The ARod drama continues...
by cmkelly29 on Apr 30, 2009 7:45 AM CDT
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Details starting to emerge about the Selena Roberts book.
New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez could return from a hip injury in as few as 10 days.
But he is already back in the headlines.
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Rodriguez
More details from Sports Illustrated writer Selena Roberts' book "A-Rod" were released Wednesday by the New York Daily News. The book alleges Rodriguez did not stop using steroids when he came to the Yankees and he might have been using as far back as high school, the Daily News reports.
Roberts broke the story that A-Rod failed a steroid test in 2003. Yankees teammates, Roberts writes, nicknamed Rodriguez "B---h T--s" in 2005 because he put on 15 pounds in the offseason which included round pectorals, a condition called gynecomastia that can be caused by anabolic steroids.
Roberts' book, which will be released May 12, also details Rodriguez's relationship with Dominican trainer Angel Presinal, who is banned from major league clubhouses.
Jose Canseco, a former teammate of Rodriguez, said in the book he believes Rodriguez has been using steroids since high school.
"Was he on steroids in high school?" Canseco said in the book, the Daily News reported. "I think probably so. I worked out with him when he was 18. He could lift almost as much as I could."
Rodriguez put on 25 pounds of muscle between his sophomore and junior years. Former high school teammates told Roberts that A-Rod was using steroids back then and his coach knew it -- an allegation the coach, Rich Hoffman, denied.
Other things alleged in Roberts' book, according to the Daily News:
• A-Rod "pitch tipped" when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod expected players he helped would reciprocate when he was having an off night and needed to get his batting average up.
• A-Rod's off-the-field antics including his poker habit; his divorce from his wife, Cynthia; his relationship with Madonna and his other affairs are detailed.
• A-Rod was hated at Hooters, where he tipped the minimum 15 percent.
Rodriguez hit in a simulated game for the second consecutive day on Wednesday, facing minor leaguer pitchers Christian Garcia and Kai Liu, a left-hander from China the Yankees signed two years ago.
Rodriguez slid five times on a sliding mat for the second time, ran the bases and took 112 swings in regular batting practice.
The Yankees said Rodriguez will play in an extended spring training intrasquad game Thursday in Tampa, Fla.
Dr. Marc Philippon watched the three-time AL MVP's on-field workout Wednesday at the Yankees minor league complex and said Rodriguez could return to the majors ahead of his May 15 target date.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4114292
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yawn
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Apr 30, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on Apr 30, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This kind of sucks
• A-Rod “pitch tipped” when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod expected players he helped would reciprocate when he was having an off night and needed to get his batting average up.
by cmkelly29 on Apr 30, 2009 8:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
if true, that is terrible.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Apr 30, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if true
he should be suspended for a year, at least. He has a gambling issue; what’s to say he put money on the over/under and was trying to manipulate the score?
Of course, this will never be proven b/c no one is going to come forward on the record about getting help from him like that.
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by WhipSmart on Apr 30, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitch tipping
If he really did that, I expect to see a few pitches aimed at his earhole next time he faces the Rangers.
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by RCCook on Apr 30, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
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by Rodney on Apr 30, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
surely not
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that is true, then
he’s not the only one, thus, selena roberts should have researched that side…but, obviously she has a hard-on for the Rod.
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by Longhorn on Apr 30, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling shenanigans on this one super hard.
No one is this much of a horribly insecure douche.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh
I can think of half a dozen that post here, and I’ll bet there are a few players that are that insecure.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 30, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on Apr 30, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes Mark Beuhrle's 'sequence of lights' theory.
by tyd3311 on Apr 30, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
funny
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His teammates called him "B---h T--s"
What is this? Bitch Tits?
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 30, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a condition caused by the overuse of steroids..
where the chest gets less masculine and more feminine.
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
bitch tits
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey hey now!
HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSON.
by cmkelly29 on Apr 30, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish that were my nickname..
Seriously, beyond all the coin this guy has, he must really have a miserable existence. Does he have any friends in the game? I haven’t read any of the stories or books.
Just seems like he has a crappy life, and yeah, I know he’s loaded, not what I mean.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Apr 30, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Arod have any friends?
The only player that I’ve ever heard speak of Bitch Tits as a friend is none other than our own Franchise Face.
When Franchise Face was told he was moving positions, Bitch Tits is one of the players he called on to ask for advice in how to handle it.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 30, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that you said that, I remember him being boys with Bitch Tits.
Everytime I hear that I chuckle, what a terrible nickname to have.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Apr 30, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, reportedly the only baseball peeps Bitch Tits invited to his wedding were Mikey and Hicks
I believe Hicks was in his wedding.
That may have changed since 03 or whenever he got married, but if your co-workers are hanging sobriquets like “Bitch Tits” on ya behind your back, it prolly isn’t indicative of your over-brimming popularity.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Apr 30, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exhibit A:
because he hasn't even reached his peak yet, up until this point, he just did it on talent. - Ron Washington on Josh Hamilton
by Lonerangers on Apr 30, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep that's them..
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like texeira
in the face. i’ve never seen his tits.
by chase182 on Apr 30, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that he was a dead ringer for Kinsler, if he had a John Elway grill transplant...
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on May 1, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're only tipping 15 percent at Hooters..
you are officially CHEAP.
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 8:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i try to give them more than just the tip...
Sorry, i had to.
by chase182 on Apr 30, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh someone had to lol
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only time i've been to hooter's
i did not tip.
by Mike E on Apr 30, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive never been
never plan to…it would be one thing if it was great food, but…its just not.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hooters
The food definitely sucks. If you want to combine girls in skimpy outfits and decent/good food, go to Twin Peaks or Bone Daddy’s.
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by RCCook on Apr 30, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or just pack a lunch and go to a strip club.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strip clubs
sometimes have lunch buffets, which I always thought was the diciest of propositions.
Bad Clams anyone?
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by DJCahill on Apr 30, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some are actually pretty good
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Apr 30, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah.
One place I know of has 1/2 pound burgers, all the trimmings, dogs, and about 15 sides. Go in for a noon kickoff, pig out, have a beer or two, and get home for the 2nd half :) $4, plus tip…
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by Rodney on Apr 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A half-pound burger for $4?
Damn… I’ve been in California too long.
by Inkara1 on Apr 30, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the food is free.
$4=2 beers :) On Sundays, anyways.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Apr 30, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you thought hair in your food was bad at a normal resturant….
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by red3biggs on Apr 30, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah..I have no plans of going back
I go to food places to eat..and the food isn’t that good.
by Mike E on Apr 30, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
If I’m in the mood for food, I’ll go to a good restaurant.
If I’m in the mood to look at some pretties, I’ll go to a strip club.
If I’m in the mood for both I’ll go get food, then leave the food place and go the freaking strip club.
Hooters is a bad restaurant and a shitty, clothing-on strip club combined into one.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one time I went to Hooters, the pulled pork sandwich I had was pretty good
The waitress was maybe a B-cup though.
I don’t know if it’s a Hooters original idea but I noticed that (at least at the one I went to) they put ice in a ziploc bag and put that in the beer so that the beer stays cold but doesn’t get watered down by melted ice. Later, when I worked at a pizza place, I told my boss about that.
by Inkara1 on Apr 30, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's also a good way to underpour a pitcher...
gotta leave room for the baggie.
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by bking on Apr 30, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
I’ve also seen pitchers that have a cylinder in them that you can fill with ice from the bottom. It does the same thing.
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by Dirk Diggler on Apr 30, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I disagree, but
if you’ve never been, how do you know the food is not great?
by Anonymous New Guy on Apr 30, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my brother used to go quite often
and he actually stopped because he got sick of shitty food…which is saying a lot lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, KOK, if you've never been
how do you know it’s not great food? :)
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 30, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? why not?
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tip stiffers = fucking scumbags
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Apr 30, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 stiffing waiters is NOT cool..
Even if the service is bad I tip 15%.
Average to good service gets 20 %.
Typically the waiter is nice and I like them so 25 to 30 % but that’s just me I used to wait tables.
But not tipping is NOT COOL!!!
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh...
I thought LAMF enjoyed stiffing waiters.
by Anonymous New Guy on Apr 30, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
most likely not sir, unless they happen to look like Ryan Phillipe
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen, brother.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just ridiculousness.
You’re really gonna put a quote in there about how ARod has used Roids since high school because Jose Canseco said, “Yah, I think probably so”?
Canseco’s an idiot who’d say anything to get attention. Not that I know it’s a lie, but that’s not exactly proof in any sense of the word. You may as well print that he’s the offspring of a horrible inhuman lizard monster who effed his Mom super hard one time in the back of a Toyota Camry cause Dirkatron said ARod always looked like he had lizard lips. “Was his father some sort of horrible lizard creature with a taste for human flesh? I think probably so.” -’Tron
Oh and this:
“Rodriguez put on 25 pounds of muscle between his sophomore and junior years.”
I did this, too, except for me it was between my junior and senior seasons of football. It’s called puberty + growth spurt + finding the fucking weight room. So I guess when Selena Robert does her next book “The Truth Behind the ’Tron” she can go ahead and use that as proof I ’roided too.
Oh, and finally:
• A-Rod “pitch tipped” when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod expected players he helped would reciprocate when he was having an off night and needed to get his batting average up.
No fucking way this happened. No. Fucking. Way.
I’d pretty much need to hear it direct from a dozen or so of reputable former players or get a confession straight from ARod before I believe this.
I find this ridiculous.
Maybe it’s true, but there’s no way I’m believing it without three and half butt loads of proof.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't there a brouhaha
between Showalter and A-Rod that had something to do with A-Rod calling pitches from shortstop? I seem to remember something about that, but haven’t found anything in 10 seconds of Googling.
by Oddibee on Apr 30, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the Son of Sam Horn archive
Dec 2003:
What is the rift between A-Rod and Showalter all about?
I’ve got a Texan friend at work who’s a Rangers fan. He says that one reason why Buck is less than thrilled with A-Rod is the fact that, supposedly, A-Rod has a penchant for calling pitches from shortstop during the game! I don’t know whether this is common with elite infielders (SS or 2B), but I can see Showalter going Captain Queeg over this.
I thought I remembered something like that. That gives a little credence to the report, I think.
by Oddibee on Apr 30, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calling pitches and tipping pitches are two entirely different things.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
But if Showalter caught him showing signs, would A-Rod say “I was tipping pitches” or “yeah, uh, I thought maybe we should throw a fastball there, was telling the catcher that, uh, yeah, that’s the ticket…”?
by Oddibee on Apr 30, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty ridiculous leap.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not particularly
its out there but logical.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 30, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? No it's not at all.
Thinking you should be able to call the game from SS is one thing.
Blatantly giving the other team signs is a whole ’nother thing entirely.
One is egomania.
The other is treacherous douchebaggery of the highest order.
It’s a fucking ridiculous leap.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
treacherous douchebaggery of the highest order
I wouldn’t put that past Bitch Tits.
In a season that the team clearly wasn’t going anywhere, and Bitch Tits clearly wasn’t happy with the 24 kid teammates of his, I could easily imagine him giving signs to opposing players. The two motivations would be that he could get someone to like him and that the favor might be returned and his stats would be helped.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 30, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conspiracy theory:
Boras clients help each other out. $$$$$$$$$$$
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by scoop16 on Apr 30, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell..
noone freakin said they know he did or that this idea proves its true. he just said if he was in fact tipping pitches that to an outsider it could be interpreted as calling the game. theres some logic there, thats all i said, it doesnt mean I think he was tipping.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Apr 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a ridiculous leap.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did this, too, except for me it was between my junior and senior seasons of football. It’s called puberty + growth spurt + finding the fucking weight room. So I guess when Selena Robert does her next book "The Truth Behind the ’Tron" she can go ahead and use that as proof I ’roided too.
funny as hell
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Apr 30, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the truth
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on Apr 30, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your new nic
paul pierce got nothing on u…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on Apr 30, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there is any question
that D A Tron roids up. I’ve seen the roid rage on the board many, many times.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
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by DJCahill on Apr 30, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a fact that the only reason people use 'roids is if their heroes and idols do it first.
And have you ever seen a robot do steroids?
Didn’t think so.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canseco
Haven’t nearly all the outrageous claims that Canseco made proven to be true?
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 30, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
luck
all he said was steroids where prevalent in baseball.
well, duh. players, managers, GMs knew about it, he was the only one who came out and said it because he couldn’t get a job…
and he named names, but it’s not hard to name them when mostly everyone is doing it…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on Apr 30, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point
Most people thought Canseco was a scandalous liar when his book was published, and he still seems to carry a stigma of being untrustworthy. And maybe he is, but the point is that nearly all of the claims that seemed were so outlandish have proven to be true. So when Canseco says something, maybe our reaction shouldn’t be so dismissive. The record seems to indicate that he knows what he is talking about.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 30, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur with this.
Heck, I still remember listening to his bombshell on Big Dick Hunter’s show, at midnight or somesuch in ’05 (?). That was before his book ever came out.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Apr 30, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has still been right...
about most of it though. Until he comes out and makes an outrageous claim that is proved false it’s hard to just laugh him off. The guy will say or do anything for $ and to be in the spotlight, but he does have some credibility on the issue now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Apr 30, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maaaaaybe.
I know a lot of the people he accused ending up being named by other people and the Mitchel report and shit like that, but iirc he made some rather dubious and/or outrageous claims as well. (Not to mention an utterly delusional persecution complex.) It’s been a long time since I read the book though, so perhaps I’m misremembering. What I remember most is just the general feeling that the guy was a slimebag out to make some money and was out to finger everyone he possibly could to sell his book.
But in this particular case he has zero proof.
I mean, read that quote:
“Was he on steroids in high school?” Canseco said in the book, the Daily News reported. “I think probably so. I worked out with him when he was 18. He could lift almost as much as I could.”
Regardless of whether his past allegations turned out to be true, this isn’t even an allegation, it’s just a stupid ass supposition based on dumb logic (he could lift a lot, must’ve been on ’roids).
It’s the kind of second hand guy-talking-out-of-his-ass that shouldn’t be printed.
This whole book thing reads to me like one big long attack piece.
Which is fine, I suppose, but with quotes like this I think it needs to be taken be taken with a grain of salt.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't the author of this book the person that broke the story that Bitch Tits failed a test?
It was my understanding that allegations of Bitch Tits being on steroids came from high school teammates of his, and Canseco is just throwing his 2 cents in, saying basically, “yeah I knew him then and it’s possible”. Maybe I’m not understanding the whole thing correctly.
But another thing to consider is that the author of this book is the lady that broke the original Bitch Tits story, ya know, the allegations that he admitted to. So maybe the book is one long attack piece, but so far the author seems to have credibility. Nothing she has claimed has been disproven.
Another thing is that I wanted to say Bitch Tits one more time.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on Apr 30, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm riding shotgun on your Bitch Tits bandwagon
Drive on, old bean, drive on…
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Apr 30, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, the high school teammate thing has some credence I suppose.
I was just commenting on the Canseco part, which seems to be offered as evidence of an accusation, but which is actually just conjecture and shouldn’t have been printed in that context, imo. It’s irresponsible.
Overall books like this come off looking like smear jobs more than anything, imo.
I’m naturally skeptical of everything I read in situations like this.
But that’s just me.
I think most people fucking lie, especially when there’s money and/or attention on the line.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 30, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I own a Lear jet.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Apr 30, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I own a King Lear jet.
but I’m afraid it will crash after take off.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 30, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm skeptical of the pitch tipping thing
I just think that would be impossible to somehow show to opposing players but hide from your teammates.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Apr 30, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
And imagine what would happen if one of your teammates noticed. No way that story would’ve have blown up.
by nivarsity on Apr 30, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing?
Like you think the teammate would go to the media with it? Riighhht.
Arod damage control from poor little butthurt LSB..
by Sharky on Apr 30, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I do.
His teammates apparently hated him, the local media villified him, and very little about ARod doesn’t make headlines.
by nivarsity on Apr 30, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahahaha, let the damaga control begin
LSB owned.
AJM owned.
Complain about Micheal Young and Pudge Rodriguez some more guys, but you loved Arod and Milton Bradley’s attitudes, didn’t you. They were great, weren’t they? But that Juan Gonzalez, he was clearly a malcontent.
by Sharky on Apr 30, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're a few years behind, chump.
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by Chase Irwin on Apr 30, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sharky
Don’t you have a teabagging rally or militia meeting you should be at right now?
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by RCCook on Apr 30, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his white sheet is at the dry cleaners...
Sorry Kins I'm leaving you for another man, his name is Derek.
by BigGuns on Apr 30, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose Canseco played with ARod?
I’m not going to go back into the baseball reference annals, but when did that happen????
by JBImaknee on Apr 30, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I violated my statement about not going to baseball reference
because this seemed like a golden opportunity to use their Oracle feature.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/oracle/link.cgi?n1=Alex+Rodriguez&n2=Jose+Canseco
They never played together, as I was certain of before. But Rob Ducey was the example they gave me of a mutual teammate. Remember him?
Jose Canseco, a former teammate of Rodriguez, said in the book he believes Rodriguez has been using steroids since high school.
Bold = wrong
by JBImaknee on Apr 30, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny enough, no
ARod has only missed one All Star Game – 1999 – which was the only time since 1992 that Canseco attended.
Though the thought of ARod having Canseco help him inject in the All Star clubhouse is a highly amusing one.
by JBImaknee on Apr 30, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to get off subject for a bit
Twin Peakes has the worst food of any restaurant I have ever been to. I would much rather eat at Hooters any day. Their buffalo chicken sandwich is pretty damn good.
Of course, Bone Daddys trumps both of those places easily.
/fat man rant
by kumizi on Apr 30, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If pitch tipping really occurs
between players, that is, in my opinion, a bigger scandal than steroids.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
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by DJCahill on May 1, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know if it's bigger
we are used to the steroids discussion now, but the ‘pitch-tipping’ would be a really big deal, nonetheless.
so, was AROD tipping pitches around the same time that the white sox accused us of stealing signs and tipping? Wasn’t that Buerhle, the starter tonight, who accused us of that, or was it Guillen. I forget the exact details
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by NothinG on May 1, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was a changeup, he would twist his glove hand. To indicate a slider, he would sweep the dirt in front of him and he would bend in the direction of where the pitch was going to be, inside or outside."
“The thing Alex would do, and this is the critical difference between signaling your infield as quarterback and giving away the pitch to the hitter, is when you flash the sign,” she said. “This was done to give the batter plenty of time to see it and figure what to do about it. What would usually happen would be for Alex to do something as the pitcher is in the windup; that way the batter is focused on the pitcher. These signs Alex would flash came before the windup and that made it even more noticeable.”
by phina on May 1, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What would usually happen would be for Alex to do something as the pitcher is in the windup; that way the batter is focused on the pitcher.
This makes no sense to me. Anyone?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on May 2, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
If Bitch Tits was signaling to his infield teammates, he would give them the sign as the pitcher was in the windup. If he was signaling to the batter he’d do it noticably earlier.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on May 2, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah got it.
Maybe it could have been worded better, or less vaguely.
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by Chase Irwin on May 2, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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