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Well, Matthew Stafford has reportedly signed with the Lions for the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history.  I have no problem with athletes making obscene amounts of money and  I think Stafford will be a pretty good QB in the league.  However, it just seems really weird to have a guy who hasn't played a down of pro football making more money than veteran guys who have been in Pro Bowls and won Super Bowls.  Listening to the commish on the radio yesterday though leads me to think that might be changing soon.

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I think

We’ve gotten to the point that the free market can no longer be counted on to depress the salaries.

I don’t think a strict cap would be beneficial either, though, because it would eliminate any wiggle room teams at the top had to save some money.

The slotting system of baseball seems to be good, but maybe NFL could add a multiplier cap hit for every million over slot a team goes.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of like the nba's system

of set dollar amount contracts per draft slot.
probably one of the few things about the nba i like

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boldin

can be had for a 2nd rounder? The Roy Williams deal gets worse by the day…..

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 24, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is Josey's

apprentice.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 25, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Full disclosure

When I saw that note on ESPN on my phone, I wondered the same thing.

Is it a salary difference for the two players, or an ability difference?

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Apr 25, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

draft sucks

when your team doesnt have a 1st rounder :(

by kumizi on Apr 25, 2009 1:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

compared to the last few years

ive definitely not followed this draft as extensively as years past

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

draft

the talent in this years draft is much worse than last year though, so if you had to pick a year not to have a 1st rounder to give money to this is the year.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a top pick

I’d be real tempted to pass.

4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.

by DJCahill on Apr 25, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stafford

I’m actually kind of happy that he’s going first overall, because when I was playing football in high school he was just starting at Highland Park, and we went to their place and proceeded to get our asses handed to use by him.

So now later in life I can tell my kids that Stafford, who went number one, kick my team’s ass when I played against him in high school…….

That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....

by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea same here

except in my case he kicked our ass in 8th grade, and even then there was tons of buzz around him

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheap plug alert

i did a fantastic podcast with a draft guru/analyst and i would love for you guys to check this out:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Mitchell-Clemons/2009/04/23/NFL-Draft-Preview

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm

not feeling the draft today at all. I could care less what happens. As long as Boldin doesn’t land in the NFC East I’ll be happy.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 8:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isnt this why Mavs are scheduled for same time first round of picks are

Ir seems only poetic to ignore the draft for the time of the game, and when its over, its 2nd round time and hopefully Jerry doesn’t blow another 2nd rd pick.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

So the draft is starting at 3 p.m.?

Isn’t that a lot later than usual?

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

They wanted it to be primetime. Whatever. Only 2 rounds today.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

i was wondering because if they did the usual first day it wouldnt be over till midnight

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

1-2 today. 3-7 tomorrow starting at 9.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a lot later

its usually like 10 or 11am.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's so they

can have a ridiculously drawn out predraft show.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 25, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

it’s pretty stupid to change it and have it compete with so many other sporting events that are goibng on this afternoon.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

X

I need to take back what I said about the Nuggets.

I have been following them closely in this Hornets series and it hasn’t even been competitive.

Nobody other than Chris Paul looks like they belong on the floor right now. The way that Dahntay Jones is mushing him, I don’t see Paul getting off at any rate.

The Nuggets will be a tough out in this playoffs. A team that stacked that is clicking on all cylinders — it’s just too many weapons.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still not buying.

New Orleans is just horrible.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don't match up at all

Whereas NO would give us fits, no?

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denver will handle us just easy.

But if they want to play with the Lakers, ’Melo would have to take it the next level.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy is 24 -- just amazing.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

job by NO nearly choking an 11 point lead with 3 to go.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

same as last year

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess so

I thought this was the 1st year of 1-2 1st day.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

Last year was 1-2 only, and I’m fairly certain it started at 3.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Stafford is going to struggle

Not just as a rookie, but as someone who doesn’t have a high completion percentage in college which does not translate to the pros. People fall in love with the big arm, but the window is smaller in the NFL. Give me someone who is more accurate.

The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.

by NothinG on Apr 25, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the overall talent...

in this draft is a far less than in previous years.

Stafford is not going to be a good NFL QB. Mark it down.

Crabtree is the best player in this draft.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 25, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Predictions on draft picks is like any gamble

Anyone predict Roth in Pitts to be as good as he has been. If the team around them is developed the skys the limit on these guys. I still see the a few of these skilled Wr and Rb be the best in the draft. Crabtree seems like an Andre Johnson clone, that will need help before becoming a superstar.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who else is pissed that Arizona

lowered the price on Boldin to a 2nd plus other considerations? Looks like we really got screwed on the RW deal.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerry never learned lesson from Galloway trade

Wr developed within system is alot better than trading for one.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

He never learned? That’s why we have Austin and/or Crayton slotted to start, with Hurd as a nice backup?

I can’t stand people who speak in such broad generalizations.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt say that Austin and Crayton arent good pickups

But to risk 1st and 3rd when the lions dont want you, and the league was down on a player. Rather, them invest in a WR in this years draft, where it is loaded with Wr, even a guy like Harvin would be the speed element missing from this team other than Felix Jones. The last time they developed a wr in first 4 rds was 2002 and Antonio Bryant.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harvin isn't even on the Cowboys draft board

Maybe 1 receiver from this class will give you more than Roy the next couple of years.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

Harvin isn’t good.

I’d take him in the 5th as a special teamer. Nothing else.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only said Harvin since he is dropping

But no his off the field actions might sway the Cowboys from even thinking about him. But his speed is top of the line. His ability to catch and run with the ball was off the charts in Fl. But, this team needs a speed receiver, thats why I never liked the RW trade, we were getting a possession receiver when we have Clayton and Hurd doing same thing.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

looked good on KO returns

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it matters where they draft a guy?

I’d rather just get a good player, and the lower he comes, the better for us.

Believe me, you hope and pray that a guy like Barden or Nicks someday comes close to being Roy Williams.

You say “loaded” and I kindly point you to the high bust rate of wideouts.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The real question

Is did we make the right decision to trade down in ’07?

In other words, is Felix Jones more important than Dwayne Bowe?

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so. Felix was a game changer

If he comes back playing like he did and stays healthy, wow.. him and Barber will make a very dynamic duo.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, they didnt want to draft,a wr, Jerry is weary on drafting them

High anyways. But that draft we moved up to get Spencer, hope he was worthit,

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

They moved down and then up to get Spencer.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His upside is still exciting people, IIRC.

He just needs to show more than flashes.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But if we were really looking at busts

How about drafting a TE 2 yrs in a row in 2nd rd no less. Thats what you call bad drafting. First one then in only package getting 4th rd pick.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We didn't do that.

Fasano was ’06, and Bennett ’08.

Fasano was a reach, and Bennett was absolute value.

One bad pick and one fantastic one.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto, but dont get why invest in a backup position with 2nd rd pick

Bennet though seems like a starter, but Fasano was destined to be backup.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

The Parcells offense utilized a lot of two TE sets.

He wasn’t destined to be a backup, he just performed like one.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats what I would want for this team as well

Dont worry about fearing a position, but just draft best available.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But then

You complain about taking a backup TE in the second round.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fasano wasnt the best available,

This was Parcells using his buddy system to draft.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same thing with Carpenter

Seemed more of a drafting based on personal relationships than true talent.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bennett was a true 2nd value pick

If not 1st rd pick for his lack of stats in A&M. He never developed for my Aggies, with the lack of passing attack or quality Qbs.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely.

They give guys grades and rank them, so why not pick based on that?

If some guy with a first round grade (like Bennett last year) falls to you at the bottom of the 2nd, you have to take regardless of position.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't we have a 2nd rounder?

If Jerry wants him Jerry will get him. Ive learned to never doubt the man on draft day

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 25, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

but Boldin wants a new deal. Jones just built the stadium and I doubt all tix are sold (see new Yankee Stadium). Finances will be a concern with having to pay Ware, i imagine. From a straight-up football perspective it’s a no-brainer.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it's not.

I don’t get all this bitching about Boldin (BTW, red shoe ranger already bitched about this in this thread, so I’m not sure why you started a new rant).

Values are different at different times. Trading for a team’s nominal #1 in the middle of the season is just different than trading for a #2 on the edge of the draft. It’s no different than baseball, where a team can get squeezed at the trade deadline.

In any case, I wish Jerry had followed through on his desire in ’07 in to move up to the very top of the draft to draft Calvin Johnson, who is unbelievably amazing.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

1st I didn’t see the other thread so sorry about that. I’m confused what you’re saying No it’s not in response too. What is your stance here? It seems like you want Boldin but I said I want him too.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want Boldin.

Even if we’re just talking about starting a franchise, I’d rather have Williams.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not instead of the RW move

but in real-life, so in addition to it.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not.

That would be a gigantic mistake.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither.

I just don’t want to trade away our whole draft for two wide receivers.

We have pressing needs at NT, S, LB, and smaller needs at OT and WR.

With all that being said, I’m going to do fucking cartwheels if Alex Mack falls to us at 51.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's Alex Mack

I wouldn’t be surpised if we go OT with if the right player is there with our first pick.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Move him to guard?

Or move Gurode?

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd

Let him be a Gurode clone for awhile—backup C who can rotate to both guard spots.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The obstacle for Dallas

would probably be as much money as draft picks, particularly given what they paid Williams and what they’re eating.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 25, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right here

Can’t believe that a NY or Philly could get Boldin for much less than Dallas got Williams. And Boldin wanted to be here. Ugh.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 25, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get

The seeming perception that Boldin and Williams are the same player.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

statistically Boldin is much better.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad argument.

McCown and Warner are infinitely better than anybody Williams has had.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's hyperbole

Kitna threw for more than 4,000 yards in 2006 and 2007. McCown is not good.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

By that logic, Kitna is better than McNabb.

I look to more than yards.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

That it was a bit of hyperbole to say that McCown is “infinitely” better than Kitna. In fact, I don’t think he’s better than Kitna at all. So I retract that.

But the fact is McCown and Boldin only played together for a season and a half.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Warner>Kitna

I also think Brady>Cassell but Wes welker had nearly the same statistical season reception and yardage wise this year and the year before..but I don’t think Brady and Cassell are equal. So I’m not sure how much QB talent has to do with it.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x

I think there’s a big difference between being the slot guy in a high-discipline offense and being the #1 threat on a bad team.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Randy Moss suffered.

Cassell dinked and dunked quite a bit.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

my point is who the QB is doesn’t neccesarily mean the same thing for all WR.

by Agreen07 on Apr 25, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what you said has no more validity than what agreed did

its all opinion.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm?

Who said otherwise?

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well..

saying “bad argument” gives that impression

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It shouldn't.

It is a bad argument in my opinion, just as mine is bad to him. It’s all opinion, as you said.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I don’t understand being upset by the difference in value otherwise.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well..

getting boldin for a 2nd rounder is a lot better deal than what the cowboys gave up for williams.
i think thats what the general point is.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But only

If you don’t believe there’s a talent gap.

Yeah, getting Matt Leinart for a 5th round pick would be better than getting Tom Brady for a 1st, but which would you rather do?

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there isnt

all thats being equal i’d take boldin over williams.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty simple

though I understand that you’re just saying that you disagree on the players in relation to each other:

Boldin > Roy
2nd rd + ? < 1 rd + 3 rd – 5th rd

The Giants or Eagles will get more for less and the contracts will be pretty close.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 25, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

You’re right that I disagree.

And that ? seems likely to be a player, which may or may not hit the cap more severely.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’ve wondered how much of this supposed Arizona leak of “we’re willing to take a 2nd” is really just Philly or NY passing that around to ESPN.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tennessee, Colts, Baltimore, NY, Philly, Wash(?)

Peyton Manning isn’t getting any younger, that offense should shoot right back up to arguably the best in the league with Boldin.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Colts

Need defensive help, especially since Dungyball is gone.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me, keeping there offense dynamic should be the 1st priority

Chances are, if they draft a defensive player with their 1st pick, he won’t impact their W-L record in the end.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure about that.

Besides, I think they can get a talented WR in the second.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stafford

representing Highland Park High School.

Time to celebrate

"Being successful in life isn't about how smart you are or how hard you try, its how big of an ego you have." - Miles

by miles on Apr 25, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Too bad you hate the guy

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by DaheelzCM on Apr 25, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true that

"Being successful in life isn't about how smart you are or how hard you try, its how big of an ego you have." - Miles

by miles on Apr 25, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seemed like it

The one time I met him at a football camp. Seemed to me that he thought he was better than anyone else there

That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....

by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As of now no

But I knew that he was going to get a lot of offers for college, and there were a lot of scouts there, yet he just blew off all of them and barely participated at all during the camp. Friend of mine was in the QB group that Stafford was in, and when other QBs were throwing, he heard him saying things like “Oh, that kid would be lucky just to get an offer….”

That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....

by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not

Arguing that he’s not a douche—I don’t know one way or the other, and you seem to have way more knowledge about it than I do.

I’m just saying the guy was probably (read: definitely) better than everyone else.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I'm not doubting you

Those scouts were there for them. He had a hell of an arm and some good smarts back then (don’t know about now)

Just seemed cocky all the way back then

That's not hail you see in Frisco....that just Justin Smoak's Home Runs coming back into orbit....

by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya 2005

62-0

That was legit

"Being successful in life isn't about how smart you are or how hard you try, its how big of an ego you have." - Miles

by miles on Apr 25, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes he did

HP destroyed my Alma Mater in the title game 59-0.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by DaheelzCM on Apr 25, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I work at Mount Sinai hospital in New York,

making the website.

Yesterday a couple friends who write the internal newsletter said, hey, come see the big NFL prospects hang out in the sick kids’ ward at the hospital, we’re going to photograph it.

So we went over, and I hung out with about a dozen NFL first-rounders.

They did a closed-circuit call-in TV show for patients who couldn’t leave their rooms. Jason Smith came off as the best spoken. So long as he stays healthy he presents as impossible-to-fail NFL talent.

Later on Stafford and another one (I too am unversed on this year’s draft) played Guitar Hero and then the winner took on a little kid with a stent in who destroyed him.

It was cool, the players almost outnumbered the lay people in the room, just a small group of folks with this mob of young athletic celebrities talking to a couple kids. Right before it ended I talked to a guy from FOX Sports, and asked if Detroit was taking Stafford. He was flipping through his blackberry and said, “well, I’ll probably know before he does.” I think the guy was still playing Guitar Hero at that point.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Apr 25, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be interested to see what the Cowboys do.

Some people would say, “Oh, they don’t have a first rounder, it doesn’t matter.” But think about how savvy the Cowboys have been with later-round picks in their history.

Marion Barber was a fourth-rounder. Jay Ratliff was a seventh-rounder. Hell, I know it’s ancient history, but the Cowboys drafted Mel Renfro, Bullet Bob Hayes and Roger Staubach in one draft.

Should be interesting.

Seeking a new signature...

by ghtd36 on Apr 25, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and...

…as a Missouri fan, I would pay a significant amount of money to keep Jeremy Maclin away from Oakland. But it seems like an inevitablilty now.

Seeking a new signature...

by ghtd36 on Apr 25, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno about that.

Crabtree might be falling.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maclin's too nice a guy...

…to deserve to go to Oakland.

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by ghtd36 on Apr 25, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

she’s a cute girl who sometimes goes for the hot girl look, sometimes goes for the ‘I don’t quite know the difference between what’s cutting edge style and what makes me look like a clown’, and sometimes for ’I’m a tall, skinny girl with big cans, but I’m going to try to look like a boy’. Today she went with the hot girl look.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 25, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rachel Nichols

Mmmmm…Rachel Nichols…

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 25, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only approrpriate

appropriate to link this. USC great Maualuga.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

nice.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Nichols the red head?

That NEVER blinks when she’s doing an interview? Just watch her, she never does….scary kind of

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder if Stafford is calling Miles right now on that cell phone

For advice on how to have status?

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man

Could it be any more obvious how many millions of miles above Tags Goodell is?

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at least he pronounces names better

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He does everything better.

I’m not a fan of the late start, but everything else about Goodell is better, including the demand that the first team turn their fucking card in immediately when they’ve already signed their guy.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And cutting down the time between picks

Huge improvement there

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

over under on how many drafted players hit on andrews?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Apr 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Top 2 picks

Are both Dallas boys……..

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

okay , good

glad yall have a fanpost up on this.

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good gosh

NFL network coverage is so much better than ESPN’s. If Kiper was at the NFL Network it would be perfect. The idiots Young, Meshawn, and Berman never let Kiper talk…

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Jackson at 3…..everyone had Curry there

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Everybody switched to Jackson about 48 hours ago.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

admittedly, i never really heard of this guy until the last week or so…

workout beast it seems like…

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Spears 2.0

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this draft class is horrible

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some did, some didn't

KC needs more LB help than anything else, so everyone thought that it was a match made in heaven between Curry and KC…..but then again, KC is switching to the 3-4, so Jackson was the top linemen for it

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curry

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curry

He has too much value to pass on right now.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kiper has Browns taking Sanchez

that will be interesting. Quinn too who…Denver? San Fran?

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cleveland

Is trying to make a lot of dumb decisions.

Hopefully they can control themselves and just take the best player in the draft.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett

is your running back depth … yikes.

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by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seattle's picks

Going to shake up the board…..in 3, 2, 1……..

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not its time to play

Who has the best deal to trade up for Sanchez

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh

Another Ced Benson.

by brettgardner on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

er?

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's smart

sanchez would have been stooopid

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Spurs getting a lot of odd calls.

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by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now a 14-1 run for the Mavs

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

That T on Dirk was ridiculous

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Kidd serving up open shots …

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by Chase Irwin on Apr 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking indian food right now

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wash gonna trade up

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez?

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, true that

i don’t see what’s wrong with Campbell…seems like a good QB to me.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, Jets trade up

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez.

Well it’s too bad he sucks

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like Stafford either.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez has only started 16 games

And he has had pro prospects all around him. Good luck in the New Jersey.

by gamerabcd on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

this is Tim Couch, Akili Smith revisited.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

This is the quarterback of USC.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kellen Clemens

feels like Metcalf right now.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bu bu but

ron jaworski thinks he’s really good.

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With their QB situation

Hell I like him too

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid NY fans

they need to move the draft year to year….

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the package?

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elam, Former Cowboy great.

Yeah. I agree with Longhorn. Not that great of a package on the surface.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is a piss poor package

Mangini got his ass handed to him….

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're crazy

You said yourself this draft class is horrible. The difference between the 5th and 17th may not be that great. You get a 2nd rounder, and 2 players that can be used.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesn't matter

it’s still value. Value doesn’t change. And the Browns just fucked that up…but i’m really not surprised with mangini running that team…

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

the draft value chart does not change.

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

and reality says Mangini is an idiot.

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

reality is

You can pick a player at #5 or move back to #17, get a similar player, and collect a 2nd round pick.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, value says

that’s not enough for the 5 pick.

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

you wanted them to get something that wasn’t there?

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

that’s 2 UFA’s, dallas kicked those 2 to the curb, Ratliff? Please…

they moved up from 17-5 for a 2nd.

Browns got raped.

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no they won't

those players you can find on the waiver wire…

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he knows a system of a team that sucks?

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wha?

that’s it?? Browns got took…

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Crabtree goes here I'd think

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scratch that.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andre "Shirtless" Smith instead

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really Cincy?

The last thing Cincy needs is another player with a checkered record.

by cmkelly29 on Apr 25, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely true

and I think Smith will probably be a great pro. It just seems strange to me that they would go with Smith.

by cmkelly29 on Apr 25, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit

Anyone see the tits right behind Reggie Miller?

WOW

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching the Mavs telecast

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Heres what im talking about

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Apr 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guy in the glasses behind her

Bet ya he hasn’t watched a second of basketball

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I love the Raiders.

by LiamP on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Good pick.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Raiders…….

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh My God.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what hpapend? watching the mavs

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Heward Bey to the Raiders

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason

I really really love Hakeem Nicks. Hope he slides.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Nicks is the best one of them all, to me.

by tyd3311 on Apr 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did good in college

Yet hear he was really unprepared for the Combine and the meetings with the teams (one even said that he came out of shape for all of them), so that might make him fall

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by Smoak Some on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm doing.

Ticket on the radio Mavs on TV Laptop on this thread.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 25, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what woah

what?? Bey???

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

damn, i'm starvin'

what are yall eating?

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by Longhorn on Apr 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Turkey, cheese, mustard

on a wheat wrap.

Lame on my part.

by cmkelly29 on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs