Thursday night linkaliciousness
Games like this make me want to obsess even more about baseball. Particularly the Rangers.
Jayson Stark's latest Rumblings and Grumblings is chock full of stuff of interest to the Rangers fan, including some substantive quotes from a couple of scouts:
Meanwhile, across the state, scouts who have followed the Rangers have a completely different vision of where Texas' other team might be headed.
"I think they've got a chance to steal that division," one scout said. "What I'd love to see them do is reach down, call up that kid Neftali Feliz and say, 'We're going to give it a run in September.' I know they don't want to push him. But this kid has electric stuff. It's about the easiest 100 [mph] you'll ever see. It's like he's having a catch, except it's 100 miles an hour."
A second scout sang the same song, saying, "I'd like to see them do what Colorado did a couple of years ago with [Ubaldo] Jimenez and [Franklin] Morales -- put Feliz and [Derek] Holland in the rotation and go for it. I think they could pull it off.
"People haven't noticed, but their pitchers have pitched a lot better. Nolan [Ryan] has brought a different philosophy, and Mike Maddux is as good a pitching coach as it gets. They're pitching more aggressively with their fastballs, and they're pitching inside a lot better. Look at [Vicente] Padilla and [Kevin] Millwood. They were given up for dead a year ago. Right now, they're pitching their butts off. I'm starting to think that team could be one of the nice little stories of the year."
One reason the Rangers can't think about calling up Feliz any time soon: He's been out for the last week and a half with a sore shoulder.
I think the first scout must be 80, because I don't think anyone under the age of 80 says "having a catch."
The "across the state" reference is because this segment came after a discussion of what the Astros are going to do, and whether they'd trade off some vets, including Roy Oswalt, to rebuild. The Rangers, I'm sure, would be highly interested if Oswalt were to end up on the market, but before you start suggesting a deal based around, say, Smoak or Davis + Teagarden or Max, remember that the Astros are set at first base with Lance Berkman, and just used a 1st rounder on catcher Jason Castro. I suspect they'd want MIFs and high-ceiling arms for Oswalt.
There's also talk about Jake Peavy...and while he's said he would only waive his no-trade clause to go to the Cubs or the Dodgers, I wonder if a few months of the Padres sucking, plus the Rangers being contenders in, say, July, would convince him to come to Texas. Because, as with Oswalt, I'm betting the Rangers would be motivated to bring him here, and they have the pieces to get a deal done.
I was listening to Ben and Skin on 105.3 on the drive back to Houston (it was awesome to actually hear a couple of hours of Rangers talk after a big win, even if it was interspersed with the occasional "we'd be better if we still had Young, Danks, Volquez and Galarraga" calls), and they and the callers talked at great length about the improved pitching and the impact Mike Maddux and Nolan Ryan have had with the Rangers, and the improved pitching is leading to more wins.
But Dave Cameron at FanGraphs, Jay Jaffe at BP, and Rob Neyer at ESPN all have articles up today that make the same point I made earlier this week...the pitching isn't really any better so far this season than it was last year. The improved Ranger run prevention is a result of better defense, not better pitching.
Will Carroll has a chat session up at BP, with a Derek Holland question and a smackdown on someone comparing Chris Davis to Russ Branyan and suggesting Justin Smoak should be brought up to replace him.
You know that inside-the-park-home-run Howie Kendrick hit, when Jose Guillen completely whiffed on an easy fly and Kendrick made it all the way around to home? Well, nevermind...it has been changed to a four-base error, after the Royals appealed the scoring decision. Tells you quite a bit about what the Royals' think of Guillen, I think...
Everyone who was worried about Neftali Feliz? You can breathe a little easier...
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Fucking fag.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on May 14, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know why I laughed
considering it was one of your posts.
But, I did…
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by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
God, that makes me tear up every time
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on May 14, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That was my first thought
If it’s good enough for Kevin Costner, it’s good enough for me. Shove it up your ass, AJM.
by brettgardner on May 14, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Run prevention, pitching
call it whatever, it’s working and I like it.
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God I love this team
Pitching and defense baby!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
man...
that just means that when we finally call up Feliz and put Holland into the rotation, plus maybe throw Sheets into the top slot, we might TRULY have a team to be reckoned with
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 14, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think a trade for Peavy would have to accompany that
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Oswalt's been saying
that he’s going to retire at 34 no matter what. And I’m figuring if the Rangers aren’t giving Feliz or Holland (very likely), it might be a case of something like Harrison (a more legit ML starter) or a guy like Beavan, then a ready OF in Boggs, some kind of IF near the bigs (Vallejo? Arias? Maybe even Lemon…), one along the lines of Kiker/Poveda/NeRam and then a player way down the list (not sure there).
So basically, something along the lines of a Harrison/one of Vallejo or Arias/one of Kiker, Poveda, NeRam/an interesting arm lower in the system. Remember, there’s still the case of a big contract to be picked up.
I don’t see the trade for Oswalt happening, because the Rangers won’t be willing to give too much to take on a large contract, even for a very good pitcher and the Astros will obviously be wanting a big haul for a marquee guy.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
I don't think you are getting...
…Oswalt without parting with either Holland or Feliz.
by Adam J. Morris on May 14, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
In the eyes of Ed Wade and Uncle Drayton, yeah.
But I’m looking at Oswalt and getting a little worried. His peripherals appear to be going down a little each year. His mechanics and stuff still appear really good. But I mention the contract, which the Astros would probably have to eat a part of if they want Feliz or Holland in the deal. I’m not sure whether Roy will follow through on his retire at 34 thing either.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
They aren't going to send Oswalt to Texas and eat part of the contract
by Adam J. Morris on May 14, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Which means I don't think
JD would have Feliz or Holland in the deal when he’s taking the entire contract.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
I'd be shocked if he included either Feliz or Holland in any deal
Especially if a guy like Oswalt’s the target.
If he can get Oswalt without giving up Feliz or Holland
and not compromise their system after that, the Rangers appear real legit for 2009-2011. Guy’s pretty much dominant in the second half and he’s the real deal in the playoffs (Game 6 of the 2005 NLCS was clutch, clutch, clutch).
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Would you want any part of him at that cost?
Say they offer you Oswalt and ask for Der-Hol and some filler to make it look good… like, say, Arias and Jumbo Diaz.
No way do I part with the Oven for Oswalt at this point.
Even if it’s basically just a 1 for 1.
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by thedirkatron on May 14, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I keep Dike Plugger
and Happy, period. I’m willing to talk about anyone else in the system. Except Perez.
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yea, im not trading Perez
like ever, he’s in the Holland/Feliz territory for me. I think his upside is higher, if thats even possible to say.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
Dike Plugger
Am I the only one who took that in a completely different direction before realizing it was another Dutch reference?
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
The Over
Fucking greatness.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
over = oven
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
Brett, I feel bad for you over there at the DMN
“sheep who lie to make the blunder boy’s trade history look good” is one dumb SOB
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Hopefully the team will have a good season
and there will be less of that strange, angry stuff.
by Brett Perryman on May 14, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
its really strange
I wonder who actually posts stuff like that… Are they all like granpa Urine?
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
I bet it's just one guy
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 14, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
what do you know Jonny?
little late, huh.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
Well, during this streak the *starting* pitching has been better than last year.
The starters have been great over the last 14 days or so, and they also were pitching to hitters who don’t know how to walk or hit HRs. They had a similar stretch last year in May, but the SP was much worse against those slap hitting teams than this year. Last year’s SP FIP in May was 4.55. This year they’re at 4.15.
So 0.40 run per 9 improvement from the starters.
I’m not saying defense has been unimportant. I’m saying there is a strong synergy where the total is greater than the sum of the parts. The SP ERA last year and this is 4.74 and 3.14, respectively. A full 1.6 runs less. That would suggest the defense alone was worth 1.2 runs of that improvement. I don’t think it’s that large. There some multiplier effect going on between the two.
A similar thing happened with the Rays last year. The estimates of reduction in runs from defense (like from Dewan’s +/-) plus reduction of FIP do not quite add up to the actual reduction in runs. Some sort of non-linear, interaction term was at play.
So, I wish the sportswriters would recognize there are three factors at work over the past 20 games: (1) good defense, (2) good pitching, and (3) weak offenses. It remains to be seen whether the pitchers will continue to pitch with confidence and let the defense do its thing when the big boys come to town.
Back to being a fan…. KEEP IT UP! This is probably the funnest Rangers team I have ever seen. Other years have had fun moments: no-hitters, perfect games, lots of home runs, but never producing consistent highlights in all three aspects of the game: fielding, pitching, and hitting, like this team.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Yeah "the pitching is worse than last year" argument doesn't make much sense
For one thing you are comparing completely different data sets, 5 weeks over against 5 months. If you look just at this season measured vs itself, the vast improvement in pitching actually has a start date: April 18th. That was the first game after the KC blowout loss (12-3) after the Balt blowout win (19-6). Something clicked within the team after reflecting on the surreal interstice between the game 9 blowout win and the game 10 blowout loss – call it embarrassment, stark realization – that resulted sustained improvement that can’t be discounted with aggregated stats that cannot take into account "turning points’ such as this.
So for what it is worth, I’ll take both the improved defense and the improved pitching and the division lead thank you.
Yeah. I was just looking at the schedule to see the turning point to see if I could sort stats even somewhat
close to when that occurred. Not possible, though. May stats are about the best that can be done.
FWIW, the big difference in the starters this year compared to last is the fewer number of walks they’ve issued. Last year in May, starters walked 3.82 per nine; this May the rate is just 2.33 per nine, and it will go down a little after today’s 0 BB performance by Harry.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
The pitching is worse than last year
pre-April 18, you hit the nail on the head. The pitching staff’s numbers are better than last year, even without taking defense into account, since then. It’s been a great month.
Since April 18 the rotation is 11-5, with a 3.83 ERA, averaging 6.46 innings per start. That’s a nice stretch of 24 games.
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Well, here is another argument,
The health and consistency that provides + the defense could be construed as the sole two improvements… Take Kris Benson out of the equation for our starters and I imagine there is quite a difference in SP stats, bt. that and the turn around Matt Harrison has had, we are pitching on another level than what the overall stats weighted down by some ugly outings by Benson and pre-Whatever the hell got into him Harry will say. Thats not to say the level we are pitching at over this awesome run will continue, but we can hope that it wont drop off nearly as bad as it did last year without a whole rash of injuries to our SPing.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
As was discussed before,
The drop in runs for the Rays COULD have been accounted for using Run reduction in defense and run reduction in FIP.
I don’t currently have the time to look it up, but it is NOT a certainty that there is a non-linear, interaction term in play.
OTOH, there MAY be that factor (or it could be randomness, also).
There’s no guarantee it’s any of the three, though.
R
by Requiem on May 15, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Randomness may be more important that I'm considering it to be.
If it is, the Rangers have found the same kind of randomness.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Chaos Theory!

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by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
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by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait...
now I’m confused…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
hahaha
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by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I generally go to anywhere from 6-10
Back in 2003, there was a season ticket holder who posted on the NMLR, saying that he wanted to parcel out about half of his games to folks who were willing to pay what he paid for them. I got tickets to 10 games that year, and every year since then, I’ve done something before the season with him where I’ve gotten tickets to 6-8 games per year, using his seats. And occasionally if I’m in DFW anyway I’ll go to a game anyway.
by Adam J. Morris on May 14, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. I didn't realize how well Peavy has been pitching this year.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
The reason
San Diego. As Tiny Tim Kurkjian pointed out today, Adrian Gonzales has gone pretty much unnoticed as well.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
Gonzo is awesome, its sad/awesome how many good 1B we've run through this decade
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
I still think Gonzalez is the best of them.
But we’re remedying that.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
could we expect him to flat-out dominate pitching here?
or would his numbers suffer enough to notice? He might be a worthy trade target, depending on how desperate the Pads get and how much more we keep winning
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 14, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think they would suffer that much
but i dont think his numbers would be anything close to a true Ace, Im not sure he’s been at those numbers recently anyways the last few years.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
I'd take a 1.22 WHIP with 61 Ks in 52 IP
for a “bad start to the year” – the ERA is a bit high at 4.30…but the last two years, at 2.54 and 2.85, with over a K per inning, aren’t Ace quality?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 15, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Roy Oswalt?
Pass. The Astros will be asking the Rangers to trade for the Cy Young contending Roy Oswalt when that isn’t anything close to what we’d be getting. His FIP has been on a steady decline over the past few years as has his tRA+. Add in his poor start to the season and he’s going to have be doing a hell of a lot better to come close to warranting anything valuable from the Rangers.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
yea, id go for Cliff Lee or Peavy b4 Oswalt
plus, ‘stros just arent gonna deal him for anything less than Feliz or Holland. For Lee, Id be willing to deal alot to get b/c he’s in his prime and pitching well, LH, and has another year on his contract.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
please forget about Cliff Lee
I’m VERy afraid he comes here and sucks. big time.
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by Walter Sobchak on May 14, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's what scares me the most:
- 2007: as a whole and individually, 9.45 ERA in RBiA (1 start)
- 2008: 1 start at RBiA amounting to a 10.80 ERA
- 2009: 1 start at RBiA amounting to a 12.60 ERA
You can scream “small sample size” all you want, but I’ve seen him torn apart the last 3 years when visiting our ballpark. And 2007’s entire year was not too small of a sample size…just afraid of regression.
Plus, on top of all of that, he’s not young…he’s 30.
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by Walter Sobchak on May 15, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
he's not young
but he’s pitching arm isnt as worn out as some other guys his age. He’s still throwing really well this year and he’s got a cheap option for next year. Look at it this way, he wouldnt have to face our offense by whom he got obviously murdered.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
So lefties are better in the ballpark, but because of a few starts against our offense he's the suck here?
Makes negative sense to me and I couldn’t disagree more with your logic or your conculsion, but whatever.
Roy Halladay has a 6.3 lifetime ERA in the ballpark.
Would you take him?
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
you know I'm being picky here.
and I would realistically welcome Lee and Halladay…but ideally, if we’re giving up a significant amount of prospects/ML players, I’d pass on Lee and Oswalt and I would take Peavy – MAYBE Halladay, but it all comes down to the cost. I’d obviously plug Lee into our rotation without a second thought right now.
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by Walter Sobchak on May 15, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Halladay >>> Peavy
I watch Halladay pitch almost every start courtesy of the MLB package… he’s incredible. All he does is throw strikes and dudes cant hit him. Been that way for years. The whole ERA at Ballpark stat is retarded, we crush the ball and if you come here you don’t pitch against us.
If you want a pitcher in his prime that can go up against any ace in the game, you go for Halladay. I don’t think there’s anyone better for a game 7 right now.
That being said, he’s not available.
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
I don't really want Peavy OR Oswalt.
Or Roy Halladay for that matter. A big name is nice, but I’d rather have someone younger and more controllable like Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco or even Matt Cain (although Cain doesn’t really fit the “controllable” category).
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
Johnson
He was complaining of a “weak” shoulder after his start yesterday.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
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Agree.
I hate the thought of giving up top prospects for uncontrollable players.
Beckett payed off, but if it didn’t… Hanley. Just a scary proposition.
Not to mention, If the top 5 are pitching well w/ Holland and Feliz on the precipice, How much of an actual gain are you getting?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
We don't need to be trading for any of those guys on that little list of yours, young or old.
Peavy would cost too much in terms of both $$$ and prospects, plus his arm scares me.
Halladay is going nowhere. (He just isn’t.)
Oswalt isn’t as good as his rep, meaning he’ll be overpriced. Pass.
Trading for young controllable arms in season… yikes. Talk about paying through the nose. No thanks. Part of the reason you see teams add vets in deals like this are because the discount you get for their non-long term controllability makes them much more palatable.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I know it's a dumb hypothetical
but if TOR regressed and Halladay WERE available, would there be a package you’d be willing to part with to get him?
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A lot of money and a first round pick
I love Halladay as much as anyone, and think he’s the best in the league right now, but I’m also in the camp of not trading Feliz/Holland/Perez. Without one of them, no way Toronto moves him
"Holland didn’t make that kid question his swing, he made him question his career path"
Not a realistic one.
He’s so good.
You’re talking about Smoak, Feliz and Perez at the least, imo.
He’s so, so good.
Plus, he ain’t going anywhere.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
The thought of Doc Holladay in a Ranger uni
makes my pants wet.
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Agree 100%
Dont know why some here think it is seemingly mandatory that we make a trade this season
we dont need to sell the farm like some want us to around here
Also, that gif of Andrus' highlight plays is awesome.
I would love to see a similar gif of all of the walkoffs.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Is it worth asking
if the psychological effect of playing defense good on our pitchers is the real kicker here? Or is that like saying ‘Consistency’ or ‘Grit’ or ‘David Eckstein is a good baseball player’?
I think the psychological aspect of improved defense is real.
You might be seeing the effect of that in the reduced number of walks the starters have given up this year compared to last.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
Cliff Lee is the guy I want.
Assuming we’re still in it in a month or so, and Injuns continue to falter, he seems like a guy who meets all the criteria we’d want.
Would a Boscan/Kiker/Tommy Hunter/Vallejo package do it for Cleveland? Would you do that deal assuming we’re in roughly the same position as we are now in a month?
Would we have to inculde one of our Smoak/Feliz/Perez big three to get it done? Cause I don’t know if I could bear to lose any of those three.
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Come to think of it that Boscan/Kiker/Hunter/Vallejo package probably wouldn't do it.
Those guys are all nice (especially Boscan), but they’d need a headliner.
They’d definitely wan ta Smoak-type guy in that deal.
Don’t know how I’d feel about that, even if it was basically a 1 for 1 like the CC/Laporta deal.
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by thedirkatron on May 14, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He's been almost as good as last year.
I had kind of written him off, but looking at his numbers a bit more makes me quite a bit more excited about him. I’d definitely take Lee over Cain, if they go after a starter at the ASB.
They could use a power bat in the OF, and power arms on the farm. Maybe Cruz+Kiker+???
Otherwise, hold onto to those trade chips and go for Danks or Johnson this offseason with a mind-altering prospect package.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
I keep bringing him up cause I think Lee is the most likely guy to hit the market.
If we wait until the off season I’d just as soon see us upgrade via FA with a guy like Lackey or Bedard or Harden. (Or Sheets, assuming we don’t sign him in July to a 2 year incentive laden deal like we’re all hoping happens.)
I’d rather not see us blow or wad on overwhelming a team for a young starter in the off season.
The cost would be astronimical.
With Byrd/Blalock/Padilla/Cat all coming off the books after this year we’d be better served signing a guy if we wanted to make a splash, imo.
Plus just the idea of trading a bunch of prospects to get Danks back makes me want to go on a Jack Daniels fueled bender to rival the one I went on after the Fabrication of Dwyade in the summer of ’06.
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by thedirkatron on May 14, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
D-Wade and the bastard right hand man of D. Stern,
one Bennett Salvatore. I remember those bleak summer nights.
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Lee does make the most sense
And would be cheapest. Peavy/Oswalt/Halladay/Whomever won’t happen without a stiff pricetag. Not that Lee will be cheap, but I realistically don’t believe that Lee will re-up with Cleveland before FA (stranger things have happened – see also: Greinke).
I can’t say that I’m super excited about Lee, but he would look rather nice in our rotation and I don’t think we would have a lot of regreat about getting him….barring a popped tendon in his middle finger during spring training or something crazy.
You're gonna giving up Smoak for a guy with one really good year under his belt?
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Eff, fail on several counts
I don’t feel good about giving up that type of package for a guy without a track record of being really really good.
Yah, the '08 Cliff Lee... I'm not trading for that guy.
That was a pretty freakish year and it’s not reall reasonable to expect him to ever do that again.
But while he may not be ‘08 good, he’s still pretty damn good. Good overall stuff, decent K’s, very few BB’s, decent GB/FB rates… I see him as a 3.5-3.75 era/1.2 WHIP kind of guy.
Basically a good pitcher who might possibly be on the market if Cleveland decides to do a slight rebuild rather than extend him and wants to maximize their return by dealing him now as opposed to over the Winter or next summer.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd prolly at least consider it for Smoak or Perez as long as it was essentially a one-for-one.
But it’d have to be the exact right situation in terms of us being in contention and I’d have to feel pretty good about our chances to extend him on a reasonable deal.
I like Lee and I think he’s a good #2 guy if we think we’ve got a legit shot at the playoffs this year and going forward as a front of the rotation (albeit not true “ace”) vet to pair with all the kids we have coming up over the next 2-4 years.
But, yah.
I really, really, really don’t want to sell the young guys unless it’s the perfect situation.
But if it looks like we’re in position to make the playoffs this year and you know Lee can help both this year and next (along with a chance to extend him), doesn’t it make sense to think about trading a guy like M-Per, who, as awesomely beastly as he is, is still in all likelihood 3 or 4 years away?
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, im right there with you
the guy is still really good, doesnt seem to be going down hill like some of the names out there, has a relatively cheap contract running through 2010.
On the package, Im not sure that would do it, but i wouldnt want to give up Feliz or Perez either, I dont think they’d be that interested in getting Smoak just b/c they have a ton of 1b/dh options. It would probably take another top 10 or 15 prospect to get that deal done b/c Lee does have another year on his contract, right?
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9mm club option for '10, w/ a 1mm buyout.
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by thedirkatron on May 14, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
thats a great deal
Id love to get him, but it would be hard to pry him without one of our top three pitching ’spects
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And he's talked openly about how much he'd like to get locked up with an extension.
Though that might pertain only to Cleveland where he probably feels some loyalty.
But that at the very least shows he’s not one of those, “Gotta test the market for the good of the union and/or to make absolutely sure I get top dollar” kind of guys.
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by thedirkatron on May 14, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
not to hijack the thread...
but could Sheets be late season addition that ‘s cheap and doesn’t cost us a prospect?
He can sign the day after the draft,
and MIL gets nada.
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what would the contract
look like? Obviously it would be incentive laden, but in terms of time? Maybe the rest of this year with a team option for next year?
Will Carroll...
….had a very cryptic Tweet about two weeks ago, something like, “hearing rumblings on Sheets.” Asked him what he meant, he never answered.
by FuturePants on May 15, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Couple other interesting stats.
In May, the Rangers pitchers have the lowest BABIP, by far, at .228, and the hitters have the highest BABIP at .355.
Part of the pitchers’ success has been due to the teams they have faced, which have among the lowest LD rate in the majors. However, I’m willing to believe the increased range of the defense will enable the pitchers sustain a lower than league-average BABIP.
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ughh
that screams lucky
:’(
hopefully your theory is correct (which i think it will be below average but obviously not THAT much below average)
by dustinvandeman on May 15, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam, the defense is better
but the pitchers aren’t walking batters like they did last year either.
The pitching and the defense are both better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
And their K rate...
…has dropped even more than the walk rate has.
by Adam J. Morris on May 14, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not so worried about the K rate falling
because of the new and improved defense.
Walks kill and always have.
Oh, and how about Hank Joe Fucking Blalock?!?!
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
And uh, I took the Houston Rox +9.5
and hopefully Jerry, Wilt, Elgin, Gail Goodrich, Jim McMillan and Happy Hairston don’t hold it against me.
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Huge homer tonight
Still an ugly OBP, though. And I still wouldn’t give him $30 million over 3 years.
by Adam J. Morris on May 14, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
His obp will end up
being around .340 when it’s all over and that doesn’t suck when your slugging % is north of .550.
You realize that Hank is younger than Nelson Cruz, doncha?
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Cruz is cheaper and fills a position we actually need
I’d like to keep Hank around, but we can allocate the resources needed to resign Blalock elsewhere.
Have you ever actually explained how you’d reform the roster to fit Blalock next year?
Why is "cheaper" a priority
when we have a small market payroll?
The payroll is and has been low enough…let’s make winning a priority.
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You answered your own question
Why is “cheaper” a priority when we have a small market payroll?
Cheaper is a priority because we have a small market payroll. We have limited resources / a cheap owner. Deal with it.
If you want to live in a fantasy world and say we should resign Blalock, payroll limitations be damned, that’s fine. Just don’t pretend like it is a legitimate opinion that people should take seriously.
Also, you still haven’t explained how you’d rearrange the 2010 roster to fit Blalock at DH.
Why would anyone
want to keep Blalock around when you have cheaper alternatives on hand that are likely to be just as productive and less of a health risk?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
tball-
Hank seems healthy now.
Have you seen his last 650 plate appearances in The Show?
Think Smoak or Max can do that?
If so, you’re a bigger mindless cheerleader than gdawg.
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You know who has hit better than Blalock the last 650 plate appearances?
Fernando Tatis.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
The last 650 PAs for Hank
takes him back to 2006.
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lolol
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by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have
Figure out which 1B you wanna keep between Crush & Smoak.
Figure out which C gets traded bw Max & Salty.
Keep Blalock as your DH.
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Brilliant
So simple. Just trade away two young top prospects with six years of service time so we can devote what little payroll flexibility we have to an injury-prone DH approaching his decline years.
Has MLB come up with a new rule
where you can play two 1B and three C’s at the same time?
I know the Texas Ranger fan-base is still struggling with sophistication but JD is going to need to make a trade to break up multiple positional log-jams and actually help the team at the major league level.
It’s what good gm’s do.
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by Josey Wales on May 14, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Any early guess on Blalock's FA status
this fall? Its hard to guess with random guys getting to type A from time to time but I don’t see JD trading Hank at the break if this team is in contention and I don’t see Hank being resigned.
by groundingout on May 14, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Id love to just keep Hank and get those picks
Im not sure if we could get what we’d be able to get with those picks even if we only ended up with a Comp pick… If he’s gonna be a type A (which i think with the way Elias does it, he can definitely reach) there is no reason to deal him b/c the value of those draft picks is gonna be almost as valueable as anything you can get from Hank at the deadline.
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Type B at best I suspect.
Only getting 281 PA last year is going to hurt.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
similar to Milton Bradley last year?
Milton was worth a type B, right?
by ncrangerfan on May 15, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep,
Bradley was Type B. I think Bradley is a real good comp to whats going to happen to Blalock when it comes to ranking FAs.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
He was a Type B this past offseason
Despite the missed time, but that was as a part of the 2B/3B/SS group. Is he going to count as a 1B/DH from now on?
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I'd guess
he’s in the 1B/OF/DH group, because he already has more PA as 1B than 3B in the ’080’09 seasons. However, Elias can be pretty squirrely with their ratings.
I definitely think best case would be Type B, like Bradley, but there is a reasonable chance there is no compensation for him.
However, to really know, you’d have to go over all the other folks in the FA class, because a lot depends on who else is in the FA pool this year.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Does it really matter?
Will the Rangers even offer him arbitration? I doubt they will.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
They'd be stupid to.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
I dunno... if he's type B I might think about it.
Type A, no way. I think that’d scare off teams to the point where his return would be too great a possibility.
But I’d think about about it if he was a type B.
What’s the worst case scenario if he accepts? We try to trade him but if we can’t we end up with him blocking Smoak for a little bit.
There’s worse things than that.
See: Philadelphia with Thome/Howard.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Except
since most likely he gets paid more in arb than he gets in FA (the exact reason you wouldn’t offer him arb), he probably isn’t tradeable, much like this year.
So, at the end of the day, you are stuck with a platoon DH clogging your roster, rather than bringing up a youngster, and you still probably need another bat to deal with lefties.
Seems like a lot of work for very little payoff.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Fair enough.
Especially since comp picks aren’t that huge a deal to me given how you can easily make up for that in LA/Asia if you wanted to.
Although I have to wonder if we won’t see arb cases coming back down to Earth now that the baseball economy for non-stars is shrinking somewhat.
It’d seem like it’d be hard to argue thank Hankles deserves a lot of money when he’s worse than Bobby Abreu and look what he got.
Plus I’d expect Hankles to look for a multi-year deal if he hit the market, given his age. He probably thinks he’s worth it.
Still, it’s a good point.
Lots of work… minimal return.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
And that ~$7M or so
could be used to sign someone like…. Ben Sheets.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
It seems to me
that arb cases seem to lag the market.
Although, honestly, there have been so few arb cases go all the way to judgement, its tough to say for sure what would happen.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
But you're creating a bigger log-jam by trying to keep Blalock
Letting Blalock go as a free agent, taking the draft pick compensation, and using that money to improve other parts of the team just makes too much sense. Why sign Blalock when you can replace him internally? By trying to keep him, you’re forcing management to unload one more young hitter in favor of an injury-prone vet. Trading Davis or Smoak just to resign Blalock is not something that good gm’s do. It’s only what bad internet trolls do.
Your love of Blalock is almost as irrational as your hatred of JD.
MLB.com gets a Geolocation Patent
Basically they’ll be able to stop you from watching Rangers games on MLB.TV if you normally live in say California but are traveling and are in DFW when you pull up the site.
Lame.
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by Joey Matschulat on May 14, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
hey, Im now Elvis Andrus' son then
or husband either way
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by The Best Micah on May 14, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Does it have to be a baseball player?
Cause Dirk is back on the market
It's not a big deal to me since I live in DFW
but that sucks for friends outside of the area.
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by Dirk Diggler on May 14, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
?
I have a friend who lives in Boston and he gave me his mlb.tv login. I can pull up Rangers games when I’m here in DFW. Maybe they only do it when they aren’t busy telling the MLB Network guys to switch away from a live look-in right when the game gets good?
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by Dirk Diggler on May 14, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
are you sure about that?
mlb.com account doesn’t usualyl work when i’m in TX. are you on a proxy (like at a college)
Nope
Work at home. I’ve only tried a couple of times because I can usually just watch it on the TV but it has worked…
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by Dirk Diggler on May 14, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
*works at home
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 14, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Do they not keep tabs on that kind of stuff?
As in, your buddy in Boston uses mlb.tv one night and the next night there is a login in Dallas. I would think they wouldn’t allow and monitor for that kind of thing. Also I’m moving this weekend and am thinking about getting mlbtv. Can anyone who has it or used it give me their thoughts on it? I made a fanshot about it both those usually suck.
by groundingout on May 15, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I have mlb.tv premium
You have to install nexdef to get the HD picture quality. The picture quality is great, but it had a lot of issues for me with the picture sticking, sometimes for a minute or so at a time, and also, the nexdef program runs in the background on your machine from the moment you turn the machine on to when you turn it off.
Even when nexdef does work right, you’re consistently about a minute behind live action. Game day threads are completely useless if you’re using nexdef because of how bad the delay is (3-4 pitches behind).
But with mlb.tv premium, even if you don’t install nexdef (or install it, then close it in task manager and then find the toggle switch in the mlb.tv window to turn it off) you still get to choose the home or away feed and that’s a really nice benefit.
Well what if someone traveled for a living
and was in Boston one day and somewhere else the next? How can they control that?
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by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you do that this year or last year?
One change I’ve noticed for this year is that now it checks my IP to see where I’m at before it will even let me give it my login info.
I don't really know
I’ve only used it once or twice and I haven’t had any problems. I never used it before this year.
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by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
This is lame...
I work in anti-piracy for a small software company in Redmond, Washington. We’ve been doing IP location and Geo-restrictions for activation and validation for years. Guess this means we’ll have to pay royalties to MLB. Oh well…as long as the Rangers get a cut…
a certain company in redmond told me my xp copy was bogus
when in fact its 100% legit and only on 1 pc… bastards
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Good to see
MLB.com putting all its intellectual bandwidth to work to screw paying customers. That seems a real good use of resources.
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Neftali was pretty good...
I went to the OKC game tonight, and didn’t even know he was pitching until they announced the starting lineups. Pretty awesome surprise. I can’t remember if it was his changeup or his curveball that everyone is worried about (it was dollar beer night, there are a lot of things I don’t remember right now), but he made a couple of Portland players look really stupid on changeups.
On an unrelated note, the Portland team’s mascot is the Beavers. That’s always good for a Beavis and Butt-Headesque chuckle.
he had a great line tonight, and I imagine that if he can just throw all his pitches for strikes he's
gonna make alot of hitters look stupid just b/c his FB is so damn good.
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i dont know
you got Harry cheap for 5 years after this year… thats a tough call if you ask me
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
why would we ever trade for anyone right now
we have to wait till we actualy make the playoffs once
something that scares the shit out of Brandon Morrow from now on
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by willamos2 on May 14, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Back-to-Back Complete Games By a Starter
I remember not so long ago when Josh and Tom would talk about how long it had been since a starter had pitched a complete game, and how long it had been since a starter had gotten 10 strikeouts. Now Harrison has done the complete game thing two starts in a row. So I’m wondering when the last time it happened.
TR Sullivan has a piece up at the Ranger's site
talking about that very thing but only with LHP
Tracked That Down
Says “Darren Oliver on May 3-9, 1998. Oliver won just one of those two. The last Rangers left-hander to win two straight complete games was Kenny Rogers, who actually won three straight on May 18, 24 and 29, 1995.”
Wow.
Sad
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by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
man we had back-to-back 1 hitters from Padilla
and back-to-back complete games from Harrison…amazing.
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by Walter Sobchak on May 14, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
the most amazing thing about Harrison
is that he has the most wins (13) through his first 22 appearances than any other pitcher since this guy. I know wins are a weak stat to reference, but that is still pretty amazing.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
wins probably get stronger
the longer a career is, cuz run support would probably regress to a mean over a long period of time,
but yeah, 22 game sample is too small
by kevinkinsler on May 15, 2009 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Roy O
I love the guy. He’s been one of my favorite pitchers for a while. I don’t like the Astros much, but I’ll always tune in to watch him pitch. He’s signed to a pretty reasonable contract. I’d love to see him in Ranger blue/red. But right now, knowing what the Lastros will expect in return, talk of a trade for him makes me slightly nervous. This season his K’s are down and his WHIP is up. I haven’t seen him pitch so far this season. How’s his velo? Any buzz in H-town about his performance and ability this season?
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Meh on Oswalt.
SSS concerns, I know… but this year he’s gone from slowly trending down over the last couple of years to just plain not good so far this year.
The k rate is down, the walk rate is up.
The gb rate is down, the LD rate is up.
(Although his FBV is actually up, which surprised me.)
Overall… No, thanks.
I’d take him if he would come cheap, but he won’t, so I don’t want him.
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by thedirkatron on May 14, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
FBV
Fastball velocity?
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by hightowersmith on May 15, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Small sample size, I'd think
and his typical average start like last year. I’m worried he’s dropping too, but so far I don’t think he’s lost any velocity or break on his curveball. Someone pull up PitchFX, I’m not sure.
I don’t think the Rangers are going to make a deal with the Astros for him. The Stros will want too much and JD won’t give it to them, because he knows that the top of the farm’s going to be a centerpiece for the Rangers contending window.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
our mid year pitching acquisition
will be Ben Sheets.
If we trade for anyone from the Astros, it will be Valverde.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Eww
on Valverde
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Double ewww.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
really?
what do you not like about this guy? His WHIP, K/9 and K/BB numbers are ridic. Even this year, while he has battled injuries so far, he has still posted a solid WHIP and K rate. If he gets healthy, he is a guy I definitely look into.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
I would give up garbage to get him.
Otherwise, even though I don’t think he’s “ew,” he’s not valuable enough to give up anything more than money or a guy who would never make our roster.
He's a douche and he's injury-prone and he's expensive ($$$ and presumptive trade cost) and he'd only be a rental and I don't know how he'd take to setting up.
Plus I just don’t trust him.
On paper, yah, that’s a good relief arm and I’d love to have those stats here… but I’m not too interested in bringing him in here given the realities of his situation.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
he is SIGNIFICANTLY
better and more reliable than anyone currently in our bullpen with the exception of FX2
by dustinvandeman on May 15, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
if he is healthy
we can pair him with Frankie and turn games into 7 inning affairs. I think he will probably have more value than a simple salary dump. He will also almost certainly be worth some draft picks at year’s end. I would probably trade a couple of guys who could present tough 40 decisions to get him.
The guy I stay away from is Oswalt. His K rate is dropping, he has a ton of mileage on his arm, and he has a tough salary figure to swallow. In this economic climate, he should be the salary dump.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
his K rate dropped intentionally
when someone got into his head about pitch counts. maybe nolan would talk some sense to him.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
FIP is a theory
not sure why so many take it as gospel.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
Who takes it as gospel?
I think the theory that people take it as gospel is at least as ignorant as actually taking it as gospel.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions
adam and those three guys
all state bluntly that the pitching is worse this year. well of course they’d say that. they’re all basing that off of DIPS.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
And all three of those guys
are quite familiar with every other pitching stat. Go look at the Rangers’ tRA, FIP, xFIP, etc. All of those numbers agree that the pitching is not really better than last year.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I don't fully buy into it
But it’s interesting to consider, along with the rest of the evidence.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
hey i like looking at the stat
but i’ve never bought into the foundational theory.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
What do you think of tRA?
No stat is perfect, of course.
You look at every bit of information available, mix in what your eye sees, and do your best to form an opinion based on everything you can get your hands on.
FIP, tRA, ERA, K/9, k/bb, LD%, K%, etc…
Likie most stats they’re all useful tools so long as you’re careful not to think there’s one there that tells you everything you need to know.
In this specific case of trying to seperate what improvement has been the defense and what has been the pitchers I think FIP is like that annoying nerd who helped you set up your wireless router… A useful tool.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
to put it nicely
I think tRA is a bit too ambitious.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
Again, I think that says more about what you seem to think it's ambitions are.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL, nice.
I like how everyone’s smiling except Face, who’s all consuming intensity allows him to show joy only through expressions of intense rage.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Millwood looks like an old guy who's amused by watching but doesn't really want to engage himself in the activity.
ANd that bat boy is decidedly unimpressed.
Heh.
And Millwood’s thinking, “Damn, How many muscles do I have to use to smile?” (In John Wayne voice of course.)
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Oh Man
I’m worried that BMac is about to break in half simply from the weight of the other players leaning on his shoulder. Careful, fellas!
someone should insert medusa over one of the fan’s face
by dustinvandeman on May 15, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Reading Cameron's piece prompted me to go look at Andrus's Facebook page.
Holy crap, I didn’t realize how much he was destroying my expectations for him. Obviously watching the games I’ve been anecdotally impressed, but hte stats are downright incredible. Especially looking at the increase in slugging. And the fact that his BABIP is WAY down for his AA season (which leads me to believe his numbers are probably going to improve even beyond his growing talent).
I thought if Andrus stayed afloat and didn’t hurt the team too much, I’d be cool with that from a 20 year old who skipped AAA. What he’s doing so far is, instead, probably my favorite thing about the ’09 Rangers.
Wait, so does anyone think
that there actually is a chance that the Rangers could throw Feliz and Holland (if he’s not starting already by then) into the rotation in September if they’re in the midst of a pennant race? It seems a huge, huge, huge risk but something about the league having never seen two flame-throwing rookies means it could work. Personally, I don’t think I’d do it, but you never know…
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I don't think the Rangers would be wise to do that this September
I don’t see how you can push any of the other guys out at this time. If Harrison/Feldman continue to pitch consistently, I’d think their spots are theirs to keep.
B-Mac is a wild card, but I think management is going to give him every opportunity to keep his spot this whole year, unless he just flat out shits himself on the mound every start.
Padilla will be gone after this year, so a spot opens up for Holland in 2010. Then you can bring up Feliz to bring heat out of the pen OR to take a struggling SP’s spot during the year.
It’s a nice problem to have around Arlington for a change.
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If September comes around and the Rangers are in contention and Feliz would be one of the five best options and they feel like his development is far enough along. . .
. . . absolutely. There are some ifs, though.
I definitely think I’d want him in the bullpen by then, though, if we’re in contention. I don’t think that would stunt his growth at all, and I definitely would bet he’ll be one of our best pen options at that point.
My thinking has been
that Feliz is gonna have trouble in AAA with wildness and developing his off-speed pitches so we probably won’t see him until late in the season. Then he gets a sore shoulder and I feel even stronger about all of that.
Suddenly, his shoulder just turned out to be achey and he goes out and pitches well. Hersom writes about him, Jeff Wilson writes about him, Meno quotes scouts raving about him, Holland seems to have quickly settled into his big league uniform and NOW I’m thinking this guy could be up before you know it sitting beside Derek in the pen learning the ropes.
I don’t know what to think, but I’m starting to think sooner rather than later for Feliz.
His various roadblocks probably won't let this happen
but after Holland came up and people were asking about Feliz, I was going around saying that he could be the guy to take Holland’s spot in the pen, once Holland is moved to the rotation.
by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a 95% chance Holland is in the rotation by then...
I’d say anything can happen and Feliz could definitely make it here by September…but maybe in a bullpen role
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by Walter Sobchak on May 15, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The timeline is messed up
but in theory you could see something like Holland in June and Feliz in late July or early August. Or Feliz could just stay in the pen and dominate, which would have a huge impact over a short period of time, as we’ve seen with K-Rod and others.
by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yah, I still have nightmares about the '06 Rangers and all those late leads we lost while the Yanks were playing 7 inning games with Mo setting up Wetteland.
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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Pass...
on guys like Oswalt and Peavy. I’d also pass on Lee and Halladay too, if they’re even available. I wouldn’t give up the young prospects that it would take to get any of those guys right now. Roll with what you’ve got. If Sheets is able to come back later in the year then go with him. If another starter starts to struggle then plug Holland into the rotation. Don’t give up 3 or 4 prospects for a rent a player.
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