The A.L. West Standings
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 29, 2009 10:50 AM CDT
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Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Next stop...
First place baby!
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Uh, with 12,627 at TBiA last night
Ben Sheets ain’t happening.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Uh
With bad weather most of the day and possibility of more storms later, along with the Mavs playoff game, thats not that bad a number
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
you remind me of...
Oddball: Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
by SanDiegoKev on Apr 29, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Kelly's Heroes and spoken by Jack Bauer's
dad.
What’s up!?!??
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
oh,
just an observation. Lets try to be more postiive about this team?
by SanDiegoKev on Apr 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
never understood
how a 60s era type of character made it into a WWII movie
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Well,
Oddball was before his time, a predecessor to the movement. Hip before Hip was invented sort of thing.
No but
If the Rangers could sign him and he is healthy that is better than a trade if the Rangers are still in it come July.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
I would expect a very public flirtation with Sheets
to get the hopes up of the fans but they won’t sign him.
See Barry Zito, Torii Hunter, Carlos Delgado
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank Buddha
none of those came to fruition.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
So...
…the extravagant contract offers we made to Zito, Hunter, Delgado (and Teixeira, remember him?) were not legitimate offers, but simply designed to “get the hopes up of the fans?”
Do you understand what a contract offer is?
by FuturePants on Apr 29, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
That's right, I forgot about the very earnest $ 140 million
offer (that was $ 44 million below his market value) made to Tex as well.
You realize that offer was made very public to give the Rangers pr cover and that they knew Teixeira would never sign the deal, doncha?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Once again,
thankfully that wasn’t accepted.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Amen brother
paying a good but not great 1B like a HoF would be stupid. I think we may end up being as lucky that he turned it down as we were when Juan turned down the same offer.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
For different reasons, but yah you might be right.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I don’t think Teix will be as unhealthy as Juan, but I don’t think he is as good at his peak either. Juan was an absolute beast for months at a time. I’d be surprised if Teix is all that great on the back half of that contract.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
Plus the return haul,
the rise of CD, and the drafting of Smoak.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I was mad at that Teixeira deal
mostly because I don’t think he’ll be worth $140 million over the next 8 years (or whatever it was).
this is the kind of stuff
that just makes me roll my eyes
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Well man that explains why they offered Michael Young 80 million...
NO WAY he’d accept that!
by slimshadty12 on Apr 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh
I don’t want to jinx it, but a win tonight, and we’ll be closer to first place than to last place….
if we lose
I’m holding you responsible…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
I'll take it.
I’m not sure if Seattle has staying power. Then again, I’m not sure if the Rangers do either.
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With F-Her and E-Bed at the top of their rotation they've got a pretty solid foundation.
But they’ve got to score runs and who knows how that’s gonna happen with any consistency with that lineup.
But oh my word does F-Her look good this year.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Hefer and E-Trade will go down in a blaze of arm troubles this year
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Yeah but
Silva, Washburn and Jacawhatever?
Go Rangers...don't suck...
by Kinslerhomer on Apr 29, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
thats
quite the dropoff…
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Yeah...
…they’ve got the best top two of the rotation in the division, no doubt. But like you said, the question is, how are they going to score consistently?
Quick Quiz: Jose Lopez leads the Mariners in RBI. Who’s second and third? Answer: Yuniesky Betancourt and Russell “The Muscle” Branyan.
Color me skeptical of the M’s offense.
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I can't see the M's winning 90 games
but they’re significantly better and the possibility of them finishing above .500 cannot be dismissed.
I thought they had a decent chance at recovery given how everything that could go wrong, went wrong last year for the M’s. The pendulum swinging back just a little was going to bring them back to 75 wins.
Then they attacked some of their internal weaknesses as a team and also brought in a new gm/manager.
Not that hard to see why they’re a better team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Seems like with all the crap they've been going through the Angels should be buried.
I have to wonder if they won’t be a team on a mission once (if?) they get Lackey and E-Sant back.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
My only hope is that the Angels are so far behind by then nothing they do matters.
They’re a good team, but their glory days are behind them. And as for the M’s, they’re only good as long as Bedard is healthy and they can score enough runs to win. The odds on both of those things happening all season aren’t very good.
by macromorgan on Apr 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I've also come to the conclusion that you can't really figure out
or get a sense on how the A’s are going to do until after Memorial Day.
If they’re not buried on June 1, you always have to give them consideration.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
That is their history,
but they always had some established pitchers to rely on back then. Established being the key word. Not saying their current crop can’t be good, just no history there.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
scoop16
They played a lot of kids last year down the stretch (which is an incredibly valuable thing to do) and then there was this major influx of vets brought in this year which probably upset the apple cart.
Everybody is probably stil trying learn how to play together and I’d look for them to bob around .500 until June.
Their pythag suggests they’re a .500 club but I can’t figure out which way they’re going to go (although it should be noted before the season I predicted them to win, I think 86 games and finish a game behind the Angels).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, so it's a valuable thing to have Andrus playing then
Glad you agree with us all.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 29, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do we continue
to respond to Outlaw and then bitch when he gets all trolltastic on us.I really think some of the people here enjoy his baiting as much as he does.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
heh
I rarely respond…that one was just too obvious…my mistake…moving along
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 29, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Andrus simply isn't ready and more
cracks are beginning to show.
The error total is horrific and he’s in the midst of something like a 3 for 22.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
you'll
sing this song everytime he goes into any kind of slump… Just wait til the end of the year, and as of right now, he’s holding his own at the plate and has saved us several runs on plays made by him. Yes, he’s probably cost us a game along with CJ so far, but id also say he was a key to winning a couple games.
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Agreed, blalock84
this all needs to play out before a decision can be rendered but rest assured, given how high I am up on the diving board with this prediction, I’m monitoring it very closely.
Let’s all hope I’m wrong about Andrus as well because if he is a good player this year, we may have a star on our hands.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm counting on Escobar coming back fully healthy this year like I'm counting on you bedding Jessica Alba and then calling me up and asking, "Yo, 'Tron. You want sloppy seconds on this, bro?"
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, I know... it's a pipe dream.
Ollie C would never call me “Bro.”
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see
at least a 6 game lead on the Angels by the end of May, preferably more. Otherwise, they’re going to start pecking away at that lead and eventually catch up. Lackey is a pretty nice mid-season acquisition…
yes
we need a nice cushion no matter were we are in the standings between us and the Angels in late may or June… If we can finish right above .500 we should be better than the M’s, so we cant worry about them too much b.c if we cant do that we arent gonna be in the playoffs anyways. I just hope the Angels keep struggling and bury themselves because i dont think we are really gonna be a team that “buries” anyone in the standings, they’re gonna have to do that themselves.
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Interestingly
The bulk of the Rangers games against the Angels are towards the end of the year, when all their pitchers should be getting healthy. Which is even more reason for the team to pace itself now (not rushing Hamilton back is the current example, but its also important to not overwork the bullpen arms early on).
I hope nobody in here starts to use the Hamilton injury
as a crutch (like the Murphy & Kinsler injuries were used last year) if the team stumbles over the next few weeks.
They weren’t playing that well with Hamilton.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
But last year they were
playing well with Murphy and Kinsler. After they went down not so much. You can’t sit here and tell me an MVP candidate like Kinsler going down didn’t hurt the Rangers.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
Last year
The Rangers finished 21 games behind the Angels, and 16 games behind the Wild Card. Kinsler and Murphy and a healthy Bradley may have made the team an 86 or 87 win club, but they weren’t anywhere close to a playoff team last season.
Josey is right. One or two injuries can’t be used as excuses unless the difference between the club and a playoff spot is a handful of games.
I agree - I'd much rather have 87 wins than 79
I’m just saying that if every Ranger stayed healthy last year, this team still wasn’t making the playoffs.
well i can't speak for boomer but I don't think the injury should be an excuse to show playoff potential
just that the team was getting better
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
Thank you ab03
That is where I was going with that post.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage
But NO ONE thinks the Rangers were a playoff team last year
if Kinsler and Murphy stay healthy, so your point doesn’t make sense, and Josey isn’t right. It IS valid to say the Rangers might have finished above .500 last year if Kinsler and Murphy (and a whole host of pitchers throughout the year) hadn’t been injured. And that’s all anyone here has ever tried to argue.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Has there ever been a team that gave up 967 runs and
finished above .500?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Bedard may be struggling today...
AP just took him yard.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I doubt it.
Has there ever been a team with that many injuries to its pitching staff be successful? Name a team with more injuries than the Rangers in 2008.
The team was 2 wins shy of .500 despite all those injuries. You don’t think there’s a chance they could have reached 81-82 wins with better health? Obviously the pitching sucked last year, who here has argued it didn’t? You’re not making some original, brilliant point. But they sucked in part because there were so many injuries they were forced to dig waaaaay deep in the system and overuse bullpen and young guys. But subtleties like that escape you in your rush to shout your agenda.
Name a team with more injuries last year.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I don't think there was a very good chance they were
going to be above .500 because their pythag pegged them as a below .500 team (by 4-8 games) for most of the season.
They also led the AL in errors committed from tape to tape and teams that do that almost never finish above .500.
The pendumlum simply swung the other way and exactly as I predicted it would.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Worst defense
terrible pitching, tons of injuries, and they still came within 2 games of .500. If the team had fewer injuries there is a good chance they finish at or above .500. I’m not saying they were a playoff team. I’m just saying they might have won 2 more games with better health. The injuries explain none of their glove issues, but they most certainly had an effect on the runs allowed number from the pitching staff and I’m pretty sure no one expected the team to just coast along without Kinsler, though I doubt Murphy makes a huge difference.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
no, but
has any teeam with an above 6.00 ERA in a month ever had that same month be a .500 month? Cuz that team did that.
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Or, another way of saying it
Hamilton wasn’t playing that well before his injury. The Kinsler injury was devastating last year since he was probably the MVP of the league before he got hurt. Hammy in 2009 – not so much.
I agree that injuries should never be used as a crutch, especially because both Oakland and especially the Angels are far, far more injured than the Rangers right now.
Angels are down to Baltimore
1-0 going to bottom 2nd.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinsler didn't play very well last year
after the AS Break either.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
so if they do play well
does that vindicate Jon Daniels?
Why are you talking like this before it even happens?
If the Rangers win the World Series does that vindicate Daniels? What are you trying to prove?
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Stop responding
to his bait.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Yes, JD would be vindicated if the Rangers win the World Series.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
OT - Chances
of a rain out for tonights game?
by icouldusesomebaseball on Apr 29, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions
Unfortunately, probably pretty decent.
Which sucks, since I have tickets.
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i dont' really like dollar hot dog night
those hot dogs look terrible compared to the ballpark ones and i feel obligated to get the cheaper ones
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
havent' tried it
that’s a shame if true.
But really, any sort of grilled hot dog will do just fine. aren’t’ the dollar hot dogs the ones that are soaked in water?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
OT: Swine Flu
Just got a report from a co-worker that Cleburn ISD has shut down their school system due to 3 cases of swine flu
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
All
school athletics in texas postponed until may 11
by icouldusesomebaseball on Apr 29, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i think people are going to look back at swine flu and realize
they wasted way too much time, effort, and money on a disease that wasn’t at all worth it
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
(don't write that on my grave when I die of swine flu)
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
to me
this still seems like a regular flu. I know people are dying but people die of regular flu’s too, right? Healthy individuals who have it seem to be doing just fine. If we tracked the flu last year, wouldnt’ it also seem as dangerous?
of course, we keep getting CDC reports about it with the WHO involved and talks of emergency funding and I’m not sure what to think.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
It's b/c it's a big unknown
No one knows for sure. So people get scared and panic.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
But don't several thousand people (mostly older folks)
die from some kind of variation of the flu every year?
Per the decision on postponing all the sports, wouldn’t make so much more sense to have the schools closed?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
no
it’s about controlling the spread. so you can contain the flu to one locale and if you find a case in your school, then you shut down the school.
if you find out you have a case in your school but then realize that you just played ogdenville in basketball on tuesday and shelbyville in softball on wednesday, you now have to shut down three districts.
get it?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
36k
The CDC states that 36,000 people die every year from the flu (regular every day flu).
by Oracle Galvez on Apr 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So kids can go to school every day but they
can’t play baseball, softball or run track.
Genius.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
that just made me laugh for some reason
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
you suck man.
get a life and just dont respond. there is no need for your shit either
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
i think it's about controlling the spread
i think you can do all those things at your own school
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
of course you can't play baseball softball or run track
when you don’t have any arms or legs.
Doesn’t stop you from going to school though.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Swine Flu info:
It’s just a version of Influenza A. It has some similar genetic segments to swine flu, so it’s picked up that name. Normally, it doesn’t even infect humans. The best plan of attack seems to be to try to limit the spread so that health services aren’t overwhelmed.
There are two reasons that we are having more success treating it in the US compared to Mexico (although, we have had one person die of it now). One, there seems to be a slight variation in the virus that’s running rampant in Mexico and the one we have here. The one we have here does not seem to be quite as serious…though it’s still not good. Second, we do have antivirals here that we can treat it with. They are drugs that were developed to treat Influenza, but they aren’t used very much because they take a few days to work and normally it’s not worth it to take it by the time you go to see a doctor. Considering the seriousness of this, they are using these antivirals more effectively.
by GhettoBear04 on Apr 29, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Who has raised Pandemic Level to 5
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/swine_flu_world
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
I don't know you tell me?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I already have a nice Magnetbox in the living room and a Sorny in the bedroom, so I'll pass.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Angels up 3-1 in the 7th
Bedard puts a couple of runners on but gets out of the first inning.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Ask his wife or his doctor
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
3-2
bottom 8 no outs Huff up
Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.
Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.
Panaphonics.
Come correct, broseph.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
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