Rangers "all but certain to sign" Guillermo Pimentel
by Kinslerhomer on May 1, 2009 3:41 PM CDT
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PrintWith two months remaining until the July 2 start of the signing period, several high-profile players are starting to get linked to certain teams. Outfield prospect Guillermo Pimentel, a left-handed slugger, is all but certain to sign with the Texas Rangers for a bonus that many Dominican sources believe will be in the $1.5 million to $2 million range. Pimentel has spent a significant amount of time at the Rangers' academy in the Dominican and also visited the team's spring training facility in Arizona in March. At least two international scouting directors say that Pimentel will no longer work out for teams, making it all the more likely Texas will sign him.
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The Rangers are also heavily tied to Curacao pitcher Jurickson Profar, a 16-year-old right-hander who once starred in the 2004 Little League World Series.
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Jurickson Profar.
Based on the name alone he’s sure to become the best pitcher in the history of baseball.
But what font will
he sign his name with?
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“Come on everybody, the game’s at Dirt Pile Stadium!”
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on May 1, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
damn. watching that video
really gives some perspective on where these guys are coming from.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
I was almost expecting a chicken
to run across the field. I have no problem with whatever signing bonus they get. All of us are real lucky to live where we live.
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LOL at the chicken comment
On a serious note, I agree. Playing baseball as a kid in a nice front yard with a good Louisville Slugger bat and Wilson glove is something we take for granted too often.
Agreed
I grew up in a very small town in Oklahoma and I thought we had it bad playing on fields with huge crabgrass. Then I got to high school and college wow what a difference.
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Now I feel bad for my genuine attempt at humor above.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on May 1, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
When Ben and I were living together...
…we were watching a Rangers game, and Juan Gonzalez was mad after an at bat and was complaining, and Tom Grieve said that Juan was upset because the batter’s box was too hard.
We ended getting into a big discussion about how Juan needed the ground to be softer like it was in Puerto Rico in order to hit, and his pants must not be too baggy, and he wanted chickens running around in the outfield like when he was growing up hitting the ball.
by Adam J. Morris on May 1, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I wrong
or does he hit the kid on the last pitch… the kids face looks like it…
Keepin it Classy Gentlemen
by Hamiltons Homey on May 1, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
they need to get him a red hat
and everything else will be fine
by blueballlefty on May 1, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
already loving the mechanics
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
259 view
how many from LSB i wonder lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
man you are on top of your game with your links
I’ve actually heard of this latin teenager, and i’m not zywica, so this must mean his is good
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
Latin bonuses
I’ve read that Neftali Feliz signed for only $100,000 and Johnny Cueto only got $10,000.
I’m sure there are plenty of others. Just curious, are these cases of guys that weren’t discovered, guys that only blossomed after getting older, or what? How do such highly talented guys slip through the cracks and sign for such small amounts?
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
Teams do a good job of shielding players.
If you find a really good prospect that’s off the beaten path in the LA market, job #1 is to make sure no one else finds out about them. That’s the reason why more talented guys sign for less. If they have inexperienced agents/buscones, and the scout does a good job of running interference, you can basically have no competition and set the bonus level yourself.
My guess it's a little of both.
Anytime you’re talking about 16 year-olds there’s a chance guys are going to blossom after signing (or of course, go completely to shit). There’s just so much growing left to do.
But of course given the amount of small towns and villages out there it’s also entirely possible some of those guys simply didn’t get the exposure necessary to incite a bidding war.
I don’t know enough about the specific stories of those two guys to figure it out.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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effortless
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These last two fanpost have saved the day
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Gotta sign at least one Pimentel.
Seriously though, this is great news.
I’m a huge advocate of spending big in LA/Asia/Draft, so this is huge.
Boom goes the JD-ynamite!!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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definitely, with our scouting work
we are doing over there, this might be the most effecient and productive market for us to spend in…. We can really accumulate and continue to build a strong talent base no matter what our draft position is. I know many have said that anybody can build a top system while drafting high like the Rays have in the past and you can always build a strong farm system when you are trading your ML talent away b/c you arent in contention. But if we continue to do a solid job in the draft and pour tons of money into the LA market, Our farm system wont depend on us sucking the life out of our ML team.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
Yep, plus it doesn't hurt as bad to lose a first round pick as FA compensation
LA is a continually replenishing feeder system.
Its also a good sign
that Hicks isn’t letting the bad economy stop the great work JD and co. have done in the LA market.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I couldn't agree more
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Anybody have some solid scouting reports on these guys?
I remember someone talking up Pimentel a while ago, but i have no idea what was said about him. If you’re spend 1 mil + on a guy over there, he’s gotta be pretty darn good.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
I want to say that he's the prototypical LH corner OF power prospect
But I may have dreamed that up just now.
Very Solid.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
Profar's mechanics
I know very little about pitching mechanics (I’m not sure I could spot scap loading, across-the-body motion, or any of the other no-no’s if I had to), so I may be all wet when I say this, but I like Profar’s. The guy saying “effortless” in the background said what I was thinking. He’s just very smooth and fun to watch.
Is it a mechanical no-no that he turns his back on the hitter during his windup?
on the turn your back to the hitter part...
i know thats not a no-no if you make it work… I know this also can be a type of deception in your delivery
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
re: "Is it a mechanical no-no that he turns his back on the hitter during his windup?"
It’s not something you’d teach a young to do, but plenty of big league pitchers have used this mechanism in their deliveries and been more than fine.
Kevin Brown and the Lincecum-Dumpster pop to mind.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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It also says
that the Rangers are interested in Juan Urbina, Ugueth’s son.
Go Rangers...don't suck...
And he's a lefty pitcher.
Who has grown 3 inches recently to 6’2’’. Wonder how he’s done with his dad in prison.
Hmm.
Should I make a joke about murder here? Probably not.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
I hope
He doesn’t get pissed and pour gas on some poor guy and light him on fire like his daddy did.
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Yeah, well
Everyone was all excited about signing Martin Perez, too.
And CBS doesn’t even have Perez ranked among AL/NL starting pitchers – which is VERY surprising to me since people here seemed so adamant that he is very good, citing a litany of numbers/stats/seemingly important ratios – all in a manner to protect JD from criticism.
I have seen no evidence to even suggest
That Martin properly respects the Great Game.
I go with Yahoo stats myself
CBS stats is so yesterday!
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If we find one that can play CF...
Then we can have an all Guillermo Pimentel outfield! I’m so excited…
The two Guillermo Pimentels absolutely must play on the same teams for as long as possible.
i was confused about this
because I wasn’t sure if it was the same pimentel or different.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Yah...
I found the pic of Guillermo Pimentel on Lucas’ site, thought maybe they gave this new one a uniform to sell him on the club? Or something?
Two different Guillermo Pimentels…sheesh.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on May 1, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Do the Rangers set aside a specific
amount of money they anticipate needing for LA, Draft, etc? They have to know whether this is a good year for LA or not so I would guess Hicks already put aside the money they needed before this “financial” crisis he’s found himself in.
How does the budget work for this?
From what we've seen
it isn’t really a set budget per se. I would guess that there is a soft budget, but they’re willing to go over for appropriate players. They set aside the money for Ynoa and Smoak, for example.
So with someone like Pimentel, aside from the fact that they had money earmarked for Ynoa and were unable to spend it, they knew early on that they wanted this guy. He is probably his own aspect of the budget, and they probably set the rest of the budget based on the idea that they sign him.
by Brett Perryman on May 1, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Curacao..
I spent three months there a couple of years ago, and I can almost guarantee that Profar’s favorite team is the Rangers. And if not the Rangers, definitely the Braves. They are batshit insane for Andruw Jones in Curacao. I don’t know what the overall talent pool is like there, but I’ll bet the scouts are playing the Andruw card pretty hard if they’re looking at other kids there.
It’s pretty funny, there was all that love for Jones, and I only found out Ponson was from Curacao when he joined the Rangers a year later.
You're right.
My bad. I get the ABC islands (Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao) mixed up sometimes.
But… Ponson’s a douchebag. That’s my point and I stand by it. :)
by AmnGuest2006 on May 1, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would anyone want to go to Curacao? Seems pretty shitty to me.
Crystal clear water and near-blinding white sand beaches?
Yuck.
I bet they have beautiful island girls, too.
Sounds like hell to me.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
They're all topless all the time too
Its like, come on! Cover those lovely things up!
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I am confounded
I know it is sarcasm, but me brain just can’t quite the Angry voice in my head demanding a severe reprisal against you guys….
Imagine him
saying it in a Glen Beck voice. That works the anger into a productive fine point.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
You're more right than you realize...
Most of the women who are topless at the beach, really shouldn’t be. And the one or two hot ones would freak out and move down the beach if they even sensed someone was looking in their direction.
I understand most of them come across their share of pervs, but it was kind of ridiculous. It gets to the point where everyone involved would be more comfortable if they weren’t topless.
I realize I’m like two words from losing my man card, but it’s the truth.
And yeah, dirkatron, the trip was pretty rough. I managed to tough it out, though. I’m a warrior like that.
This is one of the saddest stories I've ever heard
I am sorry for the hardships you had to go through.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I weep for the man
He truly is a warrior for surviving such an awful experience.
This early movement
has to be motivated by how we were swindled for Inoa last year right?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
There's always movement this early.
It’s just that there’s now a consistent English blog that writes about it this year.
Looking back on it, were we really swindled?
I read an article stating the Mr. Bean made two personal trips down to see Ynoa and had long visits with him and his parents that really made it sound like he got sold on the A’s before the bidding even began (much like what we’re doing with this Pimentel kid) but that the A’s didn’t do anything there that mosts teams don’t do with guys they covet. Basically the just made the stronger sales pitch and so when it came time to talk money and we made the top offer he had already made up his mind.
If some team came in and offered him 500k more than we’re offering for Pimentel but he said, “No, thanks. I’ve already agreed with the Rangers. I’m comfortable with them and I won’t turn my back on them at this point.”, would we then be swindlers?
Seems like the A’s nailed him down with old fashioned recruiting and then we got mad when we came in with all these juicy gobs of cash and he’d already made his decision.
I’d really like to get a definitive answer on exactly what happened when with regards to the Ynoa thing, but I doubt we’ll ever have anything more than ambiguous quotes from here and there that don’t really tell the whole story.
Or maybe one of our insiders actually knows.
I’d love to hear a definitive story on this.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on May 2, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
What are the rules
for the whole recruitment process, even? I mean, the fact that we can stonewall other teams with this kid and the whole Bowden debacle just makes this seem like the most ill-organized mess in the world. Anyone want to give us a long-winded explanation?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Wasn't there a quote from Ynoa
that basically said had he known the Rangers offer earlier, he would have taken their’s over the A’s? Plus, I’m sure the Rangers had met with him a good few times too and weren’t just offering 6+ million dollars to him without having the higher ups talk with him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I have been known to critique
the moves of the front office every now and then, but this is very encouraging news. after the ynoa debacle last year, i am very glad to see us come out and aggressively nail down a few key players this year. as nice as it would have been to sign another bullpen arm or two this winter, if not signing those guys allows us to go and get a few extra studs in this year’s LA class, then long term, it is probably the better way to spend that money.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
way too obvious
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
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