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Well, that was unexpected.

I had a power outage here at my house, somewhere around the fourth inning.  Power only come back on in the bottom of the 9th, and when my TV finally powered up and did all that TiVo re-charging crap, Frankie was down 3-0 to some guy I'd never heard of before.  And then he pumped three fastballs for strikes, ended the game, and the Rangers take 3 of 4 from Baltimore.

I had already started mentally composing a post for tomorrow about Matt Harrison, and how long you stay with him, and the problems with committing to a guy and then yanking him less than a month in versus the problems with sticking with a guy who is so clearly in over his head.

And then he ended up settling down and shutting the Orioles out over the final 5 innings.  If we can get 7 innings a night with 4 runs allowed from the starters, I'll take that.

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Fire Washington!!!!

Fire Wash for overusing Frankie!

Why did he take CJ out so early?? Why did he take Andruw out and put Nellie in right when Nellie obviously wasn’t warmed up yet???

DFA Frankie, call up Smoak and have him close!!

Oh, wait… the Rangers won? Oh. Sorry, nevermind.

by Oddibee on Apr 27, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Proposal to AJM

Stop watching Rangers games please.

by LiamP on Apr 27, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

seriously

This is the second time in what, a week?

There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns

by RachelB on Apr 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey cowpoke

Lighten up, it’s a joke.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 28, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

No you are getting old

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

we need somone

who causes ‘misterious’ power outages in AJM’s neighborhood everytime the Rangers are down

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: I'm really jealous of you local DFW folks.

Diners, Drive-ins and Dives is talking abuot some place called Twisted Root Burger Co., and it looks like the best restaurant I’ve ever seen ever in my life.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

You are right I have never thought about it until you said that.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's on less junk

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Apr 28, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dangit was that on tonight?

I saw the poster on the wall last time I was there and wanted to try and see the episode.

I eat there for lunch about every other week.

by jthig32 on Apr 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Twisted Root

Burgers are very good, fries are generic frozen curly fries, sweet potato chips are fairly good.

The ancho chipotle ketchup is the fucking bomb though.

by LiamP on Apr 27, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just ate there on Friday

Had the guac, chipotle, and cheddar burger for the first time. I usually get the one with the onion ring on it.

by albyman32 on Apr 27, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Twisted Root Burger Co....

It’s OK.. not that great. I’ve had their Angus burger. It was juicy, and messy, which was fine… pretty good burger but i thought it was rather small.

Their milkshakes are good. They have milkshakes you can get spiked with Baileys Irish Cream.

Over all I’d give the food 3 stars cause the angus burger was small. It should have been bigger. The service was not that good cause i was drinking beer and she never really asked me if i’d like another one. The atmosphere was nice… 4 stars. Overall it’s ok, 3 stars out of 5. The burger should have been bigger it was to thin and skinny. I didn’t like that

by cowpoke on Apr 27, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

angus burgers are a gimic

its just bs, buy an all natural or an organic burger or dont worry about it, my pop sell organic beef and all natural beef and my experience is “angus” is a code word for “this cost an extra buck for no reason”

just a heads up

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Apr 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've Never seen

a Rangers pitcher turn around like that…. Credit Maddux for getting Harrison pissed off and credit Harrison for pitching with his ass on fire the last few innings… Thats what you wanna see from a young pitcher. He has the stuff, just has to get his mindset right

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok

Once again I was wrong about this lineup tonight. I will a eat humble fish taco. Learn from this Josey it is ok to admit when you are wrong.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 27, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's the thing

I really don’t think there’s a ton of difference between your two catcher options and your two shortstop options. And Hamilton is still hurt.

Which is why I don’t think the lineup was that big an issue.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just had a rough day

Then saw that lineup and thought ugh.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

the life of a sellout to your state is a tough life

at least he’s not corby, that guy is an OU fan who was too good to goto OU but but doesnt miss a game, now thats a sellout

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Apr 28, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck you

I hardly every have a rough day. Go get another drink and pass out.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 28, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

before poking fun at a person's choice for higher education

you may want to check your own grammar and spelling.

by bioaggie on Apr 28, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I disagree on the catcher spot

I think there’s a huge difference between both of the catchers.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

they are dramatically different

when it comes to their expected level of offensive output. Calling them “similar” is preposterous. For reference he could check every scouting report ever put together regarding the two. Of course Adam was a 1M5T fan and is probably a little bitter.

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 28, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

one of the few thing ive gained from the beginning of the season is

to realize that either the rangers were retarded for not moving one of those guys to the sawks or that those offers were never remotely close to being realistic, im goin with (b)

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Apr 28, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

TT had a great game since he went 1-4 and only struck out twice….

by Horns130 on Apr 28, 2009 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. FX2 puts the tying runs on base

the pitches 3 straight balls to the winning run at the plate. This would have led to 50 straight posts about how BlueGloveLefty sux but instead Frankie gets a pass?

by eclou on Apr 27, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

Frankie has been kicking ass for roughly the past 2 years. So he gets a little more leeway.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

3.60 ERA in September '07

3.13 ERA last season
0.00 ERA so far this year

Call it one year and two months.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 27, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

when he's not throw chairs or blowing out his elbow he's awesome

ive seen few comments to the contrary over the years

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Apr 28, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, its alot easier to give Frankie

some leeway… Seriously, the guy has just dominated the first part of the season, he’s been the opposite of suck… I dont think we are that easy to overreact

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even today

it was a 0-2 HBP that the guy kinda swung at, and a bad pitch to Zaun. Whoopidy!

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Apr 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea,

if he had walked the 9 batter, i might have started getting pissed at Frankie… As is, that was a better performance than what we’ve had the last few years as a closer, not even taking into account how well he’s done this year.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the last few years??

So the 22-26 last year for CJ was terrible? I admit, it wasnt good in many other situaitons but come one, ill take 22 of 26 any year from my closer. CJ pitched GREAT tonight. Give the kid credit. And no, he didnt get hit hard just right at someone either. He came in, did the job and did it well.
Franky is a beast. But you have to give CJ his dues.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Apr 27, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But we were never as confident with CJ last year as we were with Frankie this year.
CJ did pitch well tonight but it’s going to be hard for him to ever instill a lot of confidence in us.
Frankie’s performance as the closer has spoiled us into thinking every save is easy.

by GoDMurphy on Apr 27, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

CJ always gave up a run or two in those spots, I like CJ and hope he does well in the role he has now and I think he will, but when a closer goes out there and doesnt give up a run its usually gonna be better than what CJ did last year

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck CJ

i took his sorry ass off my twiiter…

ah hahaha.. take that CJ

by cowpoke on Apr 27, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

22/26

there aren’t many stats as overrated as the “save”. I remember many times last year when CJ would give up a couple of runs with a three-run lead to barely “save” the win.

"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland

by chrisR on Apr 28, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea,

if he had walked the 9 batter, i might have started getting pissed at Frankie… As is, that was a better performance than what we’ve had the last few years as a closer, not even taking into account how well he’s done this year.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey

at least he’s not giving up hits to Cesar Izturis.

"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland

by chrisR on Apr 28, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha
I dont think we are that easy to overreact

Umm…I strongly disagree…in fact this is the most ridiculous statement of all of LSB’s history

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Frankie got out of it.

And we all felt pretty confident that he would. Come on.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't been through the GDT so forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse

But, how much of Harrison’s turn around are we giving TT credit for? Any? All?

by Slaw on Apr 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Im giving

Maddux some credit for lighting his ass on fire

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

None to my knowledge

He was just pumping stuff in at a very high rate of speed. Things just basically started getting going.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 27, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering Ranger pitchers had a .938 OPS against in the games Teagarden has started coming into tonight, I'm going to say not much.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Salts is going to be a very good starter, and TT is pretty much the perfect backup. Good defensive ability, a bit brittle, but won’t kill you if you need to press him into service.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Apr 27, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously?

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 27, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Versus 849 when Salty's back there, yeah.

Small sample size and all, but regardless, I don’t buy into this line of thinking that having Teagarden back there is some kind of magic dust for the pitchers.

Actually, I don’t think it makes much difference period who’s back there. A pitcher is still as good or bad as his ability.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially with these young pitchers

they aren’t calling the games. they are looking for the signs from the dugout. the only real impact they have is in their defense and ability to frame pitches. i don’t think either one does those things particularly well. only advantage tea has is his defense

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

CERA has already been proven to be

smoke and mirrors.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Apr 27, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

I think the Rangers catchers call the games.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 27, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

honestly I’m not positive. but I have definitely seen the catchers look to the dugout for signs. I just don’t know how often it happens.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The catchers look

over to the dugout when there are runners on base for pitchouts, throws to first, etc.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 27, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

i admit i never thought of that. but still, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard that the rangers catchers don’t call their games

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think ML catchers get signs from the dugout

And ever since he was drafted TT has gotten raves , from both scouts and pitchers, about his cerebral nature behind the plate and how he is a benefit to the pitchers.

Maybe all those guys are full of shit, but I think TT is good for a pitcher like Harrison.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

that blanket statement is definitely not true, and hasn’t been true in texas for some time.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, during the game I knew I was gonna have to come on here and hear Tricer try to argue it was Teagarden's influence that did it.

I think you’re severely overrating the difference “game calling” makes, but what do I know.

It certainly isn’t the first or last time we’ll disagree ;)

The 40 Trumps All!!!

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at Harrison's face, watch his body language, listen to him talk

I seriously think he’s more than just a little bit dumb.

Teagarden calls a good game, that’s not something I came up with – every scout, manager, or coach that has ever seen him says that. For some pitchers it probably doesn’t make much difference, but for pitchers with some talent, but without much experience or brains, it probably makes quite a bit of difference. So that’s why I think TT is a good battery mate for Harrison.

I wanted to keep my opinion of Harrison’s intelligence to myself, but you made me explain myself and now my dirty little secret is out there for the LSB world to get offended by. Thanks.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 27, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it takes

TT being Harrison’s personal catcher for Matt to be competitive, then I am all for it.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 27, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably nothing

For all I know the guy is a Rhodes scholar and writes poetry in Latin at night to relax after a day of solving differential equations..

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 27, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you think

tonight was all about Teargarden, or even 5% about Teargarden, then why the hell was he so bad early on? I get a feeling that between one of those innings Maddux got in his ear. You could see that Maddux told him to up his pace and obviously said some things that lit his butt on fire…

And what does Harrison’s big eyes have to do with him being not smart?

This whole idea that Teargarden was the reason Matt Harrison is pretty stupid IMO… I might be overstating it, but it had nothing to do with it.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

interesting point

But… we should have never got rid of Laird. We should have payed Laird that.. what 3 mil? Salty is never going to be good and I’ve said this since we got his sorry ass. Another fuck up by JD by getting rid of Gerald Laird.

by cowpoke on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both of your comments

still recovering from all those drugs i suppose?

or are you just that stupid?

by Horns130 on Apr 28, 2009 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's LSB's town drunkard.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

btw

I’d rather have TT behind the plate everyday NOW than wishy wash and his Salty love playing.

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

that is about the most “douchebag” comment i think ive ever read on here

and it is flat out ignorant to boot

by Horns130 on Apr 28, 2009 3:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

a person’s facial expression = intelligence. That’s a H.S.O

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Is that guy a rocket scientist...?" wonders Diggler.

It’s certainly not an exact science, but you’re telling me you never see a dude on the street and just by looking at him think he’s probably not the brightest bulb on the tree?

That said I never really thought Harrison looked all that dumb.

He’s got the crazy eyes and he seems pretty like he might be pretty wimpy from the way he lets things effect him sometimes, but I never really thought he looked like he was dumb.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I really haven't ever thought that

Especially not about Harrison.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh shut up.

Everyone makes snap judgments about people based on their preconceived notions, whether they like it or not.

It’s called being human.

You don’t have to act on them or even truly believe them, but you’re telling me you don’t ever make snap judgments based on things like look/dress/demeanor?

You’re either completely unique or your some kind of alien creature sent here to harvest our tasty internal organs.

Please don’t harvest my organs, bro.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I might think someone looks funny or might have crazy eyes

I never said I don’t make snap judgments — I said I don’t consider their intelligence.

I have no use for your organs — we have determined organs lined with Lemon-lust cause hysteria in those we implant them in.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Nice.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

CJ recently tweeted

That Harrison absolutely destroyed Holland at chess. Take it for what it’s worth.

by rcreative on Apr 28, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like Holland's one dumb S.O.B.

to lose a game of chess to that idiot Harrison.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 28, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's dumb,

and then there’s country dumb. i don’t understimate anyone.

by SteveP on Apr 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

None-ya's.

Baby Matt just got pissed….instead of crying.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Apr 27, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need more of that

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 27, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree. He has all the talent in the world.

It just takes a bit for these guys to be close to what they will eventually be…just like everyone else.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Apr 27, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

On Harrison, there was some positives.

The big one is that I think is there’s a reason to stick with him even after a bad inning.

At the same time, though, all things considered, that wasn’t a good game. He just managed to make the bad early and concentrated, so we remember the good better.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

yep

for a young pitcher who has struggled, this game was about as good as i could have hoped for. At the end of the day, I wouldnt have been very happy with 7 IP 4 runs allowed. Then to see how it happened, makes me feel even better, he actually looked capable of shutting down a good lineup for innings at a time

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

a good game

for a struggling young pitcher? Hell yea in my book

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHIP

Prior to this game, Harrison had a WHIP of 2.5. This is certainly a step in the right direction.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Apr 27, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some HUGE positives.

I’ve been one of the hardest on him on this board, but he turned itno a completely different animal after those first two innings.

He stopped it with all the nibbling and started pumping strikes in there and looked good. This wasn’t one of those mirage things, he was really, really good after the second.

And, I wasn’t around for the gameday thread so maybe this was discussed there, but did anyone else notice how much quicker he started working beginning in the third? He got the ball and as soon as the batter was set he was throwing. I’m wondering if this wasn’t something Maddux spoke to him about, cause it seems like as soon as he started working faster he suddenly found his groove. Perhaps it helped him from overthinking out there and let feel more comfortable attacking guys? Whatever it was, I sure as hell hope it’s something he figured out rather than something that just kind of happened.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeppers. Nadel alluded to that during the broadcast.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
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by Rodney on Apr 27, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really

think this is the first time i really could see a visible effect that Maddux had on a pitcher. Maddux got on his ass and Harrison responded

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Velocity

I couldn’t see the game tonight. What was his velocity?

by 3Bagger on Apr 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

94-96, acording to the broadcast.

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by Rodney on Apr 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

With Holland also, we will have 2 Lefties throwing heat.

The future looks brighter tonight.

by 3Bagger on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

not to get crazy over one start, but...

someone busted out a stat last time Dutch was on the hill that essentially said starting lefties throwing 92+ are rare and damn hard to it. If Harrison can bring it mid-90’s w/ control, he’ll be very valuable.

by Sherman McCoy on Apr 27, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

Id also say that some of the listed fastballs at 90MPH were actually cutter/Sliders that gameday tracker might call fastballs

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh hell another the future looks bright crap

when is the fucking future going to look bright???

Well, guess what. Not this year and probably not 2010 either.

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

dang

if he could do that consistently then I’d start to have more hope

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by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

yea...

the kid can throw hard

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was doing it last season too

Not very consistently, but he was hitting the mid 90s.

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

One game he'd be in the 90's

Then the next game he would be 88-89. Ave fastball was 90.2 last year according to fangraphs. 90.3 so far this year, curious to see how much that jumps.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I misread your post and thought you said that he wasn’t throwing like that last season. I see now that I’m pretty much restating what you just said.

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

sometimes you look at those fan graphs and you see a guy start his career at lower velocity average and then over time is able to throw an Average fastball thats faster later on in his career. I get the feeling that a guy like Harrison could fit into that category as it comes down to consistency in his delivery and building up his strength… Still, 90.3 is nothing to scoff at for LHP, I think Hamels velo is right there, of course his changeup is a ++ pitch.

I like Harrison’s upside, i really do.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

The FSNSW gun seemed to be a little fast to me.

It’d show 96 on the gun and then Grieve would say 94 so I think maybe he was looking at a different gun.

And it didn’t look 96 to me so I’m gonna go with the readings on the screen we were seeing being a tad fast.

He had good velocity tonight, but, 96?

Color me a skeptical.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think someone mentioned the BAL guns

were 2-3 mph higher than gameday.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

but not today

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can tell the difference between

96 and 94 from behind the pitcher on a TV screen? Impressive

by akuykenda on Apr 27, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can make a real dumb douchebaggy comment?

Impressive.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like you

you’re an asshole, but you’re my kind of asshole

by akuykenda on Apr 27, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

what was your previous username?

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like you.

You’re a quibbler.

People who come in and make snarky little comments dissecting small parts of what you just said without adding anything are the worst.

If you look I never said I can accurately tell the difference between 96 and 94. All I said was that it didn’t look 96 to me (and there multiple 96 readings, iirc) and so when Grieve finally spoke up and said 94 on one of the pitches where the FSNSW gun read 96 I kind of went, Okay, maybe I was right and the gun is at least somewhat fast.

But, oh, U CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 94 and 96!? Super LOLZ!!! SUPERS LOLZERS MCGEEEEEE ON A BRIDGE IN THE RAIN HOLDING A CAT IN HIS HANZDERSSSS!!!! LOLOLOL!!!

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

The 40 Trumps All!!!

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol...

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol = laugh out loud

where is Nadia when you need her??

by matteo25 on Apr 27, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

the first time i saw that on an AIM

i thought it meant ‘lots of love’

i have no idea why…

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I first started doing message board posts when I was 15 on NFL.com.

Fantasy Football boards.

Anyway, I thought it was “lots of love,” too. And since I was talking to a bunch of middle-aged men, it was creepy.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

What did you think

about roflmao then?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 27, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

but the point remains

you can’t tell the difference between 94 and 96

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can tell when something doesn't look 96.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

1 – you can’t.

2 – you couldn’t because two separate guns confirmed it.

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay.

1- Whatever. Nice logic.

2- Then what was Tom Grieve reading off of when he said ‘94’?

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

not the same pitch?

i dunno. but I watched the broadcast (both MASN and FSSW) and I followed on gameday. at times, all three confirmed 96 on some of the pitches.

maybe he used some deception to fool you into thinking his 94’s were 96’s

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm beginning to think

these radar guns are like the home run-distance trackers. Wasn’t Frankie’s last pitch 95? Nothing Harrison threw up there seemed as fast.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

gah

see, this is exactly what I’m talking about. you are apparently suffering from the same thing dirkatron is. You are conceding that harrison pitched at least 94, right? and you are saying that you can tell the difference between 2 mph?

does that intuitively seem right to you? two different throwing motions. two different planes. two different pitch locations (probably).

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just going by the eyeball test.

Nope, I can’t tell a 2 MPH difference. That being said, it doesn’t look 94 to me either. All I really care is that it’s effective.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

gah

I never conceded that he was throwing 94. I just thought the 96’s were fast and so when I got another reading on a pitch that flashed 96 on the screen it kind of reinforced the belief in my head that the reading we were seeing on screen might be a little fast. I have no idea how hard he was throwing. I would’ve guessed he sat at 91-93 tonight.

Maybe he was throwing 96.

All I’m saying is that I’m skeptical cause it didn’t seem like he was throwing that hard to my ultra-sexy naked eye.

And it didn’t look 96 to me so I’m gonna go with the readings on the screen we were seeing being a tad fast.

He had good velocity tonight, but, 96?

Color me a skeptical.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think y'all are all wrong.

I could tell since I’m so awesome that he was throwing exactly 95.2 miles per hour. No need to thank me for clearing that up.

by macromorgan on Apr 27, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

a pitch will lose several mph

on its way to homeplate. different guns will pick up the ball at different distances along that path. both guns could technically be correct.

by SteveP on Apr 28, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

the difference between 94 and 96 mph is 1/100 of a second

if you took away gameday, the mph reader and put in pitchers noone had seen… you’d get a lot of wrong mph guesses, especially on tv.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 27, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't believe the 96's but still

But still, I’d be ecstatic if he could consistently hit 94.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

7IP 4 runs a night

I wouldn’t be happy with that

by Mike E on Apr 27, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Especially with Frankie on the team, I can live with that.

Especially if it’s from the Young pitchers. With this offense, we’ll win those games more often than not.

But that’s saying that we can win without good pitching.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may accept it from the 5th

but AJM said from the starters..which I took as all of them.

by Mike E on Apr 27, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

That also includes 7 IP 4 runs a night at the RBIA

Which would be a nice change of pace and put us into the playoffs.

by hiafex on Apr 27, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's look at this from an objective perspective.

A legitimate 5th starter in even distribution would rank between 121-150 among starting pitchers. Among qualified pitchers in 2008, 121st is a tRA* of about 5.60.

So that’s 4.35 runs in 7 innings (or worse) expected from someone who has an excuse to be a 5th starter.

Seems about right. So, yeah, that should be expected from our 5th starter.

And, with the offense we put up last season and average defense (cross fingers?), that means as long as our bullpen isn’t giving up a run an inning, we’re a winning team. In fact, depending on how good that 8th inning guy is, that team could be winning in the 90s.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are the Rangers?

right?

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

why wouldnt you?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I presume you're talking about House?

Cannons... fire them.

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by Craig T on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

in this particular case yes

but also in general… seems fairly common.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 27, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

anybody got showtime

The Tudors are in season 3 right now. I’ve been following the Tudors since the first season. I recommend it to everyone. It’s really good

S1 and S2 is a actually going pretty cheap on ebay

Loves me some Tudors.

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Tudors are one of the few things I can watch together with my wife. BTW, Sir Francis Bryan is a bad ass.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Apr 28, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha...

which one is this? Heroes? That show has killed me ever since the first season… Was an awesome, awesome show in season one, but since then its been hard to watch

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

stopped watching after season 2.

although i had heard it had gotten a little better lately.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was doing alright

in season 3, but a couple of episodes have just been horrendous TV. Season 2 was just about as big of a letdown as i’ve ever had with a TV show

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to blame that on the Writer's strike

This season has been much better. Still not Season 1 good, but I have liked this season a lot. LIke you said though, there have been some really, really crappy ones and I’m sick of seeing Hayden Panetierre act touch.

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think dream sequences/hallucinations are the single weakest plot device in the medium.

That multi-episode coma dream sequence from the Sopranos was such a baseball bat to the old veiny snake.

Dream sequences/hallucinations suck.

The ones on Battlestar Gallactica made me want to burn down a sleepy, unsuspecting Mexican village in retaliation.

Get on with the god damned story already.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

your fault for watching geeksquad in space

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You just want more robots

/Cahill

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by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maddux

So, I’ve been away from a computer from most of the day, and have not read much of anything on this site as of today (just this thread and the GDT2/3). What exactly did Maddux do to Harrison?

by Excel Hearts Choi on Apr 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I dunno. But Harrison noticably sped up and started working much faster starting when he came out for the third, and the results kind of speak for themselves.

What Maddux had to do with that is pure speculation on my part, though someone else may have confirmation in that, I don’t know.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, he just got the ball and went after it

hopefully someone told him to quit pussyfootin’ and just go right at em.

The diff between 2 and 3 was ridiculous.

From now on I hope he’s midway into his windup as the catcher gets him the ball…….if that’s what it’s going to take.

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by Cecilio's Guante on Apr 27, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

matt harrison

You gotta love seeing a guy battle like that and bounce back from not only a few tough innings but a few really tough games. I’m hoping this is the start that gets him going in the right direction.

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by trza on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

kerry wood

ouch

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Kudos to me

My pregrame prediction for Harrison: Harrison goes 7 tonight, gives up 1 run, walks 3, stikes out 4, 5 hits allowed, and a win.

Actual line: 7.0, 7 hits, 4r runs 1 walk, 3 SO, and a win

Yes, I am pretty hot.

This is our year.

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by FormerLSBUser on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

you got the 7IP right

and nothing else. are you really close on the lottery, too?

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well to be fair, the W counts too.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough

the win counts – which by itself would have been enough to brag about.

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the win

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually, he'd be really close on the lottery

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he should be

we need him to beat the A’s

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone hear the post-game interview with Murph?

He will be a manager..trust me. He may not have the most talent int the world, but I think he really has the mindset to achieve.

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by Rodney on Apr 27, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I could see that

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by The Best Micah on Apr 27, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is by far one of the most articulate baseball players I've ever seen when he's interviewed

My bet is a broadcaster, actually.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

he has a lisp,

not that that is an automatic disqualifier

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 27, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

and he has the good face!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

gameday is really confused

i was trying to breakdown what he was really doing.. it shows a bunch of 81 mph pitches as fastballs. ill assume they are all changeups.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 27, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

but that’s the only thing they messed up. I was following along while watching the game

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

are you sure,

i could have sworn i saw a couple of Harrison’s 88-89 MPH cutters get called fastballs… Maybe i wasnt paying attention

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Lou Montanez

walks around like he’s the next Willie Mays. Cocky looking SOB.

Anyway, Yay Rangers.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

after the 2nd inning

Harrison must have over heard Wash and the Rangers traveling secretary talk about bus rides to Bakersfield.

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by RangerMad on Apr 27, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Did Mikey M really chew out Harrison?

I took a long shower after he got behind and missed a couple of innings.

II Cor. 4:17-18

by TedFord on Apr 27, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I really

think this is what happened, There was a fire under harrison’s butt… I’ll give Maddux alot of credit until someone says otherwise

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

More of this...

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Pocket Ninja on Apr 27, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

nobody there to high five :(

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

poor wash. no friends.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

and this...

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Pocket Ninja on Apr 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is mesmerizing

for some reason.

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by Jason Brynsvold on Apr 27, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's because it is so close to continuous

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

how are you making these?

i’ve wanted to know how to do screen caps / gifs

by cmkelly29 on Apr 27, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

butt bump

yeah that turned you on, huh

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember this

from a couple of days ago… I was thinking “C’mon guys! Don’t leave him hanging like that”

by bhudson on Apr 27, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

Jackie Moore’s saying, “Hell no, I’m 72 fool.”

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ron turned, expecting to see Jackie,

who happened to have been called into the tunnel for a secret meeting with JD and Nolan regarding taking Ron’s job….

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 28, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

who's sitting down there

the .gif cuts off before the camera pans there. Or is that all there is to the video?

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's as far as they went in the broadcast.

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Pocket Ninja on Apr 27, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh......

I too left the game in the 4th inning, only to see the score just now. Wild.

Go Rangers!

by JBImaknee on Apr 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT reply actions  

O'Day

might be a nice little pickup for 7th inning and middle relief, especially considering he was free.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on Apr 27, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Wash seems to realize that he's a ROOGY

and O’Day seems like he might be competent in that limited role, and there is value in that.

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 27, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ROOGY's are just as valuable as LOOGY's to me.

There are plenty of guys out there who hit much worse versus righties than lefties, and my guess is they’d have a ton of trouble against guy like O’Day.

But you almost never see ROOGY’s in bullpens.

The idea intrigues me.

Naturally you’d hope he’d end up being a guy you can count on for more than that, but right now I’d take it.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 27, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially a Roogy

who tends to get grounballs… makes him even more valueable. You can specialize that even more to use him when you have one out in an Inning and need the grounball

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by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he can go a whole inning

but for now it hasn’t been bad. I’d rather watch this than several other guys.

by Hull Fan on Apr 27, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

with holland in there to bridge the gap in 5 inning starts

and O’day hopefully helping… if CJ can just settle down (and i think he can) the bullpen may not be a total disaster.

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by DShep on Apr 27, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

what the eff

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

wwww....Wow

in New Orleans. 25 turnovers will do that.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 27, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

AI for Billups

should go down as one of the worst trades ever.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

But... But..

The cap room!

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

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by sprite on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

saving dollars for who? for what?

with billups there u have a constant. who will want to go there now? They would have had a good chance of getting to the finals this year with KG out. Of course i don’t think anyone is beating a LBJ team, but still…

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're either trying to win the title, trying to build on what you have to get to a title, or trying to get as bad as you can be so you have a chance to build towards a title.

They weren’t going to win a title with what they had, they just weren’t.

They were stuck in that dangerous middle ground where they weren’t good enough to realistically have a shot at winning a title and weren’t bad enough to get the high draft picks they needed to rebuild.

If you’re not gonna win a title with your core, may as well break it up and get yourself a new core, and trading a good Chauncey Billups and his long contract for a shitty Allan Iverson and his short contract was a pretty good way to do that, imo.

Dumars is a pretty smart guy, the Darko thing aside.

I think he knows what he’s doing.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW, he did have pretty amazing tools for a big man.

I always wondered how his career would’ve turned out if he’d been nurtured and brought along with care like Dirk rather than mind-fucked by Larry Brown.

But, yah. Darko over Bosh, Carmello and Dwyade.

Ouch.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats craz!!!

Chris Paul had only 4 points in 37 mins. Did they just straight give up and hand the ball over to denver?

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Apr 27, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

CP3

Plus/Minus -38 seems unpossible.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

byron scott

should be fired tonight.

i never really liked him anyway.

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

the only thing better/worse?

would be to see Avery get the gig, aint he from Nawlins?

I had a secret meeting in the basement of my brain.

by red shoe ranger on Apr 28, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Denver is pretty good.

And yes NO is pretty bad as well.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

After seeing this, I’m thinking that a Denver matchup is no bueno for Los Mavericks.

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by sprite on Apr 27, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I take that back.

I still think the Mavs can take them.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

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by sprite on Apr 27, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Put Ryan Hollins on JR Smith even if it's a bad matchup.

Smith will end up throwing a punch and getting ejected.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

well its the second round of the playoffs

not generally too many pushovers

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 27, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you've seen the east lately?

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

what makes u say that?

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point guards have had there way with us all year

J.R. Smith is the type of player that always thrives against the Mavs.

Nene will be punking Damp all series long.

They’re athletic, we hate athletic. We loved playing the Spurs because they’re just as nonathletic as we are.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Billups

has been pretty average vs Kidd this year.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 27, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 27, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

im not to worried about billups

kidd can guard billups. the guy that will kill us is melo

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by studcrackers on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

They can't cover Dirk.

2 losses were without Howard. None of them were blowouts. I disagree. Think the Mavs can pull it out. If both advance. Hah.

"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

by sprite on Apr 27, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let them remember that they aren't this good

Just let them remember next season.

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not so fast

I would have agreed in January, but for some reason after the All-Star break its been a totally different team. 16-1 at home since then. I never would have thought. I don’t think we are championship material or anything, but I just wouldn’t say “were not really that good of a team.”

by texasbuckeye on Apr 27, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

I actually feel good about this team so far

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

This team has been an insane tease this year

why not win another series and give us false hope against the Lakers?

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

My dream

is for the Mavericks to ruin the ‘inevitable’ Kobe-Lebron matchup.

Haven’t had a dream come true in a while.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

shhhhhh

don’t talk about it. You’ll get me thinking about it.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol, yah, I'm sure Stern would loooooove that.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

If that happened, Stern would just shut down the league...

and blame it on the Swine Flu.

Ian Kinsler..... yea, he's good at baseball.

by b.pate on Apr 28, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

bout damn time

that stinking ass Matt Harrison got a win.

And it’s about fucking time David Murphy gets his suck ass flop togather.

I’m to the point that if we don’t win the AL west this year. I swear to GOD almighty above I will not renew my full season tickets. I’m really getting fed up with this team.

by cowpoke on Apr 27, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

hurler

just chill

give em this year + next year then look at it again

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really nice win tonight

and let’s not forget about The Face hitting a two-run, two-out blast in the 5th to make it 4-3 Balt.

Feel free to take time now to apologize to him for ripping his ass in January when he treated little JD like dogshit on his cleats.

Loved, loved, loved what I saw out of Matt Harrison tonight. That arm does not belong in OKC. His shut-down after the Rangers took the lead was a big step forward…definitely for Harrison and maybe for the team.

My favorite part was after that inning Harrison was sitting next to BMac in the dugout and he was saying “Wow, that’s what a shut-down inning looks like.” Yes, Brandon, we need more of those from YOU.

Kudos to Omar for not making an error in the 8th or 9th innings. Your relievers thank you.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh

Pretty quick turnaround on Harrison.

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the Rangers should give him a couple of more starts

and then reevaluate.

The kid may have taken a big step forward tonight and that arm does not belong in OKC.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

couple of more starts

sure.. he’ll get that now.

sure.. he’ll get that now.but he’s not good, josey. He’s not a quality starter and he never will be. I wish he was. And hope your right that he doesn’t belong in Oklahoma. But, I’d be willing to bet he’ll get sent down before the end of May

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

if nolan was the GM you would be praising his moves

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh come on.

This is the most positivity I’ve seen out of that username in months. Roll with it.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan didn't trade John Danks or DFA Galarraga

and have you seen how both of them are doing?

The good news is that most of the Ranger FO dumbassery evaporated after Nolan took charge.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

tell you what there Max

you appreantly can’t see the texas rangers baseball pitchers forest for the trees.

This Rangers FO and JD has fucked up in so many ways by getting rid of quailty starting pitching over the years under JD’s watch that it makes anybody that knows anything about this team have doubts about whether this team can when a AL west. We damn sure would have a better chance in winning a AL west if we wouldn’t have traded away Johnny Danks for brittle ass McCarthy, letting Armando Galarraga go. What a huge mistake that was. JD has made so many fuck ups. We don’t win the AL west JD THE WHOLE FRONT OFFICE AND RON WASHINGTON BETTER BE FIRED

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

cowpoke...

the Josey Wales starter kit.

Get your own schtick, dude, Josey’s got this one locked down.

by bhudson on Apr 28, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have another drink

hurlerhurley

4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.

by DJCahill on Apr 28, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

let me just say again, complaining about those two is foolish

danks was plain and simple NOT GOOD before he learned the cutter. if he had not learned the cutter no one would be talking about him. are cubs fans blasting their FO because ricky nolasco learned the cutter last year and become good? i would hope not

galarraga has been lucky. will continue to be lucky. and will regress this year…book it. what about all the other teams that didnt take a chance on him? did they just think he was this good but didnt need somoene who was going to be a sure fire HOF pitcher?

you are quick to blast JD but remember who brought in harrison (who you loved, loved, loved tonight). what about the fact that JD won the hamilton deal? does trading one starter for 3 current starters (andrus/salty/harrison) + feliz (who will be a member of the 25 man next year)? and replacing teix’s value to the team with smoak/davis? drafting holland?

your quick to bash his bad moves, but what about his good moves? does he get any credit for those?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

not to nitpick

but Cubs fans have blasted their front office about the Juan Pierre trade since it happened, and rightfully so.

and while i agree with what you said about Danks and his cutter, I don’t agree that he would have not been good. Danks had a certain set of intangibles that allowed him to adjust to every promotion he received in our farm system. He was simply a confident battler of a pitcher, and until this year McCarthy has not shown any mental (or possibly physical) toughness in his game.

I also disagree about Galarraga’s “inevitable” regression. I think he is actually a pretty damn good pitcher. He and Mendoza both seemingly had one strong pitch when the decision came down, and we went with Mendoza’s sinking fastball, which made sense at the time. But I don’t think Galarraga is just lucky. He certainly looked good when he shut our asses down in our first loss of the year.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

but who was bitching about losing nolasco when he was putting up an 80 era+?

that fair enough about danks, but would he have been a 140 era+ pitcher without the cutter? i seriously doubt it

small. sample. size.

if hes doing this good at the break, then ill eat crow.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is small

about a 3.61 ERA in 212 innings? that seems fairly legit at this point. it is doubtful that he will be able to maintain his sub-2 ERA, his K/IP and his 1 HR in 24 innings so far this year, but I think it is safe to say at this point that the guy can hold his own in a major league rotation.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i meant this year

thought you meant how well he was doing this year (sorry)

like i said, if he is still doing this good i am more than happy to eat crow at the break…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care if peopel question someone's mental toughness or intelligence

But what about McCarthy showed that he was weak minded or whatever you’d want to call it.

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD will get credit from me when he starts

making moves that help the team at the major league level win consistently.

In that regard he’s been a colossal failure.

Tonight was a great win and let’s focus on the positive.

Love seeing Teagarden play that well also…he has two feet in the grave but they haven’t buried him yet. Having a great game behind the plate while salvaging a good start from Harrison will earn him points from JD.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

when he starts making moves that help the ML team win consistantly

like trading for a starting catcher and the pitcher you “loved, loved, loved” tonight?

and trading for josh hamilton?

drafting chris davis?
drafting derek holland?
drafting teagarden?

aquireing marlon byrd?

like those kind of moves?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

trading for murphy?
signing milton bradley?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

So didn't we finish 79-83 last year

and aren’t we 9-10 this year?

The treadmill of mediocrity sucks.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

and if we win, that will be nolan's doing

we get it

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that a bitch, ab03?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD will get credit from me when he starts

making moves that help the team at the major league level win consistently.

all of those players have helped the team win, correct?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention,

Cruz. Giving up a closer(that’s been replaced by a better one) to get Cruz, Beavan, and Borbon.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

cruz

one of the more underrated trades (for no good reason)

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

you both remember

he cut Cruz, right? Sometimes its better to be lucky than good.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only did he cut Cruz

he was so blown away by his talent last year that he didn’t bring him up until late August.

Pure genius.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was hurt

remember?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cruz got hurt when there was an opening in the OF

Up until that point, there wasn’t any spot open. Anyways, you wanted Boggs to be playing everyday. If Cruz was up before then, Boggs would never have gotten any playing time at all. The thinking man’s player will have been relegated to being a 5th OF.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

still

he was always in our system. if we don’t make that trade, he’s probably not getting picked up by us

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well if there's gonna be blanket statements about trade results

for JD, without doing any research, then Cruz getting cut doesn’t matter.

Just like Danks learning the cutter in CHI which gave him a career changing pitch doesn’t matter.

We gotta talk in extremes on the internets.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not all that accurate

He didn’t just flat out release him and pick him upat another time. And you don’t think JD felt that he had a pretty good chance at getting Cruz off the 40 without losing him?

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by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD needs to put together a team that wins 90+ games

consistently to get credit from me.

In four years he has demonstrated that he has no idea how to build a team that can do that.

So are we going to get back to extolling how great Matt Harrison was tonight?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

how many GMs out there have put up 90+ win seasons consistantly?

remind me who TRADED FOR harrison…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

define "consistently"

So two back-to-back years of 90+ wins is your definition of “consistently”?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if the rays win 89 games then their GM should be

tarred and feathered ASAP

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

the rebuilding process was his idea

if he’s putting together 90+ win seasons while completely rebuilding the system, he’s the greatest gm of all time bar none.

He sold us on a five year plan, and right now it appears to be right on schedule.

by Sherman McCoy on Apr 27, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think JD

gets a lot of credit for draft picks that he was not directly responsible for drafting. when I went on my “go hire Hunsicker” spiel earlier this month, it was with the caveat that Hunsicker would have the smarts to leave this player development team in place and simply be in charge of building the major league roster. I think JD has signed some solid one year deals and low risk journeymen, and obviously did well in his ’07 trades, but those were moves that I consider “seller” moves. when trading/signing players who are supposed to lead directly to more major league wins (or “buyer” moves like signing big ticket FAs and making trades to get the best player in the deal) he has had mostly setbacks. That worries me, because this team is entering a period when they will need to make shrewd evaluations of their own talent when they are in “buyer” mode in the trade market. The horrendous bullpen that he collected to start the year (while knowing how important April was to this season) still really irks me.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

and this is not to say

that JD should be fired tomorrow. i am willing to give him some more rope. i just think he gets a lot of credit for the draft picks and the LA signings when he isn’t actually all that integral in those moves (although he certainly gets credit for putting a great team in place). I worry that JD is the Showalter of GMs. He is a solid developmental guy, but he may not be able to get the team over the top. We shall see.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

a GM totally deserves credit for his team drafting well

he put every single one of those people in place and is integral in making the draft strategies.

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He gets credit

because he put the scouting team together. When you make a smart hire, you should get credit for it. No one was saying that JD shouldn’t get any credit for signing Bradley last year just because he wasn’t the one on the field with a .400 OBP.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially since JD brought a lot of those guys in with him

though a lot were holdovers as well.

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's important too

Make sure to keep the good one’s and replace the bad one’s.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD also gets credit for where the major league team

finishes in the standings.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

so say JD gets fired tomorrow

and the rangers win the AL west and go to the world series next year

does he get credit for that?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

he had been a part of the team for years

since 2004. as the head of player development. and his “players” failed to win more than 70 games 4 years in a row

so yes, i guess JW would have fired him

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

still waiting JW

…come on

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Make that hell no.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

so if he gest fired tomorrow

nolan installs himself as the GM, makes no major moves the rest of the year and they make the playoffs and go to the WS but lose in teh WS does JD get any credit?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell no.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

why

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

One generally follows the other

Great scouting and great player development are the best way to build a franchise.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Second place last year

Currently in second place right now.

Last year the Yankees finished in third place and they did not win 90 games.

You also seem to like the Royals a lot, and yet they haven’t finished at the top of their division nor have they won 90 or more games in… a very, very long time.

What do you think of the ability of Detroit’s GM to build a “consistent winner” at the major-league level? The Tigers have exactly one 90-win season since 2002… their win total since then: 55, 43, 72, 71, 95, 88, 74 (with a team that was supposed to win the division).

by Inkara1 on Apr 27, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have any feelings about the Royals other

than the fact that I think Hillman would have been a better hire than Ron Washington.

I do think the Royals are making some nice incremental steps forward and have said so and I’m not shocked at all by how well they’re playing but I’m not a fan of the team.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No thanks,

I just usually check the standings.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

The standings that say

TX is a .500 club in pythag wins?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 28, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you check the standings right now...

KC is 10-9 and the Rangers are 9-10. That’s even with Grienke’s scoreless streak, plus Meche also at the top of the rotation. That’s one entire win more, even with a one-two punch like that at the top of the rotation.

If you were to read royalsreview.com, you might learn a few things about how Trey uses the “bully,” particularly his lack of usage of the Mexicutioner, widely regarded as one of the very best closers in all of baseball.

You have officially peen pwnt.

by Inkara1 on Apr 28, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

Trey Hillman may be one of the worst managers in baseball while also being not nearly as good at handling his players as Wash is… The dude had one of the worst coaching games i’ve ever seen when his team blew the last game of our series, that was just horrendous

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 28, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Soria has also been hurt more than has been let

on and that may have played a part in Hillman’s use of the pen.

If Jacobs fields Blalocks ground ball, that game has a different ending.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Hunsicker lose Johan?

I’m not saying that makes him bad, just that shit happens. I’d like to see JD get to ‘play out’ this farm system.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Apr 27, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cmon

Didnt you know that youre allowed to ignore the good trades and just focus on the bad ones when you have an agenda

get your head in the game

lesson today…ignorant fools will post ignorant things

by Horns130 on Apr 28, 2009 4:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Danks was very good.

I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Take a closer look at his minor league numbers. The ERA ain’t that pretty from AA and AAA and he needed to do a better job of keeping the ball in the park going forward, but he K’d a ton of dudes with decent control, and was still very young and projectable.

A 21 year old in AA with a k/9 of 10.64 and a bb/9 of 2.86?

Yah, I’ll take that every single day of the year.

He struggled in ‘07 in the bigs, but he was really thrown to the wolves. He could’ve used a little more seasoning in the minors first. I don’t think it’s fair to say he wasn’t good because of that.

I get why you think Hurley was bad (I mean, I disagree, but I get it at least), but I don’t understand how someone could look at John Danks and say he wasn’t good when we traded him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

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by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing with Danks is

that he wasn’t very likely to become more than a great number 3 or solid number 2. I don’t think we gave up our ace of the future in him, but Chicago has helped him step his game up to another level.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 28, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's a great #2 right now in Chicago (as opposed to a true "ace") and had the chance to be the same here.

He had a great profile.

He had to find a way to limit the HR’s and the cutter obviously helped him there, but there were a lot of markers in his statistical profile that seemed to indicate he was going to be pretty damn good, especially with regard to his ability to miss bats.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

but he just didn’t show that great of control and gave up too many HRs to see him as having a great shot of being a number 2 starter. The potential was there, but given what we saw of him in the upper levels, I think there was a much better chance of him becoming a good number 3 and that is likely what Texas would have gotten out of him.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 28, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was good, your right

but he was not a 130+ era+ guy in the major leagues.

just wasnt.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder if michael young is going to apologize for acting like a spoiled brat

when it looks like the best course of action was for him to move to third and let andrus play SS.

seriously, I do think that will happen.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

ab03

You’re wrong…again.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

wanna bet?

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

the year after your death

sorry. I don’t make the rules

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Young is not going to apologize for

Jack Shit, ab03.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

wanna bet

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

you better go ahead and bet with the dude

or he won’t stop

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't make internet bets

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, philkid

I’ve been right a lot when it concerns the Rangers and I’m not really worried about anything.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think so?

Ask around.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

who are we supposed to ask? which one of your friends is going to pipe up here?

Are you that delusional to think that somebody is going to stick up for you?

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure everything I've read from Josey Wales

Has made me wish LSB had an “ignore certain poster’s comments” tool.

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Apr 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

like such wisdom as saying that a player with a .261 OBP through 130 ABs in The Show while being at least 26 just won’t ever amount to anything.

The problem with you is that you are wrong plenty of times. When you are, you just admit you might admit you were wrong once, but then go and jump on that bandwagon while still trashing JD. You’ve just done it again in this thread with Cruz saying now that JD was a moron for having him in AAA for most of last season when you were the one shouting from the rooftops he wouldn’t amount to anything. You still were saying that this offseason. Or better yet, you’ll ignore a good move and give us the “Check the Standings” response.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know why i bet?

it’s the easiest way to shut somebody up. especially people who pound their chest about making predictions and think that they they are good at making predictions when in reality they’re about the same as chance at making predictions.

so, um, when’s your next guarantee?

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

…but he won a gold glove!

i mean, who wouldnt want to see travis metcalf and his bad self out there getting 500 AB at third base!

because that would help the team contend, right? travis metcalf/vazquez/cast of characters at 3b and FOTF at SS…right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Chris Young

3/7/8/8/5/3 line tonight. Obviously not great, but the Young-Hundley battery gave up 8 SBs in those 3 innings, including 5 from Dexter Fowler alone.

by LiamP on Apr 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn.

And people thought Salty couldn’t throw anyone out last year.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Matt Vascwhatever, wow

Trying to make jokes when a guy is being carted off. Very bad taste, Williams and Ripkin laid out on him.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Who was being carted off

and what did he say?

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brad Hawpe got hit in the neck by a ball on an attempted caught stealing

And he asked them to bring the tape back up because he thought he recognized someone, so they did, and he said “is that Donovan McNabb?”, referring to someone who was either medical or grounds keeping personnel, who looked nothing like McNabb.. kinda racist actually.

by octoberty on Apr 27, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn.

Good timing Matt. Dumbass.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 things

1. This team seems to play it’s best baseball when Wash is on the hot seat. I think JD and NR need to leak ambiguous quotes and the papers need to run weekly articles about how his job is on the line, no matter what happens throughout the year.

2. That slide by Teagarden was phenomenal. He is a very smart baseball player who does so many things well…I just hope he hits.

3. Darren O’Day has now been in three games as a Ranger and has not yet pitched an official inning. That makes me laugh, yet it also displays Wash’s newfound willingness to use his bullpen in key situations. Once we get Guardardo out of there, we may actually have a fully functioning group of guys down there.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder if they can convince Eddie to become part of the coaching staff?

I like the guy a whole lot to mentor the young guys in that pen about work ethic and what not. I just don’t want him anywhere near a mound in an official game.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

he probably feels

like he can still pitch, but at some point in the future i think the club would very much like to have Eddie around in some capacity.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 27, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

he spent a good amt of time talking to holland

during both of the games i watched in baltimore

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im

right in this camp. Im scared to let him go just because its awesome having a guy like him with all the young guys coming in. I dont mind using him in blowouts or in certian Lefty-Lefty situations, but even then its kind of scary

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

a chinese LOOGY?

ROOGY? Can I even say that?

by SteveP on Apr 27, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

what a weird night…

Yahoo says Lilly has given up 5 runs, 7ER though…

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

josey

read this

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/2/9/754448/pecota-2009-depth-chart-pr#12138568

JD’s trades:

losses for the rangers (all in hindsight):
-soriano for wilkerson, gallarraga and sledge (2005)
-adrian gonzalez, sledge, chris young for adam eaton, aki otsuka and billy killian (2005)
-traded nick massett, jacob rasner and john danks for brandon mccarthy and david paisano (2007)
-armando galarraga for michaeln hernandez (this will be in the wash either way after this year, GUARANTEE it)

wash either way:
-esteban german for fabio castro
3 way deal w/ oakland and cubs – traded dominguez and recieved rheinecker, john koronka and cash
-david dellucci for jake blalock and robinson tejeda
-john hudgins and vince sisini for freddy guzman and cesar rojas
-brain shouse for enrique cruz and cash
-fabio castro for daniel haigwood and cash
-brian corey for luis mendoza
-mike nickeas for victor diaz
-john lujan for chris stewart
-freddy guzman for chris shelton
-tug hulett for ben broussard
-jose marte for dusin nippert
-eddie guardado for mark hamburger

wins for the rangers:
-vincente padilla for PTNBL (ricardo rodriguez)
-laynce nix, kevin mench, julian cordero and coco cordero for carlos lee, nelson cruz and 2 1st rd picks (main and borbon)
-eric cagne for david murphy, engel beltre and kason gabbard
-mark teixeria and ron mahay for neftali feliz, jarrod saltamacchia, elvis andrus, matt harrison and beau jones
-danny ray herrera and edinson volquez for josh hamilton (both teams won)

built from within
rangers have "home acquired" players at 3b (young), 2b (kinsler), catcher (TT/salty/maxram), 1b/dh (blalock/davis), pitching (cj, frankie, etc)

of the players on the 40 man the players who have not played some amt in the rangers minor league system before getting on the 40 man:
gabbard (trade)
millwood (FA)
moscoso (trade)
nippert (trade)
padilla (trade)
byrd (FA)
catt (FA)
golson (recently traded for)
hamilton (everyone knows his story)
murphy (trade)

now if nolan had made these moves as GM what would you think?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

The effort is appreciated, knockoutking

but all I really have to do is check the standings.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you would say that a GM who went 61-101 and 66-96 his first two seasons in his first job as GM should be fired, correct?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did that GM trade Chris Young & AG for a bag of rocks?

Did that GM trade John Danks for Brandon McCarthy?

Did that GM DFA Galarraga so he could spend $ 4.5 million on Jason Jennings?

Did that GM trade Soriano in a contract year for Wilkerson?

Did that GM hire and then extend Ron Washington?

I don’t think Tampa’s GM did anything close to that which is a good reason his team went to the World Series.

Next.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont know if the TB GM did anything close to that

all i really have to do is check the standings

and see that in the 4 years he was in charge of player develomet/the GM they won 70, 67, 61 and 66 games…

right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its all about the standings

“JD’s made great moves that have helped the team win”

“So, check the standings. He still hasn’t had a team won 90+ games at least 3 years in a row”

“Okay, so what about all these other GMs that have failed to put up these consistent 90+ win teams? Do you think they all suck”

“List of bad JD moves”

“But isn’t it all about the standings only and not the moves?”

Repeat

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

i want to see his response to my question

…seriously

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You won't get one

At least not a real one.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can hope

come on josey…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

he is employing joe madden

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

*maddon

every time

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

then extol the greateness of the person who TRADED for harrison…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can Harrison prove he's worth a damn in The Show

before I give compliments to the GM that traded for him?

It was one outing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

your the one trying to extol his greatness

not me

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am giving Harrison credit for his performance tonight.

The fact that he had a very gutty performance speaks well for him but it does not erase all of JD’s past incompetence.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

so if he goes 15-0 the rest of the year

i bet you credit nolan for teaching him the bulldog mentality…and still cant praise JD for trading for him

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

clearly that wasnt helping the team win any games...right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

not short

selective!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

hit it on the head!

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, but I'm mixing in how much run support he received, his ERA

and the number of Game Scores above 50 he had.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to extol the greatness of Matt Harrison, punk.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you stated that all you care about are results

You can’t credit run support for Matt, then say that Feldman was a terrible starter when 6 of his losses were due to lack of run support

by awillis111 on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

clearly matt cain is no good either

his win-loss record is 32-43….hes horrible!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Decide!
I’m trying to extol the greatness of Matt Harrison, punk.
Can Harrison prove he’s worth a damn in The Show
before I give compliments to the GM that traded for him?

by Inkara1 on Apr 27, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't get mad

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The greatness of Matt Harrison

I thought I was an idiot for saying Matt Harrison is a great pitcher. And now here you are, extolling his greatness. I guess where I went wrong was not calling anyone a punk while I did it.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

well in regards to having an effect on the MLB team winning its not so far

but yea — as are the nippert/juan dominguez deals – your right

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree with the Galarraga being a wash after this year

even if he fails for the rest of his career, we gave him away for someone who we released. He had a good (albeit lucky) season for the Tigers. Could have had that with us.

Otherwise, you would have to call the Gagne trade a wash right now too. Murphy hasn’t been that good, Gabbard was a fail, and Beltre is no sure thing.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

murphy

career ~110 OPS+, can play multiple positions, will have a career as a 4th/5th OF = win to me (especially after what gange did in BOS)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's not valuable

I like the Murph as a 4th OF on our club.

I’m just saying that you’d have to give the same merit to Galarraga, who has been more of a win to DET than Murphy has for us.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

also to be fair

i made the post in feb haha

but yes, your right (and galarraga is in the losses for the rangers)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was still a bad move

But similar to when JD gave up Chris Young, its not the end of the world. Referring to the Gagne trade is a great example of this. Boston isn’t going to be missing Murphy (and especially not Gabbard anymore), but they still would have liked to get something better in return than Gagne. Same thing here. You would like a better return, you chalk it up in the loss column for JD, but its not some huge team killing move.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Maybe we’re overblowing this. Maybe Galarraga is what Mendoza is with us if he isn’t traded.

Maybe Mendoza goes elsewhere and blooms, and I sit here and shit myself in anger over another Latino pitcher gone by the wayside.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

shitting in anger is never a safe thing

People get hurt doing that

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

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"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re-reading this, makes me come across as really sarcastic.

I promise I wasn’t going for that. Aside from the pants-shitting.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

and really, you shouldn’t look at these trades with so much hindsight or else you aren’t going to properly evaluate these trades (And the GM’s who make them)

While it is important to know whether Beltre or Galarraga end up being good players (in essence, grading how well you are at identifying potential), it is equally important too know how those players were perceived on the open market at the time. I think it shouldn’t be overlooked that people thought JD won the Soriano trade and at least people were iffy on the McCarthy trade. He definitely gets points off now that we know that they didn’t work out (and perhaps he shouldnt’ get too much credit for Soriano since Washington might have been pulling one over on us) but it’s almost a different part of the evaluation.

but yeah, there is no way the galarraga trade (or the eaton trade) is anything but bad

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is right

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gagne trade is a win

even if Murphy and Beltre don’t amount to anything more than they already have. Why? Because they don’t have to be great… they only have to be better than Gagne.

by Inkara1 on Apr 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

eh

you could say that they could have gotten better value for gagne.

but you could also say that getting a 4th OF and a blue chip prospect are enough, even if they don’t pan out. so even the chance at having a f tool CF of the future is better than trading for a lesser, more certain player

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

*5 tool

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

They could have, sure

But that’s not the definition of “winning” a trade. All it takes to win the trade is that things turned out better for us than for them.

by Inkara1 on Apr 28, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's what i'm saying

that’s certainly one way to evaluate it.

but i’d rather evaluate trades by looking at the present market value of the actors involved and incorporate the end results. at least, that gives a better picture of how good a GM is

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

And the draft pick they got for Gagne, right?

You’re not forgetting about that, right?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

who did it end up being btw?

(i dont remember)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

under those same guidelines the Danks trade was horrible, right?

I don’t get this, and a LOT of people have the attitude that Gagne was a great deal because he flamed out AFTER we traded him, but in the same thread they will say that the Danks deal is defensible because we had no idea what Danks would turn into AFTER we traded him.

Not picking on you, but don’t you see the double standard there?

If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???

surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.

by tricer on Apr 28, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Approaching a milestone

In troll feeding tonight, huh?

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

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by Ed Coffin on Apr 27, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm just trying to compliment Matt Harrison for a good performance

when this team desperately needed it.

That arm doesn’t belong in OKC, Ed.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

then who brought that arm into the system?

nolan, right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course he doesn't belong there

And why is it you’re telling us this? Because you said earlier today that he should go into the bullpen. Now you’re going to tell us how you knew this whole time that he should never have gone to the minors.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gdawg,

Go to today’s GDT or it may have been in Monday’s discussion.

I said I’d roll with Harrison for a couple of more starts and then reevaluate.

Try to mix in the truth every once in a while.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

And this is what I said

“If Harrison falls on his face tonight (which I think he will), why not let him work out of the bullpen for a while?

There’s something there but what we’re seeing are the typical struggles young pitchers have when they’re breaking into The Show. I don’t think sending him down to AAA is the answer. The kid needs to learn how to get big league hitters out and splashing around the bully for a while might not be a bad idea."

I thought he’d fall on his face tonight but he didn’t. I also don’t want that arm in the minors.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you were wrong

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the important thing is not that he was wrong

Its that he was right about not wanting Harrison in the minors. Therefore, Josey is still always right and never wrong.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

i've never wanted to pull back the veil of anonymity more for someone

does he have a wife? kids? actually a woman? Management? at a McDonald’s?

at least wufdog used to tell us about how successful he was in life.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the guessing game aspect of it

That’s why wufdog’s no fun.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, what's your guess?

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did that GM trade Chris Young & AG for a bag of rocks?

Did that GM trade John Danks for Brandon McCarthy?

Did that GM DFA Galarraga so he could spend $ 4.5 million on Jason Jennings?

Did that GM trade Soriano in a contract year for Wilkerson?

Did that GM hire and then extend Ron Washington?

I don’t think Tampa’s GM did anything close to that which is a good reason his team went to the World Series.

Next.
i dont know if the TB GM did anything close to that

all i really have to do is check the standings

and see that in the 4 years he was in charge of player develomet/the GM they won 70, 67, 61 and 66 games…

right?

???

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 27, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 thing that is never mentioned about the Danks/BMac trade

is that Marc Connor got his hands on BMac and screwed u[ his mechanics to the point that it caused the injuries

by awillis111 on Apr 27, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's mentioned alot

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

nah

bmac has always had bad mechanics. and always will have bad mechanics.

by SteveP on Apr 28, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll give you credit for that

because I choked on a french fry when I read it.

by awillis111 on Apr 27, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

how sad that everybody picks on you

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

this has to stop... I cant believe the amount of space is wasted on this website

do to this stupid arguing… unreal

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe its just me

But I find a lot of comedic gold in his posts. Especially like what he has had in recent days. Its like someone is jokingly responding to a post as Josey, only its actually him.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

somewhat cathartic to engage in

like hitting tennis balls against a wall.

you hit it harder and harder sort of expecting yourself to beat the wall at some point.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I one time beat the wall

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

unfortunately the wall

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

see

as much as you try to think of the wall as a worthy adversary or an actual person, it’s still just a wall

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Until you fall spectacularly on your ass like ab03 did in

the thread that featured benmor’s classic flick.

Yes, I thought Harrison would have a bad performance tonight but the kid showed some serious onions. I rarely argue with the Great Bill James but I have issues with Harrison getting a Game Score of only 49 because that does not tell the story.

Let’s bask in the afterglow of a very nice victory and a wonderful road trip..

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean

where you proclaimed homophobia and then backed it up with “my brother’s wife’s sister is gay?”

good times

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

How dare you

Game Scores are everything

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Great Bill James

You do know he employs the use of a statistic that thinks MY was a terrible shortstop, yes?

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, Josey, I would like you to give me a succinct but thorough essay on why. . .

. . . Win Shares is a more thorough and useful player evaluation tool than FanGraphs’ Value Wins.

For honest educational purposes.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

philkid3

but you’re not Bill James.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

he only wants to dispell his knowledge

to his lord and savior

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Apr 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

id say it depends

on how long josey has his lips planted on james’s ass

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by studcrackers on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

studcrackers,

Is your next podcast going to be worth a damn because your last “effort” was beyond embarrassing.

just sayin’

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

which one are

you referring to? the nfl draft one or the rangers one? somehow i doubt you listened to either but thanks either way.

if it’s the rangers one id agree it was less then stellar, the nfl draft one was great though

go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com

by studcrackers on Apr 28, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

still

it can’t be all that nice to know that someone who ostensibly follows your work thinks that michael young should have remained at SS

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

ab03

I had no problems with shifting Michael Young to 3B.

