Friday morning things
1-2 in Toronto. Kevin Millwood wasn't great yesterday, but he pitched well enough that you'd like to think he could have gotten the win. No offense yesterday, though, against a pitcher you'd like to the think the Rangers should be able to score against...
Jeff Wilson notes that the Rangers have lost the last three games that Kevin Millwood has started. In those games, Millwood has only given up 6 runs, but the Rangers have scored a total of only 6 runs. Hard to win scoring 2 runs per game.
Wilson also has a Rangers mailbag up, with questions about the bullpen usage by Ron Washington, guys who could be dealt by Texas later in the season, and Frankie Francisco's intro music, among other things.
And he also has a write-up on new Ranger Darren O'Day.
Jason Jennings will pitch in back-to-back games this season, according to the Rangers. They just aren't going to have him do it this early in the season, coming back from surgery.
Evan Grant contemplates whether the struggling David Murphy and Taylor Teagarden would be best served going back to AAA for a while. Personally, I don't think that would be a good idea.
T.R. Sullivan has some bloggy notes up.
Z has a blog post up about Manny Pina, who is off to a hot start in AA.
Jim Reeves doesn't like it that Kris Benson is being replaced by Scott Feldman. He thinks that Feldman is more valuable in the pen, and Derek Holland should be in the rotation.
And Ray Buck talks about Josh Lewin's head for trivia, and penchant for working said trivia into the broadcasts.
Lewin sometimes reminds me of this exchange between Norm and Cliff on the TV show Cheers:
Norm: Cliffy, you're a walking encyclopedia.Cliff: Gee, thanks, Norm.
Norm: Unfortunately, you're also a talking encyclopedia.
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Andrus
That photo almost looks like a jump throw.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Apr 24, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bite your tongue.
The jump throw is the most sacred thing in all of sports, and really in all of life.
Elvis is nowhere near jump throw status yet.
Someday, maybe.
But not yet.

The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 24, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has been photoshopped right?
I mean… it looks like he has one black sock and one white sock. Crazy.
by chase182 on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can I get a Tim Tebow jump throw pic here?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to God... if one more person compares Tebow's stupid ghey jump passes to Derek Jeter's life affirming jump throws, I'm gonna absolutely lose it and drown like seven or eight immigrant children.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 24, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just Jeter...
making an easy play look difficult.
by Wemedge on Apr 24, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks to me like a jump punch...
which is even more rare
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elvis actually punched-out the guy trying to take second so violently,
it propelled him three feet into the air.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What had Feldman provided in the pen so far???
Derek Holland could be the real value out there.
by tyd3311 on Apr 24, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holland on the Ticket at 9:30.
Confirmed.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad the internet stream seems to be down today
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 24, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks.
I’m sure it’ll make the top ten.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, i agree...
Murph and Teagarden obviously should stay up here and start every 3 or 4 games. Nothing will get them out of a slump like sitting a lot.
by bhudson on Apr 24, 2009 8:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So you think both of them should be sent down?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly being facetious...
but I wouldn’t care if Murphy got sent down and Boggs brought up. They are different players, but fill the same role, neither will become a full-time outfielder, in my opinion.
I don’t know what you do with Teagarden. What they’re doing with catcher playing time is not conducive to hitting, but I don’t know what else they can really do. Teagarden might be our full-time catcher someday, so watching him flail with limited playing time is more depressing to me than watching Murphy.
by bhudson on Apr 24, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't the knock on Teagarden always been
that he may never hit ML pitching? I’m not sure his role isn’t catch and throw backup catcher.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
by DJCahill on Apr 24, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the rest of our offense
was doing what it was supposed to do, I would be completely happy with a .240 avg + some power, top shelf defense catcher… which I think is what Teagarden is. I thought the bigger knock on Teagarden is whether he can endure life as a full time catcher. I’m no scout, I’m just watching games and sifting through opinions…
by bhudson on Apr 24, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis and Teagarden
both shot out of the gates last year. It’s a new year, and they’re having to adjust. Things will iron out. Murphy’s hit a big rut, but at least he’s still getting on base here and there. I wouldn’t mind bringing Boggs up either, but I just don’t know if we make that move yet.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
I think swapping Boggs for Murphy won’t hurt. Actually, it literally can’t hurt unless Boggs gets zero hits and zero walks, which I guess is possible. No idea why you’d send Teagarden down. That seems reactionary, but our offense is the suck lately.
by FuturePants on Apr 24, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy yes, Tea no
I think Murphy needs to be playing every day somewhere, and that somewhere should be some place that doesn’t affect wins and losses for the Rangers. I’m willing to go with a week or two for someone to get going. But looking as lost at the plate as he has for the first 3 weeks? We know Murphy can hit RHP in the big leagues. The problem is, he’s off. He needs to go to AAA, where he should be able to hit without pressing.
Tea… he’s either going to hit or he isn’t, and he doesn’t need to play every day for his defense. I don’t see how sending him to AAA changes anything
by JBImaknee on Apr 24, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if every slumping player requires a trip to AAA
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 24, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't Feldman proved
he has zero value in the pen?
If the Rangers want to send Murphy down and bring up Boggs as the 4th OF, I don’t have any problems with it. I don’t think either is much more than a 4th OF, or maybe emergency cheap 3rd OF.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
by DJCahill on Apr 24, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yes he has
starting rotation for a month for Scotty to see what he can do
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your talking encyclopedia comment...
…is spot on.
Will there ever be a rainbow?
by Chad Crudup on Apr 24, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember that line in particular...
…because my brother and I used to say it about Ben all the time
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wikipedia is really butchering the art of random knowledge
Its a shame because now everyone is just spewing random crap they read on the internet.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much of that trivia
is game preparation and how much is just useless stuff floating around in his head?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I find Millwood's April fascinating
and his luckiness/unluckiness compared to last year interesting. Despite his vastly better ERA, some reason for caution with the Millwood optimism:
ERA 2008 – 5.07 2009 – 2.10
FIP, 2008 – 4.06 2009 – 4.59
xFIP 2008 – 4.28 2009 – 4.55
DER 2008 – .645 2009 – .821
He’s getting much better defense behind him this year. I think this is a good example of how quality defense can make average pitching look pretty good.
Left on base, 2008 – 68.5% (close to league average) 2009 – 92.8% this is not going to last
BABIP, 2008 – .366 (career avg. .307) 2009 – .182 this is also not going to last
His walk rate is down slightly, his ground ball rate is up, he’s getting a much higher percentage of infield flies (30% instead of career avg. 9.9%). His tRA is a shiny 3.40 (last year 5.26) and it won’t surprise anyone to think that he’s not going to maintain an ERA in the 2-range all year. I think, though, with better luck and defense than the last two years, his peripherals suggest he’ll be around 4.00.
Look at his page over at fangraphs, and be prepared to be surprised that he has been more than worth his contract so far, according to their valuation system. He’s not an ace really, but this 2009 level of production is what the Rangers are paying him for.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe
Millwood had a similar start in 2008 (2.53 ERA through 5 starts). I don’t think it means much of anything, but might as well enjoy it while it lasts.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
by DJCahill on Apr 24, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His April last year
.329 BABIP, 3.86 ERA, uninspiring but the injuries really did him in, he was a similar pitcher last year, just much less lucky and not healthy.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it does if we're out of contention
and there’s a trading partner before he implodes…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tball
Where did you get the tRA data?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The important thing for Millwood
will be if he is able to just do what he did yesterday more often than not. That should be enough to get the Rangers win on any given night. As we saw last night, its not always good enough, but 7 innings and 4 ER is far from bad for a Ranger pitcher.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be careful with that Millwood optomism, Tim.
GDawg and Tricer will devour your genitals for saying such things.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 24, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just look at his FIP, right?
It looks like Millwood is the luckiest man alive now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers make their own luck.
EOM
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on Apr 24, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I can live with a 4.50 FIP from Millwood this year.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's hard to conclude much yet
The homerun rate part of the FIP/tRA has an enormous influence on them, so at this point in the season, the stat can change in a hurry. It’s part of the reason why McCarthy’s FIP is an intergalaxial 7.15 – and of course, unless you believe that he will give up 50 HR in 170 innings, that FIP should be coming down pretty quickly.
by Telegraph on Apr 24, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did u call him Tim?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Apr 24, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cause that's what the T stands for.
Tim Ball.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 24, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you say so, Dirk.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 25, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 25, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old tRA value?
StatCorner now shows Millwood with a 5.05 tRA.*
If you look at his batted ball rates, you can see that his 2009 HR/FB rate is ~2.5% above past rates. Of course, giving up three homers in one game will do that to a guy.
by jwiscarson on Apr 24, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The offense will probably look a lot like last year's offense"
Don’t agree with that statement made by Wilson. This offense will be closer to the 2007 version than last year’s version. Too many Ks and not enough BBs. A definite lack of desire to work the count and draw a walk.
Why was Milton Bradley able to have such an influence on the offense but not the manager?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This offense will be much better than that one
The 2007 offense had Byrd lead the team in OPS+ at 113.
This offense won’t lead the league in walks, but they never were going to. I’d like to see some walk machines on the team, but when Hamilton and Davis get out of this slump of their’s, the team’s OBP is going to look a whole lot better. When Blalock, Hamilton, and Davis get their BA back up to the .280 range (if not higher), they’ll have much more respectable OBP’s too.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will the 2009 offense be closer
to the 901 runs they scored last year or the 816 they scored in 2007? Does it matter?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
901 runs
Does it matter? I’d like to think a difference of 100 runs over a season matters.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With thier current approach at the plate
they may lead the AL and MLB in runs scored but they won’t win 79 games again. Even if thier pitching improves by 0.5 runs per game.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
73-89
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Milton Bradley
was really as big an influence on his teammates last year as you suggest, more of the ’08 Rangers would have refused to play and pulled themselves out of games to protect their numbers.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sucktitude of the offense is getting tiresome.
For once the pitching hasn’t been an insurmountable disaster and yet they are finding ways to lose ballgames. Very frustrating.
by Athos on Apr 24, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Hey there, how's it going?" s intro
Was very nervous warming up.
Hawkins told him he was going in the next inning, then he got the call w/bases loaded.
Maddux/Hawkins was impressed with his outing.
His hands were sweating so much he could barely grip the ball, had to go to the rosin bag several times.
BP guys helped him keep himself in check….said he told the infielders he pissed his pants on the way out to the mound-joking to stay loose.
His convo with the ump…he likes to know what/how the ump wants to be called (Blue, Frank, etc). He completely had the umps name wrong-funny moment. The ump gave him the lineup card and the ball from his first punchout. Ump also asked him how old he was-haha.
Was it all a blur pitching to Rolen, or did he rely on Salty? We were on the same page…but he did notice when he came to the plate.
Holland went to use the restroom between innings and bumped into the new guy (O’Day), who said “Hey, I have to hurry and get into the game. Man, I need a jersey”. Then he came into the game, and Holland was like “Hey, I was just teammates with Gabbard-you aren’t him!”
Laughing about his pink bag-he is getting mucho razzed from fans.
Sounds like a really great guy.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn 2.0
Should be: <- Holland’s intro
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm dying to know....
What the person thought when they got an IM/email from you that said “Holland” instead of “Hey there, how’s it going?”.
Ain’t cut and paste coupled with multitasking a biotch?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Apr 24, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along those lines,
my VP keeps sending me emails intended for a lady named Randi…it has become an inside joke between Randi & I at this point :)
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are 4 folks in my company (large national firm) with the same first and last name..
the amount of secret emails I get to read is astounding.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Apr 24, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, future blackmail material, maybe?
Job security!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss those days...
company of 2 now.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
making friends with the ump
smart kid…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Apr 24, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like an engaging kid.
What’s not to like about him. Seems down to earth, laid-back, a bit of a joker. Lefty who throws 92-95, has a mean slider. Can’t wait to see him take the mound again. Hopefully the Rangers get 180 IP out of him this year.
If Holland blossoms, I think the Rangers might have the most down-to-earth group of All Stars I have ever seen on a single team. Hamilton, Kinsler, MY (even with his offseason antics, he’s still very engaging of the fan community), Holland. Very even-keeled, fan-engaging group.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Apr 24, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s not to like about him?
Redskins fan.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 24, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know about that.
I’m not sure that’s a reason for dislike, just a sign that he is not immune bad taste.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Apr 24, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy and TT...
probably could use more consistent playing time to help them get on track, but I don’t want to see them sent down to OKC. Main reason is that I want Boggs, Borbon, and Golson playing everyday in the OF and MaxRam catching everyday there.
People need to accept Murphy for what he is. A 4th OFer. I really don’t care if the Rangers 4th OFer isn’t hitting to start the season. I think Boggs, Borbon, and Golson all have more potential than he does and therefore I want them playing everyday at OKC and not Murphy.
TT is going to have to fight out of his little slump. Salty is younger with more potential, and if he can improve his game defensively (which I think he has done) then he deserves that chance to be the everyday guy. I’m a believer that the catching situation will work itself out if it is handled correctly. Last year I don’t really think it was. This year however I think it has been handled the way it should with Salty starting for the Rangers MaxRam in OKC playing everyday and TT waiting his turn while catching once or twice a week.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 24, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course, it would be nice if at least one of Salty or TT was hitting his own weight. Part of the offense’s problem is that huge hole in the 6-8 spots in the order, and our catchers are a significant contributor to that.
by Athos on Apr 24, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
but it’s still early. I think Salty and Davis will come around. As long as they’re in there everyday I’m sure they will get things going. It takes younger players some time to get going.
I’m more worried about Hamilton. I was playing catch with my daughter yesterday and he came out of nowhere and swung at the damn thing.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 24, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
hamilton looked pretty good yesterday
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on Apr 24, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
Don’t make me laugh like that, dude.
I’m drinking very hot coffee.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
"I guess it’s tough to look good when you play on the same team as Marcus Lemon." -Trip Somers.
"Congratulations, Mr. Somers. You just made THE LIST." -The Newberg, after reading the above comment.
by thedirkatron on Apr 24, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
first that guy walked you in your bedroom, and then Hamilton swings and misses at your game of catch. You have to stop living in the ballpark.
by JBImaknee on Apr 24, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife...
would emphatically second that notion.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 24, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that visual made me laugh
Sounds like a Monty Python sketch…
“NO ONE expects Josh Hamilton!”
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Apr 24, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A big part of TT's problem is that he's only playing once a week or so.
He knows he’s better defensively than Salty but that this organization seems to value offense more than defense.
He also knows all things being equal, Salty is going to the majority of the playing time because he’s not the player JD traded for. He knows this competition can’t be close and is also probably trying to do more than he is capable.
I think the playing time should be 50-50 until somebody proves clear superiority.
By the way, the 6-9 record this team is throwing down is exactly how they started last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly,
Salty has been pretty good defensively so far.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salty has been better this year but that's damning with feint praise.
What’s really scary about our 6-9 record is the runs allowed total compared to 2008.
Thru 2008 this team had allowed 74 runs.
Thru 2009 this team has allowed 98 runs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what does that have
to do with Salty’s defense?
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a thing
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 24, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two different thoughts in one post
and not saying Salty is the cause of the increase in runs allowed.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See guys
He’s trying to make somewhat relevant replies to posts.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still think Matt Harrison is a
“great pitcher” ?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still going to avoid
showing me a quote where I said that Harrison will be lights out right out of the gate?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, apparently not
unless Harrison is Salty
by Oddibee on Apr 24, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the interests of full disclosure
Through 15 games:
2008 Rangers: 6-9, 64 runs, 74 runs allowed
2009 Rangers: 6-9, 94 runs, 98 runs allowed
BTW, I believe the proper phrase is “faint praise”.
by mgb5 on Apr 24, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stopped by the spelling police...
can I get off with a warning or are you giving me a ticket?
I’m not concerned about the number of runs this thing is going to score (those bats will come around) near as much as I’m concerned about how many runs they’re going to give up.
Padilla sucking was not in the blueprint and just think about what’s going to happen when, not if, McCarthy goes down.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just providing the whole picture
I was curious to compare the numbers, given your post, so thought I would provide the info to anyone else reading this thread who might be similarly curious.
The “spelling error” (actually a usage error, feint is also a word) was just an aside.
by mgb5 on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, there are a lot of people with shovels still running behind me
Ya’ll try to stay orderly and mix in the truth when applicable, ya hear!?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, I want to be friendly
Even compassionate. But those are not shovels, they are manure forks.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 24, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ed,
Care to be more specific?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there anything on the planet
More specific than a manure fork?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 25, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shovels are needed
to clean up the crap you leave in nearly every post, oh large headed one.
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by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are my new hero
for correctly identifying a usage error.
by jwiscarson on Apr 24, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
Right off the Salty bandwagon and back on the Teagarden one.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither one of the catchers have been good at the plate
this year.
I think Teagarden would benefit from more playing time and there’s no legit reason why the two shouldn’t be getting equal time at this point.
I still believe in Teagarden but he’s not getting enough chances.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You realize...
…than Teagarden is the player that Daniels drafted, right?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You realize...
that a great deal of JD’s future employment with the club depends upon the success of the Teixeira Trade, right?
Kind of explains why Harrison & Andrus were fast-tracked to The Show before they were ready and why Salty is currently getting the nod over TT.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus clearly isn't ready
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Currently on pace for 50 errors in 130 games
I’ve read about his swagger and charisma (and the cute “The Future Is Here” Tshirts that he wore) but I hadn’t read anywhere about him being prone to fits of the dreaded Knoblauch Sax Throwing Syndrome.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen his UZR?
Or does your baseball knowledge hit a brick wall once you get past errors.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
The success or failure of players he traded for have a bigger impact on his future than the success or failure of players he drafted?
If Teagarden and Holland kick ass, and Salty and Feliz flop, Daniels is a goner, but if Teagarden and Holland suck and Salty and Feliz are great, he stays?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD's fate is probably tied to how the club
performs more than anything but early on, he was a wrecking ball to this team’s future and we are currently paying the consequences for his early incompetency.
Remember the hiring and extension of Ron Washingtong? John Danks, AG, Galarraga, Soriano and Chris Young, ring a bell?
Given that this thing is probably going to be much closer to 73-89 than 83-79, it’d make him look a heckuva lot better at the end of this season if he can point to the Tex Trade and say the centerpiece of the trade (at the time) is not a back-up catcher.
If you don’t believe things get politcal in major league front offices, you’ve never spoken to a major league baseball player.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
Who cares how the deal worked out, the player who was supposed to be the “centerpiece of the trade at the time” is the only thing that matters. Who cares how the other 4 players did/are doing, its all about that one player. Vintage Josey.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
If you don’t believe things get politcal in major league front offices, you’ve never spoken to a major league baseball player.
I know they get political. And you didn’t answer my question about Salty/Feliz’s success or failure being more important than Teagarden/Holland’s.
However, as it turns out, I’m wrong about Teagarden…he was a Hart draftee, not a Daniels draftee. So nevermind.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't answer the question as it was posed because
I don’t consider those ramifications as relevant to JD’s future as I do how the club performs.
If the team goes 91-71 this year, all four players could fall prey to epic fail but JD would still be safe.
If the team goes 73-89, everybody goes under the microscope.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, this doesn't make sense
I don’t consider those ramifications as relevant to JD’s future as I do how the club performs.
You suggested that Salty is playing instead of Teagarden, not because Salty is better, but because Daniels wants to make the Teixeira trade look good for his job security.
But then you say that the team’s success will have more of an impact on Daniels’ future than how the players from the Teixeira trade do.
So, in other words, if Daniels is worried about his job security — which you clearly indicate he is, based on your comments about Salty playing instead of Teagarden — he’s going to want to have the best players who give the team the best chance of winning out there.
So your original comment about Salty playing because of the Teixeira trade and wanting that deal to look good is inherently contradicted by your later argument about wins and losses being what will dictate job security.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In particular, and specifically
The issue was Salty’s versus Tea’s comparative performance within team performance, and somehow it gets sidetracked into some impact on JD’s job retention? I guess themes can override any analysis, after all!
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 24, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a theme, Ed
when you are trying to figure out exactly why Harrison is in this rotation when he’s not ready and why JD thought playing a 20 year old SS would be a good idea.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because the 20yr old has a hell of a lot of talent
and is better defensively than the ss they had last year.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 24, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We agree that he has a helluva lot of talent
but this bottle of wine has been opened too soon. He’s probably going to be good major league player by the time he’s 25.
I just think he’d have a much better chance of success if he made his splash as a 22 year old instead of as 20 year old.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think
he’ll be better next year than this year?
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by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows about next year when he's 21?
He could be better or he could have his confidence beaten down so hard that it hurts his development.
I’d have a lot of the same concerns if Andrus was a year older right now just because I think you have to be a very special player to do well in The Show as a 21 year old.
A 20 year old in The Show who hasn’t hit above .720 OPS in AA when he made that many errors as well?
He is being asked to do something that is almost impossible to achieve and my hope is that his development is not stunted because I think he has a chance to eventually be a pretty good player.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam, To me
Neither Salty & Teagarden has distinguished themselves as the superior player but I think Salty is getting the nod when he hasn’t earned it simply because he was the centerpiece of the Tex Trade.
If Teagarden was superior and giving the team a better chance to win, JD would have to swallow hard and admit he screwed the pooch yet again.
Make sense?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
If Teagarden was superior and giving the team a better chance to win, JD would have to swallow hard and admit he screwed the pooch yet again.
Huh? How would that mean he “screwed the pooch”?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the centerpiece to the trade of a HOF potential
player should not be a back-up catcher.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Because we currently have two good young major league catchers, Daniels screwed the pooch.
But if Teagarden were suddenly to throw his back out and not be able to play, and we had Adam Melhuse as our other option, then the Teixeira trade is okay.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daniels screwed the pooch
when he hired and extended Ron Washington. Along those same lines screaming “I’m A Ron Washington Man” was another time the pooch took the high hard one.
He screwed the pooch when he traded both Chris Young & AG for a bag of rocks.
He screwed the pooch when he traded Soriano in a contract year for Wilkerson (and I’ll get to Galarraga).
He screwed the pooch when he traded John Danks for Brandon McCarthy.
He screwed the pooch when he spent $ 4.5 million on JJennings and in the process of making room on the 40, DFA’d Galarraga.
So you see, Boy Blunder has spent a lot of time screwing dogs over the last 4 years and it would behoove him to have the centerpiece of the Tex Trade not become a back-up catcher, especially if this team goes 73-89.
I don’t consider Salty to be a part of JD’s long history of screwing dogs yet but it would be nice if the competition between Salty & Teagarden was on a little more level playing field.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovely
Your Salty argument doesn’t make sense, so you go back to the litany of other bitches you have.
Just admit defeat on this issue and move on. As you note above, it isn’t like there aren’t plenty of other things you can carp about.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Salty argument is that
the competition between Teagarden & Salty isn’t being held on a level playing field and I suspect politics (a worried GM who has been castrated by his owner) are involved.
Why does that not make sense to you? Do you believe it has been fair and if so, why?
You’re the one who tried to put words into my mouth re screwing the pooch.
It appeared as though you needed some enlightenment on what I considered to be screwing the pooch so I provided examples.
For the record, I don’t consider that JD screwed the pooch on the Tex Trade. It needs to play out some more before a decision is rendered.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The g.m. has been castrated by the owner...
…yet still has enough power to dictate who the starting catcher is, and is doing so in a manner that is hurting the team, but that might make something he did a couple of years ago appear better.
Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. You might want to start breaking the Prozacs in half before you take them.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 24, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Adam,
Has JD had his power diminished since Nolan became his boss?
Per the catching situation…I’m theorizing obviously but as you admitted previously, front office politics do exist and there has been more than a discernible pattern regarding how the players acquired in the Tex Trade have been treated.
Salty wasn’t very good last year and is hitting .190 this year (with a .227 obp) so ask yourself, why does Teagarden only play once a week?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A discernable pattern
Yep, when these major league quality talents are deemed ready, they get a shot in Arlington. What is Teagarden’s OBP right now? The season is two weeks old but you’re ready to say Salty (who is younger than Teagarden) has had more than enough time. The front office and coaching staff work with these guys every single day, but I’m sure you’re right and they’re wrong.
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by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tball
I don’t think Teagarden is going to be successful when he plays once a week. He’s looked awful the last two games I’ve watched him.
If Salty had proven himself to be the superior player both at and behind the plate, I’d say tough bleep to Teagarden because winning is the priority but that hasn’t been the case.
Salty has been given the vast majority of the playing time and really hasn’t done anything with it either last year or this year which suggests he is superior.
Why does everybody, especially Adam, have their panties in a bunch over this?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're trying to make you answer a question.
You say:
You realize…
that a great deal of JD’s future employment with the club depends upon the success of the Teixeira Trade, right?
Then say…
JD’s fate is probably tied to how the club
performs more than anything but early on, he was a wrecking ball to this team’s future and we are currently paying the consequences for his early incompetency.
I believe we all just want to know: which one is it? Is winning more important? Or is Salty/Harrison/Andrus more important?
by jwiscarson on Apr 24, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I’m sure that is the ONLY factor in the playing time decision. It has nothing to do with Teagarden’s health and contact issues or Salty’s improved defense and hard work over the winter, and the team couldn’t possibly really believe that Salty is the better player and should be given a chance to start consistently. No, none of that could be true, it must have everything to do with Daniels poochiness.
