Josh Hamilton in pain, likely heading for the d.l.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 28, 2009 4:10 PM CDT
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This is troubling.
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Is this an injury that was caused when he hit the wall in CF??
Or is it just wear and tear? I think i remember about the CF run in, but im not positive.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
I broke a rib playing softball last summer
I was on the DL for a month. Season ending injury. Hard as hell to breath.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
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Hamilton sure looked like he was having trouble breathing the other night
maybe it was a cracked rib from his collision with the wall that got aggravated or broke when he was running the bases or sliding. He looked to be in severe pain and having difficulty breathing after he scored that run.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
Cracked or broken rib is a bitch
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
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Hope they would have caught that already
They did check for it at least once already, according to Jeff Wilson:
X-rays were negative
X-rays
are not really sensitive for picking up nondisplaced rib fractures. Bone scans or CT are more sensitive, but not often done because pain from a rib sprain can be just as bad and last for 4-6 weeks. If Josh is hurting that bad, I will bet the DL stay will be closer to 30 days than 15.
Cartilage Swelling
Don’t remember the technical term for it, but I had a nasty crash between my sternum and someone’s head in a soccer game in high school. It hurt somewhat right after, but about a week after it became hard to even breathe. The doctor said it was irritation or swelling in the cartilage around the sternum that can flare up a week or so after a blunt force injury to the rib cage. It doesn’t show up on x-rays. I can’t imagine trying to run at any speed, much less swing a bat with it if he has something similar. It was about 4 weeks before I could run normally.
by festivus4all on Apr 28, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah no doubt
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
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No kidding
I have yet to read a description of his injury that really makes sense yet. What exactly is wrong? Do they even know?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
it makes sense
if he wasn’t snarling and Ron asked if he was good to go, and he said yes. it isn’t too smart of Josh, though, if he knew he was hurt.
I’ll trust that he hurt himself originally, felt he was OK, then aggravated it pretty badly after the pinch hitting sequence
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes the most sense to me
First time he’d swung the bat in a game situation and then had to run to first in a game situation… that probably got it back started, and then his sequence running the bases before scoring.
In a way
I really hope it is just rib strain (painful connective tissues) and not anything worse. Scary.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 28, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions
Hope it's not a cartilage situation or we're looking at
6-8 weeks, I think.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Cartilage
I just posted above about something similar that happened to me. 4 weeks before I could run hard, would probably be 6 weeks at a minimum to swing a bat comfortably, maybe more…. GULP….
by festivus4all on Apr 28, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Any ideas
as to who would get called up?
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
Wade's kid I would think
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my guess
would be boggs. he makes the most sense at this point in the season
by dustinvandeman on Apr 28, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I would assume Boggs
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Yep
Brandon has just returned to OKC from being on leave (bereavement). Don’t know if that could influence things at this moment.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 28, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I's like to see toolbox
not taking into consideration the 40
Golsons already on the 40 so there wouldn't have to be any maneuvering
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
isn't Borbon on the 40 too
Golson is not ready though
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
I don't think either of them are ready
Golson does have some ML time though last year with the Phils IIRC
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I agree
they both need more time. Boggs deserves to be in Arlington.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
I'd like to see Borbon
so we can pinch run him and get his feet wet…only if it’s between Golson and he. If Boggs is good to go, go with him.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Golsons is supposedly faster
So wouldn’t you like to see him instead?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
speed doesn't translate into thievery in all situations
so whoever helps this team the most both now and in the future, bring’em up – and apparently he’s hitting the best of the three
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 29, 2009 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions
if we are looking for a full time CF
then why not see what Borbon can do? He’s hitting .300 down in OKC, just like he has everywhere else in his career. why not role with him in CF and Byrd and Cruz on the corners and let Murphy keep doing his thing as the 4th OF?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
6-8 weeks
is a fairly large portion of the season. I like Boggs and all, but I think Borbon brings more to the table. And if Borbon plays well, we can attempt to trade Byrd this summer to the many teams who could use him.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
6-8 weeks is quite an assumption at this point.
But still, I almost willing to bet that Golson is next in line after Boggs, right now.
actually
after thinking about it, it looks like we are set to face three lefties in this A’s series, so Boggs may make more sense in the short term. I would much rather have his bat in the lineup against lefties than Murphy’s.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
and why would Golson
be more in line than Borbon?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Because he's so hot right now, for 1
And Borbon still has some polishing to be done. I really just want Borbon to put it all together before before we pull the trigger.
i would think
Golson needs more polish than Borbon. Golson has yet to hit about 300 at any level while all Borbon has done was hit. His big knock is the fact that he doesn’t walk enough. I’ll take Borbon
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
I don't mind bringing Golson up for a taste
and sending him back down. Borbon, once up, I don’t want to send him back down.
Let's keep this in perspective
Edinson Volquez: 6.20 ERA, 22 K / 20 BB in 20.1
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
Maybe they're like E.T. and Elliot.
When one sucks so does the other.
by JBP on Apr 28, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better than my attempt at humor.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Apr 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
i have no idea what you two are talking about
in my life, suckage and frustration have usually been closely linked.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I've always enjoyed suckage in my life.
/Dirty Norm
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I was gonna say
I played catcher in high school, but that doesn’t sound good.
So, I’ll just say receiving.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
either way, you're screwed
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
negative.
I’m more frustrated when I DON’T suck and still lose.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't "oitches" when Popeye has a rash??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
This is bad news
how do you think this effects his contract extension?
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Get back to me in 3 more years when hes about to be a free agent
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
yeah
after I posted the comment, i thought it was a little early, but it was a thought that went through my head. Hamilton has yet to play a full healthy season, so it’s a concern
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
What was last year?
I think he was healthy all last year. Did I miss an injury he had?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
yeah
for some reason I thought he had take more days off last year. Perhaps I was thinking of a combination of his weak second half where he wore down and our old friend Milton.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
He had a weak second half last year?
Sure his .874 OPS in the 2nd half was lower than the .919 of the first half, but it seems like the idea he had a bad second half is more rooted in his dropoff in RBI rate than anything.
He was perfectly fine in the second half.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
perfectly fine
but not Godly…there was a difference, albeit less noticeable than what you would assume looking at his RBI totals
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Please tell me
this was x-rayed after the initial injury. And not just, “Rest it for a day, and then tell us how you feel.”
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
batting order
now all the sudden our “lefty heavy” lineup that everybody was worrying about doesn’t really have a lefty bat worthy of being in the middle of the order.
I guess we will probably be seeing:
Kinsler
Murphy
MY
Blalock
Byrd
Cruz
Davis
Salty
Elvis
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
personally
i would like to see a lot more of Andruw Jones, I mean, if we are actually trying to win games.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
i said this in another thread
but he played a really good LF that one game (so says UZR)
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
watching him in the OF
he is painfully slow now. I’m talking about Carlos Lee type range.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
no way
i just can’t believe that. Carlos Lee is comically bad in the field. How could Jones drop so far so fast? How many times have you seen him in the field this year?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I'm not exaggerating
I saw him chasing a ball to the gap and just watching him run full speed, he reminded me of Carlos Lee. Not only slow, but also kinda clumsy and awkward. I remember it very clearly because it was so shocking to see it, but trust me that brief glimpse convinced me that he will never be a CF again.
I think he has only played one game in the field, so I don’t have much to base it on, but then again, there is probably a good reason why he has only played one game in the field.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
we'll find out
if all of a sudden Boggs comes up and starts playing LF while Murphy has a day off and Byrd plays CF
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
he may be slow
but he was never really a true speedster even in his early years.. a lot of his OF play had to be in getting good jumps, good routes and all that… which shouldn’t fade.
the preceding post was a great success.
this is what i'm saying
maybe i’m trusting these defensive metrics too much but UZR rated him having a pretty good game (definitely above average). make what you want of that.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
Its too bad we didn't listen to all those people saying Jones was a horrible idea
where are they now?
I know I'm guilty.
Been a pleasant surprise so far, to say the least. Doesn’t seem like he’ll be pulling veteran-rank, clamoring for playing time. And Wash hasn’t felt the need to bench anyone(i.e. Davis) to get him veteran time.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
What!!!!!????
Yeah…
I don’t mind one worthless player being on the team (and in my opinion, both are pretty worthless). I prefer Cat, just because he has a cooler name I guess. But really, my guess is neither will be on the roster in August anyway.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Hamilton
As soon as he’s off the DL he needs to be moved to right field and left there. No more center for him.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
Not RF
If the nature of his injury or recurring pain is ribs (or any torso related damage) the throws from RF might be near impossible.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
well then he probably can't play any field
and would just DH. but he’s probably not swinging the bat that well if ti hurts at all
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
that's probably a good thing
if he is relegated to DH and can still swing hard…that means we have development time for Borbon and we are prepared to make him the CF in 2010 moving Josh permanently
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
it is hard to argue with this
due to injuries, but we still have Cruz and our already crazy LF position. I suppose Byrd and Murphy could slot into CF for the interim until Borbon is ready. That’s leaving AJ out of the equation as well.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
LF.
Cruz is the superior RF defender and should be left alone in RF.
Let Hamilton take LF where his speed might make him more of an asset.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Pain Killers...
So does he take them? What is the deal with that being a recovering addict?
Just bite the bullet?
Rocky Mountain Ranger
That's a REAL good question...
I bet he’s having to be in close contact with medical staff, or is just biting that bullet as you say.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Boggs
OKC had an early game in Omaha today. Could we see Boggs in the Rangers dugout tonight?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Think the travelling secretary can get him there with more than 10 mins to spare????
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Boggs seems natural, especially since they need more of a bench guy than anything
but it is kind of interesting that Borbon is hitting the best of the group at the moment.
But does it have to be an outfielder?
We already have Murphy, Byrd, Cruz, and Jones, so what’s keeping us from bringing up someone like Duran if that player is just going to sit on the bench? Even Joaquin Arias. I’d rather Boggs get all the ABs he can while playing the outfield every day keeping his plus defense going.
Borbon
come on, it’s freaking Borbon…come on down.
Best way to offset his offense is to get thet best defensive CF out there, and that’s Borbon by a country mile…
do it.
I use to love to hit, I use to take it serious. I only got one at bat a year, maybe...but, I took it serious. I hit 1.000 one year, if i had another at bat, I'd hit 2.000...
i don't think the offsets work out
and even if hamilton wasn’t producing, his presence was enough.
if you just replaced jones’ bat with hamilton’s, shifted him to left and byrd to CF (who played extremely well there last year), you might be able to offset both much better
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
so yeah
about that contract josh….
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
Thats kind of kneejerk don't you think?
First lets wait and see what the exam shows before we decide he’s not worth a contract ext.
oh you still give him a contract extension
but i would wait until the off season. i was against extending his contract before the season. don’t do it riding high on the good number he put up. see if he can repeat it.
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
we can still go get cat
lol
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Definitely a good call.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
not really a tough call in my book
seeing as how they were trying to find a way to get rid of him the last year and found no takers
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite excuse
that I heard hear for keeping Cat was basicly that he sucked so much Wash wouldn’t be tempted to play him, so he was a better player to keep than Jones.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
If Josh gets DL'd
could this be used as an excuse to bring up another BP arm for 10-15 days?
Say Diamond or Beau Jones (I know he’s not on 40-man).
those guys can't get AA/AAA hitters out
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
neither can our current bullpen...
it may not be a horrible idea.
by lost in space on Apr 28, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Mathis
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Apr 28, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're throwing out the 40 man implications.
The best player in this situation to call up is Esteban German. Patient hitter, won’t be ruined with lack of PT, can play left field in an emergency, and can play the infield.
Doug Mathis is at OKC and pitching great
he is NOT on the 40 man roster, what would they have to do to bring him up?
When will this Rangers Pitching Nightmare Ever End, Year after year after year, it just goes on and on........
gabbard is in boston
i’m not sure if you realized that
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
was weird
was watching the game on mute. saw “gabbard” on the mound. was like, “lsb totally missed this!!”
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
do like they did in the old days
trade hamilton to a team like the marlins for somebody with cash. when hammy is healthy trade back for him with some more cash.
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
If you remove one of Hamilton's ribs
will it turn into a woman?
That's why they call them business sox
by egriffey on Apr 28, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Lineup
1 I. Kinsler 2B
2 M. Byrd CF
3 M. Young 3B
4 An. Jones LF
5 H. Blalock DH
6 N. Cruz RF
7 C. Davis 1B
8 J. Saltalamacchia C
9 E. Andrus SS
Rocky Mountain Ranger
I can live with this line up...
Interesting to see MY batting 3rd although Murphy isn’t in the line up. I thought Byrd had #5 locked down?
by lost in space on Apr 28, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you do one of those
posts where you take a direct “quote” from someones comment and put it in yours? its in another post all together?
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
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