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Some linkaliciousness, about 40 hours before First Pitch...

Jeff Sullivan takes a look at the Rangers, and although I disagree with his critique of the defense -- he has Michael Young and Chris Davis in the negative column, which would be accurate if they were at SS and 3B, but is probably not true for their current positions -- I think he has a reasonable overall take.  And you have to like this:

Status: Developing nuclear stockpile

* * *

Anyway, here's what matters:

(A) Texas, right now, is likely the worst team in the division by a few games
(B) they're going to give up a lot of runs
(C) there's enough upside in the batting order to potentially keep the team afloat longer than you'd think
(D) the Rangers are about to get scary

Texas probably has the best farm system in baseball, and we're going to see those players start to arrive in 2009. So while the team is bad with a shot at mediocre right now, you should enjoy their struggles while you can, because they aren't going to last that much longer.

And don't use this as an excuse to go over there and be insulting and start a flame-war.  Seriously.  Making the LSB community look bad on other boards is a bad thing.

Evan Grant predicts the Rangers' performance on a month-by-month basis, ending up with an 84-78 record and a 2nd place finish in the West.

Grant also writes that, despite past policy being that contract negotiations end if they aren't done by Opening Day, that policy may not end up applying to Josh Hamilton.  It sounds like there are things quietly going on behind the scenes on that front.

Dave Cameron talks about the service time manipulation that is going on with Matt Weiters and David Price, and that has been discussed here ad nauseum vis-a-vis Elvis Andrus.

RealGMBaseball looks at the A.L. West, and has the Rangers finishing 2nd.  Ditto Bruce Jenkins.

Jason Hammel, the D-Rays out of options pitcher who has been discussed as a possible Ranger trade target, is apparently close to going to Colorado.  Ringolsby says that a hold-up is that the Rockies don't want to add Hammel until after Wednesday's game, which Franklin Morales will start, and after which will be optioned to AAA, while the Rays have to do something with him before Opening Day.  But the Rays can simply designate Hammel for assignment tomorrow, then trade him to the Rockies on Thursday, so I don't see that that should really be a problem.

Carlos Zambrano wins this week's tone-deafness award by saying that Chicago should get rid of Wrigley Field and build the Cubs a nice new stadium.

Jon Heyman has 30 breakout candidates for 2009.  None of them are Rangers.

Peter Gammons has 15 players who talent evaluators think are on the verge of a breakout season, and Chris Davis makes the list.  Derek Holland also places third on the list of the best young arms seen this spring.

Are you a college student who loves baseball and wants to be an intern doing something baseball-related?  Here's your chance.

This is devotion.

 

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I guess they don't remember last season.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 4, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

niiiiiiiice

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 4, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Just something small. From a fans point of view that is all. Gives me something to do. Thanks for finding it.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 4, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder

what it would take to get hammel?

also, i hope texas puts in a claim on dan giese. released by yanks today. he had good numbers last year. not sure why he was cut exactly. gotta be better than what we have in the pen right now.

by mo on Apr 4, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

who are they parting with?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 4, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some guy named Aneury Rodriguez.

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 4, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sickels on him:
8) Aneury Rodriguez, RHP, Grade C+: What am I missing here? Why don’t other people like him? He’s young, has a live arm, and has pitched well.

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 4, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

that name sounds super familiar

was he a hotshot LA signee a couple of yeras a go?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Apr 4, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a huge one

He’s been a relatively prominent lower level pitching spect in their system since 2005 (when he was only 17), so it seems like he’s been around forever even though he’s still just a kid.

And Poveda is a very apt comparison, imo.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 4, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Giese

He turns 32 in May, and has unimpressive K rates. I don’t see the point.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 4, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kennil Gomez

seems the most apt comparison to me.

by Goyogringo on Apr 5, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clark Murphy interview with Jason Cole (free):

link

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 4, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

What the hell?

I thought the Rangers were going to try him in the OF this season.

by LiamP on Apr 4, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

A flame war?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Apr 4, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I loved Slurvey's reaction...

in the first comment in that thread at LOL:

Lord have mercy on our soul should the Rangers manage to build a good pitching staff.

Damn straight. Good news M’s fans, it won’t happen this year. Bad news, next year it’s on like Donkey Kong.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 4, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish there was a better crop of SP's available in FA next year, cause we're gonna be primed to add a stud to front the rotation.

Clearing Millwood and/or Padilla (and I have to think we won’t keep both), along with Blalock should give us some dollars to spend.

Harden, Lackey, Wife-Puncher Myers, and then some question guys like maybe Brad Penny and Duchschererrrersrer.

Not a real great group, especially if Lackey goes down longer than thought.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 4, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Between peavy and Halladay

we’ll see someone on the trade market this winter

by FirebatM3 on Apr 4, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Between his elbow and his shoulder

we’ll see Peavy’s arm snap off at one of it’s two major joints this season.

That guy’s arm scares the urine right out of my man-penis.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 4, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

it’s no more likely to fall off than halladay or lackey or anyone else.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 4, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hate his mechanics and everything I read says people around baseball don't think he'll last too long throwing like that.

But, who knows?

Plenty of guys get the “going to implode any moment” label and thrive for a long, long time.

He in particular just scares me.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 4, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

given that his usage hasn’t been awful, he’s a better bet to stay healthy. I think usage has a lot more to do with long term health than most mechanical oddities.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 4, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I disagree.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't Peavy have a full no-trade in '10?

Even if we do well this year, I can’t believe he’d waive it to come here.

by LiamP on Apr 5, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Were.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And this is

why I wanted to sign Sabathia.

Sure we likely wouldn’t be able to compete in ‘09 (though the odds are looking better and better), but which other ace quality pitcher without almost zero question marks comes about in his year 28 season who’s just available for money and a second round pick?

The lack of good quality pitching is a strong reason why I was interested in Sabathia and Sheets.

After all, it’s hard to replace a complete starting pitching staff in one season….

R

by Requiem on Apr 6, 2009 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and maybe Bedard, too.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 4, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it's a given that

Sheets will already be in the fold by then, right? heh

by shroomer on Apr 4, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, forgot about him.

You know, maybe it won’t be so bad…

Harden/Lackey/Bedard
Sheets
Millwood or Padzilla
McCarthy
Der-Hol

with Feliz and Harrison as long men/5th starter candidates.

Okay, I’m excited.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 4, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see it this way...

Sheets
Millwood or Padilla
McCarthy or Harrison or maybe even Hurley?
Holland
Feliz

I don’t think the Rangers will sign any of those big name FA pitchers next year. If Millwood hits his innings goal and is back next year it probably means he had a decent year. I don’t think Padilla’s option will be picked up if Millwood is here either, unless he pitches out of his mind this year. If Millwood isn’t back then I think there is a pretty good chance that Padilla is. Unless he’s horrible this year or gets hurt.

And I want BOTH Holland and Feliz in the rotation to start the year. Only exception would be an injury to either of them, and if that happens I will go play human Frogger on the freeway.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 4, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Likely several games worse the Mariners

Sure buddy. It could happen, but I’d love to see the in depth reasoning behind it.
With Morrow in the pen they are one predictable Bedard injury away from being pretty bad. Their OF defense is great and all but its not going to work miracles.

The rest of the article is pretty good.

I hate to say it on Hamilton, but I’d probably let him play this year out to confirm his health before throwing piles of money at him. There will still be incentive for him to sign a longer term deal in the offseason if all goes well. Granted it could up the price if he repeats.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on Apr 4, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Jeff offers great insight

but if there’s one thing he’s not, especially when it comes to the Mariners and the AL West, it’s objective.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 4, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 4, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you then crawl under the covers and whisper...

dirty projections talk in her ear?

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Apr 5, 2009 5:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Niiiiice.

Rec!

"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08

by Lisa W on Apr 5, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Explain to what the upside is of throwing piles of money at Hamilton

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Apr 5, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't need to have one...

If he relapses, MLB takes care of that for you. IIRC, he’s on his last strike in the drug program already.

by bking on Apr 5, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

What?

Seattle are you kidding me? Last?

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on Apr 4, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Why would anyone flame what Sullivan wrote?

Seems reasonable to me.

That’s about as good of a team breakdown of us as I’ve seen by a non-Rangers contributor.

I mean, of course we view our team through rosier glasses, but, so what?

Most of what he said was spot on.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 4, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

mhhhhm

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Apr 4, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Creepy.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Apr 4, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Apr 5, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heyman

In the Heyman article that Adam links he lists Chan Ho as a break-out candidate. I have a couple questions: (1) Is the Ho still a Boras client? (2) Should any of us ever read anything Heyman writes again after this?

"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo

by kentbenfer on Apr 4, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes and no

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 4, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Bradley and Vazquez leave this lineup and we go from scoring 900 runs to maybe scoring 800. I just don’t get all the negativity about this team’s lineup going into next season.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 4, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, if Cruz turns out just to have been a tease, that'll be what hurts us.

That siad, I’m pretty confident in Nellie Cruz: reloaded. I think he’s gonna be a beast SLG-wise this year.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Apr 4, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Siegler with lots of new scoreboard stuff

link

"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 4, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I have Rex Hudler talking about the Rangers

on MLB Network. I want that man to die of cancer.

by FirebatM3 on Apr 4, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

To slow

He’ll still be able to talk. We just need to have somebody stop by his house and break his jaw every couple months during baseball season.

She was a grand old lady...

by LSJ on Apr 4, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's in demand as a public speaker, you know.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't care

The Hudog sucks. I can’t stand to listen to him.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 5, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dick cancer, preferably

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Apr 5, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

quote
And don’t use this as an excuse to go over there and be insulting and start a flame-war. Seriously. Making the LSB community look bad on other boards is a bad thing.

i hope this isn’t referring to the whole BTB preseason picks thing.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 4, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

well for the most part

That took place here. And if you come to a Rangers board and talk about how they are going to finish behind the Mariners and how the A’s are winning the division and maybe even going to the WS, well, you should expect people to disagree with you.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 5, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

We've behaved poorly

in that thread and several times over at minorleagueball.com this winter.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 5, 2009 6:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow
It’s an interesting lineup. At first glance, I liked it. At second glance, I was more bearish. Now I like it again, if only because Hamilton, Cruz, and Davis have the potential to form an absolutely lethal core. Last year, San Francisco hit 94 home runs as a team. These three have a pretty good shot of doing that on their own, with an outside chance at catching Minnesota’s 111.

I knew San Frans offense was bad, but I didn’t know it was that bad…

Is it April 6 Yet?

by SCDP on Apr 4, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Its hilariously bad

and our offense can be ridiculously good.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 5, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Porcello!

is making the Tigers one year after HIGH SCHOOL?

Are the Tigers nuts? How can a player jump from A-ball at 19?

by 3Bagger on Apr 4, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

They did it before with Bonderman

Dumbroski – desperation does funny things

by FirebatM3 on Apr 5, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Porcello

Amazing. Why take your $7 million dollar investment and risk it all? Porcello’s single-A year was not that amazing either. I just don’t get it.

by 3Bagger on Apr 5, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh Bonderman

What a wonderful success story that has turned out for the Tigers

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Apr 5, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's not forget our own success story...

…David Clyde. What a shame that was. He was brought up just to sell tickets.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 5, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

boomer

is the email in your profile the best one to get a hold of you? I have a non-realty question….

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 5, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Shoot me an email.

Keith Law on Greg Golson, "He's similiar to Cameron and Hunter in that all three are black."
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on Apr 5, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

sent

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Apr 5, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

he has certainly held his own this spring.

so long as they are cautious with his arm and don’t let him exceed 180 innings on the year, I don’t see any harm in it.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on Apr 5, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Porcello

I think he’s great. But wow. This seems like a rush job.