The above is much more relevant when discussing your selective confirmation bias.
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by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man
I come here for baseball discussion, and instead wander into a discussion on bestiality!
Now if someone can tell me how Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud works as a metaphor for Ranger pitching, then I might be more interested…
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Apr 24, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RC
People in here are starting to get edgy because….well, the team started playing games that mattered and the team, like I said throughout the off-season, isn’t very good.
See the 6-9 start v. teams where Texas was supposed to make hay.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this may sound like I'm bagging on Salty
but I’m not.
I like Salty and believe he has a chance to be a good player.
I just don’t think he’s proven himself to be clearly better than Teagarden at this point and if he was playing once a week, he’d probably be sucking at the plate as well. Jeeez, he plays 5-6 games a week and sucks as it is up to this point.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny
because when you go thru this thread you can see that it’s me on the receiving end of all the insults and attacks when all I’ve done is question why the catchers are being used in the manner they are when neither one of them has proven superiority.
Did I miss an insult that I threw at another poster in here?
As every game is played, people in here are getting a razor sharp edge and more and more protective of their precious little JD.
Probably with good cause because Nolan said he expected this thing to go 87-75 and that ain’t happening, buddy.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does not compute

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think both players have been even in their amount
of suck they’ve brought to the table this year but Salty is getting the nod because he was the centerpiece to the Tex Trade.
I think the playing time should be 50-50 at this point. Teagarden clearly can’t play once a week and be effective.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 24, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
What happens if Pina proves that he can hit? He started showing some signs last season and has gotten off to a hot start this year. His defense is supposed to be right up there with Teagarden’s, if not better. He’s only 22 now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 24, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
steel cage grudge match to the death.
the thunderdome of catching is the only answer
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Apr 24, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on
Pina is going to have to hit a LOT for a LONG TIME before I even think of him as anything more than a defensive specialist. Right now he is showing signs of being a good backup catcher with great defense. If Teagarden never clicks with the bat Pina might be worth more just because he doesn’t strike out much.
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by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing Salty went 3-4 last night too
Or else, DFA him, DFA Teagarden, DFA MaxRam, and we’ll go Pina for 162 games.
I do hope he keeps showing off a much improved bat. He’s going to be my starting catcher pick if Salty fails.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Apr 25, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind Lewin's comments TOO much...
but I wish he didn’t move like his neck is wired in place. I hate the way he turns his whole body to look at TAG (or anyone else he’s talking to).
by Wemedge on Apr 24, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Yeah, stop trying to be a contortionist up there.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on Apr 24, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Lewin
just don’t make eye contact…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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by WhipSmart on Apr 24, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's very awkward
yet likeable
I imagine I’d look a LOT worse up there than he does…so I can’t complain
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was also wondering how bad the Rangers would be if they lost Lackey and Santana...
Then I realized we don’t have pitchers of that quality to lose to injury at the top of our rotation. Though I hope Holland and Neftali will correct that soon enough.
by Wemedge on Apr 24, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
'09 Rangers
as RHB: .326/.390/.604
as LHB: .191/.250/.367
Kind of random that all of the LHB would be simultaneously sucking through the first 15 games.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that is interesting
didnt notice the distinction until you brought it up how all the guys that were off to good starts (Kins, MY, Byrd, AJ, Cruz) were RHB
by Royal Swine on Apr 24, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And kind of odd
that the lefties sucking would produce that kind of split.
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by t ball on Apr 24, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IKE on BaDD Radio at 1:10
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny hearing him recount the O'Day situation.
O’Day got into his cab as MY was hitting the tying homer.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 24, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
question
Can the Rangers win the WS or even a playoff series with Rudy as thier hitting coach?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
follow up
who’s on the mound for us?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 24, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A league avg
rotation that is good enough to win the AL West.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're
worried about the wrong thing.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 24, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not completely
I agree that pitching is the Rangers’ #1 problem. With their current approach at the plate, I am not convinced that even league average pitching would get them into the playoffs.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on Apr 24, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rudy
They’ve made it to three playoff series with him as the hitting coach, so I don’t see why not.
Incidentally, how many hitting coaches stay with the same team for 15 seasons and work under four different managers? I’d bet not many.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Apr 24, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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