New Blog: Crops on the Farm
Longtime LSB reader and first time poster. Me and a group of my friends have started a blog to follow the Rangers #1 ranked farm system. I just posted a top 10 prospect list to help kick off the site. We will feature player profiles, analysis and hopefully some interviews. I'd love to read any feedback or advice on how to make this site a regular stop for LSB readers.
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Always great to have more information about the farm
Diamond above Perez on your top 10?
Please tell Ron Spellman to learn how to use spell check and how to use the shift key before he posts again. That was a beating to read.
Good luck with the site.
Thanks, bioaggie
Let’s just say that Ronnie isn’t the best with technology. I’ll mention the mistakes to him. Sorry about that.
I don’t know much about Perez. I know that everybody loves him but I haven’t seen him pitch yet. How long before he reaches Frisco?
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 27, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Strange top ten list
How is Andrus ahead of Feliz or Holland? I’m not sure he qualifies as a minor league prospect since he’s not in the minors. And Diamond is a reach for the top 25, imho. And Arias…really? I could think of 30 guys down on the farm who are better prospects than that noodle-armed has-been. I don’t know how you’re evaluating, but it certainly doesn’t jive with the dozens of other prospect lists that I’ve read. Good luck all the same.
That's why they call them business sox
Greetings, Finnerty.
Which do you believe in more?
A. Clutch
B. Sabermetrics
C. Marcus Lemon
Can I answer?
I will go with Lemon Head! BTW Jamey I do believe in “clutchness”
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Strange question
FIrst of all, thanks for asking. I get your reports and I’m a big fan of your work. I don’t know much about Marcus Lemon except that he is killing the ball and hitting over 300. I like sabermetrics but I’m still a novice. I like clutch players as well. Not sure which one I believe in more.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 27, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Final three sentences.
Oddly, yet intriguingly, nuanced.
by Jamey Newberg on Apr 27, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
D. Scaploading
By a landslide.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Apr 27, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Objection, your Honor.
B and C are the same thing.
It’s like saying:
Which do you believe in more?
a) Unicorns.
b) Powerful baseball-blogging lawyers with hearts so wretched and black that they are incapable of anything but the most hateful hate when it comes to Marcus Lemon.
c) The Newberg.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm in a bad mood
So I’ll go ahead and say it…your site isn’t any good.
When what you have to offer in the way of analysis is “he’s in the majors, enough said” you should probably not bother.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
Stick a fork in em they are done!
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
There are several good Ranger blogs out there
already that have set the bar high. Ranger fans expect their bloggers to have really done their homework, so your top ten is a bit underfed in that regard. Best of luck.
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this
its a tough market to break into, especially the minor leagues because of a) the depth of knowledge about rangers + rangers prospects and b) the great minors sites out there/ppl who know about the rangers minor leaguers including, but not limited to MJH, zywica, JN, jparks, etc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
We are nearing the saturation point
when it comes to blogs like these. We may need to see some blog consolidation if you really want to get a foothold in the eyeball marketplace. As a few have stated above, we actually have quite a few Rangers related blogs with a variety of specialties (advanced scouting reports with video, thorough everyday coverage and analysis, precocious kids with advanced interviewing skills, etc). I would suggest looking around at all the blogs to see what is already out there and then finding a unique schtick or angle to present to the anonymous masses.
Good luck!
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
one more thing
and this may be a bit polarizing around here, but i am a big fan of Bill Simmons and his style of writing. He is among the Chris Connelly/Chuck Klosterman group of writers who can dance between all facets of main stream culture and seemlessly blend them to make their points. He got his start on a blog as well (back in the late ’90’s) before he became a writer for ESPN, and he is unabashedly a fan first and a sportswriter second, which makes his writing easy to relate to. He mixes in pop culture references and often takes unique angles in his coverage. I recommend reading his book “Now I Can Die in Peace”, which collects his writings about being a Red Sox fan up to their WS championship in 2004. Tthere are definitely parallels between his “i don’t care how much they screw me i still love this team” sentiments and being a Rangers fan…right up until they finally turned it around.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Jerk me off with a spoon.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Just one spoon?
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
That would take forever
unless it’s some kind of sexy-sex spoon.
That's why they call them business sox
hopefully
the blog can some day be as good as rangersorrobbers.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
Lonerangers >>rangersorrobbers
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Apr 27, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You suck griffey!
Nobody deserves Nadia! A dog could roll out of bed and have a better blog than her sorry ass. lol
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Well this is true
God she is horrible
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
This is going to come off as mean..
…and for that I apologize.
But I don’t understand the infatuation with writing by people that can not write. Look it is a talent, and a practiced skill to be able to write something that other people find entertaining. There are plenty of very, very knowledgeable people in this community that do not write blogs because no one would read them. I find my own writing ability to be absolutely putrid, and will be amazed if three people even finish reading this comment. Thus I would never try to start a blog.
Also incredibly underrated is the ability to come up with topics and comparisons and rants that people will actually want to read. Anyone can compile a list of links which is often the backbone of daily blogs, but it’s the well articulated opinions and talking point that separate a blog like this from an RSS reader compiling links from newspapers and other sources.
So…I dunno. If your initial foray into Ranger blogging is a half-baked top ten prospect list with 75 words of analysis, I’m just not sure what the future holds in a blog market already saturated with excellent writers.
One caveat to all this: If you’re young, like in high school or younger, then ignore all of the criticisms above and practice your writing, by all means. Even then I’d still suggest perhaps trying to put up a few fan posts on a blog like this and see what kind of reaction they get. You’ll at least get far, far more eyes on it.
You were right
I got to “But I don’t understand the inf……..” then I tuned out. :)
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
dont feel bad boom
i got to, “…with writing by people that can not write….” but then again, im a longhorn, so the extended attention span is not to be unexpected,but im sure some SMU kid got to, “Look it is a talent…” before they gave up so i cant talk.
PS: you guys shouldnt be so harsh on ppl, guys who start sites like Parks are an extreme rarity, guys like Cole and AJM are part of larger networks attempting to push into the modern media, and guys like Z are getting snagged up by clueless newspapers with no clue of the way to go forward, as talented as they may or may not be, and i like z’s writings, just saying. AJM’s site as good as it is is much more improved than the day it started, if all these kind of sites are judged on day 1 thats pretty sad. give them time to evolve, very few are all stars there rookie season.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
You are exactly right Jay
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
A poster
who posts for the first time with an advertisement for his blog deserves much more harshness than you gave him. If a long time member of the community wants to advertise a new blog, thats one thing, but this guys work isn’t much better than those porn ads that cropped up a couple months ago.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
Those were ads?
I though hot, local single girls wanted to meet me.
That's why they call them business sox
They just wanted your diamond encrusted turd
That is all
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
I hoped the screen name was a reference to Season 6 of the Sopranos
I’m powerless to make another first association to the word “Finnerty.”
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
FUNNY
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck to you...
but if you are going to do a blog on the Rangers farm system you are going to have to give better analysis and detail than you have so far.
Again not to be rude, but when I read some of your posts above and you say things like “I don’t know too much about Perez, Lemon, et al.”, that doesn’t help. They are part of the Rangers system, so if you’re going to do a blog about that then you should probably know more about them. There are a lot of resources out there for the Rangers. We as Rangers fans are very fortunate to have so many options. I think you have a lot of homework to do though my friend.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I guess
I better tuck my tail between my legs and go into hiding. You guys are like a pack of wolves.
A longtime reader
should know better.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by inactive lsb user on Apr 27, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Your blog
is full of useful info with nicely detailed game reports from somewhere most of us can’t get to. You have nothing to hide or apologize for.
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by t ball on Apr 27, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey i agree
i RSS it!
did your RSS feed go kind of wack?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
lol
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
To rank the top 10's as you guys did....
I have no problem with, disagree with some of them, but to me, if your going to have such a different ranking for players than many others it should of some reasoning of why. JParks was the biggest Main guy around fall but he backed it up with why he thought so (JParks, get in here and defend your boy, whats going on with him), including a lot of good information that we otherwise could not get. With that said many (including me) moved him up in our own personal rankings.
There are few blogs that I read, I come to this one to stay current with any Ranger news, follow the minor league threads hoping for some reports on our pitchers’ stuff/velocity that day, and now and then to participate in discussion. To me, the best thing a blog can do is provide information that I can’t get from other places. The best thing I’ve seen on any blog is when JParks used to chart a few innings of a pitcher with pitch type/result/velo. I also always try and catch the reports of Newberg/MJH/Parks/etc. when they make it out to fall instruct/ST and I try and catch whatever info from various people who attended the different minor league games. Then you have guys like Grant who can sometimes give inside information. Aside from the mentioned above, I don’t go to blogs to read others’ thoughts, I just want new information. But I could be in the minority in that I don’t have interest in reading about the Rangers unless its new or information that I couldn’t have gotten elsewhere.
To add...
The interviews are kind of what I’m talking about. I personally am not really interested in interviews but that its a good idea and something that can’t be found elsewhere. Differentiation is key in my opinion, but I’ve never had a blog so who knows.
by groundingout on Apr 28, 2009 4:20 AM CDT up reply actions
You know what...
…after reading today’s entry, I take back my post above. This blog is going to provide a lot of laughs. Keep it up.
— Sully….IN DA HOUSE !!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
i will let these quotes speak for themselves:
6. Neftali Feliz — His numbers were beastly in 08 but I’m worried he could be a 4-AAAA since he’s walking a batter per inning in OKC. Maybe it’s time to make him a reliever? He could be downright awesome as a closer.
and LSJ comment:
No offense man but… kneejerk much? Neftali Feliz has made a grand total of four starts in OKC. He’ll be 21 next month. What say we hold off on the four-A/reliever label for a little while, huh? As for Martin Perez, he’s a 17 y/o kid whose body is still developing – which is why he only threw 61 innings last year and the Rangers are going to bring his innings along slowly this year.
At last you’re correct in your assumption about Manny Pina’s defense – in fact, up until his hot offensive start in Frisco this year the book on him had been a plus defensive catcher with a questionable bat. It’s really nice to see him finally hitting, but we’ll have to see how much the production falls off once his ridiculous .548 BABIP normalizes.
By Jon Page
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Good comment by LSJ
But I wish he wouldn’t use phrases like “17 y/o kid whose body is still developing.” When I read that, it causes me to reexamine the way I spend my free time.
Its not that bad
When you get like me and start describing players like that to your non-baseball following friends, that’s when you have to start worrying.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Haha, good point
I’m already careful about talking up Latin teenagers to my friends. Between that and following college football recruiting, I have a fair amount of creepiness in my hobbies.
This has to be a bit right?
I think I might bookmark it just to get a laugh every day.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Gotta be a bit.
But at least Sully recognizes that Smoak probably won’t play CF.
by Jamey Newberg on Apr 28, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
As long as he recognizes
that you can throw Feliz on the pile of Ranger busts
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
Yeah, there's enough ridiculous stuff in there that it has to be a bit
If only Lemon was the #1 prospect, then we could suspect Mr. D. A. Tron.
most def
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought this looked familiar....
Ron Spellman, this morning:
“And the thing about it is that he wasn’t even good last time he pitched either. He had an all-around bad night: seven hits, five runs, two walks and two strikeouts in three innings. The velocity was there, but not much else. In three starts, opponents are batting .292/.414/.396. Also, his strikeout rate is a rather mundane 19% — above the league average, but far below the 30% registered last year.”
Scott Lucas, in his 4-22 report:
“Neftali Feliz had an all-around bad night: seven hits, five runs, two walks and two strikeouts in three innings. The velocity was there, but not much else. In three starts, opponents are batting .292/.414/.396. Also, his strikeout rate is a rather mundane 19% — above the league average, but far below the 30% registered last year.”
Nice.
Thought that looked familiar
Had me looking back to see what I actually wrote. I’ll point out a “terrible performance,” but I’d never just call a player “terrible” in the NR. Oh, well. Been ripped off before. I guess it’s a compliment.
"If there is one thing I’ve learned in all my years — and I haven’t learned much — but the one thing I’ve learned: Don’t even waste your time trying to figure out life." -- Vin Scully
Another sentence fresh of the today's report
Still, he walked four, hit another, and yielded three hits to the 17 batters he faced. He also struck out three.
He combined your 4-22 analysis with todays report as well.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
See, it IS a compliment!
He’s reading me every day.
"If there is one thing I’ve learned in all my years — and I haven’t learned much — but the one thing I’ve learned: Don’t even waste your time trying to figure out life." -- Vin Scully
what's funny is:
He pitched fornot even three innings despite throwing 88 pitches in the opener.
That line doesn’t even make sense unless you explain that OKC was playing a double header. And the one part he didn’t copy verbatim, he screwed up with a typo.
still, this is less funny and a little more annoying
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
Obviously
Scott Lucas Plagiarized Ron Spellman.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
Clearly
And here I thought Lucas did all his work himself. Do the Crops on the Farm boys analyze the Pitch f/x data for Scott too?
Whoah
See, now it might be times to take the gloves off.
Does this make it more or less likely that it’s a bit?
im not sure,
but if its a bit, plagirizing is a dumb way to go
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
this has to be a joke
You know a pitching prospect isn’t any good if John Daniels doesn’t trade him away but keeps him insteaad. Remember Chris Young and John Danks and Andres Gallaraga and Edinson Volquez?
Armando Galarraga and Andres Gallaraga must be brothers, but they spell their names differently. lol
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
reading this
reminds me of “Zoolander” and his Center For Kids Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
i don't want to
dogpile, but that made me laugh
by ncrangerfan on Apr 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
has to be a bit
If Feliz doesn’t start pitching good I bet they demote him to Clinton or maybe even lower than that.
You have to try to get that many things wrong in one sentence
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
what's really crazy
is that this blog had probably recieved more traffic in the last day than mine has in the last month. It’s like that musical “The Producers”—i need to create a terrible blog, rather than just a sorta lame one.
Hopefully that’s not true, but at this rate….
I enjoy your blog
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
oh
i’m not trying to pout…it was an attempt at humor. I’m glad a handful of folks enjoy the blog, but I’d probably do it even if they didn’t.
Any chance you can
get some Brigham video tonight?
Go Rangers...don't suck...
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
that's the plan
wife has given the thumbs up. Now it’s all dependent on the teething 6 month old that hasn’t stopped screaming today. Fingers crossed….
Thanks
I really enjoy the blog.
Go Rangers...don't suck...
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 28, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i enjoy your blog
You add your own perspective, and write about what you see and draw your own conclusions from that. Well done.
I really like Frank Watts. That is a baseball fan.
The "Fire Wash Watch" is on. I say he's gone by April 26th.
+1
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
More Plagiarism, please.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
what's really crazy
is that this blog had probably recieved more traffic in the last day than mine has in the last month. It’s like that musical "The Producers"—i need to create a terrible blog, rather than just a sorta lame one.
Hopefully that’s not true, but at this rate….
by octoberty on Apr 28, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
REC
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by inactive lsb user on Apr 28, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
again i will let this comment stand on its own
Ron: You know, I’m starting to get the feeling that Feliz isn’t the ace we were told he was. Sucks. I think Beavan is the real ace in the system. I saw him pitch when he was in high school and his fastball was awesome. He blew people away. He’s an ace.
-Jimmy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
also
People can talk all the time about how good a player is going to be someday, but the player has to be a good player once in awhile and Feliz isn’t one this year at all. He has only one win so far this year and Bo (don’t call me Ricky from Major League) Vaughn has two….buit he’s only a reliever!
i think i know who writes these things: stealhome
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
along with a drunk HH and cowpoke
Remember there are three of them. Crazy shit right there.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Awesome- A Bermanism and Bull Durham reference in the same paragraph.
I wonder if Kevin Ricahrdson or Max Ramirez or Emerson (don’t call me Lake and Palmer) Frostad has asked him to throw a fastball at their chests in an alley behind a bar somwhere? I bet he’s miss them and throw it through a window or something.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Close
I was going for- ‘roll around on in a massive pile of thumbtacks, and jump in a pool of vinegar’ awesome.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
C'mon
Can you do any better? Do you have a blog? I get it that people don’t like it. That’s fine. It’s just something me and my friends are doing. If you don’t like it you don’t have to read it.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah Scoop, what Fin said damn it!
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
That's what got me.
Otherwise, I find no reason to be rude to people.
Plagiarism is gonna receive derision.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Exactly right
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
I didn't copy anybody
I’ll ask Ron about it. If he did plagiarize someone then I apologize for that. It doesn’t get us started on the right foot.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
there’s no if. If you subscribe to the Newberg Report, you would know the answer to this
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
I didn't catch it
I’ll take the heat for it. You can’t plagiarize and expect people to like you.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You need to make some new friends...
and that’s all I have to say…..ReallyCreativeScreenName in DA HOUSE!!
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 28, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
HAHHAHAHHAHHA
rec
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d love to read any feedback or advice on how to make this site a regular stop for LSB readers.
Saying ’It’s pain-in-balls bad’ is feedback. Just not feedback you’re likely to enjoy. If you had said ‘Hey guys, read my blog then say nice things about it here so I can build up my self-confidence’ I would’ve posted something different. Only slightly different, but different.
Fair enough
I guess I thought people would like the site. This just tells me that we need to work harder.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as you are open to criticism, I'll give you some real notes
- if you rated the #10 prospect in all of baseball, you probably deserve some patience before people jump off your bandwagon. calling someone 4A after they’ve only had 2 AAA starts is premature (and this is a really obvious point)
- spell the players’ names right. I mean, spell everything right, but at least get their names right. Manny Pina. Julio Borbon.
- Smoak is not going to the OF. In general, you can’t just send some person to a position that they’ve never played before. Very little research would tell you that Smoak is only a 1B and that Davis will probably move off 1B before Smoak (or someone will get traded).
I give up. Really, I think I have a problem with every line being factually incorrect or just a really simple position to take. You guys need to read up a lot more than you already do. If you don’t trust Newberg/Lucas (or don’t want to plagiarize them), at least look to other prospect sites that aren’t necessarily Ranger related. As it stands, you are doing more harm than good for anybody that actually takes you guys seriously.
You guys are just more often than not, categorically wrong
(Obviously these criticisms are directed at your friends but they aren’t here.)
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
I understand
Thanks for the notes. I understand that my top 10 wasn’t perfect, but I would never suggest that Smoak should be in the OF. I would also never take other peoples words as my own. Not my style.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
are you guys planting comments on your own posts? There’s a comment signed by ‘Jimmy’ in the Neftali thread but posted by used ‘crops’.
Huh?
I’m Jimmy. The blog was set-up using my account. I commented on my friend’s post. What’s the issue? Should I have cleared that with you first?
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
What about his fastball?
That it has Roy Halladay potential? I think it does. He blew guys away in high school and he will eventually blow guys away in the pros. You don’t have to throw 100 to have a big fastball.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
All well & good, but
I’ve heard much better reviews of his secondary pitches than his fastball since they changed his delivery. In fact, I’ve heard his slider called plus more times than his fastball.
That's inaccurate
I haven’t heard anybody call his slider a plus pitch. Where did you see that? I’d gladly admit to being wrong. I just haven’t read anything about his slider.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
it was listed in HS as a plus pitch
i thin k some called it the best slider in the draft (or one of the best)
but when they changed his motion to not throw across his body he lost the "two plane’ slider and it showed flashes iirc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
high school
so 2 years ago
thats my biggest problem, you dont use good information really…he is a totally diff kind of pitcher than he was in high school
his slider isnt quite the same — they totally re-did his motion, he has a different release point, doesnt throw across his body…
he didnt throw as hard as he did in HS
one way or another using a pitchers high school scouting report on a blog about doing a top 10 is, in a lot of ways, dumb. teams very rarely pick a player and make no changes to his game…
like it was said above, the biggest problem is that your competing with zywica (lonestarball/DMN) scott lucas/newberg (newberg report), MJH (inside corner), jason parks (BBTIA) and jason cole (lonestardugout/scout.com) — and im sorry, but so far your site doesnt measure up to any of them. in any possible way.
and im sorry, but ranking feliz #5 in the rangers system is flat out dumb. that is not how you get respect from ANYONE, when you kneejerk like that. as a 20 year old. at AAA.
the guy was a consensus top 10 prospect this offseason. he still doesnt have any less talent now than he did last year.
the bar is already set VERY high for rangers blogs, especially when it comes to writing about prospects, and your blog has had a gawd aweful start.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Beavan will come around
Trust me. I won’t say I told you so but I will be silently smirking to myself when he makes it to the major leagues.. Beavan might be the best pitcher in our farm system. I just have a feeling.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
best pitcher in our farm system?
5.4 k/9
does he have the best FB in our system? no- feliz
does he have the best CB in our system? no – ramirez? m perez?
does he have the best change up in the system? no – poveda
does he have the best slider in our system? probalby not
does he have the most accuracy? no – boscan
does he have the highest ceiling of rangers pitchers in the minors? no – far far behind both feliz and font
is he that much better than a healthy michael main? no (health being the key)
so why do you think he might be the best pitcher in the farm system? write a post about it, back it up with stats, other scouting reports, etc…dont “have a feeling” — back it up
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The most accuracy?
Jeez, and you are giving me a hard time? Man.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
my bad
does he hit his spots? is he known for having the best control? — no and no
btw, i like how you throw everything else i said out the window…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Beavan hits his spots. He has excellent control.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
better than boscan?
no.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't agree with your top 10
but it was much, much better than that other one…I really think the other two writers are terrible
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Apr 28, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You might want to re-think that
http://crops.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/04/another-intro.html
Bay Boy can write.
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 28, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as you are open to criticism, I'll give you some real notes
- if you rated the #10 prospect in all of baseball, you probably deserve some patience before people jump off your bandwagon. calling someone 4A after they’ve only had 2 AAA starts is premature (and this is a really obvious point)
- spell the players’ names right. I mean, spell everything right, but at least get their names right. Manny Pina. Julio Borbon.
- Smoak is not going to the OF. In general, you can’t just send some person to a position that they’ve never played before. Very little research would tell you that Smoak is only a 1B and that Davis will probably move off 1B before Smoak (or someone will get traded).
I give up. Really, I think I have a problem with every line being factually incorrect or just a really simple position to take. You guys need to read up a lot more than you already do. If you don’t trust Newberg/Lucas (or don’t want to plagiarize them), at least look to other prospect sites that aren’t necessarily Ranger related. As it stands, you are doing more harm than good for anybody that actually takes you guys seriously.
You guys are just more often than not, categorically wrong
(Obviously these criticisms are directed at your friends but they aren’t here.)
heh
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by inactive lsb user on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
awesome
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Apr 30, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
second thing:
I got a NewbergReport newsflash that said Hamilton might go on the DL because he’s in so much pain he can’t do anything. Forget for a minute how much that would suck. Who would replace him in the outfield? (This is the stuff we want to be known for at Crops on the Farm!)
Candidates:
1. Greg Golson
2. Julio Bourbon
Brandon Boggs
Ben Harrison
who will replace him in the OF — going out on a limb i am going with marlon byrd.
One thing: I remember he was on the Phillies 40 man roster but I’m not sure if we added him to our 40 man when we traded for him, so that could be a problem.
the problem with tihis is that if your going to take the time to write out a blog post, at least, for the love of god, do your damn research
next thing:
Ben Harrison — 296-424-519. Sweet stats. If he gets the call, remember where you heard it first
this shit is not anywhere near “analysis”
your not bad. bay isnt bad. but “sully” while he may be your buddy, his “analysis” simply put is not good.
3. Wilfred Boscan — Man, it sucks that he’s hurt. Is he the next Jovanny Cedeno?
the guy is put on the DL as a precaution and now hes jovanny cedeno? whaaaat
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
in a nutshell
find your niche in the rangers blogosphere
i just dont know where that is…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by inactive lsb user on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
What's funny?
Did you like his top 10?
by Finnerty.Fan on Apr 29, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Mr. Irwin
somboy told me on Crops on the Farm messages that if you want to be taken serious that you shouldn’t ever use “lol” when you write stuff so I thought I wanted to just pass that to you in case you didn’t know that already. hope you aren’t offended by me giving you advise
wrong
That was me. and I said you should never use “LOL” in your analysis of players.