2 things I see…

1. If Porcello is good enough for the MLB now, then why was he in A ball all of last year?
2. He’s about as old a Nolan Ryan when he started in the MLB, barely 20, so, if he’s the horse some say he is, we’ll see. Nolan pitched forever.

by 3Bagger on Apr 5, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with everything cameron says about weiters and price

I think the Rangers are smart not to be doing this with Andrus. blatnatnly taking advantage of the system isn’t a good thing.

by JBImaknee on Apr 5, 2009 1:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Really? It would've been blatantly taking advantage of the system to not jump the kid from AA on opening day?

I mean, I agree it would look really bad if we went ahead and did it now after all that’s been said, but it’s not like he came up at the end of last year and dominated like Price and now we’re sending him back down. The kid was good in AA, but he didn’t set it on fire like Wieters did. And Andrus has never even seen AAA.

It would’ve been very, very easy to set this thing up so that he would start in AAA and come up “when ready” in a few months.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did they screw up by handing the job to him early?

Maybe. But once that cat was out of the bag, sending him to AAA to simply put off his FA years is not right. Maybe Young forced their hand on this by not going to 3b quietly.

Ideally Andrus should be in AAA right now. I agree with that. But the argument for sending him there has to be something other than service time.

by JBImaknee on Apr 5, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The public argument, you mean, right? That I agree with. You can't just come out and say it or your players will turn on you.

But in reality that’s a perfectly awesome reason to do it. Managing the service clocks of their best young players is a horribly important issue to a club’s long term outlook… and you and I are in this for thelong haul so those are things we should very much care about.

And they could’ve headed this all off with a little careful wording at the time of Facegate by simply hedging their words regarding Andrus a bit. They could’ve announced that they thought Andrus would be ready really, really soon… maybe as soon as opening day, but certainly by June or July and they wanted to facilitate that move by switching Face now so he wouldn’t have to move during the season.

Boom, problem solved.

I’m a big JD guy, but he screwed the pooch pretty hard (and sans condom) on this one.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ethical? Maybe.

Smart? Not sure I see how it makes them smart. Nor do I see how it’s not a good thing.

by philkid3 on Apr 5, 2009 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you think...

that their treatment of Andrus might affect how future draftees, and free agents probably, view negotiations with the team?

"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."

by benmor78 on Apr 5, 2009 5:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

You really think if we'd started a kid who'd never played above AA (and wasn't perfect there, either) at AAA for the first month or two... that we would really get a wretched rep in baseball?

Bullshit.

This isn’t a Wieters or Price type situation.

No one in baseball would’ve batted an eyelash if we’d started Andrus in AAA.

We played this thing wrong from the get go.

And FA’s? That’s ridiculous. The Rays are the most notorious team in baseball for doing this. They baltantly did it with Longoria, now they’re doing it with Price, and they did it with Delmon Young and BJ Upton* and Delmon Young to the point where both came out and said there’s no way they’d ever sign with the club long term… So go ask Pat Burrell how much that factored into his decision to sign there. With FA’s money talks and the only thing that comes even a little bit close to money is the old “chance to win”. I imagine the fact that they Longoria their young players means absolutely zero to them.

* FWIW, BJ Upton came out and said this off season he’d definitely consider a long term deal with Tampa. Cause, you know, money and winning heals all wounds.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Andrus should be in AAA, IMO.

There’s no reason to start his service time AND burn a space on the 40 which we could use for someone else.

Heck, we even have a good defensive replacement in Vizquel available.

But then, I’m not as hyped up about Andrus as some people are.

R

by Requiem on Apr 6, 2009 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing

it’s very, very, very easy to argue that he could use some more time in the minors. Yes, sending him down for 2-3 weeks would be a bit hard to explain. But if he goes down and hits .240 in AAA do you really want to pull him up right away? And if he hits .300 for 5-6 weeks, it’s very easy to say, ‘considering his development pattern, we expected him to need a month or two at each new level to acclimate, but he seems to have acclimated quickly this time’ and call him up.

This is not a guy who dominated AAA or even AA last year and has nothing left to learn in the minors. He absolutely was rushed. The hope is that he is the caliber of guy who can handle being rushed, but he was rushed.

by Brett Perryman on Apr 5, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so proud

My new tat made the linkalicious. Awesome. :)

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I want to be the next Annie Savoy.

by The Best Micah on Apr 5, 2009 1:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Jake Peavy

Supposing the Rangers get off to a hot start and Peavy changes his mind and wants to come here, what would it take? Could we pull that deal off w/out moving Holland or Feliz?

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on Apr 5, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I think we should be able to pull that deal off

Based on what other teams were offering, Texas should be able to avoid giving up Holland and Feliz and still have the best package out there. I just have a feeling that the Padres will insist on one of them in a deal and won’t accept a deal that doesn’t include them in it.

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by Gdawg on Apr 5, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holland/Feliz/Smoak

Yeah, it’s hard to believe that we could get a real impact player without trading one of those, or including Davis. And if that is the cost, then I’d probably just pass.

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by tricer on Apr 5, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd pass

because we still have a shot at Sheets when he becomes healthy. He wouldn’t cost a draft pick anymore (feel bad for brewers), and he wouldn’t cost us any prospects. Affordable ace for 1 and 1/2 years with an option. That would be ideal.

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by NothinG on Apr 5, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the wild card...

…is Nelson Cruz…

If he is putting up a 900 OPS in July, then he could be a centerpiece of a deal for a frontline pitcher, particularly if the Rangers are ready to bring up Borbon.

by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

True...

but if that is happening I don’t think I would want the Rangers to deal the only decent RH option for the middle of that lineup. If Cruz is hitting that well he should be hitting cleanup. The Rangers deal him and you will see Jones or Byrd hitting in the middle of the order the rest of the year and neither of those guys will be back next year. Which means the Rangers would be relying on Kinsler and Smoak as their RH hitters with some power in 2010.

I suppose if Borbon hits leadoff (which I doubt would happen, at least as a rookie) you could move Ian into the middle of the order, but I think he would be a perfect 2 hole guy between Borbon and Hamilton. That means the Rangers will have to convince MY of another move, or hit Ian 3rd and drop Hamilton to cleanup. I’m sure most people don’t put a whole lot of stock into the LH/RH hitting issue with the lineup. Perhaps it’s just me.

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by slc ranger on Apr 5, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Cruz can net us

a frontline starter…you do it in a heartbeat, especially since we see Hamilton moving to RF and Borbon being called up. I think we have overreacted about a RH power hitter all offseason. We have plenty of pop in this lineup, and like you said Smoak could be that guy next year. I, also, think MaxRam is a great hitter with pop. We have alot of righties on this team. It isn’t as left heavy as people make it out to be.

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by NothinG on Apr 5, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn...

for some reason I forgot about MaxRam. Definitely another RH bat that should be in the middle of the lineup next year.

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by slc ranger on Apr 5, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, of course we could. Our system is ridiculous and as long as we were willing to take all his contract we could definitely get that done sans Der-Hol and Feliz.

We’d still have trade a buttload for him, though.

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by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Along those lines

That’s the sort of thing that is so exciting about this tsunami of guys coming behind those two. For one, it’s very possible that within months we would have the ammo to obtain someone elite like Peavy or Halladay just by using those guys on the pitching side of the package. In a much less exciting but even more important regard, knowing in our heads that we will lose one of every three top guys to injury (and knowing Rangers history, more than that), it is absolutely vital to have high numbers of special arms to be able to build a rotation from within.

When people roll their eyes and wonder why such an obsession around here over guys like Main, Perez and Font, that’s why. (knock on wood) When we lose someone to injury who we can’t even fathom the thought of losing right now, if this team is going to be a winner, there needs to be another one to step in his place and proceed (knock on wood).

by Brett Perryman on Apr 5, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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