I just don’t think Elvis Andrus is ready for The Show this year.

Try to mix in the truth.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love the overuse of words.

Great writing. I especially love the choice of “The Show.”

You know what’s weird? I’ve trolled a few message boards in my day, but once everyone figures out I’m a troll and stops taking me seriously, I tend to stop posting. But, Josey keeps at it. It’s very unique.

by philkid3 on Apr 28, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Philkid3, the reason we are seeing all this vitriol

is because I am taken very, very seriously and everything I write is pored over closely.

People in here are mad at me because I’m not a mindless cheerleader for the team.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

nobody cares about you

you could die, disappear, and we wouldn’t skip a beat

someone might say, where’s Josey, and that’s about it.

see sharky, steal home, hurler, seven for proof.

you’re the same as they are. you’re a nobody.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 28, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go ahead and explain the difference to your girlfriend, philkid

she’ll think it’s foreplay.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who says I know the difference?

You’re dodging the question again, Josey. I thought you didn’t avoid arguments?

by philkid3 on Apr 28, 2009 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just came back after a couple hours

And saw 280 new comments… I knew we had another troll war on our hands.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The place is on fire

yet I’ve complimented Matt Harrison for his gutty performance and admitted that I was wrong on how he’d do tonight.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing new

you’re always wrong

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

and subsequently ignored every comment that calls you out with your previous statements

by Horns130 on Apr 28, 2009 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

remind me who traded

for the player who you loveloveloved tonight?
who turned in the gritty/gutty (is that a word?) performance?

hint: it wasnt nolan.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 28, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta admit

that even I am shocked by the vitriol in here tonight.

My prediction for failure on Harrison was wrong and I came correct and lauded the kid for a gutty performance and here comes the cavalry.

Wow…that is true presence.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

christ you're stupid

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 27, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you believe in a collective consciousness? karma?

it cannot be a good thing that so many people wish ill of you. I would just mull that over.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

When those people are of a mindset to act like this

because they’ve had their widdle baseball feelings hurt?

Not so much.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

this look anything like him:

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

or this one might be him:

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, that's actually pretty close.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the goatee reminds me of Eddie Guardado's goatee. But that's just the goatee in and of itself.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could almost swear that there is some actor that looks like him with that goatee

Maybe its some d-bag reality star or something, but I know he looks a lot like someone and just haven’t been able to place my finger on it all night.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

uh

when did harrison start throwing mid 90’s? maybe having a confident young stud like holland around will rub off on some of these guys.

by SteveP on Apr 27, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

he was throwing mid 90s in the 6th & 7th

after close to 50 pitches in the first two innings which blew me away

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 27, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was impressive for sure,

i just hope he can repeat his mechanics or delivery or whatever it was tonight next time out

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 28, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

at least last year

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 28, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any thread Josey participates in inevitably sucks.

I’ve actually stopped going back and reading the AM threads because half of it is usually a flamewar with him.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's usually what I do.

But I’m looking forward to his thorough explanation of Win Shares vs. WAR.

by philkid3 on Apr 27, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

Im sure youll get a detailed well thought out response breaking down the merits for each…:)

by Horns130 on Apr 28, 2009 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not his fault.

It’s the fucktards who insist on replying to him.

I’m way more disappointed in them than I am angry at JW.

He’s a pathetic dolt, nothing more, nothing less.

But some people on this blog still try to talk to and reason with him and then somehow express actual surprise and/or frustration when he acts the same exact way he always does.

What’s that old line about how the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? I hope that’s not true, cause if it is we’ve got a lot of crazy as fuck users on this board… pretty much everyone who ever tries to reason with Josey.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Apr 28, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, true

That’s why I try not to participate in threads involving him. It seems to be pretty easy to get caught up in the whole shitstorm.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lefty One Out GuY

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on Apr 27, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didnt get this for a while so dont feel dumb, but essentially

its a specialized guy who goes out there and gets one or two outs against Left handed hitter or right handed hitters out of the pen, whichever handedness he is.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

crap, i took to long to type the post...

sorry about the redundancy

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

and you didn't give the greatest answer either

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by ab03 on Apr 27, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey i tried...

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

ab just likes to rag on people, no biggie

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 28, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, technically you were wrong is what he was saying. A LOOGY has to be left handed.

Lefty One Out GuY.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

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by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Dave Winfield just said

that Young was a nice young hitter… LMFAO, haha, where the hell has he been?

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Was anyone else watching this? It was hilarious

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 27, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I saw it.

lol’d pretty hard. Typical ESPN “analyst”.

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by Maximilian on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

somehow

this does fit my mind’s eye view of josey

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 28, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is my minds view of The Outlaw

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha,

i wouldnt have noticed that, but it does look like a camel

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 28, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought of that

But I’ve always thought if he was dwidregod, he’d be constantly bragging about his status as a cop.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

he couldn’t handle the stalkers

by awillis111 on Apr 28, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

LSJ

you are in the LA area, right?

by awillis111 on Apr 28, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

In OC, yeah.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

oK

Why does everybody make such a big deal about In-Out Burgers, when Del Taco’s are much better?

Just had to ask.

by awillis111 on Apr 28, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't know

Carls Jr. burgers are my preference really. I haven’t eaten at in-n-out in a long time.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never eaten at Farmer Boys.

Is that in CA?

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Ontario I-10/Milliken across RR from truck stop and I-5/Alameda, that I know of

by awillis111 on Apr 28, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just googled 'em...

Looks like they’ve got a couple locations in Anaheim. I’ll have to remember to check them out sometime.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Del Taco isn't even in the same league as In and Out

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course not

One does hamburgers, one does tacos. Both are in different leagues than Subway.

by Inkara1 on Apr 28, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Del Taco

does burgers too

http://www.deltaco.com/page4.html

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 28, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I miss Del Taco

because they Del Rocko. I love being able to get some tacos, fries and burgers.

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by Parman on Apr 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

They both have these traits:

1. Hate JD/Wash/Nolan/Hicks

2 Think their opinions are the only correct ones, and therefore beyond reproach

3. And will avoid an argument when proven wrong

by awillis111 on Apr 28, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't avoid arguments

but I do avoid wastes of time.

Sharky & moi are not the same. Don’t know anything about him but I have freely admitted when I was wrong in the past.

It just doesn’t happen very often.

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by Josey Wales on Apr 28, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, you avoid arguments.

Every single time you are challenged on something and you don’t have an answer or you’re worried you’ll be wrong, you ignore it.

If I’m wrong, prove it.

by philkid3 on Apr 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

josey doesn't avoid shit bitch

you want to fight… fight with me.

meet me at high noon. we’ll pace off ten paces and stand there waiting for the other person to draw his gun

by cowpoke on Apr 28, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Woooooo

No, meet me at high noon, we’ll pace of whatever it takes to get to a good table and enjoy some Mariano’s greatness. And I won’t even kick your butt in the process. hehehe

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

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by Ed Coffin on Apr 28, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it's anyone it's Hurler. They have a ton of the same mannerisms.

He’s not really much like Sharky at all, other than just the general insanity.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Super Duper This

I’ve thought this for some time.

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by Parman on Apr 28, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Saw it on mlb, I couldn’t tell if it was the game announcers or the mlb studio guys, but as soon as they showed it, someone said “juuuuuuuuust a bit outside, and that’s a balk.”

by bhudson on Apr 28, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there anyone else

or just me who’s starting to scroll over the “Outlaw versus everyone” debates now?

And I think I’m starting to feel excited about the entire current rotation (i.e. if we’re not including Holland and co. into the equation yet) after Harrison came around tonight…they’re starting to look like five very solid pitchers, all with capable stuff. Of course, whether they can use it is another matter…

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Apr 28, 2009 1:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe I am

but again, I like the stuff of all our starters. None of them are really “soft tossers” but then again, they’re not too reliable as strike-throwers…yet.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Apr 28, 2009 5:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been scrolling through Josey's bullshit wars for months now.

It’s not worth reading.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

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by LSJ on Apr 28, 2009 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

im starting to wonder who Holland will replace

if no one gets hurt. i dont wanna see benson again. Id like to think Harrison can continue to be aggressive from here on out and i never thought feldman should have lost his spot to begin with… Maybe someone sucks alot to the point where its obvious, but right now i have hope that all the guys in there can be reasonably successful

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 28, 2009 4:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

You create a spot for him

Trade one of Millwood or Padilla

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 28, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

eff this weather

I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...

by Longhorn on Apr 28, 2009 4:02 AM CDT reply actions  

This thread is a colossal waste

If you don’t agree with something Josey says, who cares? Nobody agrees with Josey. Please do not respond.

Cowpoke is a tired troll act that we’ve seen way too many times. Let him be a d-bag on his own, and ignore him.

The 2 of them get what they want when you respond angrily to them. Just leave them be, and in time, they’ll be gone.

by cmkelly29 on Apr 28, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions  

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