But Chase’s use is perfectly acceptable, as he is using it in reference to the comedy of your post.
a “Lolz” or a “LOLcat” picture would even be appropriate here.
re: rons top 10
comments/thoughts:
1) joe weiland:-you downgrade guys like feliz who are pitching at AAA at age 20, but your #1 player has yet to make a start professionally this year and has a very small change of making it to AAA at age 20/1. you trust nolan, because he has had success before at player development — right?
-WWNRD!
2) manny pina :
i love how you throw out his 800 PAs at a .248 BA in exchange for 47 AB and a .468 AB…track records arent worth jack anymore!
-and yes he is good defensively, but pina’s hitting stats are .248 BA/.306 OBP/.322 SLG vs teagarden’s .267 BA/.390 obp/.509 slg…and teagarden is recognized as a GG caliber catcher.
3) justin smoak:
-you compare justin smoak to todd linden.
-oh yea, and he didnt play much last year because his bonus demands.
-oh yea, and comparing a pitcher who has had TJ surgery/injuries and is just now making it to AAA to a player picked #11.
-again: todd linden? …really? i guess any player from one conference is equal to another player from the same conference who played years ago and started at the same level!
4) nefatali feliz:
-im glad you think hes overrated. i am glad that you are going against every (professional) prospect writer out there.
- i think neftali feliz is like jason neighborgall. both walk a lot of players.
-you clearly dont understand that pitching hard=pitching good. otherwise jason neighborgall would have netted the diamondbacks somone like barry bonds back in 2005.
5) kasey kiker:
-i would imagine this is what was going through ron’s head when he wrote this:
“dude! he has a 2.86 era in 22 innings pitched! clearly we should trade him for felix hernandez tomorrow, because that is fair value! hes left handed, that must mean he is going to be as good as sandy koufax! thats it! hes the second coming of sandy koufax! hes left handed! the clinton rangers farm system is awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. yea boiiiiiiiii”
-also, i have never seen somoene compare a player in one place to derek holland, kenny rogers and matt harrison. yes, they share very few things in common: left handed (check). played for the texas rangers (check). pitchers (check). a few differences: only one has thrown a camera down. only one has thrown a perfect game. two of them have played for multiple MLB teams.
-also i think this is how the harrison part went in his head: “harrison had nine wins last year! woohoo kiker is left handed. he would also have 9 wins in the SHOW last year! kenny rogers could probably have 20 wins if he hadnt retired! also, get off me matt cain. you and your 32-43 record suck. you should quit baseball and never EVER pitch again in the SHOW because you cant get any wins.”
6) wilmer font:
-in ron’s head: “he throws 100 miles per hour! like feliz! he must be good! he was signed at 15! they must have thought he had some talent to sign him at 15! low era! low era! low era!”
-wilmer font:
born: 5/24/1990
signed: july/august 2006
= not signed at 15
thats just basic math. at least get that shit right
-man those 10 IP are clearly going to dictate the rest of his career…rewind back to early 2006, in a little known bit of information the cardinals almost traded albert pujols for a young up and coming slugger known as chris shelton but couldnt bring themselves to rip the tigers off so much…the rest is history: shelton was elected to the hall of fame at the tender age of 26 and has won the MVP every year since. for both leagues. and he has only played in the AL.
7) doug mathis
-wait, what? doug mathis? you mean the guy who had a 64 era+ and a WHIP of 2.28 last year in the major leagues? at age 25? or do you mena the guy who was dropped from the rangers 40-man roster? that guy?
-clearly the fact that he has a lower era than neftali feliz is the only thing that matters. not that feliz has aprox. 3.14x the talent of mathis.
-you forgot to include how awesome he was last year with the AZL Rangers! he had a k/9 of 13.5! 13.5!!! and a bb/9 of 0! now that is a budding star!
-and hes 6’3" which means that he will have as good of a career as nolan ryan, because they are both right handed and play baseball.
8) greg golson
i will let this speak for itself: "
He’s real fast and can steal a lot of bases if you need him to plus he plays center field sometimes which is Josh’s position for the Rangers."
9) blake bevan:
-BREAKOUT ALERT!!!
-beavan could be good if he brings his k/9 up. its questionable that hes a top 10 guy from my viewpoint but i can see how he would fit in yours.
10) jared hyatt:
- so lets see: he went to georgia tech (check). hes a pitcher (check). hes tall (check) he plays for the rangers (check). — clearly this means he will be the modern day equilivant of babe ruth. he will be as good of a pitcher as kevin brown was and he will be as good of a hitter as mark teixeira. SOLD!
-and hes dont a better job than feliz! and his bb/k ratio is 8 to 5! clearly we should ignore this small sample size because of the amount of talent he obviously has. the ONLY reason he wasnt ranked #1 in baseball is because no one wanted to make the rest of the prospects in baseball look bad when jared hyatt was ranked #1-100. hes just. that. good.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
hey!
thats cool how you had something to say about all of my stuff because thats whats great about writing about baseball stuff and especially Texas Rangers minor leagues on the internet so that you can have discussions like this which make everybody think about it better. I don’t think its such a good idea to say that Nolan Ryan doesn’t know a good pitcher when he sees one though because he knows a lot about pitching. He’s in the hall of fame and I read that he helped Randy Johnson get better when he was younger than he is now
was something I wrote about Greg GOlson not true? I read something on Google that he was a realk fast center fielder and I KNOW that Josh is a center fielder to
douchebag
do you get that you are a plagiarizer? are you going to acknowledge that?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
it was an accident
I explaned it on another blog here about the minor leagues today. I tried to apologise to Mr. Lucas about it with an email I sent him about it.
ah I missed that
glad you acknowledged it on this blog and not your own. and glad you really owned up to it with “it was a mistake.”
What sentence did you “forget” to include. A nice little disclaimer: “Everything you have just read that does not have a typo or actually has real analysis was written by someone else.” It’s a hard line to remember.
I don’t know if you realize but EVERY plagiarizer’s excuse is the same, except in this case it makes absolutely no sense. How about you just cop to it, ON YOUR OWN BLOG, with more sincerity and remorse than you are actually showing
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
and
the more I read, the more it’s becoming obvious that you might be 18 or 19 (or possibly a lot younger) so I’m going to give this a rest.
you could learn a lot from this guy: http://texasrangerstrades.blogspot.com/
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
a few things
-golson doesnt play CF for AAA, nor is he second on the rangers CF depth chart (byrd), nor is he third (borbon) nor would he be the immediate first callup OF wise (that would probably be boggs if another OF went down)
he played CF in the past but not now
like ab03 said below, you may be a younger kid so im gonna let it go — but if your gonna write a “top 10” – i would suggest doing more reasearch into some players — shoot me an email and i can give you a list of sites to start reading/articles to read/etc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 29, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for clarifying
He’s in the hall of fame and I read that he helped Randy Johnson get better when he was younger than he is now
I could see where there might be some confusion on the issue…
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Apr 30, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
they are just kids
so its no fun anymore lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Juan Pierre
4. Julio Borbon – I’m with Sully. Yeah, he doesn’t walk much, blah blah blah. Don’t bore me. He can hit .300, run and play center. What do you want? He could be the next Juan Pierre (a great player who’d be fine if the Dodgers hadn’t wrecked his confidence. The Dodgers are my other fave, so I know what I’m talking about).
Indeed, you know what you’re talking about.
I took that paragraph as a subtle reference to FJM
At least I hope so.
I can’t imagine that anyone would otherwise call Juan Pierre a great player AND reference “confidence” in the same sentence.
If “consistent” had been dropped in there too, it would have been a dead give-away.
I fucking miss FJM
so bad. Like, punching orphan bad. I kinda wish a character on Parks & Recreation will go on a ten minute monologue making fun of another character’s comments about baseball.
In fact, I really wish that.
Every once in a while
I’ll go to the website in hopes that they randomly posted an update.
Nobody could dissect a JoeChat or a crappy column with such venom, wit, and hilarity.
A little piece of the internet died when Schur closed down the blog.
haha, possible.
I can definitely imagine Bill Platschke saying “don’t bore me” to some glasses-faced loser criticizing Juan Pierre.

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