been adequate

The other starters have been complete garbage this year.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 23, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is an improvement over the past few years.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great?

Not so fast. Even before tonight’s start THT had Millwood’s xFIP higher than last year’s mark, and he had left an insanely lucky 90% of his runners stranded on base. He was due for some coming back to earth. I think he looks better than last year, but not nearly by as much as his first 3 starts might seem to have indicated.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 23, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how he lasts if they lose 2 of 3 to Balt.

There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem – once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971

by TxStCa on Apr 23, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 games against BAL

"If you can't get up for this kind of game, Lord have mercy, you might not have a heartbeat"

-Jerome Bettis

by Jason Brynsvold on Apr 23, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah

other than Elvis’ errors they are playing OK.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 23, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

this series loss was not on wash

by akuykenda on Apr 23, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

Certainly pissed watching the game, but now that’s it’s over, all I feel is meh.

I was pretty sure the Blue Jays were a markedly better team even befor the season. 1/3 in Toronto is just about my expectancy, if not better. One loss was close, Holland was awesome, and we won a game against one of the best pitchers in baseball.

Not too bitter. All my bitterness is caried over from the Orioles and Royals series.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah, but...

you’ve gotta hate the discipline of our hitters. we made their 5th starter look like the ace because most of our lineup is swinging at pitches well out of the strikezone. Stop swinging at balls in the dirt, and make a pitcher work.

The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.

by NothinG on Apr 23, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do hate their discipline.

Though I still think the result is going to be above average at almost every position, so I’m not going to nitpick much.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

They won't be even average

…if they continue to swing like they have. Blalock’s not even the worst culprit, although due to his ugly swing he looks the worst.

A disturbing number of this teams run production comes from the long ball, and sometimes it’s just not going to be there or in their case there’s never going to be anyone on base when they do go deep. The need to correct this issue sooner than later as most of the players are still young and can develop at least average plate discipline.

God help this team if they ever make it to the playoffs and have to face real starting pitching. They’ll make the 96-99 Rangers look like the 1927 Yankees. A massacre.

There’s little doubt that the Rangers offense will look great by the end of the season because they will feast off spare pitchers and hit in their friendly confines. Nights like the win against Halladay are going to be very, very rare.

I’d so much rather be watching a team that was getting ready to play with the big kids.

by Black Francis on Apr 24, 2009 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you watch the games or

look at the box scores?

The Rangers have scored more runs per game than any team in baseball. In those 15 games they’ve faced some guys that are pretty damn good – Greinke, Hallady, Lee, Carmona, Verlander – Gallaraga and Davies are good too. And one of their best hitters (Hamilton) is off to a crappy start.

Oh, and Blalock is the worst culprit – 1 walk in 57PAs – that is horrible.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

All those regular season runs

don’t count for much in the postseason, which is Black Francis point. The 99 Rangers scored 945 runs during the regular season, and then scored 1 run in 3 games in the postseason.

By the way, happy 2 week anniversery to Josh Hamilton on his 2 week anniversery since his last walk.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 24, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hambone looks a lot like 2007 Nellie Cruz right now

and Nellie Cruz looks a lot like 2008 Hambone.

It’s kinda wierd that one player would see his plate discipline completely evaporate and another on the same team has apparently refined his approach from horrible to outstanding.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 24, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't know

if its just a fail cascade where you start failing, then get anxious and swing at everything to get out of the fail cascade.

4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.

by DJCahill on Apr 24, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares about the postseason?

Aren’t we supposed to get there first before planning for what we’ll do in the postseason.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm a fan, and I'm a girl, but please don't call me a fangirl.

by The Best Micah on Apr 24, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Impressive pitching and impressive fielding.

If this offense they’re putting up is for real, I take back saying they’ll have trouble finishing .500 just because of their schedule.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, Laird was traded

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by Lisa W on Apr 23, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

$

All the credit in the world to jolujogat

by Telegraph on Apr 23, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I forgot about Eddie :D

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by Lisa W on Apr 23, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder

if Teagarden will be able to hit major league pitching.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 23, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder the same thing about Salty

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 23, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty is at least making passable amount of contact

Davis and Teagarden are artificially inflating opposing pitcher’s FIPs

by Telegraph on Apr 23, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that Davis won't come around

But I knew that what we are seeing from him was within his spectrum of reasonable possibilities, but it is still tough to watch it.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 23, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah - they look a bit different

Salty seems to know what’s coming a lot of times, but swings through them
Davis is like a hermit crab – he just crawled out from under a rock

More than anything, I am happy now if I see Davis make more contact, regardless of the result of the AB. So far it’s not happening

by Telegraph on Apr 23, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

the last couple games

Davis has hit the ball hard. He’ll strikeout out, but he is also a slow starter. I have much more confidence in Davis than Salty/Murphy at this point. Teagarden isn’t getting the playing time to get in a groove.

The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.

by NothinG on Apr 23, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

at this moment

Who is? it’s a pretty short list at the moment.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, ouch!

LOL

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by Lisa W on Apr 23, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barajas

keeps looking better and better.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 23, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

so does laird! Double ouch!

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not much difference

between the two.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 23, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

one thing in common

They are both better than our duo at the moment.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope someone

steps up from our catching mix soon.

"The idea that the Rangers are going to be a solid contender for a number of years is a fantasy." - Adam J. Morris

by DJCahill on Apr 23, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT...

Apparently my ex-wife is in the background of a picture of Carrie Underwood in Us Weekly this week. Not sure how to take that.

by Inkara1 on Apr 23, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

use it for toilet paper

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions  

note from Stark's latest

Hitters With Most Swing & Misses in MLB

 1. Josh Hamilton
 2. Chris Davis

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 23, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Cruz

Isn’t he on that list as well

by hca4 on Apr 23, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have swing and miss totals. . .

But as far as contact rate, that’s available at FanGraphs. Davis is the worst, Salty is second, Cruz is 8th, Hamilton is 10th.

Cruz, though, is swinging at very, very little out of the zone.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teabag

proving why salty starts and teabag sits the bench….bet a few r wishing laird was still here!!!!!

4 fing strikeouts….not acceptable on the major league level, especially when the bases r loaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also looks like Hamilton has a Cecil Fielder type hitch in his swing…..

The Ranger hitters don’t look very patient at the plate and at other times they self the bat on the shoulder when the bat should be swung.

Disappointing start to the season but I think I expect more of this team sooner than I should.

by ACtheStud1980 on Apr 23, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

"bet a few r wishing laird was still here!!!!!"

Major league audition time for highly-touted catching prospects + Guillermo Moscoso?

Nope. Even if he was underrated.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

I guess the argument could be made that Laird + Bowden > Salty + Moscoso

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 23, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

:(

I still think we’d want room for auditions, though.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, I wonder if I'm the only person not disappointed by the season so far.

Actually, I’m a little pleasently surprised, if anything. Sure, losing a game — even if I expect them to lose — is obscenely frustratining. But, this team’s pythag going in to this game was .500, Cruz looks like he’s for real, Millwood has been awesome, Kinsler is showing that last year may not have been a career year, the bullpen has steadily gone from crappy crap to just crap, Elvis is handling The Show. . .

When I was expecting a team in the mid-70s in wins and worried a few of those things would be disasters, once I’m removed form the rage of the individual games, I’m not disappointed at all.*

*Now that I’ve removed my feelings from that opening series.

by philkid3 on Apr 23, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I predicted 76 wins

My defense mechanisms are state-of-the-art

by Telegraph on Apr 23, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea we do need to keep it in perspective

they are building well for the future. The break-in off holland is just the beginning of the stud pitching prospects.

What we need to do is just keep getting more disciplined at the plate. If our young hitters know how to work a count, this will be the best lineup in the league for years to come.

"If you can't get up for this kind of game, Lord have mercy, you might not have a heartbeat"

-Jerome Bettis

by Jason Brynsvold on Apr 23, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keeping it in perspective is for the offseason

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 23, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me: Not disappointed, not surprised.

Relieved might be the word: after all these years of Rangers fandom, I was worried coming into this season that it’d be the start of the Next Great Letdown, with sophomores, rookies, and prospects falling by the wayside left and right. All the upsides you point out above give me a bit more confidence that this thing is moving in the right direction. Still feels as if the whole thing’s rolling along on eggshells, but so far, so decent…

by Snark on Apr 23, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

who is the Rangers'

hitting coach again?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 23, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

but

swinging for the fences works in BP, why doesn’t it work in a game?

by akuykenda on Apr 23, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

good question

why does he never get any heat? How many years has it been home run or K for most Ranger hitters? At least last year, some seemed to follow Milton’s lead and they were more consistent through the year than I can remember.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Apr 23, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

from EG about Murphy
A week or 10 days at OKC might allow him to mentally get out of the slump. And, Brandon Boggs injected some energy into this team when he came up last year.

Call up Boggs and break out the foam finger!!!!

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 23, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey Rangers,

that’s not ok…..

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 23, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't get the game out here in Lubbock

but it awesome to check the boxscore and see Duncan with 4 pts….Did they knock Tony on his back?

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 23, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.

I’m studying at the library, thought I’d check the score during a break. Umm….wow.

Also, allow me to channel my inner Bill Simmons:

JACQUE VAUGHN is still in the league!! Am I the only one who didn’t know this!?! He’s 34! I’m shocked! I’m amazed! I’m shokazed!

Top 3 facts my friend and I found tonight about Jacque Vaughn:
1. He played with Greg Ostertag in college.
2. He played against Corliss Williamson in college.
3. He is the Big 8 all-time assists record holder.

The NBA: where old happens.

by GhettoBear04 on Apr 23, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

He fits in nicely with Finley, Bowen, Kurt Thomas,and Oberto….even Tim is getting up there. The Spurs have to be one of the oldest teams in the league, wouldn’t surprise me if at least one of them has a Life Alert.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott

by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 23, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

the spurs bench

beat the mavs bench in the 4th quarter

Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.

by gossamer on Apr 23, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you were young

and your mom was mad as hell at you and she asked you and your sibling to do something, didn’t you do it a little better and little quicker than your sibling who was not in trouble?

by robert_d_wilfong on Apr 23, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rajon Rondo helped off the court

not good.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 23, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

69 hahahaha

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Apr 23, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

6-9 start this year is basically a

continuation of the 19-29 finish they had last year.

I think I mentioned their piss-poor finish last season as a big reason to be concerned with this season if Washington was brought back.

Tonight was an opportunity lost to build momentum.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 23, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

id say the poor finish

could be pointed to injuries and a burnt out bullpen

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by studcrackers on Apr 23, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say it was baseball's cruel way of finally making

a market correction because last year’s team had a record waaaaaaaay over their skis in relation to how their pythag record said they were playing.

Even though they were actually 5 games over .500 actual they were 5-7 games under via pythag up until August.

Baseball can be a sonofabitch that way.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 23, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim Smith 2-R BOMB!

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 23, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions  

wrong thread.

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 23, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

remember this from 2007
Washington wants the Rangers to be more selective at the plate, work the count, run more and not just sit back and wait for the big homer. A veteran lineup, most notably Mark Teixeira, has been reluctant to embrace change.

So the team will listen to and take thier lead from Milton Bradley but not thier manager Ron Washington. In 2007 they were 11th in OBP. 2008 they were 2nd. In 2009 they are currently 9th. Is there a problem here?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/sportsline/main10221427.shtml

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 23, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Davis last 8 games

.321 1 2B 3 HR 6 RBI 15 K 0 BB

When he hits it good things happen.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 23, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

15K's

that’s too much. you can’t leave so much up to chance

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 23, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murphy

He’s 0-20, but has a higher OBP (.231) than Salty (.227) and nearly as good as Blalock (.246) and Davis (.259).

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 1:25 AM CDT reply actions  

But an ecouraging sign, if he ever starts making contact with baseballs again

Maybe he’s learned a little something from this slump.

I must get out of the plane, go to a nearby farmhouse - have a Dr Pepper - and call the police.

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 24, 2009 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm curious

if walking him leads to automatic DFA calls on other sites.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Apr 24, 2009 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

DFA

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

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