Cubs release Chad Gaudin
The Chicago Cubs have released Chad Gaudin, who came over to Chicago in the Rich Harden trade last year.
He's 26, right-handed, was a decent starter for the A's in 2007, and had a 4.14 FIP splitting between the Cubs and A's last year.
I'm sitting here trying to figure out why the Rangers would keep Warner Madrigal in the bullpen instead of Gaudin, and whether it would be worth dropping someone (probably Luis Mendoza) from the 40 man roster in order to option Madrigal and sign Gaudin.
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Agreed
I’d really like to see Warner start the year at AAA. We need all the RH relief help we can get.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
I agree
with your agreement.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
Concur...
send Madrigal to AAA and DFA Mendoza.
Gaudin could be a good arm out of the ’pen and spot start if needed.
JD should be all over this, I hope.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Is Gaudin healthy?
Not sure he was the worst RHRP alternative in the Cubs pen. If he’s healthy, yep.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Apr 5, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
What's wrong with Madrigal?
seems like they both where about the same last year…
and maddog is better against RHPs…
Cubs need some help in the BP too, they musta saw something to release him just like that…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Madrigal...
was rushed and could use some seasoning at OKC imo.
Look at the year Gaudin had in ‘07 for Oakland. We would love Millwood or Padilla to do that this year. I’m not saying he will do that again, but he’s a solid pitcher who would no doubt be an upgrade for the Rangers bullpen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Well theres a difference between a 4.0 era in oakland and in texas
Of course, you could raise it half a run and everyone would still love them to do that.
the preceding post was a great success.
Because young relievers with significant upside are apparently very yucky.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I love you, Marcus Lemon.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.
I would say join the club..
but I’ve had to implement stricter acceptance guidelines.
the preceding post was a great success.
Very nice...
Josey has got to love the donut.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
ESPN's 'bottom line'
why the hell do they have to play that thing 24/7, it’s annoying, especially during games…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
I don't find it annoying at all
Personally, I’m glad they do it all the time. Sometimes they drop it during commercials..I wish they’d keep it during commercials. I usually just turn to that channel to look at it though..heh. Don’t really watch any of their programming.
You're not interested in
Mexican League soccer scores from earlier today?
by Brett Perryman on Apr 5, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I will be kind of ticked if we don't snap him up, with out shitty depth
Gaudin is what Scott Feldman wants to be when he grows up.
She was a grand old lady...
i would venture to say
Feldman is already a better pitcher than Gaudin.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
The stats I'm looking at disagree.
She was a grand old lady...
by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i got nothing
i guess i always just thought Gaudin was vastly overrated when he was with oakland. i don’t like that he has a 3:2 K:BB ratio. Like I said below, he’s not a K guy, and he’s not a GB guy. He was awful with the Cubs last year and awful again this ST. I just don’t like the feel of it. Perhaps Mendoza slides through waivers, and if that’s the case, I guess I could get excited about it.
I do agree whole heartedly that Madrigal needs more time in the minors to reach his potential.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
plug in Sheets and Gaudin
and we can have a little Cajun invasion in this staff.
Actually, he’s not really a strikeout guy, and he’s not really a groundout guy. As little faith as I have in Madrigal right now, I’m not sure if Gaudin is much of an upgrade.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Si.
Gaudin>Madrigal>Mendoza
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Chad Gaudin hates you, Warner Madrigal.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I love you, Marcus Lemon.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.
i'm loving the Braves' helmets and unis...
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
me too.
I just love that whole org. They are definitely my favorite non rangers team.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
i dont know why, but its hard to dislike the braves
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Agree
Hello Win Column - no two-tone helmets have been included in our redesign.
by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It was easier in the early '90s
to dislike them with their tomahawk chop in full force. I don’t even know if they do that now.
Gotta say their uniforms were pretty snazzy.
you assume we are all white?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
WTF, did he get caught bangin' the GM's daughter?
Snap him up, ASAP-unless he has an injury, then eff him.
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
nah, he probably just sucked in Chicago...
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
He was actually pretty good last year.
Posted a career-best K/BB.
She was a grand old lady...
by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
He was 'actually pretty good' in Chicago?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Well, actually now that I zip over from Fangraphs to BR
You’re right, he did implode after he got to Chicago.
She was a grand old lady...
by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Rotoworld: Chad Gaudin-R- Cubs Mar. 29 - 8:02 pm et
Chad Gaudin gave up three runs in two innings out of the pen on Sunday, taking his spring ERA up to 10.54.
We agreed with the decision at the time, but if the Cubs had it to do all over again, they surely would have non-tendered Gaudin rather than re-sign him for $2 million back in December. They might end up placing him on waivers and seeing if some other team will pick up his salary. He hasn’t been the same pitcher since last year’s back problems.
Things that make you go HMMMMM…
"...my balls are really like a veiny flesh color" blueballlefty on Jun 4, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
His velocity isn't there and scouts think he's hurt.
Apparently he’s been in the low to mid 80’s with his fastball all spring.
Tools Whore
The Cubs just have a ton of depth
I guess they figure Heilman, Szamardja and Luis Vizcaino made Gaudin expendable.
She was a grand old lady...
by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
X
He was actually in competition with Angel Guzman and David Patton (Rule 5). Samardzija was optioned. Guzman and Patton were kept over Gaudin.
Wow
McCann good.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
the other thing to consider here
is that we have Nippert and Eyre coming back from the DL shortly. Eyre looked vastly improved this spring, and Nippert is out of options. The more I think, the more I hope and expect us to pass on Gaudin.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Eyre over Gaudin?
Even if you need to rehab Gaudin with his back issues, Eyre shouldn’t be the reason you pass on him.
you seem surprised...
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
WTF
So now Rudy’s reputation has grown across different teams…
And why would Rudy be working with players on different teams?
so do we just lend out Jaramillo's services?
it seems like there should be some sort of fee attached to that.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
we did get Feliz, Harrison, Andrus, Jones, Salty
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
if thats the case
can we get Buehrle’s services because of the Danks trade?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
did he come get pitching help from Connor?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Wife Beater
getting hammered so far.
"I can wake up out of the bed and play outfield. It's easy." --MOB
good Lord
the Braves are slapping around Myers like….
let’s not go there.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Jordan
Always fun seeing a top prospect hit his first HR
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
is there another farm system
that has consistently produced immidiate impact ballplayers like the Braves have done over the last two decades. Just wait until Hanson shows up this year. They could finish 1,2 in the ROY standings.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
And no one will question why they didn't send Schafer down for a couple of weeks
to gain that extra year..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
to be fair
they had the money to pony up and completely revamp their entire pitching staff this year. We had the money to sign exactly 0 (zero) major league free agents this offseason. We have the working budget of the Saint Paul Saints. So it’s, um, a little different.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
But I'm a believer our payroll will jump when the timing is right
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Ben Sheets reaffirmed my feeling on this.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Sure...
and Linus has a seat next to him in a pumpkin patch telling everybody he knows about the arrival of The Great Pumpkin.
We have an owner that is shoving a Pittsburgh Pirates payroll down the throat of a number 5 media market willing and dumb enough to swallow.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Former HGH great.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
My fave was halfway through the game when Miller suddenly figured out his first name wasn't "Logan".
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I love you, Marcus Lemon.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.
brett myers
didn’t go through nolan ryan’s conditioning program
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
What a laugh it will be when Millwood, Padilla and McCarthy are all fighting for the Cy Young Award
by oc on Apr 5, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
now that’s laugh
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Nolan will be a hero and pleaded to buy the franchise.
What a story.
by oc on Apr 5, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok so basically...
Brett Myers will be dropped by 50 percent of fantasy teams tomorrow and Jordan Schafer (sp?) has now been instantaneously added to 50 percent. Pretty sure that’s what happens on the first day of the season when there’s one team playing.
no one will drop Myers yet
but yeah, Schafer will get picked up. Power/Speed/Potential is the sexiest threesome in fantasy baseball.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Eh i guarentee a good amount of drops...
I won’t…but just glad my gut instinct told me not to start him.
Schafer was drafted in my league.
But my league also scores differently from most leagues and is populated by “sabermetric” types.
I was debating...
…whether to grab Schafer in this keeper league I’m in. But there are no spots for a “CF” — just “OF” slots — and I already have Bruce, Hamilton and Markakis, so there’d be little point in it.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
How could they not find a trade Gaudin?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
he was owed 2m this year
people aren’t willing to pay that much for injured suck anymore.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
ahhh
2 million, I see.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
OT: I live in south texas and the only FSN feed I
get is from Houston, so no Rangers except maybe once or twice a month. Is MLB TV worth it? Any suggestions from those of you who’ve gotten it?
Support your local Scott Feldman
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton."
I doubt you'll get any Ranger games
I think you’ll be blacked out.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
you can try to give them fake addresses
find your favorite out of state LSB buddy and “shack up” with them for the baseball season
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
how does that work exactly? do they only have a certain number of games available?
Support your local Scott Feldman
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton."
you are blacked out from your area
so the easy case being that people in DFW can’t use mlb.com to watch Rangers games.
However, you are also considered to be in the Rangers area so you too are blacked out, except you can’t actually watch Rangers games the original way.
Awesome, huh?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
this is literally the wost thing ever. Ever. And whats even suckier
is that my apartment is contracted with time warner, which dropped the local channel that the rangers were on. I would love nothing more than to switch providers but thats not even possible. Thanks for the clarification though guys
Support your local Scott Feldman
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton."
Can you get Dish Network or Direct TV?
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Ive been checking in on Direct TV, but
I dont think it offers a FSN DFW feed, and then extra innings is pretty pricey
Support your local Scott Feldman
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton."
Extra Innings would be blacked out as well
If you get FSSW, I believe that all the games are shown on the alternate feeds by Direct TV and Dish Network.
I live in Houston, and have Direct TV, and as a result, I get just about every game, either on the main feed or the alternate feed. Even the syndicated games that aren’t normally shown on FSSW, Direct and Dish put on the alternate FSSW feed.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok cool
I used to get the alternate feed which was great…but then time warner dropped the feed…but I’m gonna check into Direct TV. Thanks Adam
Support your local Scott Feldman
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton."
If you decide to go with Direct TV...
…you can get a refer-a-friend discount. Email me, and I’ll hook you up.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually looks like I might do that
I’ll shoot you an email, which package is the one that has both feeds? Or do most of them have it..?
Support your local Scott Feldman
"Josh Hamilton doesn't act like he is Josh Hamilton. He acts like a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy named Josh Hamilton."
So, Direct TV is the only way you can get Rangers games?
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
Nevermind.
Didn’t see the rest.
I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.
worst thing ever
I feel your pain brother.
but, I’m not kidding about giving mlb.com a different address. I think the only thing they want is for you to call them from a landline from the locale you claim you are from. I’m sure you can work something out with someone.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
in houston
would they still block out Rangers game for him?
I know its the 2nd closest team to him, but thats still a decent geographical distance. How do they handle the east coast?
Yes, they'd be blacked out
And if you are in the home territory of multiple teams, they black out all those teams.
Parts of Iowa and Nevada black out games for 6 different teams.
Do a search for Passan on LSB, and you can see some articles Jeff Passan has written that I’ve linked that point out the stupidity of this.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's a link to the map if interested...
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
Well that didn't work...
forgot to put in text on the link…
Click here for a blackout map
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
this is one of the problems of MLB
that Adam has correctly spotlighted probably more than most media outlets. It is ridiculous that such a large swath of people can’t watch baseball online.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
This was the original reason I joined LSB back in the day
I was living in Arkansas at the time and was not able to watch Ranger games b/c AR is considered the ‘Home Area’ for the Rangers…. and the Cards, and the Royals.
Selig is an evil, evil man…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
I'm telling you guys...
the Phillies may be in trouble.
3/5 of their rotation is made up of Myers (who has always been inconsistent), Moyer (age eventually has to catch up to him), and the great Ho. Add to that the whole Hamels and his velocity being down thing and the Phillies could have some serious pitching issues.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
The Phills won't make the playoffs, imo.
They had a pretty dumb off season.
Way overpaid for Ibanez, then resigned Moyer because of… I don’t know, love, or something
And Hamels is a pretty good implosion bet, imo.I do NOT see him making it through this season healthy or effective.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I love you, Marcus Lemon.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.
And as I type that Mike Gonzalez begins to sandpaper his team's shaft super hard by losing his control.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I love you, Marcus Lemon.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.
Get on the phone, Adam
I know you have JD on speed dial. :)
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I want to be the next Annie Savoy.
joe morgan
just got pwned by a picture.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
"AMMIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABHH!!!"
Alright, the slight thrill of the first mlb game has worn off.
Done with this game I think.
Although morgan calling Francouer something like “fran-ture” was interesting.
the preceding post was a great success.
love the umpire
jawing with the fans
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Since Rudy worked with other teams players.....
Did Mark Connor work with Brett Myers this offseason?
by death of the cool on Apr 5, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions
LOL
Nicely done!
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
After toying with the idea all weekend...
…I’m going to pull the trigger on MLB At Bat 2009 for the iPhone. Gotta do it.
Is it just me, or has this been the longest, least-exciting offseason ever?
My 2009 New Years Resolution: Quit feeding the trolls.
I think thats factually correct actually.
just tried out mlb at bat for this game.. gameday and all that is working great but there are still no video highlights for some reason.
and is the volume on the audio really low for anyone else? the touch has low volume no matter what, but not this low..
regardless, very cool app.
the preceding post was a great success.
Yeah, my volume is low.
But the app is amazing. I’m a little surprised how good the quality of it is since they can’t seem to master MLB.TV. They’re not exactly the greatest with technology, though they try harder than almost any other sport.
Logan Schafer?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
hmm
so nobody is going to correct him after he keeps repeating “logan schaeffer?”
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
wow
again
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I can't believe someone int he truck...
didn’t correct him by the 2nd time he said it.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
all i know is i laughed pretty hard every time he said logan
and he said logan with such confidence
man i miss fjm
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Exactly what I thought when hearing it...
“FJM would have a field day with this”
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
i was trying to figure this out
is this a new thing where announcers don’t correct themselves?
Clearly people heard the gaffe and could have told him. Is it just that announcers don’t want to sound like idiots (which is somewhat counter intuitive since he sounds like an idiot when he’s getting it wrong)?
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
I think at this point...
Miller just doesn’t really care.
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
Ha...Miller just almost did it a 4th time...
Miller wants his name to be Logan dammit!
Stars in a Texas Night Sky, a Dallas Stars blog from a fan's perspective.
Sign him.
Why not?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
Braves
Adding Lowe and Vazquez is probably the most unheralded of all offseason additions.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions
lowe
has flat out dominated tonight.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Okay
The M’s are moving Aumont to the bullpen. Permanently.
So their 2006, 2007, and 2008 first round picks all were used on guys who are now relievers.
Is it durability concerns? Or stuff concerns?
"I know you're a bit dense but no, it doesn't. Obviously lying isn't a problem for me."
Their going crazy over at Lookoutlanding
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
This is their version...
…of the Eaton trade. The new g.m. that has folks excited, making a move that seems so mind-numbingly dumb and counter to what they thought he stood for…
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, and I'm still laughing from this quote Jeff made after they traded for Cedeno
Sweet baby Jesus. This team is going places.
"It doesn't look like he's trying. It kinda pisses me off," "He could throw 110 if he tried. The way it explodes out of his hand is really something special." ~ B-Mac on Feliz.
Imagine what would happen over here...
…if it was announced Michael Main was moving to the bullpen. Permanently. Because he’ll get to the majors faster that way.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Or, gulp, Feliz.
We’d go nuts.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
I love you, Marcus Lemon.
"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.
We already go nuts when it's even hypothesized that Feliz might move to the bullpen, even temporarily.
And for good reason. The Joba way is stupid.
Hello Win Column - no two-tone helmets have been included in our redesign.
by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
How about the James McDonald way?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Young, highly-touted starters should start, IMO
Only exceptions are if the bullpen is the only way you have to get them innings in Sept or if you need them to be a power arm in the playoffs, like David Price. But this “lets break a guy in through the bullpen” thing doesn’t seem to work, at least not for Morrow and Joba.
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by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
how did it not work
for Joba?
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He's bounced in and out of the rotation
I don’t want to see that happening to Feliz, or any of our other guys, no matter how good they are.
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by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't really bounce in and out.
There was plenty of discussion back and forth, but as far as actual player development.. stater in the minors, reliever for a little less than a year in the majors and then transitioned slowly to a starter. They didnt put him back and forth or anything.
I don’t see that as a particularly bad way to limit some innings and give mlb exposure with a greater chance of success.
I don’t really want them to do it with feliz, but I wouldn’t get too mad about it unless they actually did move him in and out.
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Or Billingsley, or Liriano, or Johan, or Pedro Martinez... And wtf is your deal with Joba? Are you dim? The guy's one the best young starters in the majors.
I’d take 100 innings of 10.5 k/9, 2.65 fip baseball from a 23 year old in only his second year of pro ball every single time.
Seriously, this idea that Joba is somehow a failure is dumb and the fact that you won’t drop it is confusing.
And before you go ahead and say that breaking a guy like Morrow in out of the ‘pen ruined him as a starter (and you have absolutely zero proof that that is the case, btw… you have no idea what sort of ancillary factors went into that decision this Spring), go ahead and admit that choosing to not break a guy like Phil Hughes or Clay Buchholz in via the ’pen is what “ruined” them, because there’s exactly as much proof of that as there is of what your saying.
The truth is that breaking a guy in via the ’pen is a case-by-case decision.
Saying flatly that it just shouldn’t be done is specious and lazy.
With certain players in certain situations, breaking in via the ’pen is probably the most prudent course of action.
Other times, breaking in a certain player via the rotation is probably the most prudent course of action.
Saying one way is always right or wrong is dumb.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Good points
It’s different for every pitcher. I’m still not a fan of doing it with our guys, but I have to concede you’re right.
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No it's not.
Plenty of good starters break into the big leagues out of the pen, your irrational dislike of Joba aside.
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If we where gonna trade them Salty, I would want a helluva lot more than just Joba
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Zduriencik said that when you look at Aumont’s size, most notably his 6-foot-7 height, it lends itself to being a top-of-the-line reliever.
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
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What’s more surprising is that they say he’s starting in AA. I don’t know what they saw in the MWL last year to believe he can handle a jump to AA. He missed time due to elbow soreness and he was considered an unpolished 1st round pick. Strange move.
Wow.
Their bullpen is going to be really good, I guess. I think that it is good for us that they are moving Morrow and Aumont to the bullpen. I am actually scared of how good Felix, Aumont and Morrow can be in the rotation.
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I'd like the Rangers to win the AL West because they're good
and not because of the utter flippin’ stupidity of every other team in the division.
But they will get Grant Green or Tyler Matzek.
They’re both probable impact players in the long-run.
that was a bad pick from the start...
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i just recall not liking him too much from that draft
his profile screamed bullpen guy, not a starter…and he was an extremely raw HS pitcher IIRC…
i didn’t think he was the 11th overall pick, but, we’ll see…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
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IIRC...
…he was a guy the Rangers were hoping would fall to them at 17.
I think they had him ranked ahead of Beavan and Main.
by Adam J. Morris on Apr 5, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i think my initial reaction of him being drafted was similar to yours when we drafted Beavan, “meh, he’s tall and he can throw hard…”
as it is, i think we picked the right 2 guys…
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This probably doesn't mean anything but drafting a Canadian high-schooler seemed a bit risky.
by oc on Apr 5, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Drafting any high school pitcher is risky...
Aumont was a top 15 talent in that draft, and I would have taken him over Beavan or Main. Brett Lawrie on the position player side is someone else I’d take pretty high despite his Canadian high school roots. You have to go with the best player available.
And Jack Z is of that opinion, too.
He went after Jake Odorizzi from a cold weather state rather early in the draft last year. The consensus is that he’ll take longer to get there, but his talent is better than almost any American high school pitcher from that draft.
Good
The more the M’s fuck up their farm system, the less competition we’ll have down the road.
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by LSJ on Apr 5, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
This is a move that deserves a firing. Just got a new GM this year too.
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"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
It never will.
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great commercial
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Now phillies fans get monday off to think about this wonderful game and their pitching problems
Ah, that could be up is 20 hours.
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And Atlanta loses all momentum.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Such a dismantling erased from history, how rude.
I’ll be sure to keep you updated on all future arguments since you’ve now decided to moderate.
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suddenly interesting
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The Philly's
have a knack for doing that, don’t they?
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Howard
shoulda kept the 25lbs on…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
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Derek Lowe... *Wistful Sigh*
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It would be great
to have him in the short term, but do you really want to commit $40 million to a 35 year old pitcher?
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
$60 million
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't "really want" to, but I would've been more than fine with us inking him at that price this Winter.
I heart Derek Lowe pretty hard.
I obviously would’ve been much more comfortable with 2 or 3 years and a vesting option based on health (ie, innings pitched), but I would’ve done it if we’d had the money to spend.
Lowe and Kerry Wood were the two guys who really got me hard this off season.
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by thedirkatron on Apr 5, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not uncommon to
have an intra-series off day the first week of the season because of cold/inclement weather.
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes sense for some cities
It doesn’t for Texas. Off days are valuable, hate to waste one after one game.
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This is Cleveland's
only trip to Arlington, that may have been an additional factor. Although it would seem to make more sense to have Thursday as the off day. Maybe it has something to do with making up games on travel days. I don’t know . . .
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by Randy Richardson on Apr 5, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone know
what Gaudin’s option status is?
That said, I’d definitely be interested in taking a flyer on Gaudin. He has the potential upside of at least a 4th starter, and he was pretty solid last year.
Just make sure he gets back completely healthy before throwing him out there.
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last night the conservative approach to pitch counts
nearly cost Atlanta. I never get it when a starting pitcher is completely rolling throwing 8 innings of 2 hit ball, and less than 100 pitches. Give the guy a shot at pitching a complete game shutout. How many times do you see when a pitcher is dominating, and a manager puts in a bullpen guy, and that guy immediately gets hit. I just think it is ridiculous.
Bring on April 6th!
on reason i can think of
is they didn’t want the starter going a complete game on opening day and “pushing their luck” so to speak.
was it the right thing for that game? probably not.
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