Jamey and Numbers

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 4:01 PM CDT Comment 55 comments

I read Jamey's newsletters regularly (and have for a very long time). He's never seemed like a guy who was anti-numbers or really anti-stathead.

But lately, with this whole Mike Young clutchness issue, he's taken a very 'smartass-ey' stance with regard to numbers (including his last update fromt his afternoon).

Does anyone have any insight on what has set him off?

His atitude on this issue is very Hindman-esque.

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can you explain more what you are talking about?

I think I’ve missed whatever thing Jamey is doing

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 29, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jamey is always gracious to the opinion of others.

My assumption is he’s tired of getting inundated by people calling him stupid for believing in something like “clutch”.

by jthig32 on Apr 29, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Can you give an example of his 'smartass-ey' stance?

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Apr 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I saw his 100 thing

but didn’t think too much about it. His report hasn’t been a stopdown, read every one, type of thing for a few years now. I just think there is so much Ranger stuff out there, its tough to keep up with it all.

Especially now that Crops.mlblogs.com monopolizes so much time.

4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/

by DJCahill on Apr 29, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I've come to rely on Nadia Lee

more than Newberg these days. In case anyone’s forgotten

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Apr 29, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nadia, crops.mlblogs.com, rangersorrobbers

pretty much the holy trinity of Rangers blogs.

by DJCahill on Apr 29, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Apr 29, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't live day to day

without reading those three every day.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 29, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The way you keep slighting Lonerangers is getting on my nerves

Please knock it off…

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Apr 29, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I went to

lonerangers.blogspot.com, but I’m not sure thats the one you are referring to. It is tragicly bad, but it isnt a rangers blog.

Am I missing some gold?

by DJCahill on Apr 29, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He used to be a semi-regular here

http://lonerangers.wordpress.com/

Went by the catchy and deft sobriquet of “lonerangers.”

Here’s his LSB page:
http://www.sbnation.com/users/Lonerangers

He was an angry little feller.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Apr 29, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Think....

He probably got some very “interesting” responses to his Michael Young clutch-ness email. He has said in the past on several occasions that he is not a pure sabermetrician, and believes in things such as feel and clutch (as do I). Combine that with his self-proclaimed fandom of Michael and he is probably just doing it in response to all of the “you’re so dumb, if it can’t be quantified through stats then it must be either the Easter Bunny or a leprechaun” email responses. But yeah, I’ve noticed it too, though I don’t think what he is doing is in poor taste or “Hindman-esque”

by Topgun22 on Apr 29, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sheesh... Overreact much?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Meaning tlt29 or whoever this dude is, not The Newberg.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

tlt...

will now ask you to go have relations with yourself.

I hope you love to laugh
because that's what you'll be doing.

by ghostofErikThompson on Apr 29, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope so

A dirkatron/tlt message thread would be hella entertaining.

by cstorm15 on Apr 29, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

would be quite classic

by cmkelly29 on Apr 29, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who the fuck are you, dipshit?

I’ll rip off your head, shove it up your asshole then shit down your neck.

How’s that for overreacting?

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Meh. Unimpressive and lame.

But at least you made an effort.

It was pretty emo and pussy, but at least it was an effort.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you guys are ESPN boardie friends

we have to maintain that bond against the rest of “them”

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 29, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

is dirk from ESPN?

by cmkelly29 on Apr 29, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I seem to recall him

being there for some short period before we migrated. But that could be me just mis-remembering.

Dirk could probably elucidate.

by Requiem on Apr 29, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah, I found LSB pretty early on, but no ESPN board for me.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no kidding

I could have swore you were there

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 29, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From the looks of that sweet wifebeater in your photo...

…you’d probably been more appreciative of a racially-insensitive rant.

Douchebags like you need assfuckings.

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aw, it's always so cute when dumb-dumbs try to throw down in some sort of pathetic attempt at a flame war.

It inevitably ends up in a chorus of lame internet tough guy antics and cliches.

Yes, I’m a huge racist because I use a pic of myself in a wife beater and use it as my avatar photo.

Yes, I deserve to be forcibly butt-sexed because I thought this diary was a super lame overreaction to a non-issue.

You win, you ruggedly handsome insult scientist.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Glad you see it my way

Carry on, Cletus.

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Don't we all...

need to be forcibly butt-sexed a time or two?

And sorry to interject myself into yor guys’ little feud here, but I think you’re looking into things a little bit too much here tlt.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 29, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't know about everybody else

but count me out on the forcibly butt-sexed thing.

Sometimes you just need to speak up.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Apr 29, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

This is the first time

I’ve agreed with Josey.

by Oddibee on Apr 29, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 30, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's good for what ails you. I truly believe that.

Chris Rock’s Dad : Robitussin :: Dirkatron : Getting Forcibly Butt Sexed

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Looking too much into....

…dirkatron’s racism and yearning for anal intrusion?

Or Jamey’s Mike Young/stathead deal?

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

Sorta tongue in cheek. But I’ll relax the bit, if it’s coming across as snarky or smart-assey or whatever.

by Jamey Newberg on Apr 29, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't change for no one, man

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Apr 29, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

This

I thought it was great.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just trying to clarify

It could be tongue-in-cheek.

Or it could be serious.

I can’t tell. There has just been a bunch of references to His Clutchness (my own tongue-in-cheek) and some cracks at statheads that I’m not used to seeing all that often from you, Jamey.

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should probably just get over it.

by brettgardner on Apr 29, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's nothing to get over.

I’m curious as to what happened. Make of it what you will, sir.

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I'm going to start a fanpost about your response here.

I think we need some clarification.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do that

it will give us something to read during a rain delay.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 29, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd appreciate it

It would be the highest honor to be the subject of a fanpost started the esteemed dirkatron, Retard King.

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look...

I read your posts regularly (and have for a very long time). You’ve never seemed like a guy who was anti-Dirkatron or really anti-Retard Kings.

But lately, with this whole “Dirkatron calling me out on knee-jerking way too hard and starting a diary on a non-issue thing”, you’ve taken a very ‘smartass-ey’ stance with regard to me (including my esteem in this last comment fromt his afternoon).

Does you have any insight on what has set you off?

Your atitude on this issue is very Hindman-esque.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on Apr 29, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs

Heh.

by brettgardner on Apr 30, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No need to stop

Again, I don’t care either way. It shouldn’t matter anyhow, as I’m just one of your many, many readers. I’ve just never seen you take this type of stance in regard to numbers/statheads in the many years I’ve been reading.

by tlt29 on Apr 29, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's the thing

The Newberg is a fan. He says so himself. He’s not supposed to be unbiased. So take it for what it is, and don’t get worked up about it.

I don’t read Newberg daily, but when I lived in Missouri a few years ago he was my only source of Rangers info (the TX A&M listserve, I think it was). And in return for that, he can be as snarky as he wants whenever he wants, he has a pass in my book.

by Oddibee on Apr 29, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

+Juan

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 29, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

yep, right on

and i want it to stay that way…I can go to alot of other places to get unbiased reporting, but i like my Newberg in the same way that i like my TAG on the TV.

Chris (NJ): I am personally offended at how you ranked a prospect from my favorite team, even though I do not know said prospect, nor have I ever seen him play. In my opinion you only have your job because, like your employers, you have an unholy bias towards my favorite team’s rival. Also, you’re short.

Keith Law: You’re right. I am short.

by blalock84 on Apr 29, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Jamey

is the Godfather in my book. His reports will always be a stop down and I appreciate every one of them (as I’m sure most of us do, not on a soapbox here). I don’t want him to be biased.

By the way, I believe in “clutch” too. Numbers can tell you a lot of the story, but not all. I think that is the difference between statheads and those who actually suited up and got dirty. Yep, I said it.

"I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party. The...party. With the...with the pants. Party with pants?"

by BrickTamland on Apr 29, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Yes

Suiting up and getting dirty is something stat heads need to learn about. Then they’ll realize that playing in the mud is just as important as shaping their numbers. Then, they will understand.

I mean shit, it’s not played with a fuckin slide rule.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by Chase Irwin on Apr 30, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs