reached on error

by gossamer on May 13, 2009 11:22 AM CDT Comment 14 comments

just wondering if there is a site that keeps up to date track on this stat?

all i have found was retrosheet, but that site doesn't post stats for current season.

i'm just being nerdy and want to see stuff. just wanna mess around and look at top hitters and see who would lead the league if you took total bases + walks + stolen bases + hbp + roe and then divided by PA

see last year that would make the number

.669 arod

bradley .654

quentin .653

youkilis .628

sizemore .627

kinsler .600

hamilton .592

carlos pena .588

cabrera.579

pedroia .566

morneau .560

mauer .523

not that this means anything. i'm just being a total nerd. wonder if i should subtract 2 pts for every GDP from the total bases number? or add 1 for every SH and SF? probably i should stop wasting my time, and yours. my apologies.

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Do some players seem to ROE an awful lot?

by Inkara1 on May 13, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i would figure the players that reach a lot

are players that are lucky or hustle or both.

ichiro reaches a lot

erstad did back in the day

craig biggio

barry bonds not so much

neither did juan gone

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by gossamer on May 13, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would seem to make sense.

Guys that force the issue- Hurried throws. Of course, guys that don’t strike out or walk much, e.g. Ichiro.

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by scoop16 on May 13, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus, if you have time to recover from dropping the ball and are able to throw to first for the out in time, it's not an error.

But guys at the top of the list here, A-rod and Bradley… both can run OK but aren’t really known as “speed guys” like Crawford or Figgins. It would be nice if that list broke down each component that went into the ranking, so we could see how much those guys actually ROE.

by Inkara1 on May 13, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe i'll put that up later

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by gossamer on May 13, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

here are some

Ichiro – 15
Jeter – 11
Roberts – 8
Mike young – 8
kevin youkilis – 7
joe mauer
Miguel Cabrera – 5
Milton Bradley – 6
Ellsbury – 6
Ian kinsler – 5
Evan longoria – 4
Upton – 3
Dejesus – 2
Polanco – 2

I gotta believe that most of it is luck. Jeter and ichiro seem to reach on erros a lot,
Ichiro I understand because he has great speed. Jeter I guess "hustles".
Other than that, a complete season from a good player seems to get 4-7 ROE’s. some of the speedier guys had higher ROE’s, at the same time some of them were just average.

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by gossamer on May 13, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i would think alot of it

would have to do with somene’s ability to hit the ball hard. You don’t see too many errors on popups and that sort of thing. Maybe compare that list with their LD%?

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by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

eh

it’s a pain. retrosheet.org doesn’t let you sort or anything. getting to every player is like a 5 step process. i did find a “shortcut” by looking at each team individually and seeing who does what. johnny damon is another guy that reaches on error a lot.

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by gossamer on May 13, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

biggio was always on

b/c he got HBP, it seemed.

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by mtex on May 13, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you need to multiply by the grit factor

erstad/biggio are top 5 in the history of the game when it comes to grit factor

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by knockoutking on May 13, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eckstein?

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by bioaggie on May 13, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

would freel fit in there?

or am i being racist?

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by gossamer on May 13, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gossamer, have faith in the comment section.

This is barely a fanshot.

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by hightowersmith on May 13, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

okay

a little more legwork was done.

shortstops and secondbasemen ROE’d most often
catchers and firstbasemen ROE’d least often

i figure catchers and 1b are usually the slowest players (didn’t pay attention to DH)
and SS and 2b are probably some of the quicker (except maybe CF) generically speaking

10 of the top guys in ROE% are used in the chart

typically (but not in all the cases)
they struck out less often than league average (except for overbay and iwamura)
they homered less often than league average (except for ramirez)
they hit more grounders or league average (except for rios)
they hit more line drives or league average (except for ramirez and pedroia)

i figure if you meet 3 of those 4 critiera you will reach higher than average…except for ramirez who seems to have been lucky, or that may have been a result of tons of ground balls.

none of this is really surprising though, i guess. that’s not really what my original point was. but anyways. time was killed.

again, sorry.

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by gossamer on May 13, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs