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Halo's Heaven on Nick Adenhart

Over at Halo's Heaven, the Rev has a moving post on the passing of Nick Adenhart.

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It's not possible

That a 22 year old’s life extends beyond the pleasure he provides his fans?

Frankly, I can think of a lot of aspects of this story that bum me out a lot more than the fact that I won’t get to watch him win a Cy Young.

by brettgardner on Apr 9, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I think he's trying to put perspective on why fans care that he died

Lots of 22 year old kids died yesterday. But this is a 22 year old man that baseball fans knew something about. I don’t think it was meant to minimize his death but to emphasize why this particular kid’s death hit home for people.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 9, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude

you’re really going to criticize?

this is one of those times where you should probably refrain from pointing out why you’re right and they’re wrong.

and it’s another one of those times where you make it painfully obvious you’re really young.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You really

Have a chubby for arguing with me.

I’ll pass on the bait this time. Have your moment of smug satisfaction.

by brettgardner on Apr 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i’d call most people out on booing a eulogy.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 9, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing

What would we do if we didn’t have you to “call ’em like you see ’em”?

Terrifies me, honestly.

by brettgardner on Apr 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think

it’s just Rev’s way of conveying that even though he doesn’t know players, they are a part of our lives and that he imagines all of the baseball players lost over the years as being excellent players who had great futures stolen from them. Some people have a hard time communicating these feelings in a very personal manner.

by jwiscarson on Apr 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Dude, wtf?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I love you, Marcus Lemon.

"I don’t have any respect for anybody on here. Everyone on here is a fucking asshole who thinks they’re god compared to everyone else." -iorange555.

by thedirkatron on Apr 9, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 9, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kinda agree with his view

Some of us follow players closer than we follow the activities of our own extended family. It sounds like a sad statement but for me it’s true. I don’t know what my brothers are doing every day but I know how each Ranger player performed each day.

I saw that Adenhart’s dad was at the game. I’m sure that’s bittersweet for him.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 9, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

Boras said in the news conference that he had summoned Nick’s dad to the game because he believed something special was going to happen. Ironic.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Wait...that's not Jason Jennings. Those are C.J. Wilson's thighs..."

by The Best Micah on Apr 9, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just watched Boras at the news conference

I know people said Boras was playing up his emotions but I don’t think so. He asked Adenhart’s father to be at the game so he must have had a connection with Nick’s parents which isn’t suprising when a young kid gets drafted. Not only did Boras likely have a connection with his client but I’m guessing the parents who asked Boras to speak on their behalf, which would be a tough damn thing.

My boss is an older attorney who’s lost a few clients over the last year. Each time it’s really bothered him. Just because someone is a business client doesn’t mean you don’t have personal connections.

That said, I still have my personal problems with Boras as a baseball fan.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 9, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

boras

it was weird. first time i saw it, I thought he was faking the tears (he just cried in a really weird way and then seemed to instantly recover) but I don’t think it was a show. not everybody reacts like the prototypical person

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 9, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

The first time I saw it, I only saw part of it and it just seemed weird and trying to hard. I wasn’t accusing him of not genuinely feeling bad, I thought it seemed like he felt he needed to look like he felt bad.

Second time I saw more, and I don’t think that so much.

by philkid3 on Apr 10, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody is that heartless

Boras has nothing to gain from this. I truly believe he was just reacting in the same way anyone would after the loss of someone who was close to you. He knew him since he was in high school. He watched him make his way up the Angels system. If someone for whom you cared so much, passed away, you would react the same way.

"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland

by chrisR on Apr 9, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah man.

Gutteral (sp?), raw, unsensored grief ain’t pretty. When you’re spiraling through it, it’s tough to even know how to physically express the intense internal emotions you’re feeling. It can be awkward and uncomfortable. Despite our feelings about Boras as a professional, at this point he’s just a dude tryin to work through pain, and he gets a free pass.

Derek Jeter sucks. How's that for a quote.

by rangerdanger on Apr 10, 2009 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

The combination of Adenhart and the fan (Brian Powers) being killed

really makes this a gut punch for Angels fans. One will be more widely mourned than the other because of fame, but both are equally tragic and equally devastating losses simply because both deaths were so preventable. A player and a fan were both killed by sheer stupidity, a truly sad day for baseball.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Apr 9, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this

Is a far, far more appropriate sentiment.

by brettgardner on Apr 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have to agree

the more I’ve thought about it, the more I’m not understanding the outpouring of condolences to the fans.

Sure, it hurts as a fan, but it hurts because a young man died, not because a close friend or relative passed.

Phil, excellent post.

by cmkelly29 on Apr 9, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing is

I don’t think Rev is anywhere near as eloquent or in touch with his emotions as philkid is, but he was trying in his own way to relate his emotions and feelings about the incident and why he feels it’s important.

It doesn’t make it any less legitimate, though.

Good post, philkid

R

by Requiem on Apr 9, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

And I don’t know how eloquent I was, but I do think I was on the same page as Rev. Some may just prefer the way one or the other expressed it.

by philkid3 on Apr 9, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I never thought of Rev as an eloquent person

(not sure how many people do), but that post was heart felt and genuine.

i remember when sean taylor died, the redskins blogger focused on how taylor died fighting, going after his assailants with a samurai sword, and I thought that was kind of an odd thing to focus on. But the way he wrote the post, you could tell the blogger was just so devastated and it really came out that he wanted to eulogize taylor as this hero and wanted everybody to appreciate him as that and so you don’t care about the specifics.

i’ve also been to a few funerals and people say the weirdest things (I can’t even talk at a funeral, I am terrible at expressing my sadness) because they have so much emotion and trying to convey that in stories, they end up focusing on strange minutiae. when you’re upset and you’re really hurt (and really stunned) that’s about the best you can do.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on Apr 9, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

I think that’s a more accurate analysis of why fans can feel this way over players. However, I don’t want to take anything from Rev. His feelings being a passionate fan of this particular kid could be different than ours. Also, his role is to try and tell a story about his feelings over this death, which he did.

If something similar happened to, say, Andrus, I’d feel terrible. That’s because when I was at the game and saw Andrus make that great play behind second, I actually had chills. If someone you’ve never met and will never meet can make you that happy, it shouldn’t be a suprise to feel deeply sad if something absolutely terrible were to happen to them. It probably doesn’t make sense from an objective standpoint but what emotion does?

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Apr 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

So sad.

My sympathies to his family and his teammates.

And, yes, of course, to his fans.

I don’t know what I’d do if Feliz or Andrus were to leave us like this. It is such a sad deal, not just for Angels fans, but for all of baseball.

by ajbrandt1 on Apr 9, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks to the Rangers fans

…who’ve migrated over to HH and left condolences, and also expressed themselves in this thread.

Angel fans really appreciate it.

Nick Adenhart - 1986 - 2009 R.I.P.

by swiss mcgee on Apr 9, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

sox fan in maine

I’m sorry guys. This stuff… I don’t understand why he died. That driver had been caught before. I’m only 18, and this could’ve been me. R.I.P. Nick. Sorry I never got to see you pitch against us.

by dguad on Apr 9, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

rip

Surely not the only tragedy that happened in the world today, but a tragedy nonetheless. 22 year old killed by another 22 year old, destroying both lives far too early.

Can’t possibly imagine what a father can do when his son is senselessly killed hours after being in attendance, undoubtedly proud, for the first major league win.

by Alan Smithee on Apr 9, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Except it wasn't a win for Adenhart

The Angels lost the game

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
"Wait...that's not Jason Jennings. Those are C.J. Wilson's thighs..."

by The Best Micah on Apr 9, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you have DirectTV

channel 692(FS West) is replaying the first 6 innings of the Angels game last night.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Apr 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I just saw more of Scott Boras's press conference.

Seemed a little more legit. It’s still uncomfortable and out of place coming from Boras, but I’m willing to believe it was real.

by philkid3 on Apr 9, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah.

As much as we see him as a pariah, it isn’t out of the realm of possibilities that he cares a hell of a lot about his clients.

That’s certainly one moment that swings the pendulum in the other direction.

by jwiscarson on Apr 9, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

My condolences...

to his family and friends and those of the other two that were killed as well.

Just a very sad situation.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Apr 10, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

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